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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kso_FAN on March 14, 2017, 11:14:16 PM
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As noted, Wake's defense was bad and we destroyed it (outside of silly turnovers). Seniors stepped up and we move on to Sacramento and a date with Cinci. I don't care who your are, even in a play in, winning in March is fun.
Go Cats.
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This was K-State's best eFG% since before kenpom (at least the last 16 seasons). :surprised:
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So many layups, it's unfortunate we shot so many 3s.
Best 3 hr game I've seen in a while
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We were 18-21 at one point on 2pt. Finished 25-31.
Early in the 2nd half, we were up 57-47. We scored points on 26 of the 32 Possession we didn't commit a TO (we had 11 TOs) They couldn't stop us unless we gave the ball away
FAN has to be just :Woot: at the 72% eFG, and making 3/4 of our FTs on 77% FTR.
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even in a play in, winning in March is fun
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I thought the refs did an admirable job keeping this game close. The offensive foul on ervin when he got tackled with the ball was superb.
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I liked it too _fan go cats
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I found myself enjoying this game very much. Watching with my Cincy bro on Friday.
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I thought the refs did an admirable job keeping this game close. The offensive foul on ervin when he got tackled with the ball was superb.
That was some of the worst officiating I've ever seen and Kellogg trying to justify some of the calls was even worse.
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This made me very happy tonight. Some of the calls were very wtf. Collins didn't impress me much.
Seniors stepped up big. I said in the second half that Wes wasn't going to let us lose.
Gonna need more Wade next game.
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I thought the refs did an admirable job keeping this game close. The offensive foul on ervin when he got tackled with the ball was superb.
If you pivot into the screen it is always a foul.
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I thought the refs did an admirable job keeping this game close. The offensive foul on ervin when he got tackled with the ball was superb.
That was some of the worst officiating I've ever seen and Kellogg trying to justify some of the calls was even worse.
I enjoyed our scramble offense that led to myriad layups more than anything, but the embarassment of riches supplied by those refs was tough to overcome.
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I thought the refs did an admirable job keeping this game close. The offensive foul on ervin when he got tackled with the ball was superb.
If you pivot into the screen it is always a foul.
He had the ball.
And wake forests mongoloid forwards slid into screens twice a possession for 72 possessions without once getting called.
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Wake hit a 3 to cut the lead to 64-62 with just 10 minutes to go.....
All we did rest of the game is go 6-7FG with 2 3pt. Our 1 miss we got the OR. We hit 15-22 FTs with only 1 TO.
31 Pts in final 18 Possessions. That's how you close
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Wake hit a 3 to cut the lead to 64-62 with just 10 minutes to go.....
All we did rest of the game is go 6-7FG with 2 3pt. Our 1 miss we got the OR. We hit 15-22 FTs with only 1 TO.
31 Pts in final 18 Possessions. That's how you close
That's crazy.
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I thought the refs did an admirable job keeping this game close. The offensive foul on ervin when he got tackled with the ball was superb.
We benefited from one of the most egregious incorrect calls in the replay era and you're still staying on brand with the officials.
Did they not see that dude literally touch the ball when he swiped at it while laying on the ground?
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I thought the refs did an admirable job keeping this game close. The offensive foul on ervin when he got tackled with the ball was superb.
We benefited from one of the most egregious incorrect calls in the replay era and you're still staying on brand with the officials.
Did they not see that dude literally touch the ball when he swiped at it while laying on the ground?
That's fair, but it felt like the majority of the game was pretty ridiculous. I was even complaining openly about the officials which I rarely do; several of the "moving screens" they called on us (compared to what Wake was doing on their end) were just terrible officiating. I truly think if we had typical officiating that we see in a Big 12 game we probably win that game by 20.
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I thought the refs did an admirable job keeping this game close. The offensive foul on ervin when he got tackled with the ball was superb.
We benefited from one of the most egregious incorrect calls in the replay era and you're still staying on brand with the officials.
Did they not see that dude literally touch the ball when he swiped at it while laying on the ground?
That's fair, but it felt like the majority of the game was pretty ridiculous. I was even complaining openly about the officials which I rarely do; several of the "moving screens" they called on us (compared to what Wake was doing on their end) were just terrible officiating. I truly think if we had typical officiating that we see in a Big 12 game we probably win that game by 20.
Agreed, we didn't play the best defense, especially in the second half, but that first half shouldn't have ended with us up by only 4. WF was basically apathetic and down right giving no effs about guarding anything inside of 6 feet of the basket. We were at least giving them a defensive challenge, even if we got caught a few times on 3 pt defense. WF was constantly getting bailed out with rather ticky tack fouls, at least to their credit they hit their fts.
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I thought the refs did an admirable job keeping this game close. The offensive foul on ervin when he got tackled with the ball was superb.
We benefited from one of the most egregious incorrect calls in the replay era and you're still staying on brand with the officials.
Did they not see that dude literally touch the ball when he swiped at it while laying on the ground?
If we would have grabbed a Wake Forest player like that they probably would have ejected our player.
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one thing is for certain, danny manning is a shitty coach
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I thought the refs did an admirable job keeping this game close. The offensive foul on ervin when he got tackled with the ball was superb.
We benefited from one of the most egregious incorrect calls in the replay era and you're still staying on brand with the officials.
Did they not see that dude literally touch the ball when he swiped at it while laying on the ground?
I'm surprised it wasn't just a common foul, but I've seen worse calls. When you look at it in slow motion it sure looks like he swipes at the ball, just grazes it but fails to have an impact, and then for a split second out of instinct/frustration actually grabbed (like, got four fingers around) the ankle.
Like I said, it happened fast enough it's hard to tell intent, but I'm pretty sure that's what the refs were thinking (probably on top of the fact that they owed KSU at that point).
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one thing is for certain, danny manning is a shitty coach
With the numbers we put up it makes you wonder if they practice defense, like, at all.
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Collin's level of play in that game, for me, forever debunked the myth that Danny Manning is a great "bigs" coach.
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Collin's level of play in that game, for me, forever debunked the myth that Danny Manning is a great "bigs" coach.
He led all scorers dipshit
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one thing is for certain, danny manning is a shitty coach
With the numbers we put up it makes you wonder if they practice defense, like, at all.
They gave up over 1.20 points per possession 9 times this year. We were their 4th worst defensive game, when they played Villanova they gave up 1.54 ppp and against Duke gave up 1.46 ppp. :horrorsurprise:
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Collin's level of play in that game, for me, forever debunked the myth that Danny Manning is a great "bigs" coach.
He led all scorers dipshit
He is a great offensive player, no doubt, but his defense was awful.
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Collin's level of play in that game, for me, forever debunked the myth that Danny Manning is a great "bigs" coach.
He led all scorers dipshit
On dunks and free throws. He knows how to get point but aside from 2 turn around jumpers, he did nothing.
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Collin's level of play in that game, for me, forever debunked the myth that Danny Manning is a great "bigs" coach.
He led all scorers dipshit
On dunks and free throws. He knows how to get point but aside from 2 turn around jumpers, he did nothing.
that's a dumb argument.. he's a power forward
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He is athletic and can jump high. Having set plays run to get you alley oops. Pretty sure all his dunks were alley oops. Doesnt make you a good player. He definitely has upside. But making free throws and getting alley oops doesn't make you a good player imo.
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Alley oops are an indictment on the defense, not evidence of good play. Again imo
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I guess what I'm saying is that he was hyped up quite a bit. Some saying he was the best big in the country. That's not what I saw.
Felt like we were playing Aggies again and all I heard was about Garrett and he didnt impress.
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I guess what I'm saying is that he was hyped up quite a bit. Some saying he was the best big in the country. That's not what I saw.
Felt like we were playing Aggies again and all I heard was about Garrett and he didnt impress.
He is really good. Great feet, soft hands and silky smooth for a sophomore. Not sure what you were looking at.
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Maybe I don't know what I'm looking at. I'll accept that. Go cats
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imo, dunking a lot means youre a pretty good player. very high percentage shot.
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imo, dunking a lot means youre a pretty good player. very high percentage shot.
You're right. Shaq was great.
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imo, dunking a lot means youre a pretty good player. very high percentage shot.
You're right. Shaq was great.
couldn't hit his free throws though ;)
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imo, dunking a lot means youre a pretty good player. very high percentage shot.
You're right. Shaq was great.
couldn't hit his free throws though ;)
Also created his own dunks and didn't need set plays to get them. ;)
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but yeah if you're built like shaq you can usually create your own dunks
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I agree. Great post position. Great lob. Didn't have to run from the weak side behind defenders who weren't paying attention. Great body that guy was born with.
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Collin's level of play in that game, for me, forever debunked the myth that Danny Manning is a great "bigs" coach.
He led all scorers dipshit
All those KSU points in the paint, tho. Maybe you missed that--I thought the job of bigs was to stop that. Even the pro-WF leotard announcers picked up on that, but guess you didn't.
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I thought the refs did an admirable job keeping this game close. The offensive foul on ervin when he got tackled with the ball was superb.
We benefited from one of the most egregious incorrect calls in the replay era and you're still staying on brand with the officials.
Did they not see that dude literally touch the ball when he swiped at it while laying on the ground?
I had no problem with that call. Grabbing somebody's ankle while they are jumping is very dangerous. You are a lot more likely to injure somebody like that than you are by accidentally hitting them in the head area.
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He was the top professional prospect on the floor. Clearly a skilled big. A sophomore, playing in a program that demands, evidently, zero defensive intensity. Even in the first half, where he was less effective, the guy had 8 and 4.
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Collin's level of play in that game, for me, forever debunked the myth that Danny Manning is a great "bigs" coach.
He led all scorers dipshit
All those KSU points in the paint, tho. Maybe you missed that--I thought the job of bigs was to stop that. Even the pro-WF leotard announcers picked up on that, but guess you didn't.
I'm sorry it doesn't fit your agenda but he was an unrated 3 star and is a projected 1st round draft pick after his sophomore year.
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I know the stats seems to say otherwise, but from an "eye test" point of view I was underwhelmed with Collins. He was a traditional post up and rebound player, which fits the bill. . .but isn't that impressive from a NBA potential stand point. It seemed to me the majority of his points came on fast breaks, put backs, and free throws. He never appeared to have the ability to create points on his own.
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I know the stats seems to say otherwise, but from an "eye test" point of view I was underwhelmed with Collins. He was a traditional post up and rebound player, which fits the bill. . .but isn't that impressive from a NBA potential stand point. It seemed to me the majority of his points came on fast breaks, put backs, and free throws. He never appeared to have the ability to create points on his own.
I agree with this. I was expecting to see something more like a Beasley, but he just looked like a really good college player to me.
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I know the stats seems to say otherwise, but from an "eye test" point of view I was underwhelmed with Collins. He was a traditional post up and rebound player, which fits the bill. . .but isn't that impressive from a NBA potential stand point. It seemed to me the majority of his points came on fast breaks, put backs, and free throws. He never appeared to have the ability to create points on his own.
I agree with this. I was expecting to see something more like a Beasley, but he just looked like a really good college player to me.
I think there are certain constraints put on him in their offense that keep him in the traditional post up mold. From what I saw, I think he probably can develop the type of individual offensive skills you'd want to see in a lottery pick.