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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: Lefty on February 03, 2010, 11:07:18 PM
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I know there are specific threads addressing this very topic. Want I would like to see in a discussion thread is our program's future.
Stuff like player potential in one year and 2 years. Stuff like will the big 12 schedule more big mondays for the ksu wildcats? Will the coaches/media rank us top 3 next year? What do potential recruits offer the squad? Does dalonte keep the pipeline going?
Basically, I want to further my excitement level in regards to ksu basketball.
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I really see next year as the first pinnacle of Frank's tenure. Jake, CK and Dom are seniors. Samuels and Asprilla will be Juniors. McGruder, Martavious, Judge will be contributing major minutes as sophomores. It is almost unreasonable to think that we won't be a better team. After next season, it's more likely that we plateau or even drop of just a touch because of the three seniors we'll be losing. But talent wise we'll still be so far ahead of where K-State hoops has been for the last two decades we may just have to start getting used to it.
By two or three years down the road we'll be talking more about team chemistry and less about weather we can match-up night after night in the Big XII. Of course this conjecture, although fun, really hinges on keeping Frank happy in MHK. Getting a couple of players drafted could help reinforce the talent pipelines and I think that will happen in the next couple of years.
Anyway... :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot:
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Though I find myself looking ahead time to time, I am trying to just keep myself grounded and enjoy this season. It is the best K-State bball season I have witnessed and I want to be able to savor it while it's here.
Next year talk will be upon us soon enough, let's just sit back and enjoy the ride we're on now.
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Though I find myself looking ahead time to time, I am trying to just keep myself grounded and enjoy this season. It is the best K-State bball season I have witnessed and I want to be able to savor it while it's here.
Next year talk will be upon us soon enough, let's just sit back and enjoy the ride we're on now.
Dont get me wrong, its exciting to think about it, but lets savor this season. Its great! :bball:
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K-State vs. ku game is becoming a ratings beast. That is a high profile game for the foreseeable future, which makes me happy. (Incidentally, on this subject, most ku fans are extremely tarded. "Only reason Gameday is there is because of us." Um, no. If that were true, why wasn't Gameday at our contests earlier this decade? BOTH teams need to be elite -- seems simple to me.) Anyway, that game is a monster, which raises the profile of both schools.
Other good news? Next year's team is a juggernaut so long as Pullen is back and healthy. Team is also currently positioned to weather the senior losses the following season with some good young talent in place. To wit:
'11-'12
1- Irving, Russell
2- McGruder, Spradling
3- Samuels, Southwell, Ojeleye, Williams
4- Judge
5- Asprilla, Henriquez-Roberts
Biggest concerns at this stage would seem to be depth at PF and figuring out whether Irving and/or Russell can run the point. Good thing about this team is you've got lots of length and athleticism, so you can mix and match (a lot like the current team, in that respect).
I'm guessing Frank finds another point guard within the next 7-8 months, and probably another true big as well.
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If we don't start recruiting better we will have no future. JMO.
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If we don't start recruiting better we will have no future. JMO.
this. sprads and southwell don't cut it, imo.
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If we don't start recruiting better we will have no future. JMO.
this. sprads and southwell don't cut it, imo.
I kind of agree. But it isn't like our major contributors outside of Kelly were significantly more highly touted than those guys.
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If we don't start recruiting better we will have no future. JMO.
this. sprads and southwell don't cut it, imo.
I kind of agree. But it isn't like our major contributors outside of Kelly were significantly more highly touted than those guys.
Depends on how you define "future" IMHO.
If you mean "contend for the Big 12, Top 10 rankings", probably not.
If you mean ".500 or better in league, bubble/NIT in worst seasons", then the future is fine.
I don't think Spradling/Southwell type classes are going to send us back to 6-10 in the league. JMHO.
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If we don't start recruiting better we will have no future. JMO.
I'm curious to see if this run in the top 10 -20 will help our recruiting. So far, Frank has been trying to sell the "work hard and you will succeed/father figure" crap. Hopefully this "ESPN exposure" and "competing for the Big 12" can win some kids over.
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the thread consensus so far sounds about right. drop off after the '10-'11, but not off the face of a cliff.
the '11 and '12 classes will be pretty important. wish kstate had more than just williams lined up. oth, with jeffrey gone, following recruiting is like feeling around in a pitch black room. there's really no way to know what is going on.
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The future?
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the thread consensus so far sounds about right. drop off after the '10-'11, but not off the face of a cliff.
the '11 and '12 classes will be pretty important. wish kstate had more than just williams lined up. oth, with jeffrey gone, following recruiting is like feeling around in a pitch black room. there's really no way to know what is going on.
yep. (I was dying for sys's take in this thread, btw)
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Agree with pretty much everything that has been said.
Got to take into consideration one thing though..... If we can finish out this season strong, with a good run in the NCAA(16 or better), KSU will be ABSOLUTELY MARQUEE next season. I'm talking pre-season top 10(maybe top 5) with multiple Big Monday and Saturday night games, sportscenter and everynight. By that point it would be 5 straight seasons of 4th place or better finishes in the B12. 3 NCAA's and a couple sweet 16's. Two or more guys in the NBA from the current KSU era and massive exposure.
I agree that we will probably see a slight drop due to youth that season but I wouldn't be shocked to see some huge names(MCDAA's types) knocking down the door to play for KSU.
Could be a great ride fellas.
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nobody thinks Southwell will develop? look how jamsam developed.. he was a true post when he got here, now he's a pretty damn good SF. thoughts?
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nobody thinks Southwell will develop? look how jamsam developed.. he was a true post when he got here, now he's a pretty damn good SF. thoughts?
no matter Southwell will be the best looking player on the court. at the very least his charisma will be used as a recruiting tool
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nobody thinks Southwell will develop? look how jamsam developed.. he was a true post when he got here, now he's a pretty damn good SF. thoughts?
southwell needs to develop in the other direction. he's a hs pg with no chance of playing pg in the big 12. needs to learn how to shoot a little.
just a gut feeling, but i don't think he'll do much here.
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nobody thinks Southwell will develop? look how jamsam developed.. he was a true post when he got here, now he's a pretty damn good SF. thoughts?
southwell needs to develop in the other direction. he's a hs pg with no chance of playing pg in the big 12. needs to learn how to shoot a little.
just a gut feeling, but i don't think he'll do much here.
Awesome, he sounds like the next Akeem Wright that we've all been waiting for.
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low blow, _fan.
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If we don't start recruiting better we will have no future. JMO.
this. sprads and southwell don't cut it, imo.
I kind of agree. But it isn't like our major contributors outside of Kelly were significantly more highly touted than those guys.
Depends on how you define "future" IMHO.
If you mean "contend for the Big 12, Top 10 rankings", probably not.
If you mean ".500 or better in league, bubble/NIT in worst seasons", then the future is fine.
I don't think Spradling/Southwell type classes are going to send us back to 6-10 in the league. JMHO.
Let's look at the lineup in '11-12
1 - Russell (jr)
2 - Irving (jr), sprads (so)
3 - McGruder (jr), southwell (so), williams (fr)
4 - JamSam (sr), Wally (JR)*
5 - Spri (sr), JHR (jr)
a step up from the composition of last year's NIT sqaud, but could be around middle of the pack big 12. not sure what to think of that lineup. next year will definitely tell us where we are headed. guys like Russell and Irving developing pretty much make or break us (which isn't a bold statement or anything). and McGruder prolly needs to develop into something special. The '11 class will need a PG and some SF's.
*updated to include Wally, though I think he'll leave (maybe he doesn't but Jam Sam does?)
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If we don't start recruiting better we will have no future. JMO.
this. sprads and southwell don't cut it, imo.
I kind of agree. But it isn't like our major contributors outside of Kelly were significantly more highly touted than those guys.
Depends on how you define "future" IMHO.
If you mean "contend for the Big 12, Top 10 rankings", probably not.
If you mean ".500 or better in league, bubble/NIT in worst seasons", then the future is fine.
I don't think Spradling/Southwell type classes are going to send us back to 6-10 in the league. JMHO.
Let's look at the lineup in '11-12
1 - Russell (jr)
2 - Irving (jr), sprads (so)
3 - McGruder (jr), southwell (so), williams (fr)
4 - JamSam (sr)
5 - Spri (sr), JHR (jr)
a step up from the composition of last year's NIT sqaud, but could be around middle of the pack big 12. not sure what to think of that lineup. next year will definitely tell us where we are headed. guys like Russell and Irving developing pretty much make or break us (which isn't a bold statement or anything). and McGruder prolly needs to develop into something special. The '11 class will need a PG and some SF's.
You have Judge transfering or going NBA?
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If we don't start recruiting better we will have no future. JMO.
this. sprads and southwell don't cut it, imo.
I kind of agree. But it isn't like our major contributors outside of Kelly were significantly more highly touted than those guys.
Depends on how you define "future" IMHO.
If you mean "contend for the Big 12, Top 10 rankings", probably not.
If you mean ".500 or better in league, bubble/NIT in worst seasons", then the future is fine.
I don't think Spradling/Southwell type classes are going to send us back to 6-10 in the league. JMHO.
Let's look at the lineup in '11-12
1 - Russell (jr)
2 - Irving (jr), sprads (so)
3 - McGruder (jr), southwell (so), williams (fr)
4 - JamSam (sr)
5 - Spri (sr), JHR (jr)
a step up from the composition of last year's NIT sqaud, but could be around middle of the pack big 12. not sure what to think of that lineup. next year will definitely tell us where we are headed. guys like Russell and Irving developing pretty much make or break us (which isn't a bold statement or anything). and McGruder prolly needs to develop into something special. The '11 class will need a PG and some SF's.
You have Judge transfering or going NBA?
NBA, though I should prolly include him for discussion. will update.
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I knew we couldn't have anything nice....crap
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FWIW, Judge will only go NBA (early) if hes putting up 20 and 10. JamSam will have to put on 50lbs before he goes NBA.
I'd say the chances of Judge transfering are >> NBA
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Looking back what we thought our post-beasley roster would be, would we think a core of Pullen, Clemente, McGruder, and Samuels would be a top 15 team? (Considering Judge has basically been non-existent).
Probably not. A lot can be happen, especially w/ transfers.
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FWIW, Judge will only go NBA (early) if hes putting up 20 and 10.
I'd say the chances of Judge transfering are >> NBA
Both of these statements are ridiculous imo
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FWIW, Judge will only go NBA (early) if hes putting up 20 and 10.
I'd say the chances of Judge transfering are >> NBA
Both of these statements are ridiculous imo
I don't see how transferring would help Judge AT ALL. Dude still gives 110% effort and isn't constantly in Frank's doghouse.
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FWIW, Judge will only go NBA (early) if hes putting up 20 and 10.
I'd say the chances of Judge transfering are >> NBA
Both of these statements are ridiculous imo
yeah. really ridiculous.
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Looking back what we thought our post-beasley roster would be, would we think a core of Pullen, Clemente, McGruder, and Samuels would be a top 15 team? (Considering Judge has basically been non-existent).
Probably not. A lot can be happen, especially w/ transfers.
good point. still i'd hate to see kstate fan's get all missourish and assume that martin's system and eye for talent will turn any non-random assortment of martin recruited 3 stars into an top 15 team.
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Looking back what we thought our post-beasley roster would be, would we think a core of Pullen, Clemente, McGruder, and Samuels would be a top 15 team? (Considering Judge has basically been non-existent).
Probably not. A lot can be happen, especially w/ transfers.
yeah, that's why is said irving and russell's development is huge along with gruds and judge becoming elite-ish type players. we could very well end up with shipman's and kadji's.
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Looking back what we thought our post-beasley roster would be, would we think a core of Pullen, Clemente, McGruder, and Samuels would be a top 15 team? (Considering Judge has basically been non-existent).
Probably not. A lot can be happen, especially w/ transfers.
good point. still i'd hate to see kstate fan's get all missourish and assume that martin's system and eye for talent will turn any non-random assortment of martin recruited 3 stars into an top 15 team.
I'm holding out hope for a CK-ish transfer, more than I'm banking on Frank's magical system. I've pretty much given up hope of 5 star recruits, and barely think we have a chance w/ fringe top 100 guys any more (unless they're transfers).
:embarrassed:
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How good is Nino Williams?
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Looking back what we thought our post-beasley roster would be, would we think a core of Pullen, Clemente, McGruder, and Samuels would be a top 15 team? (Considering Judge has basically been non-existent).
Probably not. A lot can be happen, especially w/ transfers.
good point. still i'd hate to see kstate fan's get all missourish and assume that martin's system and eye for talent will turn any non-random assortment of martin recruited 3 stars into an top 15 team.
I'm holding out hope for a CK-ish transfer, more than I'm banking on Frank's magical system. I've pretty much given up hope of 5 star recruits, and barely think we have a chance w/ fringe top 100 guys any more (unless they're transfers).
:embarrassed:
that's why im hoping our program actually being good and on tv and stuff will help. Time will tell.
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I'm holding out hope for a CK-ish transfer, more than I'm banking on Frank's magical system. I've pretty much given up hope of 5 star recruits, and barely think we have a chance w/ fringe top 100 guys any more (unless they're transfers).
:embarrassed:
ck has been good lately, but i think if you wanted to pick out reasons why kstate is better than expected this year, it is like 70% unrated 3 star pullen playing like a 1st or 2nd team all big 12 player. maybe 20% unrated, late-recruited 3 star samuels playing like an hon mention.
don't get why you are down on kstate future recruiting. the staff knows how to recruit, and the environment is getting easier, not harder.
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ck has been good lately, but i think if you wanted to pick out reasons why kstate is better than expected this year, it is like 70% unrated 3 star pullen playing like a 1st or 2nd team all big 12 player. maybe 20% unrated, late-recruited 3 star samuels playing like an hon mention.
I don't necessarily disagree.
don't get why you are down on kstate future recruiting. the staff knows how to recruit, and the environment is getting easier, not harder.
because I haven't seen results. I mean, our biggest recruiting success since the Judge commitment was stealing Nick Russell from SMU. Don't see how the environment is changing significantly (easier or harder). I don't think the positive media exposure mentioned in this thread helps as much as people think in the short term. It takes a long period of sustained success to get random interest because you're on TV a lot. IMO.
Granted, as you have mentioned several times, we just don't know what's happening since J-Mart left. So it might not be as bad as I suspect.
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Don't see how the environment is changing significantly (easier or harder). I don't think the positive media exposure mentioned in this thread helps as much as people think in the short term. It takes a long period of sustained success to get random interest because you're on TV a lot. IMO.
you mention it yourself. on natl tv. i don't think it takes a long time before that changes the environment. maybe not is getting random interest, but in getting a better reception to targeted interest. i don't think it takes that long.
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Granted, as you have mentioned several times, we just don't know what's happening since J-Mart left. So it might not be as bad as I suspect.
Would love nothing more than ksu picking up a big commitment out of nowhere thanks to the impotence of kitchmanmeek.
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ck has been good lately, but i think if you wanted to pick out reasons why kstate is better than expected this year, it is like 70% unrated 3 star pullen playing like a 1st or 2nd team all big 12 player. maybe 20% unrated, late-recruited 3 star samuels playing like an hon mention.
Yeah, its amazing how those 2 have made up for the terrible, selfish play of Clemente.
And agreed on the "environment" part, if Frank and 'Te can't parlay some of this exposure into some more furtile recruiting then I'll be very disappointed.
Learn from the DOD mistakes!
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Clarification: Transfering if Martin bails.
NBA talent yes, but stupid to dash to NBA if hes not putting up NBA quality numbers. JMO
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ck has been good lately, but i think if you wanted to pick out reasons why kstate is better than expected this year, it is like 70% unrated 3 star pullen playing like a 1st or 2nd team all big 12 player. maybe 20% unrated, late-recruited 3 star samuels playing like an hon mention.
Yeah, its amazing how those 2 have made up for the terrible, selfish play of Clemente.
And agreed on the "environment" part, if Frank and 'Te can't parlay some of this exposure into some more furtile recruiting then I'll be very disappointed.
Learn from the DOD mistakes!
Frank seems to be the anti-snyder. Hopefully recruiting reflects that. :)
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ck has been good lately, but i think if you wanted to pick out reasons why kstate is better than expected this year, it is like 70% unrated 3 star pullen playing like a 1st or 2nd team all big 12 player. maybe 20% unrated, late-recruited 3 star samuels playing like an hon mention.
I don't necessarily disagree.
don't get why you are down on kstate future recruiting. the staff knows how to recruit, and the environment is getting easier, not harder.
because I haven't seen results. I mean, our biggest recruiting success since the Judge commitment was stealing Nick Russell from SMU. Don't see how the environment is changing significantly (easier or harder). I don't think the positive media exposure mentioned in this thread helps as much as people think in the short term. It takes a long period of sustained success to get random interest because you're on TV a lot. IMO.
Granted, as you have mentioned several times, we just don't know what's happening since J-Mart left. So it might not be as bad as I suspect.
The Key is how we develop our players in the program. I have seen flashes of Russell which make him look like he has a bunch of upside! Irving will at very least be a lock down defender that can handle the ball without turning it over(unlike Sutton)! If you have a starting line of:
pg: Russell
sg: McGruds
sf: Samuels
pf: Judge
c: Assp.
That to me can be as good as the line-up we have now depending on Judge and Russells improvements! Now all you have to do is build up the bench! Transfers will help tho!
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Clarification: Transfering if Martin bails.
NBA talent yes, but stupid to dash to NBA if hes not putting up NBA quality numbers. JMO
You are making yourself sound more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) by the second
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:runaway:
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Don't see how the environment is changing significantly (easier or harder). I don't think the positive media exposure mentioned in this thread helps as much as people think in the short term. It takes a long period of sustained success to get random interest because you're on TV a lot. IMO.
you mention it yourself. on natl tv. i don't think it takes a long time before that changes the environment. maybe not is getting random interest, but in getting a better reception to targeted interest. i don't think it takes that long.
Martin's validation is an important part of the equation as well.. He's a more proven commodity now. Would be crazy to think more doors won't be open.
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players go where they're told to go by their people, who, in theory, should be our people. think art alverez. think Te '430k.
don't give me this "I saw them on ESPN2" or "the better we are, the better we recruit" bullshit. our staff needs to continue to leverage and strengthen our connections in the aau circuit while at the same time building new ones.
i like dreaming of great transfers like clems and CK but the reality is that those type of impact transfers are far from what you should expect. imo.
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players go where they're told to go by their people, who, in theory, should be our people. think art alverez. think Te '430k.
don't give me this "I saw them on ESPN2" or "the better we are, the better we recruit" bullshit. our staff needs to continue to leverage and strengthen our connections in the aau circuit while at the same time building new ones.
i like dreaming of great transfers like clems and CK but the reality is that those type of impact transfers are far from what you should expect. imo.
Agreed on the going there because they were told to go there but being on TV does help. If you told an elite caliber youngster 5 years ago to go to KSU he would of laughed in your face. Winning, Huggins/Martin and being on TV have changed that, now he will only giggle and open his hand wider.
IMO the whole "Saw them on TV and really wanted to be a part of it" really only works on 3 star or less caliber players
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Agreed on the going there because they were told to go there but being on TV does help. If you told an elite caliber youngster 5 years ago to go to KSU he would of laughed in your face. Winning, Huggins/Martin and being on TV have changed that, now he will only giggle and open his hand wider.
Bill Walker and Michael Beasley, the 5 star elites, came here because of connections. they didn't give a damn where/who K-State was.
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I think the TV stuff may help with Spradling/Tyrell Reed level recruits....which aren't the ones we care about.
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Agreed on the going there because they were told to go there but being on TV does help. If you told an elite caliber youngster 5 years ago to go to KSU he would of laughed in your face. Winning, Huggins/Martin and being on TV have changed that, now he will only giggle and open his hand wider.
Bill Walker and Michael Beasley, the 5 star elites, came here because of connections. they didn't give a damn where/who K-State was.
qft, michael couldn't even find kansas on a map
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IMO the whole "Saw them on TV and really wanted to be a part of it" really only works on 3 star or less caliber players
you have it backwards. recruits don't see crap on tv and want to be part of it. they go to teams that are on tv a lot because they want to be on tv.
elite recruits don't go to teams that aren't going to play on natl tv. sub-elite recruits only do if they can't get offers from a team that's on tv more.
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Elite programs exist because of their elite talent.
Elite talent is a result of being an elite program.
Whether or not Kansas State has an elite basketball program, we can't say.
It seems however, that if at any point you are elite, you should, in theory, be capable of holding onto your eliteness.
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It seems however, that if at any point you are elite, you should, in theory, be capable of holding onto your eliteness.
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players go where they're told to go by their people, who, in theory, should be our people. think art alverez. think Te '430k.
don't give me this "I saw them on ESPN2" or "the better we are, the better we recruit" bullshit. our staff needs to continue to leverage and strengthen our connections in the aau circuit while at the same time building new ones.
I agree. Getting on TV is nice, but it isn't like we received any kind of serious bump from the Beasley/Walker ESPN lovefest. (If we did, :flush: )
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kstate is on natl tv more this year than in 07-08.
and they signed a top 25 class the nov following that season. what more, exactly, did you want?
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Frank becoming a rock star can't hurt either.
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kstate is on natl tv more this year than in 07-08.
and they signed a top 25 class the nov following that season. what more, exactly, did you want?
the class had nothing to do w/ TV.
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TV helps. Don't know how it can't. Wouldn't be the sole reason some kid came to ksu (and I don't think anyone's saying otherwise) but it at a minimum is something that should help you either establish connections and/or strengthen them. I mean, no one's denying that the connection to 'Te is why Mike, Samuels, Wally, McGruds came....but there were, like, many other DCA'ers that didn't come to ksu....so maybe since we do get more exposure, we get more of those kids. Or maybe it strengthens our Gauchos relationships because we're viewed as a better program and the kids see Kelly punking Texas. I dunno.
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the class had nothing to do w/ TV.
impossible to know.
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the class had nothing to do w/ TV.
impossible to know.
Well, Judge and McGruder committed before Beasley played a game. Russell and Irving might have been influenced, but :flush:
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the class had nothing to do w/ TV.
impossible to know.
i'm sure tv doesn't hurt, just saying that if we want to focus on one thing - it's the relationship our staff has with handlers, because ultimately (tony mitchell/stephon hannah) it doesn't much matter where the kid wants to play and whether or not he saw us beat Baylor on ESPN2 or whatever.
and the transfer thing, we hit the powerball twice. clems/ck are by far the exception to the transfer rule - remember Goody's impact transfer article. i'd be surprised if we are ever able to get a transfer to produce like they have.
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i'm sure tv doesn't hurt, just saying that if we want to focus on one thing - it's the relationship our staff has with handlers, because ultimately (tony mitchell/stephon hannah) it doesn't much matter where the kid wants to play and whether or not he saw us beat Baylor on ESPN2 or whatever.
some recruits jump at the first offer that's pushed on them, but not all do. they all want to be on tv.
why focus on just one thing? who thinks that recruits only look at one thing?
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i'm sure tv doesn't hurt, just saying that if we want to focus on one thing - it's the relationship our staff has with handlers, because ultimately (tony mitchell/stephon hannah) it doesn't much matter where the kid wants to play and whether or not he saw us beat Baylor on ESPN2 or whatever.
some recruits jump at the first offer that's pushed on them, but not all do. they all want to be on tv.
why focus on just one thing? who thinks that recruits only look at one thing?
your momma
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IMO the whole "Saw them on TV and really wanted to be a part of it" really only works on 3 star or less caliber players
you have it backwards. recruits don't see crap on tv and want to be part of it. they go to teams that are on tv a lot because they want to be on tv.
elite recruits don't go to teams that aren't going to play on natl tv. sub-elite recruits only do if they can't get offers from a team that's on tv more.
QFT. Mizzou is a pretty good example as well. After last season their recruiting got a huge boost.
If someone doesn't think that two straight top ten seasons doesn't influence high-level recruits, they should probably have their head checked.
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IMO the whole "Saw them on TV and really wanted to be a part of it" really only works on 3 star or less caliber players
you have it backwards. recruits don't see crap on tv and want to be part of it. they go to teams that are on tv a lot because they want to be on tv.
elite recruits don't go to teams that aren't going to play on natl tv. sub-elite recruits only do if they can't get offers from a team that's on tv more.
QFT. Mizzou is a pretty good example as well. After last season their recruiting got a huge boost.
Not really. They just lucked into Mitchell, and Pressey was a family friend of Anderson.
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I have hopes for Southwell. good player in a good HS program. Akeem Wright with good handles.
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To be fair, I have better handles than Akeem.
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Akeem athletic ability with Stew like handles?
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Akeem athletic ability with Stew like handles?
That's just Akeem
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Cire 1
steve dave 0
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Stew was shockingly bad at handling the ball for someone whose primary responsibility was to handle the ball.
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Stew was shockingly bad at handling the ball for someone whose primary responsibility was to handle the ball.
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no.
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steve dave 0
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Stew was shockingly bad at handling the ball for someone whose primary responsibility was to handle the ball.
So I should win!
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I have hopes for Southwell. good player in a good HS program. Akeem Wright with good handles.
Southwell appears to have about 45% of Akeem's athleticism.
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I have hopes for Southwell. good player in a good HS program. Akeem Wright with good handles.
Southwell appears to have about 45% of Akeem's athleticism.
yikes, I don't like that percentage. PW, he seems to have the PW attitude?
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I have hopes for Southwell. good player in a good HS program. Akeem Wright with good handles.
Southwell appears to have about 45% of Akeem's athleticism.
yikes, I don't like that percentage. PW, he seems to have the PW attitude?
Good guy. Very average athlete.
Thoughts on Nino?
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no.
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steve dave 0
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Stew was shockingly bad at handling the ball for someone whose primary responsibility was to handle the ball.
So I should win!
like Akeem's handles (for his position) better than Stew's.
make it 0-0.
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How much does Southwell just keep the new york area open? Saw an interview with Southwell saying he's trying to spread the emaw word. I think maybe just pulling him from New York helps keep KSU a name, albiet a small name, in the NYC area. Kelly, JHR, Southwell.... New York is a good area to have to inroads to.
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i'm sure tv doesn't hurt, just saying that if we want to focus on one thing - it's the relationship our staff has with handlers, because ultimately (tony mitchell/stephon hannah) it doesn't much matter where the kid wants to play and whether or not he saw us beat Baylor on ESPN2 or whatever.
some recruits jump at the first offer that's pushed on them, but not all do. they all want to be on tv.
why focus on just one thing? who thinks that recruits only look at one thing?
your momma
Probably your best post ever.
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How much does Southwell just keep the new york area open? Saw an interview with Southwell saying he's trying to spread the emaw word. I think maybe just pulling him from New York helps keep KSU a name, albiet a small name, in the NYC area. Kelly, JHR, Southwell.... New York is a good area to have to inroads to.
This. NY Gauchos, DC Assault, and Miami Tropics + KSU being a marquee name in cbb this season and next means good things for our recruiting.
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and the transfer thing, we hit the powerball twice. clems/ck are by far the exception to the transfer rule
what about Asprilla? another exception :dunno:
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I have hopes for Southwell. good player in a good HS program. Akeem Wright with good handles.
Southwell appears to have about 45% of Akeem's athleticism.
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I'm seeing more and more Tesla's around town....this is pretty cool:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/06/21/tesla_battery_swapping_elon_musk_demonstrates_90_second_robotic_swap_technology.html
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I'm seeing more and more Tesla's around town....this is pretty cool:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/06/21/tesla_battery_swapping_elon_musk_demonstrates_90_second_robotic_swap_technology.html
K-State bball is so mumped right now, guys.
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Tesla guy said that their $70k ride will be $30k in like five yrs. Gonna get one then.
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http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/21/the-lg-rolling-bot-is-a-bb-8-for-your-home/
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https://twitter.com/AustenAllred/status/814217068467736576
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