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Projected starters and reserves listed by main position:
PG - Jacob Pullen, Martavious Irving, Will Spradling, Juevol Myles
SG - Rodney McGruder, Shane Southwell, Nick Russell, Jarrod Kruger
SF - Jamar Samuels, Nino Williams, Victor Ojeleye
PF - Curtis Kelly, Wally Judge
C - Freddy Asprilla, Jordan Henriquez-Roberts
I know, Nick Russell is considered a PG, but I think he'll spend more time at SG.
Projected minutes per game:
Jacob Pullen: 33
Curtis Kelly: 25
Jamar Samuels: 25
Freddy Asprilla: 19
Wally Judge: 17
Rodney McGruder: 17
Jordan Henriquez-Roberts: 10
Martavious Irving: 10
Nick Russell: 8
Shane Southwell: 8
Will Spradling: 8
Nino Williams: 8
Juevol Myles: 5
Victor Ojeleye: 4
Jarrod Kruger: 3
Projected minutes played at each position:
1 - Jacob Pullen: 18, Martavious Irving: 8, Will Spradling: 8, Juevol Myles: 3, Nick Russell: 3
2 - Jacob Pullen: 15, Rodney McGruder: 9, Nick Russell: 5, Shane Southwell: 4, Jarrod Kruger: 3, Martavious Irving: 2, Juevol Myles: 2
3 - Jamar Samuels: 16, Rodney McGruder: 8, Nino Williams: 8, Victor Ojeleye: 4, Shane Southwell: 4
4 - Curtis Kelly: 20, Wally Judge: 11, Jamar Samuels: 9
5 - Freddy Asprilla: 19, Jordan Henriquez-Roberts: 10, Wally Judge: 6, Curtis Kelly: 5
This is just my best guess based on things I've seen posted here, news stories, and stats. Does it seem realistic, or off base? Anyone with inside info or higher bbiq please chime in.
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pls use the appropriate player's nicknames tia.
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Jamar will not make the transition to the three as his primary spot.
Staying strong in this belief.
Hope I am wrong.
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Jamar will not make the transition to the three as his primary spot.
Staying strong in this belief.
Hope I am wrong.
We don't really have anyone else to play the three. (Unless Nino comes in dominates from the get-go, which is asking quite a bit for a frosh, especially a frosh who wasn't even planning on being at college this year until very recently.) Can't really have CK, Jam Sam, and Wally splitting minutes at the 4, either.
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Jake, Tay/Russell, McGrudes
Three guard set.
If or when Jamar does play the 3, it won't be the step-out-and-drive/shoot type of 3. It will be the basically-two-4's-on-the-floor-at-the-same-time type of 3.
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Jamar will not make the transition to the three as his primary spot.
Staying strong in this belief.
Hope I am wrong.
We don't really have anyone else to play the three. (Unless Nino comes in dominates from the get-go, which is asking quite a bit for a frosh, especially a frosh who wasn't even planning on being at college this year until very recently.) Can't really have CK, Jam Sam, and Wally splitting minutes at the 4, either.
You know what I hate? When people use the word "frosh." That is all. Carry on.
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Jamar will not make the transition to the three as his primary spot.
Staying strong in this belief.
Hope I am wrong.
We don't really have anyone else to play the three. (Unless Nino comes in dominates from the get-go, which is asking quite a bit for a frosh, especially a frosh who wasn't even planning on being at college this year until very recently.) Can't really have CK, Jam Sam, and Wally splitting minutes at the 4, either.
You know what I hate? When people use the word "frosh." That is all. Carry on.
I don't much care for it either. I wont't be using again.
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Jake, Tay/Russell, McGrudes
Three guard set.
If or when Jamar does play the 3, it won't be the step-out-and-drive/shoot type of 3. It will be the basically-two-4's-on-the-floor-at-the-same-time type of 3.
I like this. Jam Sam splits time at the 3/4 and Judge splits time at the 4/5?
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I hope Russell starts.
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I hope Russell starts.
I hope Russell starts being a good player. He wasn't last season.
Jake and Tay are better, and I bet Sprads is too. I know Nick has improved over the summer, but so has everyone else. Then again, I haven't seen their practices so I could be full of crap.
I'd love to see some of you guys' player/position/mpg breakdowns.
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I hope Russell starts.
ate lunch w/ him @ the Derb, quality human funny guy. likes the deli sandwiches, cheeseburgers, and french fries. Drinks chocolate milk. nothing more...
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I hope Russell starts.
ate lunch w/ him @ the Derb, quality human funny guy. likes the deli sandwiches, cheeseburgers, and french fries. Drinks chocolate milk. nothing more...
Well then, what are we worried about? The guy likes sandwiches.
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You know who else likes sandwiches? Magic Johnson.
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Not sandwiches....you're thinking of AIDS.
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funny guy.
everyone can be the best at something. :runaway:
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I hope Russell starts.
I hope Russell starts being a good player. He wasn't last season.
Jake and Tay are better, and I bet Sprads is too. I know Nick has improved over the summer, but so has everyone else. Then again, I haven't seen their practices so I could be full of crap.
I'd love to see some of you guys' player/position/mpg breakdowns.
How do you know he wasn't a good player? He never got the chance to play because Frank only cares about defense. Also, there's no way Tay is a better player than Russell.
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Also, there's no way Tay is a better player than Russell.
A) no duh
B) they play different positions
C) shut up before you say something stupid like Russell is a PG
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I hope Russell starts.
I hope Russell starts being a good player. He wasn't last season.
Jake and Tay are better, and I bet Sprads is too. I know Nick has improved over the summer, but so has everyone else. Then again, I haven't seen their practices so I could be full of crap.
I'd love to see some of you guys' player/position/mpg breakdowns.
How do you know he wasn't a good player? He never got the chance to play because Frank only cares about defense. Also, there's no way Tay is a better player than Russell.
I admit the sample size is small, since Nick played only 142 minutes the whole season compared to Tay's 339. But I think it's enough as long as you're not comparing on a per-game basis. Look at their stats side-by-side:
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=martavious-irving&p1=nick-russell
Nick had a few advantages over Tay. Notably, he was a much better defensive rebounder, which seems natural given his 3" height advantage. But Tay's assist to turnover ratio was much better, and his offensive rating was better. He also had a higher steal percentage. Just going by the numbers, Tay was the better player last season. But I'm open to other arguments. I know Nick was a higher-rated recruit, so maybe he just had a bad season? :dunno:
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Nick's biggest issue last year was that he looked like a FP when handling the ball.
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Why not put Nick at pg?
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Starters:
PG - Irving
SG - Pullen
SF - McGruder
PF - Samuels
C - Kelly
Key reserves:
Asprilla, Russell, Judge, Nino, Sprads
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Starters:
PG - Irving
SG - Pullen
SF - McGruder
PF - Samuels
C - Kelly
Key reserves:
Asprilla, Russell, Judge, Nino, Sprads
So, you've moved all my starters up one spot, knocking Asprilla out of the starting lineup and adding Tay to the 1 spot. It's possible. :dunno:
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Why not put Nick at pg?
His A/T ratio was pretty bad. Compare his 0.6 to Tay's 1.6.
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Ben's lineup would be okay for certain matchups but I don't think Kelly is big enough at C. Move him over to the 4, with Spri at the 5.
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Also, there's no way Tay is a better player than Russell.
A) no duh
B) they play different positions
C) shut up before you say something stupid like Russell is a PG
Wasn't he recruited as a PG?
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Also, there's no way Tay is a better player than Russell.
A) no duh
B) they play different positions
C) shut up before you say something stupid like Russell is a PG
Wasn't he recruited as a PG?
that's what his bio said
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Ben's lineup would be okay for certain matchups but I don't think Kelly is big enough at C. Move him over to the 4, with Spri at the 5.
There's really no need for a true center in the modern age of college basketball. Samuels presents matchup problems at the 4 because of his ability to score from the perimeter, and Kelly is just a beast down low in the post. I kind of see Asprilla being a better, more skilled version of Colon next year.
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Ben's lineup would be okay for certain matchups but I don't think Kelly is big enough at C. Move him over to the 4, with Spri at the 5.
There's really no need for a true center in the modern age of college basketball. Samuels presents matchup problems at the 4 because of his ability to score from the perimeter, and Kelly is just a beast down low in the post. I kind of see Asprilla being a better, more skilled version of Colon next year.
I'm already sick of the Colon comparo only because just about anyone not named Colon is a better more skilled version of Colon. I did love me some Colon though (that's what she said).
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I personally like to think of Spri as a larger, less talented version of LeBron. :dunno:
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Also, there's no way Tay is a better player than Russell.
A) no duh
B) they play different positions
C) shut up before you say something stupid like Russell is a PG
Wasn't he recruited as a PG?
that's what his bio said
So don't you think he's going to play PG?
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I don't Russell will take many minutes from Pullen, Tay, Sprads, and Maple Leaf at the 1. Thinking that his best opportunity for mins would be at the 2.
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Spri (from what I've heard) sounds like Dexter Pittman.....big wide body with a good hook shot and good post moves
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I don't Russell will take many minutes from Pullen, Tay, Sprads, and Maple Leaf at the 1. Thinking that his best opportunity for mins would be at the 2.
I don't think Maple Leaf Canadian Bacon (I like this better) will get any more minutes at the 1 than Nick. He's not highly touted. He's probably good enough to get garbage time at the 1 and that's it. I hope he proves me wrong.
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Also, there's no way Tay is a better player than Russell.
A) no duh
B) they play different positions
C) shut up before you say something stupid like Russell is a PG
Wasn't he recruited as a PG?
that's what his bio said
So don't you think he's going to play PG?
No
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Nick needs to hope his shot is money. #2 or quit.
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There have been several "reports" from various places that have said the coaching staff a) really likes Nick as a player, but he needed to "mature" (which is why he didn't play as much last year as Tay) and b) he will likely play a different role than they originally recruited him for. It sounds like they thought he would develop into a PG focus combo guard, but his skill set as he matures looks like it will be more of a SG focus.
I think the thought is that Irving is probably more of the PG focus of the combo spot from the guards in that class. Then it appears that Sprads is the PG focus of the next class and the Canadian is just to provide PG focus depth.
I think the hope for this year at this point is for Pullen to take the PG spot and then competition for back-up between Irving, Sprads, and Canada. Then McGruder at the SG spot (with some time at the SF depending on match-ups, etc.) with Russell and perhaps Sprads providing depth. But we could see any combination of guards out there, as long as there is someone there that the staff trusts as the primary ball handler at one of the two combo guard spots. And then maybe even some 3 guard line-ups for smaller teams if the staff builds enough trust that 3 of those guys together can be effective.
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If we go with a lineup of Tay, Pullen, Jamar, CK, and Spri there are four legit scoring options and very good defensive team. Tay would have to prove he can control the offense and improve his handle, which wasn't great last year. And I'd worry a bit about another Dom situation in which defenders can sluff down and pack in the post/trap Pull. Aside from the occasional step back three, Tay doesn't have much of an offensive arsenal. Maybe with a season under his belt he can actually make a layup. I have faith. But mostly I see this as a "Colon lineup" that starts most games but Frank gets the team going by quickly taking Tay out and replacing with Rod or (needs to be much improved) Nick.
This team really has fantastic depth. As everyone has said, the key is for a couple guards to step up and provide options depending on whether Cob plays 1 or the 2, which will depend on the opponent. I believe Rod is going to be very good and can start at the 2 this year. Regardless of the matchup, Frank is going to want to give Jake, the figurehead of the rebirth of KSU basketball, minutes at point that he desperately wants to show he can be an NBA player. How long Frank gives him the chance, who knows, but that means someone else is going to get some extended minutes at the 2. That should be Rod, but may be Nick. I can't see Tay playing that role.
Jamar isn't perfectly suited for the 3 but I think that's where he's going to play mostly. Wally should exclusively play the 4. He will foul out quickly at the 5. Spri may need half a season to get used to Big 12 caliber play. CK is likely going to need to shift to the 5 when Spri struggles. There just aren't enough minutes for Jamar, Wally, CK, and Spri to split those two spots. They're too valuable and Jamar is the most obvious one who can be utilized elsewhere and has before. And I do think JHR will see some minutes. I liked a lot of what I saw out of him last year although I know there are some haters. Rod can also play some 3 in the Tay/Sprads, Cob/Nick set with Nino/Southie providing small forward depth. One or both of the freshmen will need to log good minutes. I think both are more than capable. The unexpected buzz about Shane over the summer has me feeling pretty good about the latest NY addition.
I don't get the 3 guard sets suggestion. It doesn't really make sense. There's no reason to have Tay and Rod playing at the expense of one of Jamar, CK, and Spri, unless Spri turns out to suck.
Holy shazbot! this season is going to be awesome. :bball: But it's so far away....
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I don't get the 3 guard sets suggestion. It doesn't really make sense. There's no reason to have Tay and Rod playing at the expense of one of Jamar, CK, and Spri, unless Spri turns out to suck.
figger talked about playing 3 guards on his podcast. he seemed pretty determined.
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I don't get the 3 guard sets suggestion. It doesn't really make sense. There's no reason to have Tay and Rod playing at the expense of one of Jamar, CK, and Spri, unless Spri turns out to suck.
figger talked about playing 3 guards on his podcast. he seemed pretty determined.
defense
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Thanks for the analysis, B&C. It pretty well mirrors what I've been thinking. I can't wait for the new season, and to see what the new guys can do, and to see how our 2nd-year players have developed over the summer. Hell, to see how everyone's developed. God damn, it's gonna be fun.
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I believe it's this thread that Underdog Wildcat wanted bumped.
Does anyone have any new information that might contribute to a refined minutes breakdown? Only thing I've heard that might change my original post is that Myles might be better than some of us thought.
:users:
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I "got in the game" today listening to Woalters terrible radio show on my commute home and Undy was on. They talked about tailgating and the football game, so outside of some meaningless comments about depth and getting pumped for late night, its hard for me to really provide any updated information.
Thank Matt Wolters being a mouth breathing moron.
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I believe it's this thread that Underdog Wildcat wanted bumped.
Ask and I shall receive! :ksu:
Look for my EPIC* contribution to this thread sometime this weekend.
* By EPIC, I mean completely ordinary and predictable.
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PRESEASON: MEN’S BASKETBALL TIDBITS
Posted by Pett on October 21, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Chatted with a person very close to the basketball program. This is what he had to say. Starting line-up will most likely go as followed:
PG – Pullen (Said Jake will definitely be a PG first this year).
SG – Irving (Surprised me when he said that Martavious was going to get the start over Russell but sounds like MI has been working really hard this off-season).
SF – McGruder (Said Jam-Sam will likely come off the bench again just to get that extra surge).
PF – Judge (Said Wally is the most improved player over the off-season, if you went to Midnight Madness you could definitely see that).
C – Kelly (Going with a more athletic line-up with Judge & Kelly).
“Then you have Russell, Samuels, & Asprilla coming off the bench with all of that energy.
More on the new guys: http://kstatriots.com/2010/10/21/basketball-tidbits/
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Wish that guy had said something about DPete...
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I really like Myles. Hope he can adjust quickly to the Big XII.
I don't about playing Irving at the 2. Don't see enough of an offensive game to put him there unless they think he is a good enough of a shooter to rely on backdoor screens to get him open from the corner. Or roll him off the same screens to get a mid-range shot.
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Sure is a good thing Frank is the coach and not you, dumbass.
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Any HBBIQ guys have a good idea of how Pullen's minutes were split last year between the 1 and 2 spots?
IMO this season is totally dependent upon finding the right person to run the point with Jake off the ball
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Any HBBIQ guys have a good idea of how Pullen's minutes were split last year between the 1 and 2 spots?
IMO this season is totally dependent upon finding the right person to run the point with Jake off the ball
It really didn't go down like "okay you are the one here, you are the one there," so no. What people keep forgetting is that Frank likes to have more than one ball handler on the court, an option 1A 1B. People who are looking for a point guard or a shooting guard really need to be looking for a guy who Frank trusts with the ball and who will defend. Who that is, who Tue hell knows, none of us have been at practice? Rumblings of 'Tay coming on doesn't surprise me, we don't need points from that other guard position, we already know Frank will sacrifice scoring for players who are doing what he wants them to do.
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All we need the other guard to do is not turn the ball over and defend the other team's best guard. I don't think we can ask Pullen to run the point, score points and guard the other team's best guy if we want to him to stay healthy all season.
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All we need the other guard to do is not turn the ball over and defend the other team's best guard. I don't think we can ask Pullen to run the point, score points and guard the other team's best guy if we want to him to stay healthy all season.
It's exactly what he did last year. Again you all have an incorrect sense of "running the point"
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Any HBBIQ guys have a good idea of how Pullen's minutes were split last year between the 1 and 2 spots?
IMO this season is totally dependent upon finding the right person to run the point with Jake off the ball
It really didn't go down like "okay you are the one here, you are the one there," so no. What people keep forgetting is that Frank likes to have more than one ball handler on the court, an option 1A 1B. People who are looking for a point guard or a shooting guard really need to be looking for a guy who Frank trusts with the ball and who will defend. Who that is, who Tue hell knows, none of us have been at practice? Rumblings of 'Tay coming on doesn't surprise me, we don't need points from that other guard position, we already know Frank will sacrifice scoring for players who are doing what he wants them to do.
This helps me understand Frank's system a little, but I still feel like Jake was most effective offensively last year OFF the ball when Clemente could run the show. I get that with Jake and Dennis it was a 1A and 1B sort of thing, but it seems that Dennis was pretty consistant at being the 1A and making the offense go. I'm a LBBIQ so take that for what's its worth
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Any HBBIQ guys have a good idea of how Pullen's minutes were split last year between the 1 and 2 spots?
IMO this season is totally dependent upon finding the right person to run the point with Jake off the ball
It really didn't go down like "okay you are the one here, you are the one there," so no. What people keep forgetting is that Frank likes to have more than one ball handler on the court, an option 1A 1B. People who are looking for a point guard or a shooting guard really need to be looking for a guy who Frank trusts with the ball and who will defend. Who that is, who Tue hell knows, none of us have been at practice? Rumblings of 'Tay coming on doesn't surprise me, we don't need points from that other guard position, we already know Frank will sacrifice scoring for players who are doing what he wants them to do.
This is all true for the half court offense. But, we did have a defined PG role in transition. Meaning, Denny was responsible for being the outlet for whoever got the defensive rebound and pushing the ball in transition. This role is important in Frank’s system and it will be interesting to see who plays this role. My guess is Jake will play this role when he’s in the game.
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Any HBBIQ guys have a good idea of how Pullen's minutes were split last year between the 1 and 2 spots?
IMO this season is totally dependent upon finding the right person to run the point with Jake off the ball
It really didn't go down like "okay you are the one here, you are the one there," so no. What people keep forgetting is that Frank likes to have more than one ball handler on the court, an option 1A 1B. People who are looking for a point guard or a shooting guard really need to be looking for a guy who Frank trusts with the ball and who will defend. Who that is, who Tue hell knows, none of us have been at practice? Rumblings of 'Tay coming on doesn't surprise me, we don't need points from that other guard position, we already know Frank will sacrifice scoring for players who are doing what he wants them to do.
This is all true for the half court offense. But, we did have a defined PG role in transition. Meaning, Denny was responsible for being the outlet for whoever got the defensive rebound and pushing the ball in transition. This role is important in Frank’s system and it will be interesting to see who plays this role. My guess is Jake will play this role when he’s in the game.
This was because Denis' speed put crazy pressure on the defense. We obviously don't have anyone with that speed, but an effective up tempo attack can put the same pressure on the d without an insanely fast ball handler.
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pullen was fantastic at hitting 3s coming off screens. you can call that at 2 if you want, but they ran clemente off picks all the time too.
i'd be surprised if any of the other guards can hit a j off a pick, though. so that's 1 instead of 2 with that skill.
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This is probably cheating throwing this on here AFTER practice has started and media day was held but I think I should be granted a reprieve due to the late addition of DPete.
Starters:
1- Pullen 33 MPG
75-80% of those mins will be at the 1. I've always maintained that the most underrated part of Jake's game is his passing/court vision(Quick who's the only player to have 2 double digit assist games in the Huggins/Martin era?) and with the improved finishing ability and depth in our frontcourt, I look for his assist #'s to jump considerably this year. BUT as has been correctly addressed numerous times, Jake is still our best and most proven shotmaker and I do think there will be times he's played off the ball and run off screens to create open looks for him from deep. I also look for us to run more pick and rolls with the ball in his hands at the top of the key. And of yeah, he might be the best backcourt defender in the nation.
2 - Irving 13
If Frank is going to err, it's going to be on the side of physicality and athleticism, and with Tay being our most physical and athletic guard, he gets the starting nod(to start the year at least). And really who am I to disagree with K-statriots?
3 - McGruder 20
I look for McOreb to be much more confident and aggressive when he has the ball this year. I don't necessarily mean as a playmaker, but reduce the TO's and close calls when pressure is applied and ATTACK when there's an opening because as nice as his spot up jumper is, he's at his best slashing and scoring from mid-range or finishing at the rim.
4 - Kelly 26
Our best finisher and defender in the paint last year, I expect that to continue this year. Hopefully, he's knocking down that 17 foot face up jumper with regularity like he was at the end of last year.
5 - Judge 21
Hope Wally can harness his ridiculous athleticism and play stronger and smarter in the paint, particularly on D. Really hope he's developed at least 1 reliable post up move, that could really do wonders for his confidence and our team as a whole.
Bench:
Samuels 21
1st guy off the bench, bringing expected energy and athleticism. Just hope to see more consistency from JamSam, I know that's tough to be consistent coming off the bench every night but without being a clearly defined 3 or 4, 6th man appears to be his effective role for us and it's one he should be used to.
Russell 5
With what little I've seen of Nick, I've been impressed with his handle and passing ability, I'm just not sure he's the greatest "fit"(yeah, I hate that word too) for what Frank wants to put on the floor. Prove my ass wrong Nick, prove me wrong.
Peterson 12
Probably the toughest to call here due to obvious reasons, but the kid's got game, but maybe more importantly he's got Frank's type of game. I believe my projection of 12 MPG is skewed because he will see increased minutes thoughout the year with him possibly being the 2nd or 3rd guy off the bench by the end of the year. Varez Ward but with more offensive game?
Myles 2
Based on what I know about this kid, not sure how he's going to separate himself from the rest of our backcourt to earn minutes.
Sprads 5
Could very well be our PG of the future but has he developed enough physically to see major minutes for us this year?
Asprilla 17
Really looking forward to seeing Freddy's vaunted post moves in action and if he wants to throw his weight around a little, that's fine with me too.
JO 10
2 objectives for JO this year, 1. Alter, not necessarily block, but alter every shot in his area and 2. Knock down some timely OPEN spot up 3's. He can do it!
Southwell 10 Have to like the promising reports we've been hearing about Shane since he basically arrived in Manhattan. On a lesser team, I think he'd get more PT but I still him see him getting some valuable experience.
Ojeleye 1 Hard working brute who doesn't complain. Great guy to have around, especially for practice.
Williams 4 Great athlete with very good jumpshot but we've quite a logjam at that 2/3 spot and I don't think his handling and passing skill have developed enough for him to see a lot of PT this year.
#5 Wildcard!
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Only one left is Potuzak. 1 MPG?
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Haven't done this yet either fff wanted me to go probably no one else cares.
Starters:
Pulls- 32-by conference-35 minutes (this will be Frank's best coaching job. We need Pullen for MAJOR minutes and Pullen can NOT break down over the course of the season. It does not make nearly as much sense to sub out Pullen on defensive possessions before timeouts/end of half etc, but Frank will have to devise strategies to have Pullen get time off in the early going, because down the stretch he will not rest.)
Tay- 15 (this will seem like 20 minutes to Clemente aficionados. The thing is, there are so many hungry players playing behind here, that I'm not sure Tay will hold this down all year.)
Grudes- 20 (Clearly talented and earned Frank's trust, but I think that he, Jamar and the new guys are going to be Frank's foils so that the playing time can get split up. So he will unfairly be in the doghouse for his defense, and Jamar, Southwell, Russell, ojeleye will benefit)
Kelly- 27 (He is going to hold this down and be our rock with Pullen, but the fouls could keep him off the court. Until I see different, I have to bump his minutes, and expect Jamar to find his way to the 3 for some minutes)
Asprilla- 15 (I think he will start the game until the first break in action and then be subbed for Wally and be Lou 2.0. Obviously an upgrade, do not want to further the smear too much, but our front court loves fouls. LOVES THEM! And it will be a circus in the early going to 1. evaluate 2. juggle fouls Frank is going to really earn it this year.)
BENCH (holy crap!)
Jamar- 25 minutes (remember last year? Yeah, more of that. Will not make a great leap forward and will be just as intriguing and frustrating in that "we care about you so much, Jamar!" way. If Jamar can pull it all together, this team could be better than last year.)
Wally- 22 minutes (HUGE leap forward. HUGE. He will get tons of buzz and at some point should replace Asprilla at the latest by conference unless Frank wants to manage this with mental games)
JHR- 10 minutes (defensive/tall guy specialist. Will probably play big minutes and look ok early on or after figgs has broken down some tape on some stupid looking slow white dookie that JHR will be trailing on the box+1. Will score awkward/adorable points and play decent D and we will think "hey he should get some more minutes." Then Kelly will rattle of three straight baskets and we'll forget it ever happened."
Peterson 10 minutes (this guy is much better than the weird leftovers at the back of the fridge right? Yes, mom I know you're making salsa and it isn't ready yet.)
Sprads/Russell/Ojeleye/Southwell/Peterson 25 minutes (unless something dramatic happens Russell is probably transferring imo. He could possibly eat in to Peterson's minutes early on and take on the lion's share of platooning in Tay's spot. Really put up or stfu time here. Southwell? Sprads? Oj :) )
Not sure if this added up.
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hopefully williams redshirts, but he probably won't.
between myles, russell & samuels, will 2 of the 3 leave following this year? almost seems likely.
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oh, and increase asprilla's minutes from everyone's guesses. he's good. and decrease samuels'. he couldn't play the 3 last year, and there's no reason to think he can this year. judge and asprilla's emergence will get squeeze him out of minutes at the 4.
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hopefully williams redshirts, but he probably won't.
between myles, russell & samuels, will 2 of the 3 leave following this year? almost seems likely.
williams is a non-factor. myles is a non-factor. These dudes are non-factors.
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as for Samuels transferring? Seems grumbly, but I have a hard time seeing it. Even if Sprilla is as good as advertised, it will just motivate Frank/Jam to work on his game at the 3. Could see this as a "frustrating transition year" with Jamar emerging as a legit 3/4 swingman that can post up his 3 and pull out his 4. Very Oklahoma Statey player. But I think he is too much of a pussy to transfer and I am struggling to believe that Frank would rather run him off instead of Russell (just obvious) or even JHR to ease the logjam.
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here's the thing with having a 3 (or a 2 or a 1) post up. you have to pull your bigs out for it to work. martin isn't going to do that.
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good news is that our scholarship math is becoming clearer
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Samuels can't transfer to d1. I'm not sure what the point of transferring to d2 would be.
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Samuels can't transfer to d1. I'm not sure what the point of transferring to d2 would be.
He "really just wants to be back in North Carolina around his family"?
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here's the thing with having a 3 (or a 2 or a 1) post up. you have to pull your bigs out for it to work. martin isn't going to do that.
Or pull them to the other side? I mean Jam's playing on the wing, Spri could run a high pick for Pullen and then Kelly just needs to be on the other side of the lane, for a dish if the double comes. NCAA is like child's play in this regard for a team with as many decent passing bigs as we have. If Frank doesn't occasionally go big and do this, then it will be a missed oppy imo considering all the transition points we are losing.
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Only way Myles gets minutes is if he can be the push-it-up transition guy. Haven't seen enough of him to know.
I've thought since last spring Irving starts with McGruds at the SF. Unlike a lot on here, I like Irving. He's a gym rat and physical defender. He hit 3s before last season before drying up in conference when a miss meant he was out of the game.
I do think Sams will get minutes at SF, because for all the 2/3 guys on the team, I think Williams is the only true 3 other than Rodney.
A lot of questions yet. The two proven commodities are Jake and Curtis. What does Asprilla and Peterson bring? How much has Wally or JHR improved?
Any surprises from the new faces or major steps from the sophomores (and Samuels) and there's no limit on what the team can achieve.
Lets face it, Ojeleye is going to get Frank's hustle-example minutes this year. So everybody needs to give him like 2 or 3 minutes of PT in their estimates. Frank will probably ID someone else for that role, too, just to raise my blood pressure. Just who is another unanswered question.
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here's the thing with having a 3 (or a 2 or a 1) post up. you have to pull your bigs out for it to work. martin isn't going to do that.
he's done it occasionally w/ Sutton