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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: bucket on May 10, 2018, 07:58:56 PM
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https://twitter.com/MrFilmkritik/status/994687619152994307
This plus Roseanne. Congrats, Trumpers!
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They can have the sitcoms.
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Jesus
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I think it's very important to notice, bucket, who's obviously not triggered, started this thread. Yeah, he lives in wacky land, but that board is for the right wing triggered peeps. TV is about ratings, sweetheart.
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I wouldn't care if Tim Allen were funnier than Andy Samberg, but sadly that is not the case.
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I watched the episode of this show that had Marshawn in it, and even he couldn't save it.
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People melted pretty hard when that show was originally S canned.
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What makes a sitcom "conservative"? No blacks?
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Last Man on Earth was great.
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What makes a sitcom "conservative"? No blacks?
They have black characters, but they do make jabs at Hillary (pre election), say nice things about Trump, like hunting, fishing, etc. All that junk.
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What makes a sitcom "conservative"? No blacks?
They have black characters, but they do make jabs at Hillary (pre election), say nice things about Trump, like hunting, fishing, etc. All that junk.
Trump is quite a hunter/angler
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Well I'm glad trump people get their hunting and fishing sitcom.
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Yeah, everyone needs a place to vent.
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I love B99 but these shows are canceled/renewed due to ratings. The network only cares about political messaging to the extent that it will increase their ratings. People should have watched B99 just like they should have watched Last Man Standing initially if they don't want these shows cancelled. Most people are far bigger slaves to money than political ideology.
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Serious question to the people: when was the last time you intentionally watched a non-sports or news based network show? I've definitely caught bits of shows here and there but I can't imagine how bored I'd have to be to actually seek out that bland crap.
Probably been since the early seasons of the office for me.
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Serious question to the people: when was the last time you intentionally watched a non-sports or news based network show? I've definitely caught bits of shows here and there but I can't imagine how bored I'd have to be to actually seek out that bland crap.
Probably been since the early seasons of the office for me.
I tune into Last Man On Earth every Sunday night. Season finale was last weekend.
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I watch B99, Last Man on Earth, and Bob's Burgers. They are DVR'd and watched later at my convenience. The wife also watches the Shonda shows that way (usually when I'm watching sports).
I tune into Last Man On Earth every Sunday night. Season Series finale was last weekend.
FYP
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I hope January Jones gets on another show, I love her.
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I watch B99, Last Man on Earth, and Bob's Burgers. They are DVR'd and watched later at my convenience. The wife also watches the Shonda shows that way (usually when I'm watching sports).
I tune into Last Man On Earth every Sunday night. Season Series finale was last weekend.
FYP
:nono:
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Serious question to the people: when was the last time you intentionally watched a non-sports or news based network show? I've definitely caught bits of shows here and there but I can't imagine how bored I'd have to be to actually seek out that bland crap.
Probably been since the early seasons of the office for me.
I should probably take this to the shame thread, but there's nothing on on Monday nights, so I watch that show that joey tribbiani is on.
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househunters
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What makes a sitcom "conservative"? No blacks?
Or gays. My FIL doesn't watch Modern Family because of the "gay agenda"
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I won't let my kids watch this Tim Allen show because of the poor drug example it sets. I don't need coke addicts in my family
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Also a murderer :th_twocents:
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yeah, if you watch it's likely you will get way into crack. NTY
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Always makes me think of this :lol:
https://www.clickhole.com/people-whom-tim-allen-ratted-out-when-he-got-arrested-f-1825384998/amp
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Let's have Wacky categorize (and tell us why) various sitcoms into Liberal vs Conservative
Up first:
Seinfeld
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That brooklyn 9-9 show is horrible and not funny at all.
I didn't realize home improvement was still on, but that show sucks too (not as bad as 9-9 tho)
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That brooklyn 9-9 show is horrible and not funny at all.
I didn't realize home improvement was still on, but that show sucks too (not as bad as 9-9 tho)
Home improvement isn't still on
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Let's have Wacky categorize (and tell us why) various sitcoms into Liberal vs Conservative
Up first:
Seinfeld
It's neither. Really the only conservative sitcoms there were was Rosanne, Home Improvement, and last man standing.
Libs shows are more of the talk shows. Melissa b, the daily show, etc. Don't really care tho, I like them all, minus Rosanne, it's pretty trashy.
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That brooklyn 9-9 show is horrible and not funny at all.
I didn't realize home improvement was still on, but that show sucks too (not as bad as 9-9 tho)
Home improvement isn't still on
Tim Allen has a different show than home improvement????
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Also, the premise of the tweet in the OP is asinine. Pretending that tv is just full of all white hetero programming is absurd.
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Yes, last man standing. It was out for like 6 years. Now they're bringing it back.
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That woman from The Middle and that used to be on Everybody Loves Raymond is a big conservative.
Jon Voight is on Fox News as much as he's on Ray Donovan.
The new Roseann isn't really a conservative show, IMO. Roseann's character is a Trump supporter and that's about the only thing conservative about the show.
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That quirky chick on will and grace is super conservative.
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I'm not a fan of the new Will and Grace. It's one Trump joke after the other.
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That woman from The Middle and that used to be on Everybody Loves Raymond is a big conservative.
Jon Voight is on Fox News as much as he's on Ray Donovan.
The new Roseann isn't really a conservative show, IMO. Roseann's character is a Trump supporter and that's about the only thing conservative about the show.
This weeks episode spent the entire time showing how scared Rosanne was of her new Muslim neighbors, only to find out, they were OK. Quite the message.
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Yes, last man standing. It was out for like 6 years. Now they're bringing it back.
Rehab?
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Ha. No. Trump just got elected and whatever network they were on pulled the plug because they thought it would be too controversial.
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The Great Indoors
Arrested Development
Cheers
Friends
30 Rock
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
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Obviously Duck Dynasty too.
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Ha. No. Trump just got elected and whatever network they were on pulled the plug because they thought it would be too controversial.
so he is still addicted
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Ha. No. Trump just got elected and whatever network they were on pulled the plug because they thought it would be too controversial.
I mean, you can think it’s a conspiracy or whatever, but it was cancelled originally because nobody watched it
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Probably. He drinks beer on the show and you know what beer leads to.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/ESYVybJUDs3rq/giphy.gif)
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Ha. No. Trump just got elected and whatever network they were on pulled the plug because they thought it would be too controversial.
I mean, you can think it’s a conspiracy or whatever, but it was cancelled originally because nobody watched it
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I'm not some last man standing apologist, but that's just not true. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/why-last-man-standing-was-canceled-tim-allen-responds-1004414
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Fuller House
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conservative dads have never even heard of arrested development
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Ha. No. Trump just got elected and whatever network they were on pulled the plug because they thought it would be too controversial.
I mean, you can think it’s a conspiracy or whatever, but it was cancelled originally because nobody watched it
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I'm not some last man standing apologist, but that's just not true. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/why-last-man-standing-was-canceled-tim-allen-responds-1004414
It's ratings weren't good overall. Fine for a Friday night but not worth trying to carry it over a more popular night when they abandoned Friday sitcoms. Now that Roseanne has started strong, they think they have a spot where it can carry over that audience and succeed.
Ratings is the same reason B99 is getting cancelled so anybody complaining about that being a political motive is also stupid.
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Yeah, i'm cool with it either way. I've only caught the reruns of that show. I had no idea they were on, on Friday nights. That seems a bit foolish in the first place.
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So was Mr Rogers Neighborhood a conservative or liberal show
Barney was communist. Purple Stalin.
Thomas Tank Engine is a hard working capitalist.
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Praise be, Commander Reno. Praise be.
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NBC picked up 99.
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Looks like lib NBC and conservative fox just traded shows. Pretty good idea.
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Thread belongs in meltdown about Trump thread. Mods, start mod’ing
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Thread belongs in meltdown about Trump thread. Mods, start mod’ing
Wacks is two steps ahead of you, Dax.
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Lol wut
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/abc-boss-defends-roseanne-joke-about-black-and-asian-families/ar-AAxkjrW?li=BBnb7Kz
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How so?
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I think she really nailed the Trump supporter aspect to her character by adding the oxy addiction.
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when I watch Roseanne, which I do, I assume that is the typical home of a trump voter, so it gives me a nice insight
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when I watch Roseanne, which I do, I assume that is the typical home of a trump voter, so it gives me a nice insight
Hard working mixed poor folk? Not very liberal of you to get your jollies off of that. Sad.
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when I watch Roseanne, which I do, I assume that is the typical home of a trump voter, so it gives me a nice insight
Hard working mixed poor folk? Not very liberal of you to get your jollies off of that. Sad.
You quoted the wrong post I think because that isn’t responsive to what I actually wrote.
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It's just a progressive show that tries to be neutral with today's matters. Take it easy on your lib friends who don't have insurance and can't find work (or don't try too), Stop making fun of them. :cheers:
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Also your in laws, we're all friends here.
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Nobody will ever make $ off dipshit lawyer trademarks.
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Night night @Trim You rough ridin' douche!
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:love:
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:love:
Holy crap! :love: Is this really happening?
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when I watch Roseanne, which I do, I assume that is the typical home of a trump voter, so it gives me a nice insight
Hard working mixed poor folk? Not very liberal of you to get your jollies off of that. Sad.
You quoted the wrong post I think because that isn’t responsive to what I actually wrote.
I mean, you hate poor ppl, trump, you married into $ with massive debt, what else am I missing?
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I mean, if it was real lawyering I wouldn't flinch. Thank god for that, right?
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Remindmebot remind me in 2 days
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What a little psycho
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Unhinged
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Unhinged
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Total man of taste and distinction move
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Probably time to take a 24 hour breather Wacks
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lol nah. Kinda tired of the 'stone "i'm better than you" takes. I was referencing ok cat's language on that last post, but i'll stay out of the pit. Just tired of 'stone making fun of poor ppl and being a die hard lib. Sounds confusing. :frown:
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Very confusing
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:D
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people watch Roseanne?
yuck
also the fact that Trump hates Rosie but loves Roseanne is very interesting
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Well one is semi funny and the other one is just flat out gross. So yeah.
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‘Stone is about as liberal as they come is what I always say.
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Trump made him this way :( He legit controls so many domes.
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Wtf just happened ITT?
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Wtf just happened ITT?
Rosanne has the #1 show in America and everyone is losing their crap. :frown:
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Wtf just happened ITT?
Rosanne has the #1 show in America and everyone is losing their crap. :frown:
It's about time something beat The Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon.
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There really is some hot garbage shows out there right now. I still watch MTV programming and OMG, it's painfully awesome.
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Rosanne continues to strait up dunk on ppl.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/roseanne-has-completely-changed-tv-again-god-help-us/ar-AAxFfYM?li=BBnb7Kz
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Tough to stay on the air when you tweet crap like this:
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/389670-roseanne-barr-attacks-former-obama-adviser-in-racially-charged
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https://twitter.com/iamwandasykes/status/1001494592649342979
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Whoops
https://twitter.com/KateAurthur/status/1001520353644969984
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:lol: Congrats, snowflakes! :lol:
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Looks like The Big Bang Theory is back on top. :frown:
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:lol: Congrats, snowflakes! :lol:
So Roseanne got dunked on by snowflakes? I’m confused.
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I mean, if you whine enough, they will come. Fox will end up picking her up anyways. It's the #1 show in America.
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I mean, if you whine enough, they will come. Fox will end up picking her up anyways. It's the #1 show in America.
Calling out racism equals whining :lol:
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Tweeting out super racist things and getting your hit show cancelled to own the libs :Woot:
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I mean, if you whine enough, they will come. Fox will end up picking her up anyways. It's the #1 show in America.
Calling out racism equals whining :lol:
Legit everything is racist to libs these days. It's exhausting.
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JFC, Wacky.
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Hopefully this spells the end to sitcom TV.
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JFC, Wacky.
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:dunno:
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I never even saw what she said. Did she call him someone the N word or something? Did she hoist a decapitated head of Obama or something?
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Thoughts and Prayers Friends
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I never even saw what she said. Did she call him someone the N word or something? Did she hoist a decapitated head of Obama or something?
She told a former adviser to Barack Obama that she would be what you would get if the Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby.
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I never even saw what she said. Did she call him someone the N word or something? Did she hoist a decapitated head of Obama or something?
Then why on earth were you defending her?
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She said that if the Muslim Brotherhood and Planet if the Apes had a baby it would be Valerie Jarrett, a black woman who used to work for the Obama administration.
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I never even saw what she said. Did she call him someone the N word or something? Did she hoist a decapitated head of Obama or something?
Then why on earth were you defending her?
Typical Trump voter.
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:lol: I was defending her?
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:billdance:
I mean, if you whine enough, they will come. Fox will end up picking her up anyways. It's the #1 show in America.
Calling out racism equals whining :lol:
Legit everything is racist to libs these days. It's exhausting.
Just lib snowflakes being lib snowflakes
https://twitter.com/DewaynePerkins/status/1001494477696053248
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I'm just happy we have one less conservative show on television for some of you. Big day! :emawkid:
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:lol: I was defending her?
Yes, acting like it's just a bunch of libs overreacting in your Roseanne thread is absolutely defending her.
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I think there's a lot of hypocrisy out there, that's all.
https://twitter.com/ConsiderEric/status/1001526835757412355
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I can't believe the show was popular even in its original incarnation. It was so beige and trashy.
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hmm
Hey justanotherracistguy, go eff yourself.
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I can't believe the show was popular even in its original incarnation. It was so beige and trashy.
trashy is super popular with some people
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I think there's a lot of hypocrisy out there, that's all.
https://twitter.com/ConsiderEric/status/1001526835757412355
I don't see how that is racist.
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I think there's a lot of hypocrisy out there, that's all.
https://twitter.com/ConsiderEric/status/1001526835757412355
so ABC is anti Nazi?
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The Nuge!
https://twitter.com/TedNugent/status/1001525988612698112
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I think there's a lot of hypocrisy out there, that's all.
https://twitter.com/ConsiderEric/status/1001526835757412355
so ABC is anti Nazi?
You're missing the point, but congrats, guys!
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I think there's a lot of hypocrisy out there, that's all.
https://twitter.com/ConsiderEric/status/1001526835757412355
so ABC is anti Nazi?
You're missing the point, but congrats, guys!
I don't think he's the one missing the point.
The point was that Roseanne said something pretty blatantly racist and got her show cancelled for it. Olbermann had nothing to do with that.
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I think there's a lot of hypocrisy out there, that's all.
https://twitter.com/ConsiderEric/status/1001526835757412355
so ABC is anti Nazi?
and anti-bigot
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ah conservative humor...
the best jokes are the ones that incorporate racism and xenophobia into one nice little package
a true master of her craft
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hmm
Justanotherguy provides the worst take in yet another thread
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Can we just get some Good Old Fashion Conservative Television shows that don't star garbage human beings? Is that a possibility?
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Rosanne absolutely deserved to get canned.
But straight up LOL at ABC hiring a dude who goes zero to Godwin's Law in .03 seconds.
Too bad, I liked Keith on many issues.
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I like those blue collar comedy guys, can they have a show again?
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GIT-R-DONE!
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It's definitely time for a Jeff Foxworthy Show reboot.
Roseanne can get picked up by Fox or even Fox News.
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Tweeting out super racist things and getting your hit show cancelled to own the libs :Woot:
lol
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Roseanne can get picked up by Fox or even Fox News.
fox is in the middle of selling itself to disney.
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https://twitter.com/sportspickle/status/1001546554090708993?s=19
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I had forgotten how she made a mockery of our national anthem and used it to get attention.
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desecrating the anthem to own the libs
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Don't google the video. It is pretty hard to watch if you support or love our troops
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The planet of the apes joke is pretty funny iyam, Valerie does look like those made up people although I don’t really get the Muslim brotherhood part, anyhow it’s no more offensive than the jokes saying Trump looks like a Cheeto.
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The planet of the apes joke is pretty funny iyam, Valerie does look like those made up people although I don’t really get the Muslim brotherhood part, anyhow it’s no more offensive than the jokes saying Trump looks like a Cheeto.
Yes it is
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Does use of the phrase “cheeto” have a racist history? That might be one difference.
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Was the show planet of the apes racist
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Was the show planet of the apes racist
Comparing minorities to apes is racist
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https://entertainment.theonion.com/abc-criticized-for-unrealistic-portrayal-of-racists-act-1826403613
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Exactly!
https://twitter.com/hoarsewisperer/status/1001547469778546690?s=21
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Don’t think anyone would disagree with that.
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Exactly!
https://twitter.com/hoarsewisperer/status/1001547469778546690?s=21
Are you saying the show should’ve never come back in the first place?
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I think the point is free mkt
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I really dgaf if it did or didn't bucket. I never watched the old one.
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Was the show planet of the apes racist
Comparing minorities to apes is racist
What do you propose we do with all those racist evolution progression charts in our science books Chicat
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https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/2953571
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https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/2953571
I find it interesting that liberals push evolution as science... saying we all came from monkeys and apes but it's racist to say a person looks like or resembles a monkey or ape.
Really, we could have a txags gems thread on every pit topic.
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It's one of the more interesting looks inside the minds of trump voters
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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1001595984420491265
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comparing a celebrity calling a minority an ape to the NFL players protesting is very on brand unfortunately
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I think you read too much into it.
I only read the title
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https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/status/1001830931668393984
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Lol
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Did you really need a follow up on that one, bucket?
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https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/status/1001830931668393984
getting drug by big drug
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https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/status/1001830931668393984
getting drug by big drug
Sanofi loves the troops
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Why did Roseanne go after a former Obama cabinet member? That part doesn’t make any sense.
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Probably the same reason she thinks pizza gate was real.
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But seriously, I'm sure dax can inform you.
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Either way at least she acted like a true trumper and took full responsibility and didn't go as far as to blame a medication....
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Of her bizarre history of blog posts includes a November 2013 "Letter to Congress," in which Barr asserts the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing attack was a work of fiction designed by anti-gun advocates. In the blog post (unearthed in a Salon piece later that month), Barr writes to Congress to "stop the dictatorship initiated in the Executive Branch," referring to acts of then-President Barack Obama.
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https://twitter.com/charliesheen/status/1001532307340115968?s=20
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just so we are all clear, Rosanne is a Marxist wacko lefty (always has been) that just happens to like what Trump is doing for the blue collars.
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And is a racist who hated Obama and the Dems.
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just so we are all clear, Rosanne is a Marxist wacko lefty (always has been) that just happens to like what Trump is doing for the blue collars.
:lol:
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And is a racist who hated Obama and the Dems.
this too
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just so we are all clear, Rosanne is a Marxist wacko lefty (always has been) that just happens to like what Trump is doing for the blue collars.
You could say this about just about all republicans in 2018.
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and a pro 2A zealot who thinks the Boston bombing was fake.
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I think you read too much into it.
I only read the title
I thought it was a pretty good article.
Many conservatives are already criticizing what they will undoubtedly view as ABC's capitulation to political-correctness-run-amok, and it's easy to see how this could play directly into the right's narrative that the left is determined to silence everybody who says the wrong thing. [...]
But conservatives are already coming for people's livelihoods. Not even a week has passed since the NFL caved to pressure from conservative viewers—as well as the president himself—and banned players from kneeling during the national anthem as a protest against police violence.
And that's the problem. Conservatives won't watch football unless all the players comport themselves perfectly, rigidly adhering to the right's version of patriotic correctness. How dare you disrespect the flag, they say. Liberals don't think a television show should continue to exist if somebody central to its production does or says something super bad. How dare you traumatize our marginalized communities, they say.
This race to find more things to be offended about and more reasons to start lynch mobs doesn't seem particularly healthy for the fabric of American society, especially if right and left are determined to one-up each other on the outrage front. Many media companies will attempt to appease viewers on both sides of the ideological spectrum, and their output will be that much less interesting. I won't particularly miss Roseanne, but I do miss being able to appreciate a television show, book, or work of art, even if I thought the artist was a lunatic.
FWIW, i have no problem with Roseanne being canceled, but I don't really have a problem with what the NFL is doing either.
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Same
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https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/status/1001830931668393984
getting drug by big drug
Racism isn't a side effect. OMG.
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At least loyal trumpers will not abandon Roseanne or pretend she isn't a trumper
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I don't know a loyal Trumper, so you'll have to pinpoint one out for me. Who do you hang with?
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no such thing in his base. I was being facetious
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I think you read too much into it.
I only read the title
I thought it was a pretty good article.
Many conservatives are already criticizing what they will undoubtedly view as ABC's capitulation to political-correctness-run-amok, and it's easy to see how this could play directly into the right's narrative that the left is determined to silence everybody who says the wrong thing. [...]
But conservatives are already coming for people's livelihoods. Not even a week has passed since the NFL caved to pressure from conservative viewers—as well as the president himself—and banned players from kneeling during the national anthem as a protest against police violence.
And that's the problem. Conservatives won't watch football unless all the players comport themselves perfectly, rigidly adhering to the right's version of patriotic correctness. How dare you disrespect the flag, they say. Liberals don't think a television show should continue to exist if somebody central to its production does or says something super bad. How dare you traumatize our marginalized communities, they say.
This race to find more things to be offended about and more reasons to start lynch mobs doesn't seem particularly healthy for the fabric of American society, especially if right and left are determined to one-up each other on the outrage front. Many media companies will attempt to appease viewers on both sides of the ideological spectrum, and their output will be that much less interesting. I won't particularly miss Roseanne, but I do miss being able to appreciate a television show, book, or work of art, even if I thought the artist was a lunatic.
FWIW, i have no problem with Roseanne being canceled, but I don't really have a problem with what the NFL is doing either.
damn he makes some bold assumptions about why NFL ratings have been declining. Also calling out racists for being racist is a good thing for American society.
Equating anti-racist outrage to peaceful protest outrage is a pretty bad take, but it makes sense that people who can't see gray area would agree with it.
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looks like reading the title was sufficient.
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Equating anti-racist outrage to peaceful protest outrage is a pretty bad take, but it makes sense that people who can't see gray area would agree with it.
:rolleyes:
I don't think they're the same.
My interpretation of the article was that if we're going down this path of "rough ridin' canceled'ing" everything or everyone we deem offensive, we're going to be left with some pretty bland crap - even by network sitcom standards. I thought that was an interesting point.
He also pointed out that saying outrageous racist crap is pretty much in character for 911 truth'r/boston bombing false flag'r/hitler cosplay'r Roseanne Barr. The newest crazy offensive thing she said doesn't really say anything new about her character.
I'm not saying the guy deserves a pulitzer. I'm just saying that the article raised some interesting points.
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Equating anti-racist outrage to peaceful protest outrage is a pretty bad take, but it makes sense that people who can't see gray area would agree with it.
:rolleyes:
I don't think they're the same.
My interpretation of the article was that if we're going down this path of "rough ridin' canceled'ing" everything or everyone we deem offensive, we're going to be left with some pretty bland crap - even by network sitcom standards. I thought that was an interesting point.
yeah I guess he wasn't equating them because he really only saw negatives in Roseanne getting cancelled and did not mention any downside to football players not being allowed to protest. So he might think Roseanne's cancellation is worse.
And good grief I guarantee that there are dozens if not hundreds of sitcom ideas that would be at least as good as Roseanne and not associated with a racist. there are plenty of funny non-racists out there.
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Equating anti-racist outrage to peaceful protest outrage is a pretty bad take, but it makes sense that people who can't see gray area would agree with it.
:rolleyes:
I don't think they're the same.
My interpretation of the article was that if we're going down this path of "rough ridin' canceled'ing" everything or everyone we deem offensive, we're going to be left with some pretty bland crap - even by network sitcom standards. I thought that was an interesting point.
yeah I guess he wasn't equating them because he really only saw negatives in Roseanne getting cancelled and did not mention any downside to football players not being allowed to protest. So he might think Roseanne's cancellation is worse.
man, this article was mainly about how we should be careful about this practice of raising hell on social media about entertainers who outrage us. his invocation of the NFL thing was an example of how, notwithstanding their tendency to cry for free speech, conservatives are just as guilty as their "someone who makes me uncomfortable lib" adversaries. i agree with you that the examples he's painting with are too broad - he glosses over that some outrage may have more merit than other outrage.
for what it's worth, his article condemning the NFL's decision was last week:
Donald Trump, who won the presidency in part by promising voters he would stand against the oppression of political correctness, is now taking a victory lap after successfully pressuring the National Football League to protect the delicate feelings of its someone who makes me uncomfortable audience.
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Sadly, the NFL's bowing to Trump's whims may indeed be a win of sorts for this administration. It will please the many conservatives who routinely complain that the campus left is hypersensitive but embrace the victim role when the shoe is on the other foot.
https://reason.com/blog/2018/05/24/nfl-trump-national-anthem-free-speech (https://reason.com/blog/2018/05/24/nfl-trump-national-anthem-free-speech)
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https://twitter.com/jason_howerton/status/1002034499658698753
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She's a liberal, she's allowed to say things like that Wacks.
Plus, they have a huge hacking problem across the entirety of the Lib spectrum, apparently.
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The hypocrisy really is unreal. No one will ever talk about it, because meh, "she makes a good point".
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Post more stuff like this guys
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The hypocrisy really is unreal. No one will ever talk about it, because meh, "she makes a good point".
Every one (conservative) is a Nazi, Wacks, come on.
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Fox news girl gets water thrown on her at a restaurant, libs on twitter: "Karmas a bitch!"
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So sad. I just wish they could practice what they preach. I would probably try to listen to them then.
https://twitter.com/SonOfGodAndMan/status/1002220218402398208
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You guys should hire rainman to keep track of serious injuries to your feelings in his book
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The hypocrisy really is unreal. No one will ever talk about it, because meh, "she makes a good point".
Every one (conservative) is a Nazi, Wacks, come on.
This is no different than Wack's putting all the Lib's in the same bucket based on an idiot twitter poster
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You guys should hire rainman to keep track of serious injuries to your feelings in his book
Observations are not feelings.
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The ol Blackface routine . . . perfectly fine . . . if you're a Liberal and bash Trump.
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ABC should cancel that woman’s show
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And the water thrower should have her abc show canned. After she gets out of jail
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You guys should hire rainman to keep track of serious injuries to your feelings in his book
Observations are not feelings.
Yeah, my god, what a weird take from ole phil
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The hypocrisy really is unreal. No one will ever talk about it, because meh, "she makes a good point".
Every one (conservative) is a Nazi, Wacks, come on.
This is no different than Wack's putting all the Lib's in the same bucket based on an idiot twitter poster
Yeah, that's totally what was happening by using one example of what I was talking about.
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Equating being mean and being racist is like my new favorite thing that people who have like tlb squirrel brains do
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The hypocrisy really is unreal. No one will ever talk about it, because meh, "she makes a good point".
Every one (conservative) is a Nazi, Wacks, come on.
This is no different than Wack's putting all the Lib's in the same bucket based on an idiot twitter poster
Yeah, that's totally what was happening by using one example of what I was talking about.
You stereotype every single lib with whatever the dumbest lib you can find is doing. It's the same thing with the idiots that think every trump voter is a racist nazi. Then you call libs hypocrites for doing it which is pretty laughable since you're the epitome of it.
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Numb nuts chodecat just did the same thing above. Calling a women a c*** is pretty mumped up and now he's turned that word into "mean". I just find it hilarious that everyone, no matter what side you're on, think they have the moral compasses of saints vs the other party. Which is far from the truth.
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Equating being mean and being racist is like my new favorite thing that people who have like tlb squirrel brains do
The ol C word, it's just mean (and only anti-woman and sexist when we say it is).
Warmest Regards
LibBot deciders
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Whoever that Samantha girl is was clearly taking Ambien, not her fault.
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Equating being mean and being racist is like my new favorite thing that people who have like tlb squirrel brains do
it's a good measuring stick for sure
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Whoever that Samantha girl is was clearly taking Ambien, not her fault.
Deflecting.... :love:
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Equating being mean and being racist is like my new favorite thing that people who have like tlb squirrel brains do
The ol C word, it's just mean (and only anti-woman and sexist when we say it is).
Warmest Regards
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Yeah, nothing to see here, move along folks. Hey chodecat, call your wife the C word and see how she reacts tonight. Make sure to give us the full pbp of how it goes.
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Calling a women a C*** is probably along the same lines and feel for an African American being called the N word. But hey, you little squirrel brain idiots, she was just being mean.
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Some really weird takes from the resident LibBots and the resident fake centerist.
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Calling a women a C*** is probably along the same lines and feel for an African American being called the N word. But hey, you little squirrel brain idiots, she was just being mean.
Being neither this is an excellent insightful post.
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What if the c word was used towards Hillary.
*Mind blown*
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It's equally disgusting.
If a person hosting a show on TV were to called HC an FC, he/should would have been fired before noon today.
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Calling a women a C*** is probably along the same lines and feel for an African American being called the N word. But hey, you little squirrel brain idiots, she was just being mean.
Being neither this is an excellent insightful post.
I’ve seen fights break out when both terms were used in a vicious ignorant way and I was happy to see justice served when said POS got their asses kicked.
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But I’m just a squirrel brain that respects women and minorities, so what do I know?
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if racism isn't being mean to minorities, I guess I'm confused.
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She apologized it appears...great win guys! Should definitely still continue the C vs N word debate.
Now when will you hold the guy you voted to be president to the same level as Samantha Beeeeee, a D list cable TV person?
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It's equally disgusting.
If a person hosting a show on TV were to called HC an FC, he/should would have been fired before noon today.
So unfair. Take note of it in your serious injury log.
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Phil you seem to awfully upset this, and remember, observations are not feelings.
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I don't know the political leanings of these people, but the handful of entertainers I recall saying racist things suffered consequences initially before landing well on their feet. I'm sure Roseanne will be fine.
Mel Gibson
Michael Richards
Paula Deen
Hulk Hogan
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Phil you seem to awfully upset this, and remember, observations are not feelings.
Lol'ing at you squirrel brains getting pissed off that one comedian can say $!#* and another can't compare a black woman to a monkey has been great ...appreciate it.
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Calling a women a C*** is probably along the same lines and feel for an African American being called the N word. But hey, you little squirrel brain idiots, she was just being mean.
Dumbest thing I've heard today.
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Calling a women a C*** is probably along the same lines and feel for an African American being called the N word. But hey, you little squirrel brain idiots, she was just being mean.
Dumbest thing I've heard today.
You're not reading your own posts closely then.
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Phil you seem to awfully upset this, and remember, observations are not feelings.
Lol'ing at you squirrel brains getting pissed off that one comedian can say $!#* and another can't compare a black woman to a monkey has been great ...appreciate it.
I hadn't realized I had made those kinds of comparisons. But I get it, using a word that many consider to be the ultimate sexist, anti-woman put down is just mean and still okay (if it's directed at conservatives and a liberal woman says it).
Not a good look, Phil. But not surprising.
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Probably why Phil remains single in his mid 30's. He probably treats women rotten. :frown:
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Probably why Phil remains single in his mid 30's. He probably treats women rotten. :frown:
Wacky can't properly articulate an argument so he has to resort back to his old ways of personal attacks.
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I've articulated this quite well, you just don't like what you're reading, because you get butthurt at all things negative towards libs.
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That hasn't been stated by me or anybody else that I've seen post here. You guys love making up liberal boogeymen to fight against. It's enjoyable to watch.
Since you appear to need a direct quote...Samantha bee shouldn't not have said that. It's a disgusting thing to say to another person.
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Probably why Phil remains single in his mid 30's. He probably treats women rotten. :frown:
Triggered....how I'm not even sure....but here we are.
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Numb nuts chodecat just did the same thing above. Calling a women a c*** is pretty mumped up and now he's turned that word into "mean". I just find it hilarious that everyone, no matter what side you're on, think they have the moral compasses of saints vs the other party. Which is far from the truth.
One of my FB friends (generally lib leaning) was very upset by the use of the word $!#*. Why are people so upset just by that word? But not so upset about the use of the word pussy. They are literally the same thing.
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Numb nuts chodecat just did the same thing above. Calling a women a c*** is pretty mumped up and now he's turned that word into "mean". I just find it hilarious that everyone, no matter what side you're on, think they have the moral compasses of saints vs the other party. Which is far from the truth.
One of my FB friends (generally lib leaning) was very upset by the use of the word $!#*. Why are people so upset just by that word? But not so upset about the use of the word pussy. They are literally the same thing.
If you are using the words as a descriptor for a person, they are different.
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Calling a women a C*** is probably along the same lines and feel for an African American being called the N word. But hey, you little squirrel brain idiots, she was just being mean.
NO
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Probably why Phil remains single in his mid 30's. He probably treats women rotten. :frown:
Triggered...unsure how based on what was posted but here we are.
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https://twitter.com/ChocnessMonsta/status/1002259620780564480
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I learned at a very young age that the C word is thee most disrespectful, disgusting thing you could ever call a women. It's not just mean, it's up their with the b word for mexicans, cracker, etc.
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I learned at a very young age that the C word is thee most disrespectful, disgusting thing you could ever call a women. It's not just mean, it's up their with the b word for mexicans, cracker, etc.
Those are very strong points, Wacky.
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I learned at a very young age that the C word is thee most disrespectful, disgusting thing you could ever call a women. It's not just mean, it's up their with the b word for mexicans, cracker, etc.
See Trim's post above. Anyone can be a $!#*.
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when I first went to the UK I learned that everyone calls everyone else a $!#*. in like non-demeaning ways. they throw around the c word like crazy. it really took me by surprise but after like a day I got used to it.
disclaimer: this comment is not me entering into your downgrade argument on if this american person was being a bigot or whatever
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Lol at this being lead story on Fox news right now....must be another instance of Dax not relying on them for his talking points.
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I learned at a very young age that the C word is thee most disrespectful, disgusting thing you could ever call a women. It's not just mean, it's up their with the b word for mexicans, cracker, etc.
Those are very strong points, Wacky.
You don't think it's offensive to women? Racism is bad, being vulgar is bad, etc. Just because this case wasn't a racist case, doesn't make it any less disgusting.
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Lol at this being lead story on Fox news right now....must be another instance of Dax not relying on them for his talking points.
If the president breaks wind, it's the lead story on msnbc, so I don't see your point.
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Lol at this being lead story on Fox news right now....must be another instance of Dax not relying on them for his talking points.
If the president breaks wind, it's the lead story on msnbc, so I don't see your point.
Downshift bud...it was lol at dax.
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Sorry, I just have a hard time with some ppl acting like this isn't that big of a deal.
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Lol at this being lead story on Fox news right now....must be another instance of Dax not relying on them for his talking points.
Fox News relies on dax bro
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Also, a lot of triggered cunts in here :'bye cruel world:
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lol. Not one story on this: https://www.msn.com/
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Sorry, I just have a hard time with some ppl acting like this isn't that big of a deal.
Do you expect much when there doesn't seem to be any outrage by Trump supporters when he does similar things on Twitter and on stage.
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lol. Not one story on this: https://www.msn.com/
lol. Yes there is
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lol. Not one story on this: https://www.msn.com/
lol. Yes there is
Facts don't matter anymore.
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Have we finally got to the big reveal where Wacky has been the true victim this whole time?
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lol. Not one story on this: https://www.msn.com/
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lol. Not one story on this: https://www.msn.com/
lol. Yes there is
Facts don't matter anymore.
Yeah, looks like there is now. They rotate that scroller constantly. Not surprised it's not the first thing that pops up.
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Lot of explaining and meaningless anecdotes being thrown around in this thread by the resident LibBot apologists and the resident Fake Centerists.
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Have we finally got to the big reveal where Wacky has been the true victim this whole time?
Stop with this crap, Chings. My god. You say this crap all of the time. Some ppl go crazy over racism and i'm all for it. I go crazy over the mistreatment of females.
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lol. Not one story on this: https://www.msn.com/
lol. Yes there is
Facts don't matter anymore.
Yeah, looks like there is now. They rotate that scroller constantly. Not surprised it's not the first thing that pops up.
I am in agreement with my bud wacky in that I'm also not surprised it's not the first thing that pops up.
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lol. Not one story on this: https://www.msn.com/
lol. Yes there is
Facts don't matter anymore.
Yeah, looks like there is now. They rotate that scroller constantly. Not surprised it's not the first thing that pops up.
I am in agreement with my bud wacky in that I'm also not surprised it's not the first thing that pops up.
Lol
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https://twitter.com/ChocnessMonsta/status/1002260511499653120
https://twitter.com/ChocnessMonsta/status/1002263025389359105
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when I first went to the UK I learned that everyone calls everyone else a $!#*. in like non-demeaning ways. they throw around the c word like crazy. it really took me by surprise but after like a day I got used to it.
disclaimer: this comment is not me entering into your downgrade argument on if this american person was being a bigot or whatever
hearing UK people swear is great. especially if its in a posh accent.
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Have we finally got to the big reveal where Wacky has been the true victim this whole time?
when he was chanting "trump that bitch", it was only because the oppressive social mores imposed on conservatives forbade him from expressing what he really felt, which was "trump that $!#*".
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goddamnit. trim beat me to the punch.
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Like everyone of those rough ridin' crazy nazis are peaces of crap, I don't know how that settles the argument. I do not agree with that crap. These points are invalid.
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Is Samantha Bee Irish? I had no idea.
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Is Samantha Bee Irish? I had no idea.
She's from Canada.
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:bwpopcorn:
btw n word is way worse than c word
vulgarity on par with a-hole / f word
not even comparable imo
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That's like your opinion, man. If you wanna do a test, call a girl an bad person and then call her the C word and see which reaction is greater.
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That's like your opinion, man. If you wanna do a test, call a girl an bad person and then call her the C word and see which reaction is greater.
Back to back? Yeah my money is she gets madder
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Man Scott baio better watch his back around wacky
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:rolleyes:
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Would have been worse if a man called her a $!#* imo
Food for thought
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That's like your opinion, man. If you wanna do a test, call a girl an bad person and then call her the C word and see which reaction is greater.
yes hence the imo statement.
However if i am calling someone a cvnt it is because of an issue i take with the person and the way they choose to conduct themself.
If i call someone a n word it would be a reflection on there race and not a pattern of conduct.
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I'd rather be called a $!#* than a dick.
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lol. Not one story on this: https://www.msn.com/
lol. Yes there is
Facts don't matter anymore.
Yeah, looks like there is now. They rotate that scroller constantly. Not surprised it's not the first thing that pops up.
I am in agreement with my bud wacky in that I'm also not surprised it's not the first thing that pops up.
Ditto. No surprise
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This is so true.
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1002282532518350848
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1002275793119121408
@Dugout DickStone get in here
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Well, Ted Nugent is still a regular on Fox News (a cast member, really), so there goes that theory.
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when I first went to the UK I learned that everyone calls everyone else a $!#*. in like non-demeaning ways. they throw around the c word like crazy. it really took me by surprise but after like a day I got used to it.
disclaimer: this comment is not me entering into your downgrade argument on if this american person was being a bigot or whatever
I have an Aussie friend who has been here for a while and had a recently transplanted Aussie over for a party and the number one topic was lamenting not being able to call people cunts in work meetings. :lol:
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This is so true.
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1002282532518350848
Obama's daughters were children when he was in office and not presidential advisers directly affecting policy....
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1002275793119121408
@Dugout DickStone get in here
I’m not surprised msm not reporting that on front page at top
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Well, you're in luck, 'stone. They already rotated the Samantha B story out again and more Trump crap is on the first scroll. :Woot:
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I've gotta admit tho, "The hilarious tattoos they definitely regret" gets my click baiting ass every time when I see it on the scroll. :eye:
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Well, you're in luck, 'stone. They already rotated the Samantha B story out again and more Trump crap is on the first scroll. :Woot:
I'm not surprised that the President of the United States is making front page news.
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:rolleyes: That site is trash and you know it.
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:rolleyes: That site is trash and you know it.
Add Nugent to your butt kicking list for his treatment of women wacky.
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I rough ridin' hate that guy, Phil.
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That she's a major league $!#*.
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I think my favorite thing about Chings having a major hard on for me is I have like 50,000 posts on this blog and he’s used his whole afternoon to dig through all of my posts to prove I’ve been a bad person before. ‘Grats, weirdo!
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I like it when chings outs hypocrites too
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This is a surprising turn of events.
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10's upon 10's of Ted Nugent fans out there.
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Need a bit more context there, but I'm thinking of calling this one...
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There’s a reason he didn’t put the context there. He’s also altered my posts in the past as well, so this doesn’t mean crap.
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Chings, have you or have you not taken over my account before, changed my posts, added sig lines, etc.? All because I enrage the crap out of you.
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I have never "taken over account" or changed the content of your posts. I have added material to your signature that was 100% content you posted.
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Lol
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Have you ever altered stuff on my account?
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Are you officially denying the $!#* post?
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A bunch of men in here with opinions...smdh
It seems clear that if Wacky's analogy is apt, it is okay via the transitive property for a woman to call another woman a $!#*, but us men shouldn't.
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Yes the signature as I mentioned.
If it makes you feel better to pretend that you didn't post that I understand.
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That she's a major league $!#*.
Holy crap
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Are you officially denying the $!#* post?
I don’t even know where that post is from, but sure, apparently I did, but I must have been on ambien. It reflects negatively of me tho, because I’m very much against that word. So yes, I’m a hypocrite if I posted that.
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Yes the signature as I mentioned.
If it makes you feel better to pretend that you didn't post that I understand.
I honestly don’t care, chings. I’ll own my crap. Thanks for owning that I like be in your dome enough for you to eff with my account and create Wacky’s World just because I don’t share the same opinions.
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I mean you didn't even get banned for that. Why don't you call mir the N word and find out if that's different or nah
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That she's a major league $!#*.
Holy crap
Are you gonna own calling a female the C word is bad chodecat or are you just gonna pivot like you always do?
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I mean you didn't even get banned for that. Why don't you call mir the N word and find out if that's different or nah
You’re such a rough ridin' downgrade. I’ve made a valid point today, but you all are so far up each others asses, you can’t take a second to reflect the issue.
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Wacky World is your safe spot, you are pretty easily triggered and needed it.
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I’m also a poster on a message board, not a rough ridin' left wing hack, that insults the president of the United States for a living.
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Have we finally got to the big reveal where Wacky has been the true victim this whole time?
Creeping up to it I think
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Wacky World is your safe spot, you are pretty easily triggered and needed it.
Nice tap out. You should rename the pit, libtard world or something where everyone has to agree with each other on things or I’ll send you packing.
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Have we finally got to the big reveal where Wacky has been the true victim this whole time?
Creeping up to it I think
Deflecting!
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Have we finally got to the big reveal where Wacky has been the true victim this whole time?
Creeping up to it I think
Also, lol at a mod admitting he’s hacked a posters account many times and then spewing this hot garbage take.
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he's on a heater!!!!
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Read the rough ridin' thread, Phil
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It seems you still don't understand Wacky's World and how it works.
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also i have no problem with calling someone a cvnt if it is with merit
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don't throw it around lightly, but when the shoe fits...
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Read the rough ridin' thread, Phil
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I deleted it...sorry for my delay in keeping up with this fast moving development.
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Equating being mean and being racist is like my new favorite thing that people who have like tlb squirrel brains do
it's a good measuring stick for sure
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Yup. It’s true. I was talking about Kacie McDonnel or whatever her last name is. Guilty as charged. I do dislike jersey chasers and was ambushed that day for my take, so I’ll take this one on the chin. Chings, fire me from gE. I’m a disgusting human being.
Mocat, word of advice, stop side stepping crap, coward.
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Wacks i have no idea what you're talking about m8
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also i have no problem with calling someone a cvnt if it is with merit
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don't throw it around lightly, but when the shoe fits...
hypocrisy is almost always a stupid argument. it's easy, it's fun, it gets attention, but it's stupid.
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as has clearly been established you should not be fired for using the term cvnt
now some of the racist stuff you've said.?.
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In defense of WC, he was only passing along that he had heard someone else claim she was a MLC. In that respect, is he any more guilty than the scores of anchors and journalists reporting on the Samantha Bee kerfuffle?
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also i have no problem with calling someone a cvnt if it is with merit
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don't throw it around lightly, but when the shoe fits...
hypocrisy is almost always a stupid argument. it's cheap, it's fun, it gets attention, but it's stupid.
It's a terrible argument, but people rough ridin' love it. It only takes a tiny bit of thought to see how untenable it usually is.
Tu quoque is the currency of the pit.
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Mocat, you were downplaying the C word like it wouldn’t warrant it being an issue, just because you don’t want to shy away from the racist rosanne issue. I know you have too much pride to ever own up to something so idiotic, but you do you.
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I said it was mean
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Why would I on purpose be mean to my wife? That would be idiotic man
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$!#* is perfectly acceptable IMO, it’s basically a heirarchy above bitch that signifies you are dealing with a higher level of unpleasantness. It’s not exclusive to women either.
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as has clearly been established you should not be fired for using the term cvnt
now some of the racist stuff you've said.?.
I called Kap a mixed breed who’s throwing his other half under the bus. It was an ignorant post. I’ve never and will never be racist. Pretty sure about only 50% of my friends are white. I’ve been in fights before to back friends at K-State for hayseeds saying racist crap to my friends. I know I come off like a jackass on this board for trying to play down the middle, but I can assure you I’m a very good person IRL. It’s very easy to say stupid crap on this board and for it to turn into a show.
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In defense of WC, he was only passing along that he had heard someone else claim she was a MLC. In that respect, is he any more guilty than the scores of anchors and journalists reporting on the Samantha Bee kerfuffle?
Yes, if you read that thread, I was totally passing on the news, but again, facts, who cares. Ty for this btw.
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In Wacky's defense, I think at the time, the Kap post clearly was an ignorant rather that an intentionally racist one. I think he followed up questioning why mixed breed was a racist term.
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I think we can all agree that mistakes were made.
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In defense of WC, he was only passing along that he had heard someone else claim she was a MLC. In that respect, is he any more guilty than the scores of anchors and journalists reporting on the Samantha Bee kerfuffle?
Yes, if you read that thread, I was totally passing on the news, but again, facts, who cares. Ty for this btw.
Keep doing you, fam.
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Tu quoque is the currency of the pit.
i did not know this term.
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it’s basically a hierarchy above bitch that signifies you are dealing with a higher level of unpleasantness.
that is not my understanding of the term. in my mind, they have slightly different connotations, but no difference in intensity. usually, i would say, the choice of either term would provide more information about the issuer than the subject.
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also it’s more fun to use as an adjective. That dude is really cunty vs that dude is really bitchy
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In Wacky's defense, I think at the time, the Kap post clearly was an ignorant rather that an intentionally racist one. I think he followed up questioning why mixed breed was a racist term.
Yes, thank you.I think we can all agree that mistakes were made.
100%
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I say $!#* regularly :dunno:
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I personally don't have a problem with using that word on here and at the same time thinking a person in the public eye should get a rash of crap for using it towards someone who they weren't even engaging with directly on a topic....but the thread was fun.
Keep your chin up wacky.
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I say $!#* regularly :dunno:
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yeah, it's like the mother of all non-racist vulgarities according to a good number of people in the USA but in other english speaking countries it barely registers and is more a term of endearment.
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Worlds colliding!
He's holding a white power rally in Arizona tonight
That's crazy. Sergio encountered some racist Arizona lady at a bar after work yesterday and it went left and ended with him calling her a $!#*, and then he came over to PAK.
Pete and I called #oscar a $!#*!
Odds are we'll get more favorable refs next year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PjIp8ue5E0
He really does come off as a rough ridin' $!#*, doesn't he? But he's OUR rough ridin' $!#*!
I expect us to exceed expectations of a rough ridin' $!#*-led team next year.
The word
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Tu quoque is the currency of the pit.
i did not know this term.
if chingon started a weekly (daily?) latin phrase thread i would read it
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annuit cœptis
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semper ubi sub ubi :Keke:
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:surprised:
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annuit cœptis
before i looked it up, i was guessing it was something like crap year.
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This thread has gotten pretty intense. I might need to take a break.
See you next Tuesday.
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Heading seaward?
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/353322885688987650
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/353322885688987650
Something about dat y tho
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yeah, in case you were worried about the root word meaning
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/cunty
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Like everyone of those rough ridin' crazy nazis are peaces of crap, I don't know how that settles the argument. I do not agree with that crap. These points are invalid.
oh my :love:
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Fascinating thread.
Really outed a lot of LibBots. No need to explain guys, you can get away with saying anything.
Hell, we got a gay bashing MSNBC host who is still employed hiding behind "she was hacked". No need to keep explaining, you guys have a free run.
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Feckless $!#*
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Like everyone of those rough ridin' crazy nazis are peaces of crap, I don't know how that settles the argument. I do not agree with that crap. These points are invalid.
oh my :love:
oh man, you’re doing this?
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A couple posts ago it was like an evening at the Apollo when everyone was piling on WC without checking the context of the quoted $!#* post, but now it's quiet as a church.
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Wacks IRL https://youtu.be/1TGJ7LnIQCo
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Am I legit crazy for giving another view point? I know conservatives are afraid to do so these days, but my god. It was a harmless take. Night, friends.
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Wacks IRL https://youtu.be/1TGJ7LnIQCo
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also i have no problem with calling someone a cvnt if it is with merit
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don't throw it around lightly, but when the shoe fits...
hypocrisy is almost always a stupid argument. it's cheap, it's fun, it gets attention, but it's stupid.
It's a terrible argument, but people rough ridin' love it. It only takes a tiny bit of thought to see how untenable it usually is.
Tu quoque is the currency of the pit.
No one uses hypocrisy as an argument. It is a device to undermine your opponent’s credibility by suggesting they don’t actually believe what they are saying.
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Lol
https://twitter.com/driverminnie/status/1002270163058610176
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I lost track, who has the high road now?
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It is a device to undermine your opponent’s credibility by suggesting they don’t actually believe what they are saying.
that's an argument.
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It is a device to undermine your opponent’s credibility by suggesting they don’t actually believe what they are saying.
that's an argument.
In my world an argument is something you use to support the truth or falsity of a claim. If we're conflating that with undermining your opponent's credibility then hypocrisy is typically a fantastic argument as long as it pointing out the hypocrisy of your opponent and not the hypocrisy of some nebulous mass of people that you lump your opponent into.
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the fact that portraying your counterpart as a hypocrite does nothing to support or falsify the truth of their position is (part of) why it's a really stupid argument.
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Argumentum ad hominem
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Argumentum ad hominem
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I think there's a difference between pointing out that somebody's point of view is logically inconsistent and pointing out that they act inconsistently with their argument.
We all act inconsistently with our principles or genuinely held beliefs fairly often.
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there's a difference between pointing out that somebody's point of view is logically inconsistent and pointing out that they act inconsistently with their argument.
absolutely there is.
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i think it's ok to point out the former (logical inconsistencies) but the latter (personally acting inconsistent with your professed POV) is mostly bogus.
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https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1002340417373917184
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Just posted it since everyone is debating hypocrisy.
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People typically do distinguish between arguments that are valid and not valid. A valid argument is one in which the truth of the conclusion is a logical consequence of the truth of the premises. Since fallacies fail to meet this criterion, they're thought of as arguments that are not valid.
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the fact that portraying your counterpart as a hypocrite does nothing to support or falsify the truth of their position is (part of) why it's a really stupid argument.
And that’s why I said it’s not an argument at all. It’s an attack on your opponent’s credibility which happens to be very effective in most cases.
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Just posted it since everyone is debating hypocrisy.
And that’s an example of using it poorly, cause they’re just saying “hypocrisy of the left.” It’s meaningless.
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And that’s why I said it’s not an argument at all. It’s an attack on your opponent’s credibility which happens to be very effective in most cases.
a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong.
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And that’s an example of using it poorly, cause they’re just saying “hypocrisy of the left.” It’s meaningless.
that's the least of reasons (though still a good reason).
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https://twitter.com/krangtnelson/status/1002538410802860032?s=21
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And that’s why I said it’s not an argument at all. It’s an attack on your opponent’s credibility which happens to be very effective in most cases.
a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong.
Sure I think that definition is broad enough to include allegations of hypocrisy, but it’s also broad enough to include things like credentials which typically aren’t thought of as arguments.
If we’re debating the merits of the individual mandate and I have significant experience in health insurance financing/underwriting, I will mention that with the aim that people will find me more credible and hence my opinions more persuasive. I consider accusations of hypocrisy to be along the same lines. I consider neither to be an “argument” even though they’re both ultimately intended to persuade.
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Agree completely with catastrophe's line of thought.
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Sure I think that definition is broad enough to include allegations of hypocrisy, but it’s also broad enough to include things like credentials which typically aren’t thought of as arguments.
If we’re debating the merits of the individual mandate and I have significant experience in health insurance financing/underwriting, I will mention that with the aim that people will find me more credible and hence my opinions more persuasive. I consider accusations of hypocrisy to be along the same lines. I consider neither to be an “argument” even though they’re both ultimately intended to persuade.
argumentum ad verecundiam (also known as: argument from authority, ipse dixit). Description: Insisting that a claim is true simply because a valid authority or expert on the issue said it was true, without any other supporting evidence offered.
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I guess we are disagreeing on what the definition of "argument" is.
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It appears that way. And since sys found fancy latin term for his side I think I lost :frown:
Although it really just becomes circular at some point. If appealing to credibility is considered an argument, and if you agree that people really seem to go nuts over hypocrisy allegations, then it seems logically inconsistent to call it a bad argument.
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since sys found fancy latin term for his side I think I lost :frown:
argumentum ad latinum. another fallacy, i'm afraid.
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https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy
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:Wha:
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https://twitter.com/briiilliant/status/1003500869696958464
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can't really blame those poor arseholes - they have no shot at winning at Fortnite playing on a console
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can't really blame those poor arseholes - they have no shot at winning at Fortnite playing on a console
I've gotten plenty of victory royales on console.
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https://twitter.com/StorytellerMatt/status/1006829092983984130
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Your obsession with random people is unsettling, dude.
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:ROFL:
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Who's dunked on 'stone the hardest? Trump vs the nfl, trump vs NK, or 'stone vs Fitz's lawyer who made him change his twitter handle to "not a real person"? :lol:
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:D
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amaze. two weeks and this is the result.
https://twitter.com/therealroseanne/status/1007097503592824833
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:lol:
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"ppl"
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I like that she's basically calling everyone who stood up for her initial comment an idiot.
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She’s old and white and from Utah it’s shocking that she is racist
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amaze. two weeks and this is the result.
https://twitter.com/therealroseanne/status/1007097503592824833
Pretty heavy analysis for someone super drunk and popping pills
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https://twitter.com/GMA/status/1009957588878884864
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The Ranch's new season is on Netflix right now and it's pretty great. :cheers:
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:Woohoo:
https://twitter.com/LastManStanding/status/1012393803783651329
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https://twitter.com/CharlesMBlow/status/1020294936023961601
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She's obviously mentally ill and I don't think that part of it is funny anymore.
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Very sad that people didn't understand the complex social commentary she was trying to convey.
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She's a typical Trump supporter (not a typical Trump voter).
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:excited:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/gallery/fall-tv%E2%80%99s-10-biggest-winners-and-losers/ss-BBOAQMq?li=BBnb7Kz#image=5
Winner: Last Man Standing (Fox)
There’s nothing quite like getting publicly dumped only to rebound with a far better relationship. Tim Allen’s sitcom is getting its best ratings in years on Fridays (averaging 8 million viewers) and easily ranking as the night’s top show — why, in the adult demo it’s averaging only a tenth of a point behind ABC’s Modern Family.
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modern family's still on the air? holy crap
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Yeah, kinda weird.
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I didn't even know networks put new programming on Friday evenings
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They do when it’s a super successful show. Most conservatives are home with their kids TGIF’ing it up with the fam. #Merica
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Yeah, good for them, sounds like they found an audience