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Title: Line of succession thread
Post by: Kat Kid on December 05, 2016, 03:15:33 PM
As many of you know, I am the first born son of a second son, but I have risen above my station in life through clever maneuvering and a strategic and prosperous alliance with my wife.

Having sired three boys and with the oldest now readying for his proper schooling and having survived the ravages of his first 3 winters, my thoughts turn to the future.  While my seed has been strong enough to all but guarantee my name will survive, to strengthen and consolidate my family's power, I will need to ensure that no mistakes or stupidity on the part of my progeny spoils our good name.

For those who have not yet produced an heir, what are you doing today to ensure that you pass on your kingdom to your flesh and blood?

A few other questions:

1) what is your line of succession looking like?  any potential rivals within your family? 
2) what are your plans for your second sons?  military service?  eyes on the papacy?
3) how have you marginalized any bastards or potential claimants from relatives that threaten your claim?
4) what will you look for when finding a match for your heir?  (strong house, wealth, wit?)
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 05, 2016, 03:29:52 PM
I honestly haven't given it much thought kk
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Kat Kid on December 05, 2016, 03:30:51 PM
I honestly haven't given it much thought kk

your ancestors will curse you for all eternity
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Tobias on December 05, 2016, 03:32:18 PM
i have a male breeder sibling so it should be all good
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 05, 2016, 03:35:21 PM
First born son of a second son but I'm the oldest cousin. Does that make any difference for my planning?
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: mocat on December 05, 2016, 03:50:29 PM
i am also the 1st son of a 2nd son  :eek:
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: OK_Cat on December 05, 2016, 03:56:28 PM
Alas, I am but a first born son of a second son. I have spent years planning to foil my two older male cousins and take my rightful spot upon the family name.

I have only a daughter, though, so I am preparing in advance to wed her to a son of a wealthy family.


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Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Kat Kid on December 05, 2016, 03:59:27 PM
First born son of a second son but I'm the oldest cousin. Does that make any difference for my planning?

If you can still pin down your cousins with a better claim and do the "uncle" thing you should be good.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Kat Kid on December 05, 2016, 03:59:41 PM
i have a male breeder sibling so it should be all good

cucked
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 05, 2016, 04:00:01 PM
My grandpa was the youngest of 10 and I think some of his brothers are alive so really I think I'm just mumped
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: 8manpick on December 05, 2016, 04:00:11 PM
I am a first born son of a second born son as well. Unfortunately, the first born son of the first born son already has a first born son.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Tobias on December 05, 2016, 04:21:20 PM
what does the whole first born son of a second son thing do for you or your lineage or whatever?
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: pissclams on December 05, 2016, 04:23:07 PM
what does the whole first born son of a second son thing do for you or your lineage or whatever?

it's some game of thrones crap, bro.  don't worry about these fools.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Tobias on December 05, 2016, 04:23:38 PM
oh, i quit watching that
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 05, 2016, 04:24:31 PM
I am the 2nd son of a first son. My older brother will not procreate, but he did marry into having a bastard without his genes underneath him and without his name. I believe this gives me the throne, right? Either way, our name comes down to me.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: sys on December 05, 2016, 05:15:08 PM
kk, i've actually been thinking a lot about my legacy in recent weeks.  as you know, i've eschewn the production of children, leaving me heirless.  what, then, to do with my estate?  it rests heavily on my mind.  i would not have it used in support of causes i despise, or to lessen the burden of individuals to whom god justly granted those very burdens.  it distresses.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 05, 2016, 05:16:21 PM
I'll take it sys
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: sys on December 05, 2016, 05:17:21 PM
I'll take it sys

i will think on it.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 05, 2016, 05:31:53 PM
OK, I don't need it so feel free to factor that in
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: sys on December 05, 2016, 05:44:07 PM
how long do you plan on living?
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 05, 2016, 05:45:15 PM
Hmm, probably not as long as other people, but not short either. Medium I guess
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: CNS on December 05, 2016, 05:45:30 PM
Sys, don't do anything with it and let someone else figure it out. 
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 05, 2016, 05:46:29 PM
I'm also significantly younger than you sys so lifetimes should be OK
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: sys on December 05, 2016, 05:55:33 PM
i wouldn't want to shift my burden to you in the years when you should be enjoying respite from your life's work.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: CNS on December 05, 2016, 06:31:17 PM
Sys, make 3 wills.  All dated the same day, but all different.  Each of the three leaving everything to a diff one of your three least fav posters.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: cfbandyman on December 05, 2016, 06:34:44 PM
i am also the 1st son of a 2nd son  :eek:

same  :sdeek:

Also the oldest son (dad's older bro) is gay so I guess it comes down biologically to my dad.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 05, 2016, 06:42:16 PM
Looking at the maternal side of the family, I'm a first son of a second daughter, no sons. Also the oldest cousin. Is my claim better here?
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: wetwillie on December 05, 2016, 06:52:01 PM
First son of a first son.  Had two sons just in case.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 05, 2016, 07:25:44 PM
Second son of a first son here.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 05, 2016, 08:24:13 PM
My dad is giving his estate to the Nature Conservancy.  That's a real life thing that is happening. 
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 05, 2016, 08:31:55 PM
That's nice Emo.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: kim carnes on December 05, 2016, 08:39:28 PM
My dad is giving his estate to the Nature Conservancy.  That's a real life thing that is happening.

Like, he is giving everything he has to them and not you?
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 05, 2016, 09:10:57 PM
My dad is giving his estate to the Nature Conservancy.  That's a real life thing that is happening.

Like, he is giving everything he has to them and not you?

That is how I understand it, yes. 
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: sys on December 05, 2016, 09:14:55 PM
that really sucks, emo.  if you'd like, you can make a deal with him to give it to you and i will give mine to the nature conservancy (legit real offer).
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 05, 2016, 09:31:49 PM
It's fine.  He thinks giving anything to me would be enabling me to be a loser or something, wants me to earn everything on my own (aside from what my white privilege affords me of course).
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: sys on December 05, 2016, 09:36:51 PM
parents like that are rough ridin' idiots.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: kim carnes on December 05, 2016, 10:09:14 PM
He's probably just messing with you
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 05, 2016, 10:33:18 PM
I'm their only hope for any shred of proof that they may have been good parents.  I can see the desperation in their logic.  Or logic in their desperation.  Whichever. 
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Kat Kid on December 05, 2016, 10:38:08 PM
Maternally, I am the first son of a first daughter.

Emo- that is hard to hear.  Why do you like nature so much?  I would hate it.  Why don't you try building a parking lot in the middle of some acreage just to see how it feels?


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Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Tobias on December 05, 2016, 10:53:14 PM
why didn't your parents raise you/set you loose in juarez for a proper level of #adversity
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Tobias on December 05, 2016, 10:56:27 PM
"i will fondly remember gpa emo, who legend tells roamed the streets armed with only a diaper and a slingshot"
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 05, 2016, 11:12:26 PM
Emo doesn't need that hand out, I agree with emodad
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: kim carnes on December 05, 2016, 11:21:08 PM
I mean, the thing is usually by the time a parent passes away you're already old yourself and past the handout stage
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 05, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
One thing I should also mention:  my father boasts that he has so finely calculated things that he will die the day after he's spent his last dollar.  So there might not be anything  to inherit.  He's a real wild card I must say.  I find it endearing.  Almost ben ji dad esque.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Tobias on December 05, 2016, 11:47:58 PM
that's p great
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: sys on December 05, 2016, 11:51:37 PM
he should never have had children if he hated them so much.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 06, 2016, 12:04:25 AM
He hates us out of love you see.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 06, 2016, 09:09:13 AM
At this rate, i'll probably take over my families hospital expenses.  :frown:
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Kat Kid on December 06, 2016, 09:12:32 AM
At this rate, i'll probably take over my families hospital expenses.  :frown:

debt is not inheritable
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 06, 2016, 09:13:20 AM
Confidence rising
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 06, 2016, 09:13:56 AM
Private student loans are tho. I hope I don't die for their sake.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: ChiComCat on December 06, 2016, 09:17:58 AM
Second son of a second son.  Married into a 3rd daughter of a 4th son.  I will get nothing and will never improve my station in life.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 06, 2016, 09:37:32 AM
married money so its really their call.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: sys on December 06, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
debt is not inheritable

how frustrating for emo's father.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 06, 2016, 10:26:54 AM
debt is not inheritable

how frustrating for emo's father.

:lol:

My dad really is a great guy but wow I could tell some stories to convince you otherwise. 
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: DQ12 on December 06, 2016, 11:02:25 AM
first son of first son.  i didn't know i was slumming it with so many succession inferiors on this bbs. 
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 06, 2016, 11:05:24 AM
Maybe this can replace your college question for new people
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 06, 2016, 11:59:02 AM
Fourth son of a first son. Nothing but scraps.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: CNS on December 06, 2016, 12:16:38 PM
Second of the first.  I am little finger'ing the crap out of it all while breath is still drawn.  My engineering scale and pencil are mightier than any sword.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Pete on December 06, 2016, 12:19:53 PM
First of a First, and I have a son and a daughter.

Obviously my son will want for nothing.

I am participating in this thread exclusively for guidance on the wisest approach for maximizing value of daughters.  TIA.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: CNS on December 06, 2016, 12:21:31 PM
It's a new world Pete.  First daughters may be the new sons before it's your time.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: chum1 on December 06, 2016, 12:41:58 PM
I'd like my kids to go to an elite college.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 06, 2016, 01:02:30 PM
I'd like my kids to go to an elite college.

Marry a woman with wealthy parents
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: DQ12 on December 06, 2016, 01:10:29 PM
First of a First, and I have a son and a daughter.

Obviously my son will want for nothing.

I am participating in this thread exclusively for guidance on the wisest approach for maximizing value of daughters.  TIA.
Marry them off for a high price -- settle for nothing less than the family's fattest calf and noblest steed.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: felix rex on December 06, 2016, 04:42:44 PM
Second of first son. my older brother has four kids, all girls, and they are out of the procreation game.  I have two, also both girls. My Lebanese father in law half-jokingly scorns us with the Abu Banaat title, which is an Arab insult meaning "father of daughters."

Notably, my father was an only son and while his father had two brothers, one hung himself in the barn when he was a teenager and the other wasn't right in the head and died childless.

Long story short, if I don't crank out a son, the entire line dating back to the founding of the current "estate" dies with me.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 06, 2016, 04:44:32 PM
That's a looming burden I must say there FR.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: kim carnes on December 06, 2016, 05:25:29 PM
I'd like my kids to go to an elite college.

There's no such thing
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Pete on December 06, 2016, 06:51:54 PM
I'd like my kids to go to an elite college.

There's no such thing


India Institute of Technology is pretty rough ridin' Elite, bro.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: HerrSonntag on December 06, 2016, 07:19:23 PM
First son of a first son, only one carrying the title. Lot of responsibility
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Bloodfart on December 06, 2016, 10:54:33 PM
3rd son of a 1st son stumbled into merger with 1st daughter (and genesis of wealth) of a 2nd son
My 1st son is the second eldest male although my son is quite astute his cousin is a brute and could prove a worthy adversary.  Hear! Hear!
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 07, 2016, 12:26:13 AM
kk, i've actually been thinking a lot about my legacy in recent weeks.  as you know, i've eschewn the production of children, leaving me heirless.  what, then, to do with my estate?  it rests heavily on my mind.  i would not have it used in support of causes i despise, or to lessen the burden of individuals to whom god justly granted those very burdens.  it distresses.

Reverse mortgage, live it up in your final years.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Kat Kid on December 07, 2016, 07:57:47 AM
My main goal right now is trying to prevent my first son from becoming a tyrant.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 07, 2016, 08:33:07 AM
I am a first born son of a first born son. I will produce no heirs.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 07, 2016, 08:34:08 AM
My main goal right now is trying to prevent my first son from becoming a tyrant.

I think I have decided that my legacy will be to help SonOfKK rule the world.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: chum1 on December 07, 2016, 06:14:01 PM
Bumper sticker on way home from work: MY SON IS A US MARINE.
Title: Re: Line of succession thread
Post by: CNS on December 07, 2016, 06:48:13 PM
Aka The Second Sons