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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: bucket on November 21, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
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:lol:
Did you see the start where they showed K-State with our beautiful hill with "Manhattan" and then they showed Iowa State with a Winnebago?!
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Our right side DB just destroyed on that block
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Poorly timed jump
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Will Howard time!
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seems like we might get our asses destroyed today.
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Their stadium is ugly
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Poorly timed jump
Push off.
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why the eff did he cut back?
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LOL, Howard. Welp, I'm out.
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Howard cannot read the defense. Poor calls both times
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I'm glad we went for it though
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We wheeled out a truck of hot garbage this first quarter.
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Howard is a true freshman surrounded by average athleticism. He can only do so much.
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I don't disagree, except they just drive the entire field and scored a touchdown. We're going to lose to Iowa State.
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Welp
Time to start looking for a new coach.
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More brilliant aggressive play by our #19
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This is a disaster. Getting destroyed by Iowa State is an immediate fire alarm.
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Fake season
:zzz:
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Yea but like isn’t half our defense out with COVID? Pretty sure we had barely enough to play this game. Plus I don’t think we practiced all week.
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Losing to people this ugly is a fireable offense.
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Are we going to get blown out?
Defense looks worse than our offense.
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Are we going to get blown out?
Defense looks worse than our offense.
Yes we are going to get blown out.
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Pretty much everything about our team is woof.
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Pretty much everything about our team is woof.
DL is pretty good!
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They can score as many points as they want today.
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Time to start looking for a new coach.
come home, sean.
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I'm very concerned about our LBs next year.....
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Matt Campbell is an idiot so that gives us a chance.
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This playcalling is dogshit and I'm sick of Howard trying to get Vaughn killed.
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I know we all know this, but JC this offense is hot garbage.
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I know we all know this, but JC this offense is hot garbage.
We just seem to be getting worse every week which is extremely frustrating.
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I think we can conclude the Klieman experiment just isn’t working
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Enjoy this day, Havs. You’ve earned it.
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This is the lowest this program has been in a very long time.
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This game should have been postponed. Playing depleted kills any chances of success.
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This game should have been postponed. Playing depleted kills any chances of success.
Yep. Whole season should have been cancelled, really
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I’d like to see Keyon Mozee and Jacardia Wright get some love.
It feels like deuce hasn’t been effective in a few weeks.
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The OU game was legit, but the rest of the season is very sus.
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I mean transfers and true fresh QB and RB make it difficult as well, but having half the scholarship players out with COVID is a recipe for disaster.
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Howard's passes aren't even close.
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I mean transfers and true fresh QB and RB make it difficult as well, but having half the scholarship players out with COVID is a recipe for disaster.
Who else is out besides the 2 starting linebackers and Malik due to covid?
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Teams are so damn mean to Elder.
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I mean transfers and true fresh QB and RB make it difficult as well, but having half the scholarship players out with COVID is a recipe for disaster.
Who else is out besides the 2 starting linebackers and Malik due to covid?
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Lots of young players. Practice was basically impossible
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I mean transfers and true fresh QB and RB make it difficult as well, but having half the scholarship players out with COVID is a recipe for disaster.
Who else is out besides the 2 starting linebackers and Malik due to covid?
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Lots of young players. Practice was basically impossible
Gotcha
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I can't believe I'm planning to watch the second half.
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I’d like to see Keyon Mozee and Jacardia Wright get some love.
It feels like deuce hasn’t been effective in a few weeks.
Well he's the only real threat on our offense so pretty easy to scheme against one guy.
That aside, he got over hyped. All this Sproles talk wasn't fair. Sproles was a generational player who carved out a new position in the NFL.
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Teams are so damn mean to Elder.
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Yeah, I feel bad for him every time they throw at him or make him make an open field tackle :(
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Put Ast in, Jesus
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Teams are so damn mean to Elder.
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new drinking game. drink every time ross elder is either run over by a RB or a second late defending a pass. you'd be mumped up in the first quarter of every game. really concerned about the defense next year. we have absolutely NOTHING at certain positions
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I mean transfers and true fresh QB and RB make it difficult as well, but having half the scholarship players out with COVID is a recipe for disaster.
Who else is out besides the 2 starting linebackers and Malik due to covid?
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I’m not in tune with the roster but apparently we couldn’t practice all week. That plays major mental eff games. I mean ISU is not a great team and they look like BAMA against us. There were people surprised the team got on the buses on Friday.
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is it possible to lose so badly that previous wins are vacated?
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This playcalling is dogshit and I'm sick of Howard trying to get Vaughn killed.
howard is not ready to be a QB. its our coaches fault he is needed as a true frosh. he is incapable of seeing the field and acting on it
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This season has featured two of the worst losses in KSU history.
Time to just drop football. Its a pretty disgusting sport anyway.
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Put Ast in, Jesus
nah we need adam helm
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Kleiman is all about playing whether we have all walkons or full roster. I’m not sure why but maybe he is one of those diversity breeds success guys.
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They just don't care. :facepalm: (ftp://:facepalm:)
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is it possible to lose so badly that previous wins are vacated?
This game will erase the last three decades of KSU football.
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need some better coaching on 3rd and longs. we have to be the most pathetic defense in america on 3rd down. Our LBs just give up 10 yards of room to RBs out of the backfield. need a complete overhaul at LB
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Was Howard crying on the sidelines? Dude has been mentally broken. He ain't coming back
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I hope they hang 100, we deserve it.
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Kleiman is all about playing whether we have all walkons or full roster. I’m not sure why but maybe he is one of those diversity breeds success guys.
i agree but we weren't going to win with Howard as QB anyway. the absence of defensive starters made the score worse but didn't change the winner. Howard is true frosh but is also terrible
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Kleiman is all about playing whether we have all walkons or full roster. I’m not sure why but maybe he is one of those diversity breeds success guys.
i agree but we weren't going to win with Howard as QB anyway. the absence of defensive starters made the score worse but didn't change the winner. Howard is true frosh but is also terrible
If they thought Howard was the answer they wouldn’t have gone after Rubely. Obviously Howard is a career backup.
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Was Howard crying on the sidelines? Dude has been mentally broken. He ain't coming back
Ever?
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There is no God.
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I just did a double shot of Bullet Rye and am now chowing down on leftover wedding cake.
This game is disgusting.
Klieman is lucky this season is a complete throwaway to begin with because losing like this to Iowa rough ridin' State is a fireable offense.
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its just 1 game and we have owned ISU for a long time but man the difference in athletes between the 2 teams looks gigantic right now. Klieman is farther away from being successful not getting closer. I know ISU recruits pretty good but not great. Our recruiting has been consistently one of the worst in the country and every now and then it shows
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Klieman has a million extra dollars in his pocket because KU is one-in-a-lifetime bad. Prince wasn't so lucky.
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Klieman has a million extra dollars in his pocket because KU is one-in-a-lifetime bad. Prince wasn't so lucky.
Yes and no. This season could have played out very differently had Covid not entered the picture. If we get our OOC schedule like normal, we're already bowl eligible. Take away the freak hit that took Skylar out for the season, and we're at looking at a legitimate 8-4 regular season.
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Thankful our defense is stout or this could be ugly.
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Thankful our defense is stout or this could be ugly.
Pretty competitive third quarter
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this just in: Fletcher is terrible too
Gawd we are so thin KU doesn't even have to play walk on types anymore. we only beat them because their coaches are idiots.
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Thankful our defense is stout or this could be ugly.
Pretty competitive third quarter
Eh, Iowa State is going through the motions. They could easily score a TD every drive.
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Favorite melt down text message i've gotten during the game.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201121/ed76841726e40e57fb1163ddee821a27.jpg)
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Thankful our defense is stout or this could be ugly.
Pretty competitive third quarter
Eh, Iowa State is going through the motions. They could easily score a TD every drive.
But they didn't
:LynchMob:
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Yes and no. This season could have played out very differently had Covid not entered the picture. If we get our OOC schedule like normal, we're already bowl eligible. Take away the freak hit that took Skylar out for the season, and we're at looking at a legitimate 8-4 regular season.
i'm getting more of a 4-8 vibe.
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That play by Tressel is the worst play I’ve ever seen by a DE. That’s not hyperbole. He took 3 side steps inside, then the QB ran for a touchdown right where he lined up. No one touched Tressel the whole play and he didn’t come with 4 feet of the QB.
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Yes and no. This season could have played out very differently had Covid not entered the picture. If we get our OOC schedule like normal, we're already bowl eligible. Take away the freak hit that took Skylar out for the season, and we're at looking at a legitimate 8-4 regular season.
i'm getting more of a 4-8 vibe.
09/05 – Buffalo W
09/12 – North Dakota W
09/19 – Vanderbilt W
09/26 – at West Virginia L
10/03 – Texas L
10/10 – Kansas W
10/17 – at TCU W
10/29 – at Iowa State L
11/07 – Texas Tech W
11/14 – at Oklahoma W
11/21 – Oklahoma State L
11/28 – at Baylor W
And that's melding our current results. 8-4 is easily in the picture. Next year will tell us how good of a coach Klieman really is. I just have to keep telling myself that this year is total crap.
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Yes and no. This season could have played out very differently had Covid not entered the picture. If we get our OOC schedule like normal, we're already bowl eligible. Take away the freak hit that took Skylar out for the season, and we're at looking at a legitimate 8-4 regular season.
i'm getting more of a 4-8 vibe.
I dont see the osu loss with Skylar (and all other things the same), but i hear what your saying.
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09/05 – Buffalo W
09/12 – North Dakota W
09/19 – Vanderbilt W
09/26 – at West Virginia L
10/03 – Texas L
10/10 – Kansas W
10/17 – at TCU W
10/29 – at Iowa State L
11/07 – Texas Tech W
11/14 – at Oklahoma W
11/21 – Oklahoma State L
11/28 – at Baylor W
change four of the red w's to l's and you'll have it.
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That play by Tressel is the worst play I’ve ever seen by a DE. That’s not hyperbole. He took 3 side steps inside, then the QB ran for a touchdown right where he lined up. No one touched Tressel the whole play and he didn’t come with 4 feet of the QB.
Who?
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Even our punter sucks.
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Losing Thompson was and is a big deal and a big part of the suckiness we see now, I need to let that temper my disgust at least a little.
But it's obvious Rubley needs to be the real deal.
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That play by Tressel is the worst play I’ve ever seen by a DE. That’s not hyperbole. He took 3 side steps inside, then the QB ran for a touchdown right where he lined up. No one touched Tressel the whole play and he didn’t come with 4 feet of the QB.
Who?
Trussell, not Tressel. #40
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That play by Tressel is the worst play I’ve ever seen by a DE. That’s not hyperbole. He took 3 side steps inside, then the QB ran for a touchdown right where he lined up. No one touched Tressel the whole play and he didn’t come with 4 feet of the QB.
Who?
Trussell, not Tressel. #40
I don't know who that is either
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Fake season
:zzz:
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Teams are so damn mean to Elder.
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new drinking game. drink every time ross elder is either run over by a RB or a second late defending a pass. you'd be mumped up in the first quarter of every game. really concerned about the defense next year. we have absolutely NOTHING at certain positions
Best Kashi post ever. Homeboy was always in camera shots just standing there as passes went right over or by him
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Losing Thompson was and is a big deal and a big part of the suckiness we see now, I need to let that temper my disgust at least a little.
But it's obvious Rubley needs to be the real deal.
Thompson needs to come back
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Losing Thompson was and is a big deal and a big part of the suckiness we see now, I need to let that temper my disgust at least a little.
But it's obvious Rubley needs to be the real deal.
Thompson needs to come back
I think he will, but ultimately we have nothing behind Thompson on the current roster. If Rubley isn't a stud, we have shitty times ahead.
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offensive line, just offer every big huge dude you can get
snyder’s success came from it and so did kliemans at ndsu
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Losing Thompson was and is a big deal and a big part of the suckiness we see now, I need to let that temper my disgust at least a little.
But it's obvious Rubley needs to be the real deal.
Thompson needs to come back
I think he will, but ultimately we have nothing behind Thompson on the current roster. If Rubley isn't a stud, we have shitty times ahead.
Howard will be much better next season - a full backup year would do him some good.
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149 yards on 47 plays (3.1 ypp).
In this day and age, that's just so unbelievably poor (regardless of the circumstances).
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Calling my shot......if Rubley isnt the real deal then coach K is fired at end of 22 season
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149 yards on 47 plays (3.1 ypp).
In this day and age, that's just so unbelievably poor (regardless of the circumstances).
Is that for the 1st half?
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Calling my shot......if Rubley isnt the real deal then coach K is fired at end of 22 season
100% no chance unless there's scandal. We'd have to damn near go winless in 21' & '22 for that to even be a possibly.
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Only way Klieman gets fired is if Gene does too
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Only way Klieman gets fired is if Gene does too
Great idea!
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offensive line, just offer every big huge dude you can get
snyder’s success came from it and so did kliemans at ndsu
Most recruits dislike Ck and his staff though. Even when they start out liking him they quickly start to hate him and want to leave.
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offensive line, just offer every big huge dude you can get
snyder’s success came from it and so did kliemans at ndsu
Most recruits dislike Ck and his staff though. Even when they start out liking him they quickly start to hate him and want to leave.
This has me worried.
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offensive line, just offer every big huge dude you can get
snyder’s success came from it and so did kliemans at ndsu
Most recruits dislike Ck and his staff though. Even when they start out liking him they quickly start to hate him and want to leave.
This has me worried.
The recruits they do land have lol'able offer lists. They are copying the snyder strategy of not chasing anyone that good schools want.
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Only way Klieman gets fired is if Gene does too
Which also has zero chance of happening.
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offensive line, just offer every big huge dude you can get
snyder’s success came from it and so did kliemans at ndsu
Most recruits dislike Ck and his staff though. Even when they start out liking him they quickly start to hate him and want to leave.
This has me worried.
The recruits they do land have lol'able offer lists. They are copying the snyder strategy of not chasing anyone that good schools want.
lol, you okay? eff, maybe I don't hate Iowa State as much as I thought I did.
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So you watched that game at WVU and thought out recruiting was on par with our opponents?
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Complaining about our on field talent is pretty silly.
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149 yards on 47 plays (3.1 ypp).
In this day and age, that's just so unbelievably poor (regardless of the circumstances).
Is that for the 1st half?
For additional perspective, even if that was just for a half and you doubled it for a total of just under 300 yards for a game, that average would rank 120th out of 126 D1 teams.
It goes without saying where 147 yards would rank...
A historically poor offensive performance that is so unbelievably bad that it makes the defense giving up 40+ points look pretty good by comparison.
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which offensive players were out due to covid?
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So you watched that game at WVU and thought out recruiting was on par with our opponents?
I think our recruiting needs to improve for sure, that's a hell of a lot different than
The recruits they do land have lol'able offer lists
That's ridiculous
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/krew-jackson-257479#school-interests
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/ozzie-hoffler-251835#school-interests
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/andrew-leingang-260211#school-interests
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/brayden-wood-210894#school-interests
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/rj-garcia-258542#school-interests
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/jake-rubley-216933#school-interests
And this is with 10 more scholarships to give
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Calling my shot......if Rubley isnt the real deal then coach K is fired at end of 22 season
100% no chance unless there's scandal. We'd have to damn near go winless in 21' & '22 for that to even be a possibly.
I'm not sold on this. If we have another bad season next year, even though this year is a bit of a throwaway season, the fans will start to turn on him. Getting shut out by Iowa Freaking State is well below the acceptable standards of our program. It just doesn't happen.
If we lose on out this season then Klieman will be 0-8 against WVU, OSU, Baylor, and Texas. He will have gone 8-0 against TCU, Tech, KU and somehow OU. ISU is the only split.
That's not setting the world on fire and unless we get some talent in across the board, those numbers likely won't hold. Back to back years without bowl appearances will turn up the heat pretty quick.
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akron, buffalo
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Calling my shot......if Rubley isnt the real deal then coach K is fired at end of 22 season
100% no chance unless there's scandal. We'd have to damn near go winless in 21' & '22 for that to even be a possibly.
I'm not sold on this. If we have another bad season next year, even though this year is a bit of a throwaway season, the fans will start to turn on him. Getting shut out by Iowa Freaking State is well below the acceptable standards of our program. It just doesn't happen.
If we lose on out this season then Klieman will be 0-8 against WVU, OSU, Baylor, and Texas. He will have gone 8-0 against TCU, Tech, KU and somehow OU. ISU is the only split.
That's not setting the world on fire and unless we get some talent in across the board, those numbers likely won't hold. Back to back years without bowl appearances will turn up the heat pretty quick.
You said it's a throwaway season then gave the season weight in your analysis. Yeah, fans will start to turn on him if he has another bad year next year, but what does that even mean, some have already turned on him? In your scenario, he'll do a job reset in the AAC or MWC before he gets fired.
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Calling my shot......if Rubley isnt the real deal then coach K is fired at end of 22 season
100% no chance unless there's scandal. We'd have to damn near go winless in 21' & '22 for that to even be a possibly.
I'm not sold on this. If we have another bad season next year, even though this year is a bit of a throwaway season, the fans will start to turn on him. Getting shut out by Iowa Freaking State is well below the acceptable standards of our program. It just doesn't happen.
If we lose on out this season then Klieman will be 0-8 against WVU, OSU, Baylor, and Texas. He will have gone 8-0 against TCU, Tech, KU and somehow OU. ISU is the only split.
That's not setting the world on fire and unless we get some talent in across the board, those numbers likely won't hold. Back to back years without bowl appearances will turn up the heat pretty quick.
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Calling my shot......if Rubley isnt the real deal then coach K is fired at end of 22 season
100% no chance unless there's scandal. We'd have to damn near go winless in 21' & '22 for that to even be a possibly.
I'm not sold on this. If we have another bad season next year, even though this year is a bit of a throwaway season, the fans will start to turn on him. Getting shut out by Iowa Freaking State is well below the acceptable standards of our program. It just doesn't happen.
If we lose on out this season then Klieman will be 0-8 against WVU, OSU, Baylor, and Texas. He will have gone 8-0 against TCU, Tech, KU and somehow OU. ISU is the only split.
That's not setting the world on fire and unless we get some talent in across the board, those numbers likely won't hold. Back to back years without bowl appearances will turn up the heat pretty quick.
You said it's a throwaway season then gave the season weight in your analysis. Yeah, fans will start to turn on him if he has another bad year next year, but what does that even mean, some have already turned on him? In your scenario, he'll do a job reset in the AAC or MWC before he gets fired.
In most people's minds, I think this season still 'counts' to some degree. It will surely count if Kleiman loses out this year and then can't break .500 in 2021 or 2022. Next year looks very scary if Thompson and some of our seniors do not elect to return. We got a preview of what next year looks like against ISU. People say Hughes and Sullivan are subpar LBs, but without them, our defense looked awful yesterday. Yea, we're playing scout team folks in the secondary, but I'm concerned about who comes back after this never-ending rollercoaster of injuries and transfers. Simply put, we have no QB, no WRs, no DTs, no LBs, and a big question mark in the secondary next year if we don't have some folks return.
Kleiman has really rolled the dice on Rubley being the savior of this program. If he isn't an all-conference type of guy in 2022, this ship is going down.
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This season counts. You can't claim the OU win and not the Ark state loss
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This season has no bearing on the trajectory of our program. If Klieman doesn’t have his crap together for the 2022 season then he will be on a hot seat. Most on here don’t really follow recruiting so I get the ignorance but we are getting solid players to fill these classes. We may snag 6 or 7 P5 level players out of Kansas alone for the 2022 class the way things are trending.
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This season has no bearing on the trajectory of our program. If Klieman doesn’t have his crap together for the 2022 season then he will be on a hot seat. Most on here don’t really follow recruiting so I get the ignorance but we are getting solid players to fill these classes. We may snag 6 or 7 P5 level players out of Kansas alone for the 2022 class the way things are trending.
how will he have his crap together next year? he will have the worst QB in the league. The worst WR corp in the league. No depth behind Vaughn at RB. An OL with no legit tackles. All the best players on D will have graduated with little if any talent behind them.
next year looks significantly worse than this year
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This season has no bearing on the trajectory of our program. If Klieman doesn’t have his crap together for the 2022 season then he will be on a hot seat. Most on here don’t really follow recruiting so I get the ignorance but we are getting solid players to fill these classes. We may snag 6 or 7 P5 level players out of Kansas alone for the 2022 class the way things are trending.
how will he have his crap together next year? he will have the worst QB in the league. The worst WR corp in the league. No depth behind Vaughn at RB. An OL with no legit tackles. All the best players on D will have graduated with little if any talent behind them.
next year looks significantly worse than this year
We can start the can his ass chants.
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This season has no bearing on the trajectory of our program. If Klieman doesn’t have his crap together for the 2022 season then he will be on a hot seat. Most on here don’t really follow recruiting so I get the ignorance but we are getting solid players to fill these classes. We may snag 6 or 7 P5 level players out of Kansas alone for the 2022 class the way things are trending.
how will he have his crap together next year? he will have the worst QB in the league. The worst WR corp in the league. No depth behind Vaughn at RB. An OL with no legit tackles. All the best players on D will have graduated with little if any talent behind them.
next year looks significantly worse than this year
Losing just one OL from the two deep is a reason for optimism (as bad as they have been)
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This season has no bearing on the trajectory of our program. If Klieman doesn’t have his crap together for the 2022 season then he will be on a hot seat. Most on here don’t really follow recruiting so I get the ignorance but we are getting solid players to fill these classes. We may snag 6 or 7 P5 level players out of Kansas alone for the 2022 class the way things are trending.
how will he have his crap together next year? he will have the worst QB in the league. The worst WR corp in the league. No depth behind Vaughn at RB. An OL with no legit tackles. All the best players on D will have graduated with little if any talent behind them.
next year looks significantly worse than this year
I don’t agree with much of what you said but also I said 2022 not 2021. Willis and Mitchum are legit tackles and I expect one or both of them to start next year. It frees up Beebe to be 100% interior and Talor Warner and Poitier along with Rivas and Delforge will be a great group along the interior. I think Duffie will still have to play on the edge one more year. Ervin showed a lot of promise last year and Vaughn and Mozee will be solid too. They really like the young TE’s and depending on if Wheeler can ever not be injured he is good too. WR I think Garber will break out next year like EBD did this year, he just needs on more spring to get it all out together. A lot riding on Rubley being worth a crap because I don’t have a great answer at QB.
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I still wouldn't be surprised if Sky returns for a year but Rubley needs to be a stud longterm. I'm not surprised that Howard sucks as he's a true freshman, but I am concerned that he hasn't improved. I also haven't seen any flashes of a high upside from Howard.
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I’m pinning my hopes on Rubley, no negative consequences.
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The Mole knows how to recruit, and keep talent.
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The Mole knows how to recruit, and keep talent.
Based on what? NDSU is a different game than a P5 school. Again, my jury is still out, but there's cause for concern with the way this season has imploded.
This season has no bearing on the trajectory of our program. If Klieman doesn’t have his crap together for the 2022 season then he will be on a hot seat. Most on here don’t really follow recruiting so I get the ignorance but we are getting solid players to fill these classes. We may snag 6 or 7 P5 level players out of Kansas alone for the 2022 class the way things are trending.
Try the 2021 season. If next season looks a lot like the second half of this season, especially last Saturday where we weren't even competitive, then Gene is going to be feeling a lot of pressure to not allow him a 4th season.
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He just gave him an extension, surely you aren’t being serious.
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I do wonder (if Skylar doesn't return) if they look at the transfer portal for a senior QB.
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He just gave him an extension, surely you aren’t being serious.
These people are out of their goddamned minds.
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I do wonder (if Skylar doesn't return) if they look at the transfer portal for a senior QB.
Why would they need to do that? May as well cut Lewis and Howard if you're going to do that.
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How is everyone feeling about Farmageddon 2023? I think if the Cats can put up 17 point they will win. I don't have any other HFBIQ thoughts to offer.
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I feel like the weather is going to suck and I want to sell my tickets.
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How is everyone feeling about Farmageddon 2023? I think if the Cats can put up 17 point they will win. I don't have any other HFBIQ thoughts to offer.
They're def a salty team, but we also kick major ass at home, I think we win by 14+
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ugly 34-17 win
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how bad exactly is the weather going to suck my ass?
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Snowmageddon
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how bad exactly is the weather going to suck my ass?
It's going to be awful. Drink lots and bundle up
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Snowmageddon
deathstorm-ish
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Is the Clones "Corn better th an wheat"the lamest meme in college sports?
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how bad exactly is the weather going to suck my ass?
Projected high lower 40s, slight chance of rain/snow, partly cloudy. Nice day for hunting, I suppose, if you're into that.
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I feel like the weather is going to suck and I want to sell my tickets am glad I didn't buy tickets and will be watching from my couch.
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I feel like the weather is going to suck ajusnd I want to sell my tickets am glad I didn't buy tickets and will be watching from my couch.
Fine, just don't say 20 years from now when Howard retires from a HOF NFL careeer that you were in the BSFS stands when he threw for five tds to set single-season and game marks in a cakewalk of the Clones.
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It just doesn't seem to have the juice this year. Hope we aren't flat from the sunflower showdown
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well I am going and so are some of my bros and their kids and my kids also so most of you can just suck it ok? :lynchmob:
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2pt win by whatever lol means they provide at the very end to lose it
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2pt win by whatever lol means they provide at the very end to lose it
iowa state ties it up and is kicking the PAT for the win, only to be blocked and returned for two
or
game is tied and isu lines up for a game winning field goal but the snap is too high. there is a gaggle of players trying to secure the ball but it keeps getting closer to the opposite endzone. the kicker panics and in an attempt to prevent a wildcat touchdown, he kicks the ball through the endzone
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I think we are just going to whip their ass from start to finish this time honestly
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I think we are just going to whip their ass from start to finish this time honestly
I think it builds to that point, it'll be close-ish (like 17-10, well within reach) through the middle of the second quarter, then we get a big play to take it into half 24-10. Then we come out and put it enough away that by the 4th it's as ass whipping.
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Snow game?!
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We're tied at half but should be up by 10-14, then we win by 17. Let's call it 13-30.
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https://twitter.com/glasshalfute/status/1727715295307943942
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GUYS LETS rough ridin' GOOOOOOOO
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Let's get this, Cats.
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Wanna win, and then win the bowl game. Back to back 10 win seasons would be nice
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well I am going and so are some of my bros and their kids and my kids also so most of you can just suck it ok? :lynchmob:
Stone you still got your stones or have they frozen off (your stones, that is)?
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LFG
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JFC
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Yikes
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We better get that TD back or else it'll be a long day
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Hey they can tackle on a simple draw play
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Hopefully they will have to run more than 1 play from scrimmage this time!
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Going to be a million fumbles tonight
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Will take
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Let’s go
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Man that was close to a Will Howard anytime TD
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FGs are off the table tonight?
Never mind.
Tom
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Well, wish that was a better 3rd down call but I think we found our footing
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You can throw out the records for Farmageddon
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crap sucks, going to bed
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snowy conditions play to Iowa State's strengths
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Well, wish that was a better 3rd down call but I think we found our footing
I'm not a big fan of let's pitch it in the driving snow.
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Not having any idea where the first down marker is makes watching this game a lot more interesting
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Their unis are camo with the field. We shoulda worn the snowman kits
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Well, wish that was a better 3rd down call but I think we found our footing
I'm not a big fan of let's pitch it in the driving snow.
Right, an short side option at that. Down the middle or a quick flat would've been best
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Not having any idea where the first down marker is makes watching this game a lot more interesting
definitley, it's weird having no idea where they are on the field
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We gotta punch it in eventually, but hey, doing better.
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Give me Avery or give me death
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crap sucks, going to bed
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jfc, you're old
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Yeah this is one game where I would like to just run the crap out of Avery (although Will threw it pretty well for most of that last drive)
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wtf
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How the eff do you not tackle him in the backfield
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Guys we kind of suck at tackling
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
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Yeah this is one game where I would like to just run the crap out of Avery (although Will threw it pretty well for most of that last drive)
That's a great idea.
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I would prefer if we tackled that dude
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Are we going to give up 300 yard rushing to single player? Stay tuned to find out.
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
10 wins is still nice.
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So they're top 2 RB said were out and stayed in Ames?
Tom
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
10 wins is still nice.
It's a nice but meaningless. And I still think we'll win
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
10 wins is still nice.
It's a nice but meaningless. And I still think we'll win
It is not meaningless. What loser talk
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Finally
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Touch Down Cats
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
10 wins is still nice.
It's a nice but meaningless. And I still think we'll win
It is not meaningless. What loser talk
It's meaningless because the weather is too weird to really glean anything about the quality of coaching or talent. Like no one gameplans or builds a roster for playing in 6 inches of snow
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So they're top 2 RB said were out and stayed in Ames?
Tom
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I think they just made a change at RB and it's not hard to see why
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
10 wins is still nice.
beating Iowa State is very nice
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
10 wins is still nice.
It's a nice but meaningless. And I still think we'll win
It is not meaningless. What loser talk
It's meaningless because the weather is too weird to really glean anything about the quality of coaching or talent. Like no one gameplans or builds a roster for playing in 6 inches of snow
Man a win is a win, it's not meaningless if you win
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This game matters. Need O-line to sack up if we are insistent on Howard. Would also like to see our defense not suck ass.
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Oh lord
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Rusty looking down his brow from his lofty NYC perch at us midwesterners caring about farmageddon.
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Thank you Thank you
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Ok, that was better
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Really glad they didn’t had the ball to sama on 3rd and 27 that would have been disastrous
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So they're top 2 RB said were out and stayed in Ames?
Tom
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I think they just made a change at RB and it's not hard to see why
#24 looks like the second coming of Adrian Peterson.
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So they're top 2 RB said were out and stayed in Ames?
Tom
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I think they just made a change at RB and it's not hard to see why
#24 looks like the second coming of Adrian Peterson.
6 rushes for 192 yards! :horrorsurprise:
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
10 wins is still nice.
It's a nice but meaningless. And I still think we'll win
It is not meaningless. What loser talk
It's meaningless because the weather is too weird to really glean anything about the quality of coaching or talent. Like no one gameplans or builds a roster for playing in 6 inches of snow
Man a win is a win, it's not meaningless if you win
Yes it's really only meaningless if you lose
:gocho:
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Well, that was disappointing. Turnover would be nice
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Not sure how we win this game with Howard and shitty play calling. Need O-line and Giddens to get it going and.the D to just not suck ass
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
10 wins is still nice.
It's a nice but meaningless. And I still think we'll win
number 1, no. number 2, some of us had faith and put futures bets in the preseason for the cats to get over 8.5 regular season wins.
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Sigle should have seven interceptions this year
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
10 wins is still nice.
It's a nice but meaningless. And I still think we'll win
number 1, no. number 2, some of us had faith and put futures bets in the preseason for the cats to get over 8.5 regular season wins.
Rusty...
:gocho:
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Sigle should have seven interceptions this year
That was tough, but would've been huge
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Let's go take the lead
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Points and TD out of half
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Sigh
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Ok i guess a three and out and a muff punt recovery will work
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Hahahahahaha
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I like how since it's snowing you can tackle receivers
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Call the ambulance
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Sigh
scheming with the 30 yard punt
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
10 wins is still nice.
It's a nice but meaningless. And I still think we'll win
number 1, no. number 2, some of us had faith and put futures bets in the preseason for the cats to get over 8.5 regular season wins.
Rusty...
:gocho:
I don't know what that means, but I'm assuming it's a compliment. thank you.
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Has anyone else noticed how much handsomer our players are?
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That's how this game is going to go, they do barely nothing, big play, we do everything, no TD
Meaningless weird game
10 wins is still nice.
It's a nice but meaningless. And I still think we'll win
number 1, no. number 2, some of us had faith and put futures bets in the preseason for the cats to get over 8.5 regular season wins.
Rusty...
:gocho:
I don't know what that means, but I'm assuming it's a compliment. thank you.
This is a wonderful assumption!
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We need Will to be able to run when they drop back 8
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Touch Down Cats
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Who gets the ball to start the second half?
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hey kstate quarterback. run the damned ball.
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Who gets the ball to start the second half?
We do
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cats, tho.
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Props to Tenant's first half performance in these conditions
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Who gets the ball to start the second half?
We do
:gocho:
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Props to Tenant's first half performance in these conditions
Absolutely, he scares me so for him to hit all FGs and XPs is big
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Giddens is a 1,000 yard rusher.
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Clones better make Sama their feature back this spring or he gonna ditch Ames like an ugly girlfriend.
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Let's go get seven points and put some distance between us and the mold birds.
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Sama has 208 total yards. Iowa State has 199 as a team.
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I see this injury and think that a lot of these kids could get hurt in this snow. ISU should forfeit for the good of the kids.
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Gotta beat the Clones and Howard this game. That said, I think we can do it
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Ugh so close
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Punt to the 12 is ok
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Big plays, again, sigh
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Untouched
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all their td's were caused by snow
:zzz:
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Maybe try to prevent the BIG play. JFC
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all their td's were caused by snow
:zzz:
yup, three 70+ yard touchdown plays . . . this game is stupid
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Okay Kansas Beef, if you are such an elite unit, it is time to take over this game…
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I would like a snow touchdown or three, please and thank you.
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We have a bad habit of running into people right in front of us
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Time for the Cats to have a big play
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Okay Kansas Beef, if you are such an elite unit, it is time to take over this game…
Yup, if you're going to say it all season now is the time
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i don't like the way we give up big plays that go for touchdowns.
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Damn Howard is hard to watch but Sinnot is gonna save his boy
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Sinnot!!!
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I see this injury and think that a lot of these kids could get hurt in this snow. ISU should forfeit for the good of the kids.
How many guys are you willing to sacrifice, whoever ISU's coach is? They're just kids!
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TD and we get the 2? :ksu:
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TD and we get the 2? :ksu:
Hell yeah we did
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Touch Down Cats
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Weird game. Make'm punt.
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Seriously tackle wtf
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LMAO snow tds only
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LMAO snow tds only
How do we get some of these beautiful beautiful snow tds?
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i don't like the way we give up big plays that go for touchdowns.
it just seems like a dumb plan, i dunno.
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LMAO snow tds only
How do we get some of these beautiful beautiful snow tds?
I'm sure eventually
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Are we going to give up 300 yard rushing to single player? Stay tuned to find out.
268 with 5:00 left in the third quarter :horrorsurprise: :facepalm:
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If Matt Campbell doesn't order his OC to just run that same run play up the middle every down he's an idiot. We can't and won't stop it.
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:bang:
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Interesting push from behind tackling technique
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We have to be winning ToP by like a half hour
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If we won't let Avery play QB, can we put him at safety? Our slowness is lol
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Iowa State had 9 rushing yards against Texas :Ugh:
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LMAO snow tds only
How do we get some of these beautiful beautiful snow tds?
I'm sure eventually
Now would be great.
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LMAO snow tds only
How do we get some of these beautiful beautiful snow tds?
I'm sure eventually
We got a couple snow turnovers
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LMAO snow tds only
How do we get some of these beautiful beautiful snow tds?
I'm sure eventually
We got a couple snow turnovers
I'll take both. I'm greedy af
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4 Quarters, LFG
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jayce is such a super stud
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kstate should go on every fourth down. what's the downside, that isu scores on a 40 yard play instead of an 80 yard play? who gives a crap.
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jayce is such a super stud
Maybe he can play safety, too.
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kstate should go on every fourth down. what's the downside, that isu scores on a 40 yard play instead of an 80 yard play? who gives a crap.
I don’t believe isu has snapped the ball from the plus side of the 50 yd line
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I agree with michigancat that we should get a snow touchdown now.
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Can't help but think if Campbell would have moved Sama up from third team before the BYU game, Clones would be playing in Dallas next week.
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Another crazy stat: Cats have had the ball for 34 minutes . . . at the start of the fourth quarter
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Touch Down Cats
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Can't help but think if Campbell would have moved Sama up from third team before the BYU game, Clones would be playing in Dallas next week.
Only if all their games had snow. They'd have 13 yards of offense without snow.
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Just win
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Pick them off, please
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kstate should go on every fourth down. what's the downside, that isu scores on a 40 yard play instead of an 80 yard play? who gives a crap.
I don’t believe isu has snapped the ball from the plus side of the 50 yd line
Apparently they have had one lol
https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1728618746179113131
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Just the kind of terrible flag that will make this victory sweeter. Legit gripe for ISU on that PI call. Granted, they’ve held/PI’d on basically every throw we’ve made.
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Big plays again
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We're addicted to giving up huge plays
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eff mcfuck
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You can't make this crap up
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I'm not sure what Klanderman's game plan was, but he needs to rethink his life choices.
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Who would have ever thought it would be a shootout in half a foot of snow?
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Score, let's go
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Who would have ever thought it would be a shootout in half a foot of snow?
Snow like this just makes it unpredictable and silly!
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Send the punt team back to the locker room. We have to go for it every fourth down now.
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Those stats are insane.
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We blinked.
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Well let's pray for another muff I guess
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also eff
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Our whole coaching staff should return their pay for this week.
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Our whole coaching staff should return their pay for this week.
LOL settle down
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Turnover time
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I'm trying to conjure up ideas on how ISU Charlie Browns this. Should be fun to find out.
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This game would be awesome if I didn't care who won
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I'm trying to conjure up ideas on how ISU Charlie Browns this. Should be fun to find out.
That will make it all worth it.
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Guess we are choosing to play the field position game. Smart
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The flukiest thing of the entire night will be if Iowa State doesn't have some kind of major screw up in the 4th quarter.
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:curse:Blumer is so meh.
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What's the story with the back of those cyclone helmets
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2nd and 15.. They can't possibly overcome that.
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LMAO
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JFC
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This is Stevedave's fault for going to bed.
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are you rough ridin' kidding me :facepalm:
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The only thing I can think of is we couldn't tell where the OB lines was
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Worst defense ever
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The only thing I can think of is we couldn't tell where the OB lines was
All snow TDs
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Another untouched 50+ yard touchdown
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i don't understand how that was possible.
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:'bye cruel world: :'bye cruel world: :'bye cruel world:
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Clown show.
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I think maybe we are point shaving.
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The only thing I can think of is we couldn't tell where the OB lines was
All snow TDs
Bitch at this point it's own own rough ridin' fault
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Worst defense ever
just crazy conditions
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The only thing I can think of is we couldn't tell where the OB lines was
All snow TDs
Why can't we get these fancy snow TDs???
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Worst defense ever
just crazy conditions
Our incompetence, JFC
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The only thing I can think of is we couldn't tell where the OB lines was
All snow TDs
Why can't we get these fancy snow TDs???
maybe this drive :dunno:
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The only thing I can think of is we couldn't tell where the OB lines was
All snow TDs
Why can't we get these fancy snow TDs???
maybe this drive :dunno:
Yeah, they get 5. We get lol
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The only thing I can think of is we couldn't tell where the OB lines was
All snow TDs
Why can't we get these fancy snow TDs???
Hasn't happened yet
maybe this drive :dunno:
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I guess it's our turn to Charlie Brown
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Deplorable
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Fitting end to an unremarkable season
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'meaningless game' :buh-bye:
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Welp.
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Losing to Matt Campbell should be a fine
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I turned it off. I can't take the absurdity.
It's like our offense is normal (but really solid) and theirs is my big brother against me in Madden the 1st time I touched a video game controller. WTAF.
I think Iowa State prepared all week at Breckenridge or something...or is wearing special cleats no one else has. Eff me.
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Welp. We'll always have Nov. 18
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The only thing I can think of is we couldn't tell where the OB lines was
All snow TDs
Why can't we get these fancy snow TDs???
Bad luck! :dunno:
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Welp
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They don't know how to operate inside our 50
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If we win this game....
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Snow punt
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Can we ban this "michigancat" person? MODS??
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Can Howard redeem himself???????
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Can we ban this "michigancat" person? MODS??
I'm just loving life and will love the cats no matter what happens tonight
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They don't know how to operate inside our 50
So if we get to OT?
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MODS????
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The grounds crew should all be fired. The amount of snow on this field is utterly ridiculous.
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The grounds crew should all be fired. The amount of snow on this field is utterly ridiculous.
YES
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Game over 0 snow TD's for us
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LMAO the flag
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Lol
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eff
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How many times has ISU been called for PI on uncatchable balls? 2? 3? I get that we're the Big 12's new crown jewel, but this is kind of embarrassing.
I decided to watch the offense try to tie this up or win. I can't watch the D keystone cop out there.
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Snow flag
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God dammit
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eff shits
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I put the blame 100% on stevedave
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Real-time Pete ChatGPT would have been perfect for this game/thread.
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what an unsatisfying game to watch.
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eff howard and eff Kliegoober for lack of recruiting any speed in the secondary
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Got jinxed by IPA, shame.
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Defense was complete ass
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well it was a down year and we went 8-4, and isu had a good year and went 7-5
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Feels bad man
Horrible loss to a horrible team
Defense was atrocious
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well it was a down year and we went 8-4, and isu had a good year and went 7-5
This game meant a ton to Matt Campbell
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Maybe start throwing downfield on second down next time, Klein. 1-4 this year in games decided by one score.
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Disappointing, forgettable season.
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Feels bad man
Horrible loss to a horrible team
Defense was atrocious
I agree. stevedave should feel ashamed for making us lose.
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well it was a down year and we went 8-4, and isu had a good year and went 7-5
This game meant a ton to Matt Campbell
might've saved his job, but still probably keeps it with 6-6.
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Chris Kllllienman loses to Iowa State at home again
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What a ridiculous game. Big 12 offices must be pretty happy about the snowstorm.
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By definition, a season cannot be successful if you lose to Iowa State.
Sad to see it end this way. Goodbye Will.
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Football is stupid
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By definition, a season cannot be successful if you lose to Iowa State.
Sad to see it end this way. Goodbye Will.
Sadly this will be his legacy. That and the Big 12 title. But a lot of this.
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We need more dynamic skill players on offense (tho it's absurd to point to the offense in this loss).
My bro is insisting our D had money on the outcome. Probably took the over, too.
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But this was certainly not Will's fault. The defense is 100% to blame. They were the worst I've seen in a very long time.
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But this was certainly not Will's fault. The defense is 100% to blame. They were the worst I've seen in a very long time.
Very Prince like.
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But this was certainly not Will's fault. The defense is 100% to blame. They were the worst I've seen in a very long time.
I agree with you that this is stevedave's fault.
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But this was certainly not Will's fault. The defense is 100% to blame. They were the worst I've seen in a very long time.
I think the last time our defense was so pathetic was that game at Fresno state back in like 06 or 07
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I think Rusty is right, this game really was an anomaly with the snow. It was a black swan event.
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Has there ever been a season with all of our losses being as maddening/befuddling as this one?
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The only things I think you can take away from this game is a lack of discipline on D and Howard struggling to go through progressions.
If there wasn’t a foot of snow on the field, ISU wouldn’t have been able to manage 42 points despite having only like 5 plays in KSU territory.
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2002
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Mods some real people, not pussies like Michigancat have to deal with this. But pussies like him talk about how they can park like a bitch not do anything like a real person
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Mods some real people, not pussies like Michigancat have to deal with this. But pussies like him talk about how they can park like a bitch not do anything like a real person
I don't even think he's really from michgan.
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One of the best Cat teams of all time. But you're right the CU and UT losses were def excruciating.
That team would have beaten OSU, Mizzou and ISU by 40 tho.
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I think Rusty is right, this game really was an anomaly with the snow. It was a black swan event.
Yes. Hence the Pete chatGPT reference
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Football is cancelled
Nobody watch it again for the year of the year
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Have a buddy going irate in a group text saying CK (Klieman or Klein) is heading to Oregon St.
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Have a buddy going irate in a group text saying CK (Klieman or Klein) is heading to Oregon St.
LMAO settle down, Cats fans
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Football is cancelled
Nobody watch it again for the year of the year
Tang Time!
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In the end, an 8-4 team lost a close one in the snow to a 7-5 team.
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Campbell really chomps on that Winterfresh gum
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Mods some real people, not pussies like Michigancat have to deal with this. But pussies like him talk about how they can park like a bitch not do anything like a real person
I don't even think he's really from michgan.
That bitch is not from there. He's 10 ply soft thinking he understands but he's removed from it all. Then he'll be all sorry bruh and showoff how he park within 5" of a car and this blog will go wild even though any simple Kansas bruh can do that
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Have a night, Havs!
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I think this bowl season will be fun, and I’m excited for next year’s Cats. This game just felt about as meaningful as a NFL preseason game without any Big 12 title implications and the crazy conditions.
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Lots of zeal ITT
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I'm just going to assume cfnhandyman was at the game and/or is a 750 deep into the fireball tonight
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Rusty do u even militia bro
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So they're top 2 RB said were out and stayed in Ames?
Tom
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They said they entered the portal. That's why they were making all the portal jokes about ISU players.
I think they just made a change at RB and it's not hard to see why
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I'm just going to assume cfnhandyman was at the game and/or is a 750 deep into the fireball tonight
Definitely both
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That game was pretty fun in a weird and also slightly masochistic way. Like a fun house with a kick in the nuts at the end.
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No. Only wins are fun.
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About time we get angry
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About time we get angry
Bro. I don't even know how to talk to you.
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I just kicked my dog!! :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
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:lynchmob:
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Ok, dumbassery on pause for a bit.
Anyone else notice Will seemed unhinged for much of the game?
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Ok, dumbassery on pause for a bit.
Anyone else notice Will seemed unhinged for much of the game?
He was losing to iowa state. totally fair play to lose your crap.
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Ok, dumbassery on pause for a bit.
Anyone else notice Will seemed unhinged for much of the game?
He was losing to iowa state. totally fair play to lose your crap.
He wanted to hit krusty in his $!#*
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Ok, dumbassery on pause for a bit.
Anyone else notice Will seemed unhinged for much of the game?
This game summed up Will Howard outside of 2022 which was some ridiculous anomaly which we will still all respect him for.....
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I think he was just frustrated with himself. Likely his last game at the Bill and he missed some big throws.
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In a way it was the perfect ending to this dumb season.
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14 yards per play for one of the worst offenses in the Big 12.
They had 10 first downs in this game - 6 of which were on TDs. We scored 35 points and lost to a team that had 4 non TD first downs. I'd be shocked if that's ever happened in NCAA history.
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I think he was just frustrated with himself. Likely his last game at the Bill and he missed some big throws.
True. Totally understandable.
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They had our defensive calls
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Can we ban this "michigancat" person? MODS??
I'm just loving life and will love the cats no matter what happens tonight
True fan... :thumbs:
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A very kstatey loss. Our head coach wore a face mask for some reason but the took it off later and we continually wouldn’t tackle as if we were absolutely gambling on iowa state. Every thing kstate does when it loses under hammy is so weird. It’s literally a “wtf are we even doing”
But when we win they are so good.
Reality is, Kleiman and his staff of non-recruiting weirdos are here forever so love them. I guess. Or don’t. They are super mediocre so there is no right answer.
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I think he was just frustrated with himself. Likely his last game at the Bill and he missed some big throws.
True. Totally understandable.
I also think some of his passes were missed due to receivers being out of position. Of course, some the loss of position at times was caused by uncalled PIs, which I could see why Howard was frustrated.
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rarely see a qb lose his crap like that. he's a very good quarterback and hard to complain about a top 15 scoring offense or whatever it is. but he's probably very emotional, which could explain the inconsistencies he's had. and not very cool in the clutch as he couldn't make stuff happen in the 4 losses (although did come through against ku).
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HE looked pretty good in the second half of the Texass game. I think some of the blame and credit goes to CK.
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Mods some real people, not pussies like Michigancat have to deal with this. But pussies like him talk about how they can park like a bitch not do anything like a real person
I don't even think he's really from michgan.
That bitch is not from there. He's 10 ply soft thinking he understands but he's removed from it all. Then he'll be all sorry bruh and showoff how he park within 5" of a car and this blog will go wild even though any simple Kansas bruh can do that
Dang
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14 yards per play for one of the worst offenses in the Big 12.
They had 10 first downs in this game - 6 of which were on TDs. We scored 35 points and lost to a team that had 4 non TD first downs. I'd be shocked if that's ever happened in NCAA history.
Did you see where Iowa State had like 4 tds of 70+ yards in their previous 50 games? Like just unreal weirdness - we've also seen enough from our D this year to know it was completely bonkers and you just go "welp that was weird" and move on.
And also wonder why we couldn't get that snow off the field
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Got to be one of these on campus? Maybe the timing of the snow prevented cleaning pregame.
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Got to be one of these on campus? Maybe the timing of the snow prevented cleaning pregame.
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They showed something like that being used during the broadcast but I'm guessing it was on a sidewalk. It's possible those brushes mess up the turf I guess
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They had our defensive signals. So did ku.
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Mods some real people, not pussies like Michigancat have to deal with this. But pussies like him talk about how they can park like a bitch not do anything like a real person
I don't even think he's really from michgan.
That bitch is not from there. He's 10 ply soft thinking he understands but he's removed from it all. Then he'll be all sorry bruh and showoff how he park within 5" of a car and this blog will go wild even though any simple Kansas bruh can do that
Dang
wtf?
Not even going to go back and read this meltdown
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Those conditions where abhorrent every unit handled it well other than our defense, worst tackling I've seen in some time. The secondary seemed oddly tentative to make tackles, weird given it was a strength all year long.
Sorry if this game hurt your feelings. It was a fun game, what sports and rivalries are all about, I'm glad I went and sat through the whole thing, not glad I drove through the shitty weather though, thought I was gonna die. Also gonna suck too have to hear Iowa State fans talk about this for the next year. That's the trade-off for being a sports fan.
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Not sure I personally know any ISU fans, but if I had any try to trash talk me I would just congratulate them on one of their most successful seasons under Campbell.
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They had our defensive signals. So did ku.
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That sounds plausible. Our defense was out of position on their big plays, and they had a lot of big plays. Have never even heard of 4 rushing TD's of 70+ yards in a game, much less being accompanied by two long passing TD's. Something was way wrong with that game, I just attributed it to messy defensive play-calling and use of lower string DB's. Maybe you're right.
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They had our defensive signals. So did ku.
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That sounds plausible. Our defense was out of position on their big plays, and they had a lot of big plays. Have never even heard of 4 rushing TD's of 70+ yards in a game, much less being accompanied by two long passing TD's. Something was way wrong with that game, I just attributed it to messy defensive play-calling and use of lower string DB's. Maybe you're right.
It's not plausible and we weren't out of position. We make defense audibles from the formation, they weren't changing our changes.
On the game winning play, we had 5 defenders on two offensive players along with the sideline as a 6th defender. The Iowa State wide receiver blocked two defenders, Noel beat the other three and stayed in bounds. We had multiple plays where we needed a defender to make a one-on-one play and we didn't do it.
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wonder how far we were from kRusty getting called the n-word last night
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I did not watch any of this game so the kRusty drama was quite the surprise to see in the morning.
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None of that was real drama
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You're not real
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That was the closest thing I've seen to some kickball in a hot minute
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You're not real
Maybe so maybe not.
But my love is.
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You can’t just roll out the motorized brushes and plows on a FieldTurf field. It’s artificial grass, not short pile carpet posing as “turf”.
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We had multiple plays where we needed a defender to make a one-on-one play and we didn't do it.
These ono-on-one plays were in the secondary. Defenses are set up to prevent the necessity of one-on-one plays in the secondary. Yeah, the guy that got the last touchdown was not in a one-on-one situation, he did make a hell of a play. I get your point that Iowa State made plays, but it's baffling that they had so many big plays of 50+ yards going for touchdowns (wasn't all their touchdowns on 50+ yard plays, or close to it?). I've never seen that in ANY game, much less a K-State game where the Cats couldn't put a stop to big plays. Something was goofy. You're welcome to claim that Iowa State just played that exceptionally well, I just think there's more to it than that.
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Something was goofy. You're welcome to claim that Iowa State just played that exceptionally well, I just think there's more to it than that.
There were 8 inches of snow! Made it extra goofy!
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I kept thinking about that game where we didn't bring the longer cleats with us. Which game was that?
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I kept thinking about that game where we didn't bring the longer cleats with us. Which game was that?
I think that was ku
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I kept thinking about that game where we didn't bring the longer cleats with us. Which game was that?
Ron Prince Texas Bowl versus Rutgers
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We had multiple plays where we needed a defender to make a one-on-one play and we didn't do it.
These ono-on-one plays were in the secondary.
Nope. The two Noel TD catches, yeah, he's a receiver. On all three Sama runs there was a missed tackle in the backfield. The first one we walked up Kobe Savage in run support, he was one on one with Sama right on the line and he whiffed. There was no safety back so once he didn't even slow Sama down, he was gone. The second long run Sama broke two tackles in the backfield from both Mott and Romaine. The third touchdown he was one on one with #myguy Austin Moore.
https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/iowa-state-cyclones-vs-kansas-state-wildcats-nov-25-2023-game-boxscore-39343
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I kept thinking about that game where we didn't bring the longer cleats with us. Which game was that?
Their defense had the same issues, it's why neither team had anything close to resembling a pass rush. The difference was two things. 1. Noel was fast enough to get away from our receivers. Our receivers are prone to getting slowed down by jersey pulls because we're to small and not fast enough. 2. They are much better tacklers than we are. It's why we constantly had long drives, they really couldn't stop us but they were great at not letting 4 yard gains become 70 yard touchdowns. There wasn't a shoe in the world that was going to help any defense in those conditions. That snow was crazy deep but there was also ice on the turf under the snow.
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I kept thinking about that game where we didn't bring the longer cleats with us. Which game was that?
That was KU at ... Iowa State. Forgot to bring our snow cleats.
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it was the snow. i don't know exactly what about the snow mumped us up so much, but i'm confident (for no good reason) that the game is completely different without snow. which is stupid and not a valid excuse. what a hilarious game.
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I kept thinking about that game where we didn't bring the longer cleats with us. Which game was that?
Something during the Ron Prince Love Sweepstakes years. Thinking maybe the Texas bowl vs Syracuse, but that was in NRG. Maybe Rutgers in the Pinstripe, or at Louisville.
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I kept thinking about that game where we didn't bring the longer cleats with us. Which game was that?
Something during the Ron Prince Love Sweepstakes years. Thinking maybe the Texas bowl vs Syracuse, but that was in NRG. Maybe Rutgers in the Pinstripe, or at Louisville.
as tdaver said it was definitely the Texas Bowl vs. Rutgers. I think Prince blamed the equipment team after the game?
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yes, Shorty was the fall guy iirc
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it was the snow. i don't know exactly what about the snow mumped us up so much, but i'm confident (for no good reason) that the game is completely different without snow. which is stupid and not a valid excuse. what a hilarious game.
I think you have good reason to think it would have been completely different when you consider going into that game we had given up a total of 4 70+ yard plays since 2020. Giving up 4 in a game plus a 60 yarder is rough ridin' wild
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I think it was the worst single game, play for play performance in the history of K-State from a PPP/YPP perspective. ~1.2 PPP and ~14 YPP is unreal.
Usually, you never seen those kinds of numbers for an entire game because if a team is hitting those numbers at any point, then there's usually garbage time and pulled starters involved that will bring the numbers back to earth. But that continuing over the course of the entire game (because, in part, our offense kept up and we won the turnover battle) is astonishing. That we only lost by one score while giving up 1.2 ppp is insane -- that may be the first time in FBS history that's happened.
I wonder when was the last time any team gave up 1.2 ppp and 14 ypp.
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We had multiple plays where we needed a defender to make a one-on-one play and we didn't do it.
These ono-on-one plays were in the secondary. Defenses are set up to prevent the necessity of one-on-one plays in the secondary. Yeah, the guy that got the last touchdown was not in a one-on-one situation, he did make a hell of a play. I get your point that Iowa State made plays, but it's baffling that they had so many big plays of 50+ yards going for touchdowns (wasn't all their touchdowns on 50+ yard plays, or close to it?). I've never seen that in ANY game, much less a K-State game where the Cats couldn't put a stop to big plays. Something was goofy. You're welcome to claim that Iowa State just played that exceptionally well, I just think there's more to it than that.
What was up with the play where it looked like our defender was playing two hand touch with Sama and then fell to the turf after incorrectly calculating that he could knock Sama down with just a firm shove? Some sort of weird equal and opposite reaction thing going on. Just a very, very weird game for the defense. Also, the offense would run crappy plays on first and second down and then we would miraculously convert 3rd/4th down and long. Seems like it happened a lot. One of the weirdest Cat football games I've ever watched. Up there with 2010 aTm in terms of weird, unexpected things happening.
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We had multiple plays where we needed a defender to make a one-on-one play and we didn't do it.
These ono-on-one plays were in the secondary. Defenses are set up to prevent the necessity of one-on-one plays in the secondary. Yeah, the guy that got the last touchdown was not in a one-on-one situation, he did make a hell of a play. I get your point that Iowa State made plays, but it's baffling that they had so many big plays of 50+ yards going for touchdowns (wasn't all their touchdowns on 50+ yard plays, or close to it?). I've never seen that in ANY game, much less a K-State game where the Cats couldn't put a stop to big plays. Something was goofy. You're welcome to claim that Iowa State just played that exceptionally well, I just think there's more to it than that.
What was up with the play where it looked like our defender was playing two hand touch with Sama and then fell to the turf after incorrectly calculating that he could knock Sama down with just a firm shove? Some sort of weird equal and opposite reaction thing going on. Just a very, very weird game for the defense. Also, the offense would run crappy plays on first and second down and then we would miraculously convert 3rd/4th down and long. Seems like it happened a lot. One of the weirdest Cat football games I've ever watched. Up there with 2010 aTm in terms of weird, unexpected things happening.
Did you mean 2011 aTm (quadruple overtime)?
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We had multiple plays where we needed a defender to make a one-on-one play and we didn't do it.
These ono-on-one plays were in the secondary. Defenses are set up to prevent the necessity of one-on-one plays in the secondary. Yeah, the guy that got the last touchdown was not in a one-on-one situation, he did make a hell of a play. I get your point that Iowa State made plays, but it's baffling that they had so many big plays of 50+ yards going for touchdowns (wasn't all their touchdowns on 50+ yard plays, or close to it?). I've never seen that in ANY game, much less a K-State game where the Cats couldn't put a stop to big plays. Something was goofy. You're welcome to claim that Iowa State just played that exceptionally well, I just think there's more to it than that.
What was up with the play where it looked like our defender was playing two hand touch with Sama and then fell to the turf after incorrectly calculating that he could knock Sama down with just a firm shove? Some sort of weird equal and opposite reaction thing going on. Just a very, very weird game for the defense. Also, the offense would run crappy plays on first and second down and then we would miraculously convert 3rd/4th down and long. Seems like it happened a lot. One of the weirdest Cat football games I've ever watched. Up there with 2010 aTm in terms of weird, unexpected things happening.
Did you mean 2011 aTm (quadruple overtime)?
Whoops, I was actually referencing the 2009 game where we got blown out by TTU, then we blew out aTm, then aTm smoked TTU. 2011 was crazy but not totally unexpected based on earlier results from the season.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Kansas_State_Wildcats_football_team (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Kansas_State_Wildcats_football_team)
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You can’t just roll out the motorized brushes and plows on a FieldTurf field. It’s artificial grass, not short pile carpet posing as “turf”.
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so in hindsight we should have covered the field and then we could plow or brush or whatever?
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In my opinion, every outdoor football playing surface (regardless of turf vs grass) should have an in-ground heating system.
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agreed and we have a great supply for hot water in Ward Hall
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I think it was the worst single game, play for play performance in the history of K-State from a PPP/YPP perspective. ~1.2 PPP and ~14 YPP is unreal.
Usually, you never seen those kinds of numbers for an entire game because if a team is hitting those numbers at any point, then there's usually garbage time and pulled starters involved that will bring the numbers back to earth. But that continuing over the course of the entire game (because, in part, our offense kept up and we won the turnover battle) is astonishing. That we only lost by one score while giving up 1.2 ppp is insane -- that may be the first time in FBS history that's happened.
I wonder when was the last time any team gave up 1.2 ppp and 14 ypp.
I’m comfortable calling it the most baffling statistical game in Cats history. It makes me glad the Big 12 title game was already determined. Otherwise it really would have stung.
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We had multiple plays where we needed a defender to make a one-on-one play and we didn't do it.
These ono-on-one plays were in the secondary. Defenses are set up to prevent the necessity of one-on-one plays in the secondary. Yeah, the guy that got the last touchdown was not in a one-on-one situation, he did make a hell of a play. I get your point that Iowa State made plays, but it's baffling that they had so many big plays of 50+ yards going for touchdowns (wasn't all their touchdowns on 50+ yard plays, or close to it?). I've never seen that in ANY game, much less a K-State game where the Cats couldn't put a stop to big plays. Something was goofy. You're welcome to claim that Iowa State just played that exceptionally well, I just think there's more to it than that.
What was up with the play where it looked like our defender was playing two hand touch with Sama and then fell to the turf after incorrectly calculating that he could knock Sama down with just a firm shove? Some sort of weird equal and opposite reaction thing going on. Just a very, very weird game for the defense. Also, the offense would run crappy plays on first and second down and then we would miraculously convert 3rd/4th down and long. Seems like it happened a lot. One of the weirdest Cat football games I've ever watched. Up there with 2010 aTm in terms of weird, unexpected things happening.
That was Will Lee who I think has to be hurt because he was also the one that tried to one had pick up the ballard fumble rather than just falling on it.
Didn't think much about it at the time but those two plays were very strange like he was absolutely alergic to any kind of physical contact
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We had multiple plays where we needed a defender to make a one-on-one play and we didn't do it.
These ono-on-one plays were in the secondary. Defenses are set up to prevent the necessity of one-on-one plays in the secondary. Yeah, the guy that got the last touchdown was not in a one-on-one situation, he did make a hell of a play. I get your point that Iowa State made plays, but it's baffling that they had so many big plays of 50+ yards going for touchdowns (wasn't all their touchdowns on 50+ yard plays, or close to it?). I've never seen that in ANY game, much less a K-State game where the Cats couldn't put a stop to big plays. Something was goofy. You're welcome to claim that Iowa State just played that exceptionally well, I just think there's more to it than that.
What was up with the play where it looked like our defender was playing two hand touch with Sama and then fell to the turf after incorrectly calculating that he could knock Sama down with just a firm shove? Some sort of weird equal and opposite reaction thing going on. Just a very, very weird game for the defense. Also, the offense would run crappy plays on first and second down and then we would miraculously convert 3rd/4th down and long. Seems like it happened a lot. One of the weirdest Cat football games I've ever watched. Up there with 2010 aTm in terms of weird, unexpected things happening.
That was Will Lee who I think has to be hurt because he was also the one that tried to one had pick up the ballard fumble rather than just falling on it.
Didn't think much about it at the time but those two plays were very strange like he was absolutely alergic to any kind of physical contact
Normally a very physical player. Hope he is okay.
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https://twitter.com/statsowar/status/1729165380340605111
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We had multiple plays where we needed a defender to make a one-on-one play and we didn't do it.
These ono-on-one plays were in the secondary. Defenses are set up to prevent the necessity of one-on-one plays in the secondary. Yeah, the guy that got the last touchdown was not in a one-on-one situation, he did make a hell of a play. I get your point that Iowa State made plays, but it's baffling that they had so many big plays of 50+ yards going for touchdowns (wasn't all their touchdowns on 50+ yard plays, or close to it?). I've never seen that in ANY game, much less a K-State game where the Cats couldn't put a stop to big plays. Something was goofy. You're welcome to claim that Iowa State just played that exceptionally well, I just think there's more to it than that.
What was up with the play where it looked like our defender was playing two hand touch with Sama and then fell to the turf after incorrectly calculating that he could knock Sama down with just a firm shove? Some sort of weird equal and opposite reaction thing going on. Just a very, very weird game for the defense. Also, the offense would run crappy plays on first and second down and then we would miraculously convert 3rd/4th down and long. Seems like it happened a lot. One of the weirdest Cat football games I've ever watched. Up there with 2010 aTm in terms of weird, unexpected things happening.
That was Will Lee who I think has to be hurt because he was also the one that tried to one had pick up the ballard fumble rather than just falling on it.
Didn't think much about it at the time but those two plays were very strange like he was absolutely alergic to any kind of physical contact
That play on Saturday was abhorrent and he knew it right away, he was distraught, and benched for the rest of the game, for what it's worth. He was never in position to fall on that Ballard fumble. The ball bounced under his feet, while he was moving then it was almost immediately batted away. Not getting that fumble was just really bad luck, it wasn't anyone's fault.
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I've listened and read a lot of stuff about the game and consensus is that it was probably one of the worst games ever played. I thought that at the time and even just turned my phone off after but I know that I was right in my thinking of the game.
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lol, not even close
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I've listened and read a lot of stuff about the game and consensus is that it was probably one of the worst games ever played. I thought that at the time and even just turned my phone off after but I know that I was right in my thinking of the game.
I think what probably happened was some well-intentioned but naive cats fan had a Monkey Paw and made the wish: “I wish that our defense would give up basically no plays between 4 and 60 yards”
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I've listened and read a lot of stuff about the game and consensus is that it was probably one of the worst games ever played. I thought that at the time and even just turned my phone off after but I know that I was right in my thinking of the game.
I think what probably happened was some well-intentioned but naive cats fan had a Monkey Paw and made the wish: “I wish that our defense would give up basically no plays between 4 and 60 yards”
I hope they learned their lesson before making their other wishes
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I've listened and read a lot of stuff about the game and consensus is that it was probably one of the worst games ever played. I thought that at the time and even just turned my phone off after but I know that I was right in my thinking of the game.
I think what probably happened was some well-intentioned but naive cats fan had a Monkey Paw and made the wish: “I wish that our defense would give up basically no plays between 4 and 60 yards”
More like “I hope ISU takes less than 5 snaps on KSU’s side of the field.”
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I've listened and read a lot of stuff about the game and consensus is that it was probably one of the worst games ever played. I thought that at the time and even just turned my phone off after but I know that I was right in my thinking of the game.
I think what probably happened was some well-intentioned but naive cats fan had a Monkey Paw and made the wish: “I wish that our defense would give up basically no plays between 4 and 60 yards”
More like “I hope ISU takes less than 5 snaps on KSU’s side of the field.”
They didn't even run any plays inside the red zone and scored 6 TDs, that's just crazy.
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I've listened and read a lot of stuff about the game and consensus is that it was probably one of the worst games ever played. I thought that at the time and even just turned my phone off after but I know that I was right in my thinking of the game.
I think what probably happened was some well-intentioned but naive cats fan had a Monkey Paw and made the wish: “I wish that our defense would give up basically no plays between 4 and 60 yards”
More like “I hope ISU takes less than 5 snaps on KSU’s side of the field.”
They didn't even run any plays inside the red zone and scored 6 TDs, that's just crazy.
I think they only had 1 play on our side of the 50.
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I've listened and read a lot of stuff about the game and consensus is that it was probably one of the worst games ever played. I thought that at the time and even just turned my phone off after but I know that I was right in my thinking of the game.
I think what probably happened was some well-intentioned but naive cats fan had a Monkey Paw and made the wish: “I wish that our defense would give up basically no plays between 4 and 60 yards”
More like “I hope ISU takes less than 5 snaps on KSU’s side of the field.”
They didn't even run any plays inside the red zone and scored 6 TDs, that's just crazy.
I think they only had 1 play on our side of the 50.
I wasn’t paying that close of attention, but the only plays I can recall on our side of the field were because they turned us over there—and I don’t think that drive even resulted in points!
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lol, not even close
on the defensive side, i think it was. i don't think k-state's ever had a game where they gave up so many touchdowns as often as we did. Every 6th play for ISU was a touchdown. And it's not even like we gave them short fields!
i think for whatever reason, the snow really messed with us and we gave up a few shots early and then we started getting in our heads and things snowballed.
but yeah, i don't think we've ever had a performance over the course of the entire game where the defense played as bad as it did on saturday. again, mostly because in the really really dark ages they'd pull the starters when things got out of hand, but still.
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lol, not even close
on the defensive side, i think it was. i don't think k-state's ever had a game where they gave up so many touchdowns as often as we did. Every 6th play for ISU was a touchdown. And it's not even like we gave them short fields!
i think for whatever reason, the snow really messed with us and we gave up a few shots early and then we started getting in our heads and things snowballed.
but yeah, i don't think we've ever had a performance over the course of the entire game where the defense played as bad as it did on saturday. again, mostly because in the really really dark ages they'd pull the starters when things got out of hand, but still.
Yeah defensively, it was clearly horrendous, although their offensive play success rate was actually poor for the game, but he didn't say we played a horrible defensive game, he said " and consensus is that it probably was one of the worst games ever played" which is clearly silly.
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lol, not even close
on the defensive side, i think it was. i don't think k-state's ever had a game where they gave up so many touchdowns as often as we did. Every 6th play for ISU was a touchdown. And it's not even like we gave them short fields!
i think for whatever reason, the snow really messed with us and we gave up a few shots early and then we started getting in our heads and things snowballed.
but yeah, i don't think we've ever had a performance over the course of the entire game where the defense played as bad as it did on saturday. again, mostly because in the really really dark ages they'd pull the starters when things got out of hand, but still.
Yeah defensively, it was clearly horrendous, although their offensive play success rate was actually poor for the game, but he didn't say we played a horrible defensive game, he said " and consensus is that it probably was one of the worst games ever played" which is clearly silly.
Yep. Offense did just fine. Not perfect, but given the conditions (and how much we threw), pretty darn good.
Success rate is kind of a dumb stat in a vacuum, imo. This game is kind of the perfect example of why.
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How are Cat gridiron fans feeling about the 2024 edition of Farmageddon?
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Not great tbh.
I think our secondary is going to continue to be a liability and we’ll be under pressure early to match ISU score for score. Not sure our offense can do that based on the past few weeks. If we have success running the ball early on and controlling clock (with drives ending in 7s and not 3s) we have a chance.
My low FBIQ 2 cents
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Feeling like we’re gonna get our asses whipped tbh.
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The game will come down to this: what is worse - Iowa State's rush defense or K-State's pass defense.
Whichever is worse - and both are bad - will be the loser of the game.
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It is forecasted to be 12 degrees at kickoff. Why do they schedule night football games in Ames, IA for the last day of November?
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Its going to be a rock fight at the special ed playground.
Katz win 17-14 after ISU misses a 45 yard FG with 30 seconds left that could of tied it.
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It is forecasted to be 12 degrees at kickoff. Why do they schedule night football games in Ames, IA for the last day of November?
That's a question for the networks, but the day temp won't be much better, at all.
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Its going to be a rock fight at the special ed playground.
Katz win 17-14 after ISU misses a 45 yard FG with 30 seconds left that could of tied it.
It would be fun to win thanks to a flukey last second Paul Rhodes special.
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Its going to be a rock fight at the special ed playground.
Katz win 17-14 after ISU misses a 45 yard FG with 30 seconds left that could of tied it.
It would be fun to win thanks to a flukey last second Paul Rhodes special.
Blocked extra point is always the best
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Feeling like we’re gonna get our asses whipped tbh.
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Yeah I don't have a great feeling unless the fluke goes to us this time around.
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If you are interested, Scott Wildcat discusses how goEMAW.com created Farmageddon on today's pod.
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We had better not give them their first 10 win season in the history of their program. That would be horrible.
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We had better not give them their first 10 win season in the history of their program. That would be horrible.
I hope Klieman has been using this all week. Absolute bulletin board material.
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We had better not give them their first 10 win season in the history of their program. That would be horrible.
I hope Klieman has been using this all week. Absolute bulletin board material.
Not sure if serious. If not losing by 70 pts on senior night wasn't motivational, I'm not sure the team would take notice of this.
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Its going to be a rock fight at the special ed playground.
Katz win 17-14 after ISU misses a 45 yard FG with 30 seconds left that could of tied it.
It would be fun to win thanks to a flukey last second Paul Rhodes special.
Remember that game was played at Arrowhead and on a hot day at the early part of the season. FUN GAME. :cheers: :lol:
Blocked extra point is always the best
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Losing Farmageddon is a serious flaw on any coach's resume. Losing this many times to Iowa State is, IMHO, horrible.
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Losing Farmageddon is a serious flaw on any coach's resume. Losing this many times to Iowa State is, IMHO, horrible.
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Welp
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Simply terrible
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Welp
:crossfingers: forward ?
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great start....
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Will our incompetence save us?
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Lol, this is incomplete. What a gift. The gift of boos.
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JFC. And I've been calling for the option all season. Maybe practice it.
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Riley: This is why I run JD up the middle all the time.
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Terrible call.
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Another great week of hype and no substance.
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How do you not overturn that? How did they not call it forward live? Ball went almost a full yard forward.
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that was a catch... waste of challenge and timeout
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that was a catch... waste of challenge and timeout
Somehow they gave them a first down?
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that was a catch... waste of challenge and timeout
spot, not catch
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that was a catch... waste of challenge and timeout
Somehow they gave them a first down?
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no...
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A wide open receiver? No way that doesn’t sound like us.
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Going to be a long night.
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Awful
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we weren't challenging the catch. We were challenging the spot and we were right and they gave us back the TO. try to keep up
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Gonna get run off at this rate
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What are we doing. This team just hasn't got better at anything all year.
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Silver lining, we are going to be in market for new play caller next year.
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Need to be in the market for a new HC at this rate
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But guys we have a player led culture
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So we drop a pass and then Avery and Sprivey get their routes mixed up. Execution clusterfudge so far..
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We just aren’t very good, guys.
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JFC Lockett. Give up 20 yards.
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how many times has avery made that exact same pitch to edwards? enough they can do it in their sleep.
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Pretty throw from Avery there
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All tied up ! :ksu:
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what a great throw by avery
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eff yeah
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Lmao hell yeah
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Honk honk, beep beep beep. Nice drive.
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the increased focus on ice has paid off
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Hooray for kstate
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Is Avery back?
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Is Avery back?
He never left homie
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A couple nice three and outs by the defense
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I hate isu
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Iowa State’s random love of black uniforms is so dorky.
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Iowa State’s random love of black uniforms is so dorky.
FYP
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Iowa State’s random love of black uniforms is so dorky.
Interesting strategy wearing the dominant color of your in-state rival.
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They didn't think they would snap it
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They didn't think they would snap it
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They didn't think they would snap it
Neither did I
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If we can just get them to 4th down…even if it’s 4th and short…I think they’ll punt. Just gotta get it to 4th down!
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They didn't think they would snap it
Tricky motherfuckers :curse:
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VJ is like the only enforcer left in the secondary. I love that dude
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VJ is like the only enforcer left in the secondary. I love that dude
textbook
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FG is ok. Wish defense held on the 4th down. Now let's get some points
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Going to be hard to ever win is we keep giving them the ball
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JFC
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we’re good!
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:facepalm: another short field . . .
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Not enough booze to put out these fires
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This team is ugly.
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They call they pass interference lol
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How was that DPi?
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Welp I think this is over
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They pull away from now on.....
(attempted reverse jinx)
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Game over, two score differential at any point would have been enough
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Welp I think this is over
no way, they've only scored on short fields . . . just need to hold on to the ball
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This game is gayer than havs, sorry havs but this is horseshit
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Welp I think this is over
no way, they've only scored on short fields . . . just need to hold on to the ball
That hasn’t stopped us from losing before this season
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Welp I think this is over
no way, they've only scored on short fields . . . just need to hold on to the ball
That hasn’t stopped us from losing before this season
:dunno: eight turnovers in previous three losses
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it would be nice to see avery fight for the first downs instead of going out avoiding contact
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Comedy
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another masterful fourth down play design
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it would be nice to see avery fight for the first downs instead of going out avoiding contact
Doesn’t have to be Haynes King, but at least act like you want it
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If kleiman can't step in and stop this horrible play calling he should be fired right after this game...
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I don't want to hear how good of a runner he is when he runs out of bounds and slides like a girl
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Is it possible to get the yips calling plays?
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If kleiman can't step in and stop this horrible play calling he should be fired right after this game...
I don’t get the impression he’s very “hands-on” in game.
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it would be nice to see avery fight for the first downs instead of going out avoiding contact
agree, could have had more yards and still gone out of bounds.
Also can't just throw it away there on fourth and one; should have run as soon as pocket broke down
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ISU’s keep trying to give us our breaks and we refuse to take them.
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crap that was 6 all day
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It's over, we're definitely losing
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Holy crap
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Lmao hell yeah
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well... that helps...
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I wish Brown were that electric consistently. He has some pro level moves sometimes.
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OK, how many of you naysayers had burned turkey on Thx. Giving?
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OK, how many of you naysayers had burned turkey on Thx. Giving?
I had raw deer meat and drank whiskey from a boot.
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Are we the most inept team ever when the clock requires a sense of urgency?
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Are we the most inept team ever when the clock requires a sense of urgency?
Easily
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Are we the most inept team ever when the clock requires a sense of urgency?
Easily
coaching...
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it would be nice to see avery fight for the first downs instead of going out avoiding contact
goes down again before contact on third and very long
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rough ridin' STOP IT
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That was not a hurry up offense situation, at least after the penalty
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another gift...
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This dude is only supposed to kick our ass when it snows
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Haha. #6.
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Jesus Christ
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LoL, we are so out coached
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Second half defense adjustments: sit Jack Fabris for the rest of the game.
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LoL, we are so out coached
We also don’t have very good players.
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So dumb
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So so dumb
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That was a very bad defensive drive there. Just very very very bad.
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Kleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.
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I just don't know guys. I don't see what can happen to fix the massive problems in the program.
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I just don't know guys. I don't see what can happen to fix the massive problems in the program.
Riley needs to go back to OL line and we'd be fine.
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Hahahah. What a very 8-4 series of play calls.
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what the eff are they trying to prove with these offensive plays?
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I just don't know guys. I don't see what can happen to fix the massive problems in the program.
Riley needs to go back to OL line and we'd be fine.
That won't fix the defense
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Turnovers and timidity. We gotta ball out
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To be the team that gives Iowa State is first ten win season is enough to just shut down the whole thing. Close it down and sell the stadium to KU.
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8-4 head coach gonna 8-4
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I think this "player led program" experiment can only take you so far. Didn't Klieman once say something like the coaches didn't even need to be at practices because the players knew how to run all the exercises? This was last year with an older team and I know they didn't actually skip practices, but I don't think the guys are getting the attention to detail with this kind of approach.
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To be the team that gives Iowa State is first ten win season is enough to just shut down the whole thing. Close it down and sell the stadium to KU.
Klieman should commit seppeku
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lol you guys
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To be the team that gives Iowa State is first ten win season is enough to just shut down the whole thing. Close it down and sell the stadium to KU.
Klieman should commit seppeku
1. I don’t think ku can afford it without some very creative accounting
2. I’ll get the sword
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Kleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.
even ron prince had a winning record against iowa state
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Can somebody tell me how we've been passed by Iowa State in both basketball and football?
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Kleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.
even ron prince had a winning record against iowa state
I bet Klieman has already lost more times to Iowa State than Bill did in both his tenures combined.
No one needs to double check this.
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Can somebody tell me how we've been passed by Iowa State in both basketball and football?
Gene Taylor
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Kleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.
even ron prince had a winning record against iowa state
And Texas. #rehireron
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I'm going to be a huge baby about this.
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I’ll be honest. It kind of feels like we’re running out of scenarios for ISU to hilariously blow it.
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It's depressing but let's see what happens. Realistically losing vs Houston was the true stupid of this season
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It's depressing but let's see what happens. Realistically losing vs Houston was the true stupid of this season
No losing to Iowa State is always worse
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Also Brecht is due for a pick. He's nearly thrown 3
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I'm going to be a huge baby about this.
:lol:
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Can somebody tell me how we've been passed by Iowa State in both basketball and football?
Gene Taylor
Is my hundred bucks a year to wildcat NIL not helping? Guys we gotta do something
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it has to be hard for klieman to be coaching against his dream job
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Shakey defense start but they strapped in
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Might be the bourbon talking, but if we don't turn it over this half, I like our chances.
Tom
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Might be the bourbon talking, but if we don't turn it over this half, I like our chances.
Tom
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Love the energy Tom.
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ISU is averaging 4.2 ypp, their QB is playing like crap and spraying the ball everywhere and we're down 2 scores because... well, of course we are.
This game is available to win, but I have zero confidence in this mentally weak team to pull it off.
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ISU is averaging 4.2 ypp, their QB is playing like crap and spraying the ball everywhere and we're down 2 scores because... well, of course we are.
It's because of two turnovers deep in our own territory.
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ISU is averaging 4.2 ypp, their QB is playing like crap and spraying the ball everywhere and we're down 2 scores because... well, of course we are.
This game is available to win, but I have zero confidence in this mentally weak team to pull it off.
At least Will Lee isn't on the team to quite literally give up. We may just lose naturally.
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Also Johnson is still far from 100%
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wonder when they will figure out that running straight at the defensive line doesn't work...
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ISU is averaging 4.2 ypp, their QB is playing like crap and spraying the ball everywhere and we're down 2 scores because... well, of course we are.
This game is available to win, but I have zero confidence in this mentally weak team to pull it off.
2 shots wild turkey 101
Splash of coke zero
LFG Kid!
Tom
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ISU is averaging 4.2 ypp, their QB is playing like crap and spraying the ball everywhere and we're down 2 scores because... well, of course we are.
This game is available to win, but I have zero confidence in this mentally weak team to pull it off.
2 shots wild turkey 101
Splash of coke zero
LFG Kid!
Tom
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Hell yeah Tom
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short side of field...????
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I hate this team so much.
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lol.....
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JFC
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That special teams coordinator hire has really been aces
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That is the game. Like we'll lose because of that
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Losers lose like this.
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So we need a new ST and OC coordinator. What the hell happened to us
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I hate this team so much.
Yup. Easily the most frustrating team in years. I hate it
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Only a new OC is going to take the sting out of that insanely bad goal to go series.
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So we need a new ST and OC coordinator. What the hell happened to us
and head coach....klieman can't handle this conference...
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Only a new OC is going to take the sting out of that insanely bad goal to go series.
Didn't even test the pass. It's maddening
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Those 3 play calls from the 5 were an absolute joke.
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ISU is averaging 4.2 ypp, their QB is playing like crap and spraying the ball everywhere and we're down 2 scores because... well, of course we are.
This game is available to win, but I have zero confidence in this mentally weak team to pull it off.
2 shots wild turkey 101
Splash of coke zero
LFG Kid!
Tom
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Hell yeah Tom
I try not to drink hard liquor before the kids are in bed, but this team keeps making me break that rule
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So when it makes sense to feed Giddens ...
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Also Johnson is still far from 100%
This may be the most frustrating sentence in sports. Is anyone ever 100%? And why have backups? Maybe next year he's 100%? (Not blaming you michigan, just venting).
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Might be the bourbon talking, but if we don't turn it over this half, I like our chances.
Tom
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Blocked FG counts right
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Also Johnson is still far from 100%
This may be the most frustrating sentence in sports. Is anyone ever 100%? And why have backups? Maybe next year he's 100%? (Not blaming you michigan, just venting).
I think he was close before the CU game, not close after that. This isn't rocket science
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We're lucky Iowa State is so shitty
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Also Johnson is still far from 100%
This may be the most frustrating sentence in sports. Is anyone ever 100%? And why have backups? Maybe next year he's 100%? (Not blaming you michigan, just venting).
I think he was close before the CU game, not close after that. This isn't rocket science
Ya sure?
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Lockett has let punts bounce for yardage all game long. Get up there and field thee effing punt.
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Avery has thrown good balls tonight
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If that ain't 100% then I don't know what is
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Here we go again
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Also Johnson is still far from 100%
This may be the most frustrating sentence in sports. Is anyone ever 100%? And why have backups? Maybe next year he's 100%? (Not blaming you michigan, just venting).
I think he was close before the CU game, not close after that. This isn't rocket science
Hot take rusty a smith
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Finally
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Nice job sunshine
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Phew
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See?! Let him throw!
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Lockett has let punts bounce for yardage all game long. Get up there and field thee effing punt.
This annoys the absolute piss out of me and I cannot understand how it hasn't been addressed
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Way to put your effing head down!
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Good god did we need that
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I swear to God defense.... You can not just let them drive the field and score here.
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Frustrating as most KSU games have been this season, but that was my favorite Avery run all year and we’re finally throwing downfield; even doing it over the middle!
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Lockett has let punts bounce for yardage all game long. Get up there and field thee effing punt.
This annoys the absolute piss out of me and I cannot understand how it hasn't been addressed
My love for his family makes it so hard to critique him. But you're prob right.
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I like to believe in my heart that Riley read this thread and got his crap together.
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I think this "player led program" experiment can only take you so far. Didn't Klieman once say something like the coaches didn't even need to be at practices because the players knew how to run all the exercises? This was last year with an older team and I know they didn't actually skip practices, but I don't think the guys are getting the attention to detail with this kind of approach.
I am wondering if the offense sees any work as an entire unit until game day.
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Le sigh
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I swear to God defense.... You can not just let them drive the field and score here.
Of course they did
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I swear to God defense.... You can not just let them drive the field and score here.
They're not listening to you.
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I like to believe in my heart that Riley read this thread and got his crap together.
Do the same for Ol' Klanderman?
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Seems like we need it
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If we stop them here and we don't throw up the mob i give up.
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I swear to God defense.... You can not just let them drive the field and score here.
They're not listening to you.
I wish they would. I have good ideas.
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I swear to God defense.... You can not just let them drive the field and score here.
They're not listening to you.
I wish they would. I have good ideas.
:lynchmob:
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They did it!
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CHONGS now tell our guys to go down and score.
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Guys, I have been keeping track, and Conner Riley has run DJamer up the middle now 9 freaking times on first down alone. His play calling is inexcusable, despite #8 being that awesome run. None of the other times have gained even 4 yards.
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CHONGS seriously what should we call next
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We can't let them get 10 wins, we just can't.
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CHONGS?!
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Chongs, this is your moment.
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Wild Turkey air raid here we go.
Tom
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We need to throw some rough ridin' bombs
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CHONGS?!
:bwpopcorn:
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Why did Avery not run!?!?!?
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Why did Avery not run!?!?!?
He's hurt
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Why does Avery do these kind of things.
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Ok that was not a good play there
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And he just ran twenty yards backwards for a safety.
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lol.... what a play call...
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smdh
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Why did Avery not run!?!?!?
He's hurt
....And?
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what the hell was Johnson doing :facepalm:
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Avery Johnson is an idiot I think
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JFC. Well still just a TD down
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Avery Johnson - the cause of and solution to our problems.
Enjoy the roller coaster ride
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Why did Avery not run!?!?!?
He's hurt
....And?
You are commenting on a problem without providing any possible solution.
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Oof
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I'm blaming Matt Wells for that one
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We’re the Iowa State now.
(Objectively hilarious play from Avery though you have to admit)
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Why did Avery not run!?!?!?
He's hurt
....And?
I mean he's not what he was before the injury. Before the injury he would have gotten away with whatever he was trying on that safety.
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lol.... what a play call...
lol, that was execution, not a play call problem
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Can only hope he learns from that to eat it next time. Some times you have to eat it
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I didn't think I'd have to tell them not to run the "give up a safety" play, but here were are
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I blame chongs
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well, atleast he didn't fumble when he finally got to the endzone . . .
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Avery needs to stop spinning. Just run out of the pocket laterally.
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I blame chongs
I accept it
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lol.... what a play call...
lol, that was execution, not a play call problem
Yes, but it seems like have moved away from check with me's to the sideline pre snap. Probably would have recognized the blitz then and gotten him to only throw look at the hot route.
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I blame chongs
:Wha:
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Okay, Chongs. Get in the rough ridin' game here and oracle us to victory
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Eff, I'll do it. We need to pick off this unwashed douche kid.
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I do not understand what iowa state is doing on this drive.
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I do not understand what iowa state is doing on this drive.
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Mocking our total ineptitude.
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Giddens hurt apparently
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Defense is spent
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Objectively, ISU has played poorly on offense, average on defense and they're still going to win because of our own ineptitude.
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Defense is spent
This is not what you were asked to do. Pick here
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Chongs quick call that 4 down stand vs miami 15 years ago.
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Defense has no clue
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Nice call chongs
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Defense has no clue
They've been decent overall.
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We probs needed that timeout
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Surely they're not dumb enough to go for it here right.
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We can still stupidly win this
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Our defense isn't the problem - isu is averaging under 5 ypp (under 4 ypp on pass attempts!l. Isu's run 70 plays to kstate's 50.
Our offense will bear the burden for this loss (like they have in all of our losses this year)
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Ok it's bombs away time. We can't do some bullshit 4 minute drive here to get only 3 points.
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Going to need some fresh ice for OT.
Tom
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Ok it's bombs away time. We can't do some bullshit 4 minute drive here to get only 3 points.
:emawkid:
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Defense has no clue
They've been decent overall.
In general yes, but repeatedly having trouble getting lined up.
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It's redemption time on the Avery roller coaster :emawkid:
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Avery needs to stop spinning. Just run out of the pocket laterally.
It is a pretty strange move that he seems to love dearly.
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Our defense isn't the problem - isu is averaging under 5 ypp (under 4 ypp on pass attempts!l. Isu's run 70 plays to kstate's 50.
Our offense will bear the burden for this loss (like they have in all of our losses this year)
It's really just the two turnovers setting up short fields that did us in. Which is the offense but they have been productive even they held onto the ball
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So many drops
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Hey Avery. Maybe just run for those two yards ya know?
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Welp
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A designed draw might have been a better call there
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well that stinks
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So many drops
Yeah. :flush:
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That third down call was horrific
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It's redemption time on the Avery roller coaster :emawkid:
or maybe not :frown:
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Can't put that much pressure on theChosen One!
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That third down call was horrific
Conner Riley has proven all season that he has no business being an OC for any D1 program.
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That's a crap throw
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What a disappointing season
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That third down call was horrific
Conner Riley has proven all season that he has no business being an OC for any D1 program.
I like him, but we can do better and he belongs at OL
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Like the chiefs, we need the d to bail us out now.
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It's redemption time on the Avery roller coaster :emawkid:
or maybe not :frown:
That will come in the bowl game. He'll be a different player
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The straight drop back calls on 4th and 1 or 2 are fireable offenses.
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Having timeouts would be beneficial now.
Gonna need a fluke fumble.
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This was a bad season of Kansas State football.
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Our defense isn't the problem - isu is averaging under 5 ypp (under 4 ypp on pass attempts!l. Isu's run 70 plays to kstate's 50.
Our offense will bear the burden for this loss (like they have in all of our losses this year)
It's really just the two turnovers setting up short fields that did us in. Which is the offense but they have been productive even they held onto the ball
two turnovers made it hard, but the safety was the death knell
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Somebody else mentioned it - we are now iowa state and they are now ksu.
And it's gross
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It's redemption time on the Avery roller coaster :emawkid:
or maybe not :frown:
That will come in the bowl game. He'll be a different player
Heh...A couple weeks of bowl practice is going to be a complete waste with this offensive staff.
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It's redemption time on the Avery roller coaster :emawkid:
or maybe not :frown:
That will come in the bowl game. He'll be a different player
Dude I love Avery. Are you his mom though? The playoff is the only goal these days. As fans we all know what he can do.
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I’m not happy right now.
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It's redemption time on the Avery roller coaster :emawkid:
or maybe not :frown:
That will come in the bowl game. He'll be a different player
Heh...A couple weeks of bowl practice is going to be a complete waste with this offensive staff.
He'll be healthy again so it won't matter what the coaches do
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It's redemption time on the Avery roller coaster :emawkid:
or maybe not :frown:
That will come in the bowl game. He'll be a different player
Heh...A couple weeks of bowl practice is going to be a complete waste with this offensive staff.
I feel like in the NIL era, it's pretty much a waste no matter what
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It's redemption time on the Avery roller coaster :emawkid:
or maybe not :frown:
That will come in the bowl game. He'll be a different player
Dude I love Avery. Are you his mom though? The playoff is the only goal these days. As fans we all know what he can do.
Yes I'm his mom
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Somebody else mentioned it - we are now iowa state and they are now ksu.
And it's gross
:frown:
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Somebody else mentioned it - we are now iowa state and they are now ksu.
And it's gross
:frown:
:cry:
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It's redemption time on the Avery roller coaster :emawkid:
or maybe not :frown:
That will come in the bowl game. He'll be a different player
Dude I love Avery. Are you his mom though? The playoff is the only goal these days. As fans we all know what he can do.
Yes I'm his mom
Fair enough.
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It's hard to see much hope for the future with this staff
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This was a bad season of Kansas State football.
not very fun to watch this team. the lows far outweighed their highs.
i felt like the next stupid eff up move was always just one play away, and it usually was.
avery played well at times and mind numbing at others, I guess that a what a sophomore is
we need to got a lot tougher on both sides of the ball
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Our defense isn't the problem - isu is averaging under 5 ypp (under 4 ypp on pass attempts!l. Isu's run 70 plays to kstate's 50.
Our offense will bear the burden for this loss (like they have in all of our losses this year)
It's really just the two turnovers setting up short fields that did us in. Which is the offense but they have been productive even they held onto the ball
two turnovers made it hard, but the safety was the death knell
Our defense isn't elite, but you can legitimately place the blame of every loss on the offense through turnovers, bad playcalling, etc.
And this game is no different. ISU has a good passing game and we've largely held it in check.
Our offense - playing an absolutely dreadful run defense - couldn't run the ball and relied on AJ to pass us to a win.
And, here we are.
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It's hard to see much hope for the future with this staff
They won a Dr. pepper two years ago
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Lol, they're gonna rush the field for winning 10 games. I'm not upset, have fun. But it's amusing the reason.
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It's hard to see much hope for the future with this staff
Well, new OC obviously has to happen.
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well...all we have to look forward to is kleinman's weepy post game presser...
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Lol. Here we go.
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Not over!
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Farmageddon baby!
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It's hard to see much hope for the future with this staff
They won a Dr. pepper two years ago
That was a different staff
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Not over!
:crossfingers:
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Just tell me why Avery doesn't think he's fast anymore.
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Not over!
:crossfingers:
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One. Final. Shot for this team to salvage this abject disappointment of a season.
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I bet on Iowa St. and I'm still pissed and embarrassed.
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Glad we wasted all those timeouts...
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Honestly, Campbell deserves to sweat it out, going conservative when had been aggressive all night.
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It's hard to see much hope for the future with this staff
They won a Dr. pepper two years ago
That was a different staff
You think Klein is the difference between a championship and no hope ever again? I suppose it's plausible
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I think Lemur tipped it
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It's hard to see much hope for the future with this staff
They won a Dr. pepper two years ago
That was a different staff
You think Klein is the difference between a championship and no hope ever again? I suppose it's plausible
That and three more years of age and a different (NIL) era.
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uninspired...
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
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It's hard to see much hope for the future with this staff
They won a Dr. pepper two years ago
That was a different staff
You think Klein is the difference between a championship and no hope ever again? I suppose it's plausible
That and three more years of age and a different (NIL) era.
I think you're overreacting but it's also what you do
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It's hard to see much hope for the future with this staff
They won a Dr. pepper two years ago
That was a different staff
You think Klein is the difference between a championship and no hope ever again? I suppose it's plausible
That and three more years of age and a different (NIL) era.
I think you're overreacting but it's also what you do
That is true. I said I was going to.
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What a crap show by everyone involved.
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Somebody else mentioned it - we are now iowa state and they are now ksu.
And it's gross
omg you're right
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
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Not that Avery would have converted but they really shouldn’t get to benefit from a clear roughing the passer like that.
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Somebody else mentioned it - we are now iowa state and they are now ksu.
And it's gross
omg you're right
Yup
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
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Woof.
Come home Collin.
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Oh God, Sweet Caroline? We lost to this crap?
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Soooooooo........
that happened.
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We lost to the ugliest coach in college football. Congratulations Chris.
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
NEW OC
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?
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Nothing left to do but see if Houston can ensure that ISU misses the Big 12 championship during the greatest season in program history.
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Go Houston.
Tom
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?
No I think he's playing hurt. I'm not really mad at Avery.
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Last 4 regular season games:
2019 2-2, 8-4
2020 0-4, 4-6
2021 2-2, 7-5
2022 3-1, 9-3
2023 2-2, 8-4
2024 1-3, 8-4
Stumble down the stretch to 8-4. That’s our MO.
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This whole thing makes me want to sit on a knife.
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?
No, i was kinda just giving you crap. I do think that changed him. But this offensive philosophy is doing him no favors. He's so obviously an instinctive player. Why does he look like he's doing calculus everytime he's in the pocket? IMO that's coaching.
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?
I’d need to see some stats but it’s not like he was tucking and running a lot or lighting defenses up with an amazing QBR before Colorado. So I don’t really get the insistence on that narrative.
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Most disappointing season in a long time. Just gross all around.
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Rushing the field for winning 10 games has to be the most Iowa thing ever right?
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He can't beat Matt Campbell.. Let that sink in a little. :flush: (ftp://:flush:)
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?
All his best games came after CU so I don't think so.
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
NEW OC
Agreed, but CK has a hard time getting rid of his friends.
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?
No, i was kinda just giving you crap. I do think that changed him. But this offensive philosophy is doing him no favors. He's so obviously an instinctive player. Why does he look like he's doing calculus everytime he's in the pocket? IMO that's coaching.
It’s definitely coaching. I think part of it is development but I also just think we’re doing a horrible job of drawing up a scheme that fits his skill set. We badly need a new OC.
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?
I’d need to see some stats but it’s not like he was tucking and running a lot or lighting defenses up with an amazing QBR before Colorado. So I don’t really get the insistence on that narrative.
I thought he was just slower and less nimble
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?
No, i was kinda just giving you crap. I do think that changed him. But this offensive philosophy is doing him no favors. He's so obviously an instinctive player. Why does he look like he's doing calculus everytime he's in the pocket? IMO that's coaching.
Yeah I'd agree with that
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This season was yuck. I have little confidence in the people running this thing.
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Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.
Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.
https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df
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Good lord does Avery look like a mess back there.
His decision making needs a lot of improvement
That's the opposite. He needs to stop making decisions and feel things out. That's his gift. He needs to quit shitting on his gift.
In all seriousness am I the only one who thinks he's never recovered from an ab injury at CU?
I’d need to see some stats but it’s not like he was tucking and running a lot or lighting defenses up with an amazing QBR before Colorado. So I don’t really get the insistence on that narrative.
Last year he was though. He's been told to tuck and slide like a bitch. He's a stallion and he needs to run. eff the consequences.
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Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it.
Yeah I want people to be more positive (or at least less "oh God we're the biggest losers ever"-y) but I understand why they are sad
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In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).
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Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it.
Yeah I want people to be more positive (or at least less "oh God we're the biggest losers ever"-y) but I understand why they are sad
You would fit well posting on the 'phog' board but thank you for understanding the sadness here. :jerk: (ftp://:jerk:)
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Last 4 regular season games:
2019 2-2, 8-4
2020 0-4, 4-6
2021 2-2, 7-5
2022 3-1, 9-3
2023 2-2, 8-4
2024 1-3, 8-4
Stumble down the stretch to 8-4. That’s our MO.
Pretty gross when you look at it like that.
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Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.
Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.
https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df
I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.
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Kleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.
even ron prince had a winning record against iowa state
I bet Klieman has already lost more times to Iowa State than Bill did in both his tenures combined.
No one needs to double check this.
1.0 13-4, retired after back to back losses in 04 and 05
2.0 9-1, retired after loss in 18
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Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.
Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.
https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df
I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.
The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron.
In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).
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Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.
Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.
https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df
I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.
The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron.
In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).
Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.
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That’s not to crap on AJ either. He could prob be his same smiling/ stoic self leading a successful offense, but this offensive staff didn’t do him any favors. The production wasn’t great, but the aesthetics of this offense were ass most of the season. Part of the reason why the season was so frustrating.
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Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.
Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.
https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df
I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.
The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron.
In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).
Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.
I enjoyed it under Klein. Was a breath of fresh air. This season was a total turd philosophy and entertainment wise on offense.
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Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.
Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.
https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df
I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.
The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron.
In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).
Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.
I enjoyed it under Klein. Was a breath of fresh air. This season was a total turd philosophy and entertainment wise on offense.
I know right?
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Warrior spirit LMAO nerds
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Warrior spirit LMAO nerds
:cheers:
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Hey if anyone is near the tanners across from ku med i'll by you a drink. I'm choosing to believe this is the last time I'll watch us lose here. Go cats.
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We went 8-4 with basically a partially healthy redshirt freshman QB. Good defensive effort. I love the Cats! Always will!
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Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.
Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.
https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df
I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.
The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron.
In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).
Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.
I enjoyed it under Klein. Was a breath of fresh air. This season was a total turd philosophy and entertainment wise on offense.
I know right?
For comparison, Klein's new team is 8-4 this season, also.
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Mich, I think you really just want him to be good, and want to be positive about it. A lot of the things he does almost beg the question of whether or not he’s healthy. That said he still went 8-4, 5-4 as a sophomore in the XII (which is really pretty mediocre tho), and put up respectable stats as a true sophomore.
Ell Roberson struggled so much as a sophomore that it took until a win over USC as a junior to solidify the starting job over Marc Dunn. Hopefully AJ can finish his career in a similar fashion.
https://youtu.be/YvykTJ6zEFk?si=nQ7JAT6MdDpAG7df
I'm sorry, AJ has none of the swag Ell had but maybe that comes from winning. We were on a tear this year after BYU but somthing else clogged up the gears. That could be on the coaches and Avery is still a sophmore, but he wasn't the problem tonight. It was everything else. So many botched plays. If AJ sticks around, we need something to change to help him get to Ell Roberson status.
The lack of swag, fire, put-the-team-on-my-back, or whatever you want to call it is missing with AJ at this point, and it makes what benja posted below difficult to compute. We’re used to our great QBs being absolute warriors. It’s like the difference between guys like AI, Kobe etc., and a guy like Lebron.
In all seriousness we should all love Avery Johnson. Just gotta make this offense work for him. (If you have a friend with nice offensive concepts send them over).
Yeah but they got that warrior spirit directly from the top. And I'm not even saying klieman isn't that guy. It's just that Snyder was different. These days college ball is different. Sunshine is a different kind of recruit. I truly believe the right system will unlock him. I just don't like our offensive system currently and haven't for awhile.
I enjoyed it under Klein. Was a breath of fresh air. This season was a total turd philosophy and entertainment wise on offense.
I know right?
For comparison, Klein's new team is 8-4 this season, also.
Yeah. And if you look at it statistically, they practically have the exact same offensive numbers.
I just personally think Collin and Avery could have been a special fit. Who knows. I just know you can't have a guy back there looking confused and hesitant all the time.
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We went 8-4 with basically a partially healthy redshirt freshman QB. Good defensive effort. I love the Cats! Always will!
ASU and ISU are playing for the Dr Pepper with their freshman and sophomore QB's. ASU's was out two weeks with a cracked rib.
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I’m choosing to believe this was a throw away season who’s only purpose was to get everyone experience for a run next year.
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Kleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.
even ron prince had a winning record against iowa state
I bet Klieman has already lost more times to Iowa State than Bill did in both his tenures combined.
No one needs to double check this.
1.0 13-4, retired after back to back losses in 04 and 05
2.0 9-1, retired after loss in 18
Wow... that is NOT a good stat for Kleiman.
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What was with the weird mask he kind of wore part of the time on and off?
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Kleiman is going to be 2-4 against Iowa State. That can't be excused anymore.
even ron prince had a winning record against iowa state
I bet Klieman has already lost more times to Iowa State than Bill did in both his tenures combined.
No one needs to double check this.
1.0 13-4, retired after back to back losses in 04 and 05
2.0 9-1, retired after loss in 18
Ass-cannings.
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Avery needs to stop spinning. Just run out of the pocket laterally.
It is a pretty strange move that he seems to love dearly.
Because it's worked literally every other time he's done it this year, and even then, the pass was the issue.
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I’m choosing to believe this was a throw away season who’s only purpose was to get everyone experience for a run next year.
You know what? I'm choosing to agree with you.