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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: j rake on November 30, 2021, 03:27:15 PM
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the word "significant" appears 74 times.
in chapter 8, it appears eight times in six pages.
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What about the phrase “decided schematic advantage”
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the word "significant" appears 74 times.
in chapter 8, it appears eight times in six pages.
big news if true
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the word Prince appears seven times; six for Ron, one for the Prince of Saudi Arabia.
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chapter 17, "Stepping Down."
"...I had a big smile on my face. I had never been one to allow that sort of thing to happen..."
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the word Prince appears seven times; six for Ron, one for the Prince of Saudi Arabia.
:lol:
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the word "significant" appears 74 times.
in chapter 8, it appears eight times in six pages.
significant big news if true
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saddest part of the book, from bill's childhood:
"i witnessed a scene by happenstance that crushed my longstanding belief that professional wrestling was real. while walking by the locker room, i stole a glance at four wrestlers, who were laughing with one another over beer and cigarettes moments before they were supposed to step into the ring and fight each other. i never saw pro wrestling the same way ever again."
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“incredibly readable”
Always a good quality for a book, similar to it being important that a sandwich be eatable.
https://themercury.com/features/review-my-football-life-a-look-at-k-state-footballs-growth-through-snyders-eyes/article_2f4093c1-113f-5067-82bf-8557954cd088.html
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"i can't say that the decision to end the equestrian program didn't strain our relationship, but john did what he believed was in the best interest of the athletic department. the decision just made no sense to me."
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eff it I’m reading this thing
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"i can't say that the decision to end the equestrian program didn't strain our relationship, but john did what he believed was in the best interest of the athletic department. the decision just made no sense to me."
:lol:
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"after jon and i spoke with ron, he left the hotel room. jon and tim wanted to offer ron the head coaching job when they brought him back into the room. i still held out for someone else. "would you allow me to make one last phone call for someone you could interview?" i called jim (leavitt), who told me that he couldn't pursue the kansas state job. (...) jon and tim called ron back into the hotel room, and they offered him the position."
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:cry:
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chapter 17, "Stepping Down."
"...I had a big smile on my face. I had never been one to allow that sort of thing to happen..."
I've never been wont to question if an editor missed something but
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"i run through hundreds of purple pens every year writing notes. my print appears diagonally on my notes and letters because i'm left-handed and i find it easier to write across my body. i probably began this writing style in elementary school. we sat in those wood desks with the arm that flapped over, and there were only right-handed desks, so i had to reach across the desk in order to write."
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I’ll be honest with you guys, I love LHC Bill Snyder and I don’t care who knows it.
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saddest part of the book, from bill's childhood:
"i witnessed a scene by happenstance that crushed my longstanding belief that professional wrestling was real. while walking by the locker room, i stole a glance at four wrestlers, who were laughing with one another over beer and cigarettes moments before they were supposed to step into the ring and fight each other. i never saw pro wrestling the same way ever again."
No child deserves this.
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man I may want to read both books now
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Really hope this made it in, particularly since it involves Fritch. And, yes, I'm an idiot when it comes to embedding this stuff.
https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=39567.msg2057972#msg2057972
Quote from: Kid In the Hall on September 30, 2020, 10:15:38 PM
Repost in honor of Fritch - few love K-State more...
As most people know, the weekly Bill press conferences are pretty much a waste of everyone's time because Bill never actually answers any questions with any amount of substance. So, what typically happens, is most "reporters" don't even bother to ask questions and it's usually the same 3-4 people that ask most of the questions. As we can all probably guess, one of those people is Fritchen.
I can't remember for certain, but I think it was back in 99 during the press conference before K-State played at Nebraska. As Fritchen is prone to doing, he asked this incredibly long-winded question that took about an hour for him to spit out. It was basically something like "Bill, can you talk about what it's like being in a stadium like Nebraska's with 80,000 fans, a historic stadium, they're all yelling before the game, you're underneath the stadium and you can hear them yelling and you're trying to get your players ready for the game (it goes on and on and on and then ends with) can you tell us what you're actually doing right before you take the field?"
Bill pauses for about 10 seconds (probably mocking the fact that Fritch took five minutes to ask a question) and then Bill says, "What's that game that the youngsters like? Chutes and Ladders? Is that what it's called? That's what we do."
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most k-state fans will like this book. it is perfectly fine. but for me, it was just...meh. too shallow and unrevealing. the stuff i cared to read about most - specifics of how the '98 loss crushed his soul, his perception of prince, the feeling of watching his program crumble to the ground 2006-08, his feuds with currie, the '12 baylor loss, etc - were all either unaddressed or quickly glossed over. we don't really learn anything new about him outside of a few anecdotes. i wanted to love it. but i just didn't. :frown:
it is 10x better than the prior book though!
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"i can't say that the decision to end the equestrian program didn't strain our relationship, but john did what he believed was in the best interest of the athletic department. the decision just made no sense to me."
incredible :lol:
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I too was crushed to discover the realities of professional wrestling. It's like we're the same person, except for the Pinocchio stuff.
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saddest part of the book, from bill's childhood:
"i witnessed a scene by happenstance that crushed my longstanding belief that professional wrestling was real. while walking by the locker room, i stole a glance at four wrestlers, who were laughing with one another over beer and cigarettes moments before they were supposed to step into the ring and fight each other. i never saw pro wrestling the same way ever again."
Bill would've been an incredible #HEEL manager.
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most k-state fans will like this book. it is perfectly fine. but for me, it was just...meh. too shallow and unrevealing. the stuff i cared to read about most - specifics of how the '98 loss crushed his soul, his perception of prince, the feeling of watching his program crumble to the ground 2006-08, his feuds with currie, the '12 baylor loss, etc - were all either unaddressed or quickly glossed over. we don't really learn anything new about him outside of a few anecdotes. i wanted to love it. but i just didn't. :frown:
it is 10x better than the prior book though!
That is sad, but I will still buy and read because I hope for good things to happen to Bill and brother D.
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Sounds exactly like this
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Sounds exactly like this
no, no, no. this book is much better. it's no comparison.
also, i should have noted earlier, the cancer chapter is actually quite good. it's about as close to the real bill as you will get and did contain some personal details that were (to my knowledge) not disclosed previously.
this part was the best:
"i called president myers a few days after my surgery and told him i had throat cancer. the athletic director pushed for me to step down. i discovered that he already had an individual in place to become the next head coach. i asked president myers to inform the athletic director that i intended to return for the 2017 season."
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more on "the athletic director."
"media speculation and rumors shifted toward the future of our program. one theory suggested that i was going to corner kansas state into hiring sean as head coach. those theorists were unaware that a few years prior the athletic director eliminated the language in my contract that enabled me to name my successor. i felt that even if i was to step down just one week before the start of the season, the athletic director would find his own guy."
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more on "the athletic director"
"amid the cancer treatments, the fatigue, spring football, and the persistent rumors regarding my future, i encountered another situation. I learned that for an undetermined period of time the athletic director had been calling our players and some of our assistant coaches into his office. he apparently had been asking them to critique our program and my job as head coach. i took issue with the manner by which the conversations were facilitated. it was the veil of secrecy that surrounded these conversations with members of our program that most angered me."
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:lol:
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So he never refers to Gene by name?
I watched the both of them during the ceremonies for Darren earlier this summer. I did find it weird that Gene inserted himself in those ceremonies given he wasn't involved with K-State at all when Darren was here. Anyway Bill and Gene were in very close proximity on the field but never interacted.
We know that Bill is around at least a bit still, I can't imagine he shared his saltines with Gene so this is probably the first time Gene is being exposed to a glimmer of how much Bill hates him.
Also this should 100% put to bed any notion that Gene won't cut oscar's throat at the end of this season. Just a month on the job, bro tried to push out a legend who was in chemo.
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So he never refers to Gene by name?
I watched the both of them during the ceremonies for Darren earlier this summer. I did find it weird that Gene inserted himself in those ceremonies given he wasn't involved with K-State at all when Darren was here. Anyway Bill and Gene were in very close proximity on the field but never interacted.
We know that Bill is around at least a bit still, I can't imagine he shared his saltines with Gene so this is probably the first time Gene is being exposed to a glimmer of how much Bill hates him.
Also this should 100% put to bed any notion that Gene won't cut oscar's throat at the end of this season. Just a month on the job, bro tried to push out a legend who was in chemo.
the "athletic director" that he's referring to is currie, not gene.
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bill essentially confirmed that mike cox betrayed him, as cox was the only member of his '16 coaching staff to not be retained the next year:
"it became evident that we had more loyalty issues within our coaching staff than i could remember. over the years, people suggested that my loyalty toward our assistant coaches was one of my flaws because i had never fired an assistant coach. for the first time in my career, i had no choice but to release a member of our coaching staff following the 2016 season."
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So he never refers to Gene by name?
I watched the both of them during the ceremonies for Darren earlier this summer. I did find it weird that Gene inserted himself in those ceremonies given he wasn't involved with K-State at all when Darren was here. Anyway Bill and Gene were in very close proximity on the field but never interacted.
We know that Bill is around at least a bit still, I can't imagine he shared his saltines with Gene so this is probably the first time Gene is being exposed to a glimmer of how much Bill hates him.
Also this should 100% put to bed any notion that Gene won't cut oscar's throat at the end of this season. Just a month on the job, bro tried to push out a legend who was in chemo.
the "athletic director" that he's referring to is currie, not gene.
That time frame matches up with Gene. John Currie left in February of 2017. Spring football didn't start in February and iirc he had his cancer treatments in the spring and summer of 2017. Gene was named Athletic Director in April 2017, right in the midst of spring football and Bill's cancer treatments. Also iirc, Bill announced he was coming back for the 2017 season in June of that year. Currie had been gone for 4 months. Gene meeting with players as he came on would also match up with the timeline. The coach he had waiting was Klieman. Currie didn't have a guy like Gene did/does.
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more on "the athletic director"
"amid the cancer treatments, the fatigue, spring football, and the persistent rumors regarding my future, i encountered another situation. I learned that for an undetermined period of time the athletic director had been calling our players and some of our assistant coaches into his office. he apparently had been asking them to critique our program and my job as head coach. i took issue with the manner by which the conversations were facilitated. it was the veil of secrecy that surrounded these conversations with members of our program that most angered me."
So I just looked up this time frame and Snyder did have his cancer treatments in February and March, and Currie left in February, so I guess maybe I'm being to literal about his use of spring football which according to a Dennis Dodd article at the time started on April 5th in 2017.
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a few years prior the athletic director eliminated the language in my contract that enabled me to name my successor. i felt that even if i was to step down just one week before the start of the season, the athletic director would find his own guy."
Good job by Currie.
he already had an individual in place to become the next head coach.
It would ne amazing to know who this was.
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Yea would like to know who was curries guy. I would have liked to see Currie make the football hire, I don’t think he would have been as conservative as he was with his basketball hire.
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Yea would like to know who was curries guy. I would have liked to see Currie make the football hire, I don’t think he would have been as conservative as he was with his basketball hire.
pretty sure it was leavitt. he was the guy that could perfectly thread the needle of being anyone but LHC Bill Snyder, yet someone snyder would approve of (despite sean being his preferred option), and wouldn't be overly criticized by fans or media (leavitt had done an awesome job as colorado's DC the year prior and of course was well known by k-state fans from previous stop.)
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i think Currie had someone else as i don't see Leavitt taking the job if Bill was forced out
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hiring oscar was not conservative
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i think Currie had someone else as i don't see Leavitt taking the job if Bill was forced out
i'm speculating, but don't think it would be presented that way. more of an, "if bill is receptive to stepping aside, then..." sort of thing.
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I wouldn't be terribly shocked if Schiano was going to be his guy here as well.
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I wouldn't be terribly shocked if Schiano was going to be his guy here as well.
I think Schiano was a mega rich Tennessee booster's guy.
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hiring oscar was not conservative
Yes it was. Despite him being fired at Illinois, he was the SLTH that most athletic directors love from a basketball coach.
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I wouldn't be terribly shocked if Schiano was going to be his guy here as well.
I think Schiano was a mega rich Tennessee booster's guy.
Schiano and Currie had no professional connections before Tennessee.
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It was for sure/almost definitely Leavitt
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I would've thought Currie would avoid the Snyder tree
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I would've thought Currie would avoid the Snyder tree
Or dudes previously fired for abuse.
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I would've thought Currie would avoid the Snyder tree
Or dudes previously fired for abuse.
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This sounds like Currie
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Idk but there’s a reason that JL was so horned up to get the job in 18. He got fired from Oregon because he was recruiting a staff.
He thought the job was his
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in the book, snyder says it was his idea to have jim include the k-state clause in his contract.
he told me, "oregon wants me to sign a new contract.'"
i told him, "you might have them put into your contract the clause that you would be exempt from any financial penalty if you left to become head coach at kansas state."
snyder said his desire was always to have sean or jim take over as coach someday — in that order.
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JL was currie's way to nudge bill out and avoid sean