Post by: kso_FAN on December 22, 2015, 09:10:54 PM
Another game against a bad team missing its best player. Another ugly win with plenty of struggles. I guess the 2nd half was better with increased efficiency from making some shots, but this game still had a lot of ugly play. The effort and ability to take care of the ball that I really enjoyed from this team earlier this year has slipped starting with the aTm game. Part of that is the struggles of younger players I guess, but the silly turnovers and inability to make shots has to change to win Big 12 games. I appreciate the JYC offensive boarding, but its going to take more than that to win games against good teams.
Post by: 'taterblast on December 22, 2015, 09:17:25 PM
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Post by: Trim on December 22, 2015, 10:34:19 PM
I blame Foster
CUT THE HEAD OFF
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2015, 10:35:26 PM
Post by: Trim on December 22, 2015, 10:48:13 PM
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“Winning is always good,” freshman guard The Flush said. “Even though we didn’t come out and play at the magic level that coach talks about, coming out with the win is always good.”
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article51209415.html#storylink=cpy
Post by: catastrophe on December 22, 2015, 10:52:22 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2015, 11:01:30 PM
Post by: pissclams on December 22, 2015, 11:15:37 PM
It feels like oscar's teams play up or down to their competition, and this time of year we just play some serious dregs. I think it's hard for them to stay focused.
pretty much every college team plays up or down to their competition. it's almost kinda impossible not to.
Post by: Tobias on December 22, 2015, 11:18:10 PM
_FAN, are you accounting for magic?Quote“Winning is always good,” freshman guard The Flush said. “Even though we didn’t come out and play at the magic level that coach talks about, coming out with the win is always good.”
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article51209415.html#storylink=cpy
we in the biz call that "the anti-limestone effect"
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 08:41:44 AM
It feels like oscar's teams play up or down to their competition, and this time of year we just play some serious dregs. I think it's hard for them to stay focused.
pretty much every college team plays up or down to their competition. it's almost kinda impossible not to.
Eh, I think oscar's teams are more obvious about it.
We beat teams we have no business beating more often than we should, and we get into slug fests with a lot of 200+ RPI teams. I feel like there should be more blowouts both ways.
Post by: catastrophe on December 23, 2015, 09:18:54 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 09:31:07 AM
Seriously, since Pullen, Macgruder and maybe Foster (freshman year), I can't remember anyone who I had a lot of confidence in to shoot the ball when we need points.Maybe you should get on the stokes train then. Also, Foster was last year, so i'm sorry you've had to wait a whole 6 months to find a shooter for this team. :lol:
Post by: TownieCat on December 23, 2015, 09:43:10 AM
38% of our scoring is coming from freshmen right now. I do have confidence that one (or maybe 2) out of Wade, Brown, or Stokes will develop into that kind of go-to scorer eventually.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 23, 2015, 09:48:12 AM
I blame FosterI 2nd this
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Post by: wetwillie on December 23, 2015, 09:49:48 AM
I never had that kind of confidence in Foster. :dunno:
38% of our scoring is coming from freshmen right now. I do have confidence that one (or maybe 2) out of Wade, Brown, or Stokes will develop into that kind of go-to scorer eventually.
townie cat lets be real, you have 0 confidence in anything.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 23, 2015, 09:50:07 AM
We must bring foster back to beat OU. #buzzerbeatersSeriously, since Pullen, Macgruder and maybe Foster (freshman year), I can't remember anyone who I had a lot of confidence in to shoot the ball when we need points.Maybe you should get on the stokes train then. Also, Foster was last year, so i'm sorry you've had to wait a whole 6 months to find a shooter for this team.
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Post by: CNS on December 23, 2015, 09:56:14 AM
It feels like oscar's teams play up or down to their competition, and this time of year we just play some serious dregs. I think it's hard for them to stay focused.That was foster, tho.
Last off season was supposed to fix it.
Post by: TownieCat on December 23, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
I never had that kind of confidence in Foster. :dunno:
38% of our scoring is coming from freshmen right now. I do have confidence that one (or maybe 2) out of Wade, Brown, or Stokes will develop into that kind of go-to scorer eventually.
townie cat lets be real, you have 0 confidence in anything.
I have confidence that I will be at the Barrett statue at noon today if you want to meet me there. :comehere:
Post by: wetwillie on December 23, 2015, 10:01:33 AM
I never had that kind of confidence in Foster. :dunno:
38% of our scoring is coming from freshmen right now. I do have confidence that one (or maybe 2) out of Wade, Brown, or Stokes will develop into that kind of go-to scorer eventually.
townie cat lets be real, you have 0 confidence in anything.
I have confidence that I will be at the Barrett statue at noon today if you want to meet me there. :comehere:
:sdeek:
Post by: catastrophe on December 23, 2015, 10:27:22 AM
Seriously, since Pullen, Macgruder and maybe Foster (freshman year), I can't remember anyone who I had a lot of confidence in to shoot the ball when we need points.Maybe you should get on the stokes train then. Also, Foster was last year, so i'm sorry you've had to wait a whole 6 months to find a shooter for this team. :lol:
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maybe Foster (freshman year)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on December 23, 2015, 10:30:57 AM
This team is playing above their coverage. They're basically dating the red head from American pie, and their potential is Zooey. We've out punt our coverage so far and that confuses the BID crowd. Stop following the over 44 year old mods and go w/ your gut! Go cats and hope for the best! Cats, man!
You can talk to some of these guys, but this better not be directed to me. I was very disappointed at the end of last season and this summer, but I have been pretty positive this season. I'm pleased with the record so far and the win at Georgia was nice. I have liked how this team plays together and plays hard and does things like oboard and get to the FT line.
But I will not give poor performance a pass because they are young or some nonsense. Yeah, the defense looks good the last two games, but we played teams that had just lost their best player in both, the defense better look great. We had a terrible performance against So Carolina St and the past two games were barely better. aTm was a winnable road game that featured poor defense. We can't shoot and the dumb turnovers have been increasing lately.
I believe this team can go .500 in the league and get to the tournament and my disappointment stems from that. If this team continues the trends of poor offense with lots of turnovers they will win 4-6 Big 12 games at most and I believe they are better than that. I don't like the trend of seeing oscar teams play down to bad teams. I'm hopeful the short break will be enough to get us back on track, we'll handle St. Louis, then get the league started off nicely with a win vs West Virginia at home.
I simply will not give the team excuses for the poor play they've shown far too often lately.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 10:35:54 AM
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 23, 2015, 10:40:04 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 10:41:27 AM
We play to our competitionWe definitely do.
Post by: chum1 on December 23, 2015, 10:41:37 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on December 23, 2015, 10:49:15 AM
Wade can shoot it a bit, but shooting a bunch of 3s is not his game. Same thing for Edwards and Westicles.
After that its going to be up to Hurt throwing in a few.
Stokes and Brown are the only real shooters we have, but its tough to rely on that from freshmen.
We don't need to shoot 40% as a team, but we can't keep having halves where we shoot <20% like we have against SCS, aTm, CSU, and ND.
Post by: ChiComCat on December 23, 2015, 11:35:08 AM
KU/ISU/OU - 1 and 5
WV/UT/Baylor - 2 and 4
OSU/TT/TCU - 5 and 1
Post by: kso_FAN on December 23, 2015, 11:38:40 AM
I have a hard time getting to _FAN's .500 in conference play. Even what I have below seems optimistic, IMO. Too many coaches in the league like to play with pressure and against our young guards, that makes it hard for me to believe that we can pull an upset in those games.
KU/ISU/OU - 1 and 5
WV/UT/Baylor - 2 and 4
OSU/TT/TCU - 5 and 1
The #Bruceketball track record says we probably do better against the top 3, but also probably worse against the bottom.
7 or 8 is probably realistic, my optimism is pushing me to 9.
Post by: scottwildcat on December 23, 2015, 01:13:15 PM
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Post by: Canary on December 23, 2015, 01:27:20 PM
We are sweeping ISU, but we won't win 5 from OSU TT TCUI think we get six out of those eight. And I think we will be fairly decent at home. Nine is possible.
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Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2015, 07:03:26 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 23, 2015, 09:27:37 PM
All these shitty schools were playing junk d and packing it in. We won't see much of that in conference (except Baylor obv) because that's not the "philosophy" of the ego coaches.
The offense will improve. Also, Hurt needs to get his wide ass into the paint.