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Title: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: POWL on September 28, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
which one will it be ?     

 :dunno:
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2015, 02:04:00 PM
all 3
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Post by: 'taterblast on September 28, 2015, 02:05:12 PM
for some reason that makes no rough ridin' sense, i think our best chance is against TCU
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Post by: Steffy08 on September 28, 2015, 02:16:29 PM
We are going to play a ton of close games this year, including the next three.

I think we win 2/3.  I think our defense is legit, and I think our offense will be dramatically improved from what we have seen thus far.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: kslim on September 28, 2015, 02:32:08 PM
We are going to play a ton of close games this year, including the next three.

I think we win 2/3.  I think our defense is legit, and I think our offense will be dramatically improved from what we have seen thus far.
i know you are stupid but did you not see what jeff rough ridin' driskell did to us? how about the all world wide out that only played with one hand? yeah we will win 2/3!
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Post by: HerrSonntag on September 28, 2015, 02:34:58 PM
3:30pm or 7/7:30pm kickoff time, looks like they're putting us and the OKSTU v. WVU game on the 6 day option for those 2 slots.

In either case, the 6PM wedding i'll be attending in BFE will preclude my attendance :-(
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
We are going to play a ton of close games this year, including the next three.

I think we win 2/3.  I think our defense is legit, and I think our offense will be dramatically improved from what we have seen thus far.
i know you are stupid but did you not see what jeff rough ridin' driskell did to us? how about the all world wide out that only played with one hand? yeah we will win 2/3!

All Jeff Driskel did was lose.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: XocolateThundarr on September 28, 2015, 02:39:11 PM
We are going to play a ton of close games this year, including the next three.

I think we win 2/3.  I think our defense is legit, and I think our offense will be dramatically improved from what we have seen thus far.
i know you are stupid but did you not see what jeff rough ridin' driskell did to us? how about the all world wide out that only played with one hand? yeah we will win 2/3!

This concerns me greatly with conference games coming up.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: kslim on September 28, 2015, 02:39:32 PM
We are going to play a ton of close games this year, including the next three.

I think we win 2/3.  I think our defense is legit, and I think our offense will be dramatically improved from what we have seen thus far.
i know you are stupid but did you not see what jeff rough ridin' driskell did to us? how about the all world wide out that only played with one hand? yeah we will win 2/3!

All Jeff Driskel did was lose.
he threw for 300 yds and ran when he wanted. I love our defense when its whole and not a mash unit. that being said we are going against much better teams than la tech. to say we will win 2 of 3 is dumb
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: scottwildcat on September 28, 2015, 02:40:25 PM
We don't win any of the next 3 probably


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Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: POWL on September 28, 2015, 02:45:12 PM
We don't win any of the next 3 probably

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Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Yard Dog on September 28, 2015, 02:56:25 PM
I'd say it depends on the return of confirmed stud Dante Barnett.
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Post by: Steffy08 on September 28, 2015, 02:59:20 PM
We are going to play a ton of close games this year, including the next three.

I think we win 2/3.  I think our defense is legit, and I think our offense will be dramatically improved from what we have seen thus far.
i know you are stupid but did you not see what jeff rough ridin' driskell did to us? how about the all world wide out that only played with one hand? yeah we will win 2/3!

Bad day?
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: kslim on September 28, 2015, 03:00:29 PM
We are going to play a ton of close games this year, including the next three.

I think we win 2/3.  I think our defense is legit, and I think our offense will be dramatically improved from what we have seen thus far.
i know you are stupid but did you not see what jeff rough ridin' driskell did to us? how about the all world wide out that only played with one hand? yeah we will win 2/3!

Bad day?
not at all, i just cant stand tucks
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: slobber on September 28, 2015, 03:02:40 PM
Stupid premise....


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: slobber on September 28, 2015, 03:02:49 PM



Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Steffy08 on September 28, 2015, 03:10:42 PM
We are going to play a ton of close games this year, including the next three.

I think we win 2/3.  I think our defense is legit, and I think our offense will be dramatically improved from what we have seen thus far.
i know you are stupid but did you not see what jeff rough ridin' driskell did to us? how about the all world wide out that only played with one hand? yeah we will win 2/3!

Bad day?
not at all, i just cant stand tucks

OK, I'll bite.

OSU was very average last year; we pounded them in Manhattan.  Two years ago we took a train wreck of a QB situation to Stillwater and still only lost by four (bad call on Sams' fumble, too).  Rudolph has been getting all sorts of hype, but did you see his numbers and performance in the last three quarters against UT?  OSU was scared to throw the ball, and actually had Walsh in for a good portion of the fourth.

TCU is just decimated on defense; Tech could've (should've) beat them this weekend in Lubbock, even with Mahomes clearly hobbled.  You don't think we can replicate that sort of success......is Tech suddenly so much better than us (despite not finishing higher in league in 5 years)?

I think jury is still out on OU.  That UT win isn't looking as great anymore; nor, for that matter, is the Tulsa win.

I think at UT in Austin will be very tough, because we will be beat up and tired after playing four tough games in four weeks.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Shooter Jones on September 28, 2015, 03:12:13 PM
I never think we'll lose a game in a season until we actually do, then I think we'll lose every one after. I'm mentally weak and was so mumped in 2013.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Big Sam on September 28, 2015, 03:13:36 PM
If we don't have much of a QB run game, and if we can't fix some blocking (Kleinsorge), and if we have to play Charles Jones for his blocking over Silmon (because the staff refused to remove the QB run game option as the offenses base play - because we know Bazooka Joe ain't runnin' it), then we got issues.

The best help for the D (which is doing okay, except for some big mental mistakes in part due to lack of experience) is a O that moves the ball consistently, and I'm afraid that just won't happen.  Welcome 0-3.

Maybe they will figure it out for TCU (not sure why, but I hope so).
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2015, 03:16:21 PM
None of these teams, other than maybe OU, have faced a team as good as our KSU Cats yet. These are going to be close, hard fought games, and Joe Hubener will not let us lose.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: kslim on September 28, 2015, 03:21:06 PM
We are going to play a ton of close games this year, including the next three.

I think we win 2/3.  I think our defense is legit, and I think our offense will be dramatically improved from what we have seen thus far.
i know you are stupid but did you not see what jeff rough ridin' driskell did to us? how about the all world wide out that only played with one hand? yeah we will win 2/3!

Bad day?
not at all, i just cant stand tucks

OK, I'll bite.

OSU was very average last year; we pounded them in Manhattan.  Two years ago we took a train wreck of a QB situation to Stillwater and still only lost by four (bad call on Sams' fumble, too).  Rudolph has been getting all sorts of hype, but did you see his numbers and performance in the last three quarters against UT?  OSU was scared to throw the ball, and actually had Walsh in for a good portion of the fourth.

TCU is just decimated on defense; Tech could've (should've) beat them this weekend in Lubbock, even with Mahomes clearly hobbled.  You don't think we can replicate that sort of success......is Tech suddenly so much better than us (despite not finishing higher in league in 5 years)?

I think jury is still out on OU.  That UT win isn't looking as great anymore; nor, for that matter, is the Tulsa win.

I think at UT in Austin will be very tough, because we will be beat up and tired after playing four tough games in four weeks.
wait you think it will be tougher to win in austin than stillwater? holy crap. OSU started running the ball and rudolph got hurt last week. i hope im wrong obviously but i dont see it. tcu is still hard to stop and with our offensive ineptitude winning 1 out of the next 3 will be difficult.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Yard Dog on September 28, 2015, 03:36:31 PM
i think you are all discounting the benefit of a week of prep and what a full game of Silmon at halfback looks like.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: AppleJack on September 28, 2015, 03:46:00 PM
I told you people that we're about to start our 5 game losing streak.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on September 28, 2015, 03:47:17 PM
I told you people that we're about to start our 5 game losing streak.

6, but whatever.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Steffy08 on September 28, 2015, 03:58:18 PM
We are going to play a ton of close games this year, including the next three.

I think we win 2/3.  I think our defense is legit, and I think our offense will be dramatically improved from what we have seen thus far.
i know you are stupid but did you not see what jeff rough ridin' driskell did to us? how about the all world wide out that only played with one hand? yeah we will win 2/3!

Bad day?
not at all, i just cant stand tucks

OK, I'll bite.

OSU was very average last year; we pounded them in Manhattan.  Two years ago we took a train wreck of a QB situation to Stillwater and still only lost by four (bad call on Sams' fumble, too).  Rudolph has been getting all sorts of hype, but did you see his numbers and performance in the last three quarters against UT?  OSU was scared to throw the ball, and actually had Walsh in for a good portion of the fourth.

TCU is just decimated on defense; Tech could've (should've) beat them this weekend in Lubbock, even with Mahomes clearly hobbled.  You don't think we can replicate that sort of success......is Tech suddenly so much better than us (despite not finishing higher in league in 5 years)?

I think jury is still out on OU.  That UT win isn't looking as great anymore; nor, for that matter, is the Tulsa win.

I think at UT in Austin will be very tough, because we will be beat up and tired after playing four tough games in four weeks.
wait you think it will be tougher to win in austin than stillwater? holy crap. OSU started running the ball and rudolph got hurt last week. i hope im wrong obviously but i dont see it. tcu is still hard to stop and with our offensive ineptitude winning 1 out of the next 3 will be difficult.

Yep, simply because of the way the schedule sets up. We had two weeks to prepare for OSU; they had a hard-fought game last Saturday.  When we play UT, we will be coming off three straight very tough games.  UT, however, has the week before us off.  (Which will undoubtedly be useful for Heard.)
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: halfEmpty on September 28, 2015, 04:22:13 PM
I would hardly say Driskel ran all over them.  He had 6 good gainers almost all of which were passing plays that broke down and he ran to the open field.  That has been a problem with the D for years and unfortunately it looks like it will continue.  Very few college qb's can't run at all, so why this is always a problem for them is a mystery.  Being sucked in on the bootleg is also a concern and one team's will exploit if they don't correct it.  Anyway.  Take away those plays and Driskel's other 13 carries went for -30 yards.  Dixon had the big 36 yd run.  Other than that play he was kept in check 16-45 yds.  They did have 300+ yds passing.  They did throw it 50+ times though so I don't feel as bad about that as I probably should.  The lack of turnovers is my biggest concern.  Overall I think the defense will be fine though, given the offense can keep them off the field every once in a while.

That being said, I think 0-3 is more likely than 2-1 over the next 3 games.  The inept ability of the offense exacerbated by extremely questionable play calling and personnel decisions leaves my glass of optimism half empty.  The wildcat offense is a trash set without any threat to do anything else out of it.  The fact that they even bother to make a check to the sideline during it is even more infuriating.  Basically, any running up the middle with 8 or 9 in the box is a losing battle in the long run.  At least until they attempt to stretch the field laterally.  Silmon got some good runs to the outside on a couple drives, but for the most part they didn't even try.  It worries me when they play a team with more speed that will be negated as well.  Hubener is an average passer.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Not an agile runner.  I don't think he is going to be the reason the offense falters though.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2015, 04:27:31 PM
We're winning the next two.

That being said, whether we win or lose this week, yes winning in Austin will be tougher than winning in Stillwater. Texas has a much higher ceiling than OSU.
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Post by: Gooch on September 28, 2015, 04:28:22 PM
MIR calling a TCU win. :sdeek:
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2015, 04:30:31 PM
TCU hasn't looked very good this year.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2015, 04:31:12 PM
MIR calling a TCU win. :sdeek:

More of a hope, but it's moronic to think we don't have a chance
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: kslim on September 28, 2015, 05:06:26 PM
They have a chance but id say its dependent on Saturday. They win saturday (which i think is our best chance of the three) then its possible they lose Saturday and 0-3 is probable
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Post by: meow meow on September 28, 2015, 05:11:11 PM
We're winning the next two.

That being said, whether we win or lose this week, yes winning in Austin will be tougher than winning in Stillwater. Texas has a much higher ceiling than OSU.

you're really sticking to OSU finishing 7th or whatever you said before the season, huh? 
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Post by: Belvis Noland on September 28, 2015, 05:27:31 PM
TCU hasn't looked very good this year.

They've looked pretty good.  I mean, 750 yards @ a pretty good Tech.  They're not unbeatable, but they're a very good team.   
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Legit Elite on September 28, 2015, 05:31:06 PM
It will be 2 out of 3 wins with the KITN coming v. OU
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2015, 05:31:28 PM
We're winning the next two.

That being said, whether we win or lose this week, yes winning in Austin will be tougher than winning in Stillwater. Texas has a much higher ceiling than OSU.

you're really sticking to OSU finishing 7th or whatever you said before the season, huh?

I think I had them 9th, they won't be that bad but 7th or so seems about right. Did you happen to see Mason Rudolph in the second half of that Texas game? Either Rudolph's hurt or the worst qb in the Big 12, and apparently J.W. Walsh isn't allowed to throw at all.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: nicname on September 28, 2015, 06:24:07 PM
None of these teams are really all that great. Def. should win at least one if not two.

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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2015, 06:41:51 PM
TCU hasn't looked very good this year.

They've looked pretty good.  I mean, 750 yards @ a pretty good Tech.  They're not unbeatable, but they're a very good team.

I would say they look like a 7 win team, but the rest of the Big 12 looks bad enough for them to finish with 9 or 10 wins.
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Post by: That_Guy on September 28, 2015, 07:03:07 PM
Pessimist really suck. I'll be an optimist until we actually lose all these games.


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Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 28, 2015, 07:22:32 PM
we're going to win all of them and then the national championship
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Post by: pissclams on September 28, 2015, 07:34:59 PM
i also think we sweep and go 3-0 in our next three.  boys get out your favorite broom b/c we will need to start using it go ksu.
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Post by: catzacker on September 28, 2015, 07:39:32 PM
I don't think we have the offense to say we're going to win 2/3 or 3/3.  We don't seem to be very good at touchdown scoring.
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Post by: Tobias on September 28, 2015, 07:40:33 PM
i think what pissclams is saying is that these puds need to get ready to #feelthebern
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Post by: SdK on September 28, 2015, 08:07:49 PM
You guys are all silly. Let's take it one week at a time and discuss each game on its' own merit. During and after. Go Cats.
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Post by: Pete on September 28, 2015, 09:25:36 PM
I think we are Cactus Bowl bound!  Extra practice time and bowl game goodies for the players!  And, a nice Saturday January 2nd time slot!

We win 1 out of the next 6, and 2 of the last 3.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 28, 2015, 09:28:14 PM
I honestly have no idea what to think of any Big 12 team right now.  They've all been so inconsistent that it's hard to get a read. I think we should get at least one but it wouldn't shock me if we lost all three or won two.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 29, 2015, 09:41:26 AM

I would say they look like a 7 win team, but the rest of the Big 12 looks bad enough for them to finish with 9 or 10 wins.

haha, ok. 
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 10:13:23 AM
We're winning the next two.

That being said, whether we win or lose this week, yes winning in Austin will be tougher than winning in Stillwater. Texas has a much higher ceiling than OSU.

you're really sticking to OSU finishing 7th or whatever you said before the season, huh?

I think I had them 9th, they won't be that bad but 7th or so seems about right. Did you happen to see Mason Rudolph in the second half of that Texas game? Either Rudolph's hurt or the worst qb in the Big 12, and apparently J.W. Walsh isn't allowed to throw at all.

9th?   :lol:
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Post by: Panjandrum on September 29, 2015, 11:00:09 AM
We're winning the next two.

That being said, whether we win or lose this week, yes winning in Austin will be tougher than winning in Stillwater. Texas has a much higher ceiling than OSU.

you're really sticking to OSU finishing 7th or whatever you said before the season, huh?

I think I had them 9th, they won't be that bad but 7th or so seems about right. Did you happen to see Mason Rudolph in the second half of that Texas game? Either Rudolph's hurt or the worst qb in the Big 12, and apparently J.W. Walsh isn't allowed to throw at all.

I was very high on OSU to start the year, but they unimpressed.  Texas should have had that game in Austin.

For some reason, I just think OSU is going to have trouble with us.  I think we're due for a multi-INT game from Rudolph, and I guess I'm optimistic that that offense will start to find an identity after the bye week gives us a chance to settle in with Hubener starting and Banks as the backup.  Given how Snyder likes to prepare, I think all of the QB injuries threw them for a major loop, and they just got caught up in the week-to-week game prep inertia and didn't really make a lot of the necessary adjustments because they really didn't know what they had with so many new starters on offense.

Also, if we've committed to Silmon as the starting tailback, that changes the dynamic on offense quite a bit.

I think we're going to see some adjustments.  With Banks getting significant reps as a backup the last three weeks, I hope they'll be more comfortable letting Hubener run a little bit in the next few games.  Maybe not a dozen rushes a game, but he can stand 6-8 to keep the defense honest.

I think KSU wins in Stillwater and Austin, and I think the TCU game is a lot closer than people think it will be.
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Post by: Belvis Noland on September 29, 2015, 11:04:32 AM
Yeah, if we have fixed our redzone incompetence, fixed our play-calling incompetence, reduced Dimel's carries, made Silmon our starting RB, eliminated the Wildcat from our offense, found some WRs, and taught bazooka joe how to run, I don't see any reason we don't take care of business in the next 3 games. 

Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Panjandrum on September 29, 2015, 11:28:55 AM
Yeah, if we have fixed our redzone incompetence, fixed our play-calling incompetence, reduced Dimel's carries, made Silmon our starting RB, eliminated the Wildcat from our offense, found some WRs, and taught bazooka joe how to run, I don't see any reason we don't take care of business in the next 3 games.

Well, the majority of those things are easy to fix. 

Silmon appears to be the primary back at this point.

Snyder has all but said he's done with the Wildcat as it stands today.

Dimel could easily cut carries for his kid.  Whether or not he does is a different story...

The play-calling could be tweaked based on opening up the playbook a little bit for conference play and adjusting our tendencies based on what the staff has seen thus far.

The WR's haven't been as bad as we thought they would be.  Cook and Heath have been relatively consistent and what we need them to be.  Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.

It sounds dumb, but Louisiana Tech is going to be seen as a solid win by the time the year is over.  That's a 9-4 team in C-USA.
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Post by: CHONGS on September 29, 2015, 11:35:02 AM
Yeah, if we have fixed our redzone incompetence, fixed our play-calling incompetence, reduced Dimel's carries, made Silmon our starting RB, eliminated the Wildcat from our offense, found some WRs, and taught bazooka joe how to run, I don't see any reason we don't take care of business in the next 3 games.

Well, the majority of those things are easy to fix. 

Silmon appears to be the primary back at this point.

Snyder has all but said he's done with the Wildcat as it stands today.

Dimel could easily cut carries for his kid.  Whether or not he does is a different story...

The play-calling could be tweaked based on opening up the playbook a little bit for conference play and adjusting our tendencies based on what the staff has seen thus far.

The WR's haven't been as bad as we thought they would be.  Cook and Heath have been relatively consistent and what we need them to be.  Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.

It sounds dumb, but Louisiana Tech is going to be seen as a solid win by the time the year is over.  That's a 9-4 team in C-USA.
If La Tech loses two more games in their schedule then they are NOT a solid win at all.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 29, 2015, 11:37:47 AM
Yeah, if we have fixed our redzone incompetence, fixed our play-calling incompetence, reduced Dimel's carries, made Silmon our starting RB, eliminated the Wildcat from our offense, found some WRs, and taught bazooka joe how to run, I don't see any reason we don't take care of business in the next 3 games.

Well, the majority of those things are easy to fix. 

Silmon appears to be the primary back at this point.

Snyder has all but said he's done with the Wildcat as it stands today.

Dimel could easily cut carries for his kid.  Whether or not he does is a different story...

The play-calling could be tweaked based on opening up the playbook a little bit for conference play and adjusting our tendencies based on what the staff has seen thus far.

The WR's haven't been as bad as we thought they would be.  Cook and Heath have been relatively consistent and what we need them to be.  Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.

It sounds dumb, but Louisiana Tech is going to be seen as a solid win by the time the year is over.  That's a 9-4 team in C-USA.
If La Tech loses two more games in their schedule then they are NOT a solid win at all.

Maybe he thinks they lose their bowl game.
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Post by: CHONGS on September 29, 2015, 11:42:46 AM
Nothing says solid win like triple overtime at home against the runner up in Conference USA West.

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Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 12:03:03 PM
LT isn't that good. 

Also, the people that think Silmon is the savior of this offense have me lol'ing at the office right now. 
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 29, 2015, 12:16:37 PM
Yeah, if we have fixed our redzone incompetence, fixed our play-calling incompetence, reduced Dimel's carries, made Silmon our starting RB, eliminated the Wildcat from our offense, found some WRs, and taught bazooka joe how to run, I don't see any reason we don't take care of business in the next 3 games.

Well, the majority of those things are easy to fix. 


You'd certainly think so. 
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Panjandrum on September 29, 2015, 12:48:10 PM
Yeah, if we have fixed our redzone incompetence, fixed our play-calling incompetence, reduced Dimel's carries, made Silmon our starting RB, eliminated the Wildcat from our offense, found some WRs, and taught bazooka joe how to run, I don't see any reason we don't take care of business in the next 3 games.

Well, the majority of those things are easy to fix. 

Silmon appears to be the primary back at this point.

Snyder has all but said he's done with the Wildcat as it stands today.

Dimel could easily cut carries for his kid.  Whether or not he does is a different story...

The play-calling could be tweaked based on opening up the playbook a little bit for conference play and adjusting our tendencies based on what the staff has seen thus far.

The WR's haven't been as bad as we thought they would be.  Cook and Heath have been relatively consistent and what we need them to be.  Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.

It sounds dumb, but Louisiana Tech is going to be seen as a solid win by the time the year is over.  That's a 9-4 team in C-USA.
If La Tech loses two more games in their schedule then they are NOT a solid win at all.

Maybe he thinks they lose their bowl game.

They have a game @ Miss St., and they will probably win the East and play WKU or Marshall in the CUSA title game. 

That's 13 games.  9-4.
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Post by: Belvis Noland on September 29, 2015, 12:57:00 PM
Yeah, if we have fixed our redzone incompetence, fixed our play-calling incompetence, reduced Dimel's carries, made Silmon our starting RB, eliminated the Wildcat from our offense, found some WRs, and taught bazooka joe how to run, I don't see any reason we don't take care of business in the next 3 games.

Well, the majority of those things are easy to fix. 

Silmon appears to be the primary back at this point.

Snyder has all but said he's done with the Wildcat as it stands today.

Dimel could easily cut carries for his kid.  Whether or not he does is a different story...

The play-calling could be tweaked based on opening up the playbook a little bit for conference play and adjusting our tendencies based on what the staff has seen thus far.

The WR's haven't been as bad as we thought they would be.  Cook and Heath have been relatively consistent and what we need them to be.  Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.

It sounds dumb, but Louisiana Tech is going to be seen as a solid win by the time the year is over.  That's a 9-4 team in C-USA.
If La Tech loses two more games in their schedule then they are NOT a solid win at all.

Maybe he thinks they lose their bowl game.

They have a game @ Miss St., and they will probably win the East and play WKU or Marshall in the CUSA title game. 

That's 13 games.  9-4.

What does 9-4 in CUSA translate to in BXII.  4-8, 5-7? 

so, yeah, we essentially beat ISU at home in triple overtime. 
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 29, 2015, 01:01:25 PM
Yeah, if we have fixed our redzone incompetence, fixed our play-calling incompetence, reduced Dimel's carries, made Silmon our starting RB, eliminated the Wildcat from our offense, found some WRs, and taught bazooka joe how to run, I don't see any reason we don't take care of business in the next 3 games.

Well, the majority of those things are easy to fix. 

Silmon appears to be the primary back at this point.

Snyder has all but said he's done with the Wildcat as it stands today.

Dimel could easily cut carries for his kid.  Whether or not he does is a different story...

The play-calling could be tweaked based on opening up the playbook a little bit for conference play and adjusting our tendencies based on what the staff has seen thus far.

The WR's haven't been as bad as we thought they would be.  Cook and Heath have been relatively consistent and what we need them to be.  Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.

It sounds dumb, but Louisiana Tech is going to be seen as a solid win by the time the year is over.  That's a 9-4 team in C-USA.
If La Tech loses two more games in their schedule then they are NOT a solid win at all.

Maybe he thinks they lose their bowl game.

They have a game @ Miss St., and they will probably win the East and play WKU or Marshall in the CUSA title game. 

That's 13 games.  9-4.

What does 9-4 in CUSA translate to in BXII.  4-8, 5-7? 

so, yeah, we essentially beat ISU at home in triple overtime.

La Tech is better than ISU and KU. Worse than everyone else. It is kind of concerning that we went to OT with them, but I think our coaches and Joe will get better. The game never should have made it to overtime, but the team had their backs against the wall a couple of times in OT, and still pulled out the win. That is encouraging.
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Post by: Steffy08 on September 29, 2015, 01:18:46 PM
Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.


Isn't Davis done?
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Post by: CHONGS on September 29, 2015, 01:35:39 PM
Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.


Isn't Davis done?
I didn't say that crap.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: CHONGS on September 29, 2015, 01:37:44 PM
Yeah, if we have fixed our redzone incompetence, fixed our play-calling incompetence, reduced Dimel's carries, made Silmon our starting RB, eliminated the Wildcat from our offense, found some WRs, and taught bazooka joe how to run, I don't see any reason we don't take care of business in the next 3 games.

Well, the majority of those things are easy to fix. 

Silmon appears to be the primary back at this point.

Snyder has all but said he's done with the Wildcat as it stands today.

Dimel could easily cut carries for his kid.  Whether or not he does is a different story...

The play-calling could be tweaked based on opening up the playbook a little bit for conference play and adjusting our tendencies based on what the staff has seen thus far.

The WR's haven't been as bad as we thought they would be.  Cook and Heath have been relatively consistent and what we need them to be.  Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.

It sounds dumb, but Louisiana Tech is going to be seen as a solid win by the time the year is over.  That's a 9-4 team in C-USA.
If La Tech loses two more games in their schedule then they are NOT a solid win at all.

Maybe he thinks they lose their bowl game.

They have a game @ Miss St., and they will probably win the East and play WKU or Marshall in the CUSA title game. 

That's 13 games.  9-4.
They play in the West division tho.
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Post by: Katpappy on September 29, 2015, 01:53:20 PM
Yeah, if we have fixed our redzone incompetence, fixed our play-calling incompetence, reduced Dimel's carries, made Silmon our starting RB, eliminated the Wildcat from our offense, found some WRs, and taught bazooka joe how to run, I don't see any reason we don't take care of business in the next 3 games.

Well, the majority of those things are easy to fix. 

Silmon appears to be the primary back at this point.

Snyder has all but said he's done with the Wildcat as it stands today.

Dimel could easily cut carries for his kid.  Whether or not he does is a different story...

The play-calling could be tweaked based on opening up the playbook a little bit for conference play and adjusting our tendencies based on what the staff has seen thus far.

The WR's haven't been as bad as we thought they would be.  Cook and Heath have been relatively consistent and what we need them to be.  Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.

It sounds dumb, but Louisiana Tech is going to be seen as a solid win by the time the year is over.  That's a 9-4 team in C-USA.
If La Tech loses two more games in their schedule then they are NOT a solid win at all.

Maybe he thinks they lose their bowl game.

They have a game @ Miss St., and they will probably win the East and play WKU or Marshall in the CUSA title game. 

That's 13 games.  9-4.
They play in the West division tho.
Why are you guys kicking Pan in the ass so hard?  He no ksu_Fan for what it's worth.
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Post by: Steffy08 on September 29, 2015, 01:59:35 PM
Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.


Isn't Davis done?
I didn't say that crap.

To the point....isn't Davis done?  I heard he was.  I hope he isn't.
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Post by: joda on September 29, 2015, 02:21:05 PM
LT isn't that good. 

Also, the people that think Silmon is the savior of this offense have me lol'ing at the office right meow.

Fyp... seemed appropriate
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Post by: Panjandrum on September 29, 2015, 02:56:09 PM
Yeah, if we have fixed our redzone incompetence, fixed our play-calling incompetence, reduced Dimel's carries, made Silmon our starting RB, eliminated the Wildcat from our offense, found some WRs, and taught bazooka joe how to run, I don't see any reason we don't take care of business in the next 3 games.

Well, the majority of those things are easy to fix. 

Silmon appears to be the primary back at this point.

Snyder has all but said he's done with the Wildcat as it stands today.

Dimel could easily cut carries for his kid.  Whether or not he does is a different story...

The play-calling could be tweaked based on opening up the playbook a little bit for conference play and adjusting our tendencies based on what the staff has seen thus far.

The WR's haven't been as bad as we thought they would be.  Cook and Heath have been relatively consistent and what we need them to be.  Burton and Davis have been inconsistent, but they've shown signs of being more than what we thought they could be.

It sounds dumb, but Louisiana Tech is going to be seen as a solid win by the time the year is over.  That's a 9-4 team in C-USA.
If La Tech loses two more games in their schedule then they are NOT a solid win at all.

Maybe he thinks they lose their bowl game.

They have a game @ Miss St., and they will probably win the East and play WKU or Marshall in the CUSA title game. 

That's 13 games.  9-4.
They play in the West division tho.

West, East, whatever.  It's the division with Rice and UTSA.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Panjandrum on September 29, 2015, 02:58:11 PM
Why are you guys kicking Pan in the ass so hard?  He no ksu_Fan for what it's worth.

I couldn't care less.

Not sure how to take the second comment, but I obviously respect _Fan tremendously, so, okay.
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Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
Why are you guys kicking Pan in the ass so hard?  He no ksu_Fan for what it's worth.

I couldn't care less.

Not sure how to take the second comment, but I obviously respect _Fan tremendously, so, okay.

consider the source
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Pete on September 29, 2015, 04:59:24 PM
6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses." 
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Post by: Belvis Noland on September 29, 2015, 05:30:52 PM
6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   
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Post by: Gooch on September 29, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
Why do people think we are going to beat WVU?
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Post by: CHONGS on September 29, 2015, 05:44:24 PM
6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   
How would you define an "upset win"?
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Post by: DOD Take 2 on September 29, 2015, 06:08:46 PM
Why do people think we are going to beat WVU?

Because Snyder has clown suited Holgorsen 3 times. And Holgorsen is generally a bad coach.
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Post by: Trim on September 29, 2015, 06:25:00 PM
6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   
How would you define an "upset win"?

Beating a team that finishes ahead of us in the big 12 standings.
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Post by: wetwillie on September 29, 2015, 06:58:26 PM
We could beat any team in the conference, there aren't any unwinnable games on the schedule. 
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 29, 2015, 07:07:49 PM
Anyone who thinks any team on our  schedule other than Baylor is unbeatable is either still melting down from last week or hasn't watched any Big 12 games other than K-State's.
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Post by: wetwillie on September 29, 2015, 07:11:33 PM
Anyone who thinks any team on our  schedule other than Baylor is unbeatable is either still melting down from last week or hasn't watched any Big 12 games other than K-State's.

Baylor at home on Thursday night with 55,000 boozecats is not unwinnable
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Canary on September 29, 2015, 07:21:38 PM
Anyone who thinks any team on our  schedule other than Baylor is unbeatable is either still melting down from last week or hasn't watched any Big 12 games other than K-State's.

Baylor at home on Thursday night with 55,000 boozecats is not unwinnable
I agree.  Even though I have not enjoyed the outcome of most of our most recent previous Thursday evening games.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: cfbandyman on September 29, 2015, 07:37:11 PM
Thursday night games are pretty hit or miss

2010 vs Nubbs  :Yuck: (still my least favorite game of DoD2)
2010 vs KU: Tremaine  :love:
2014 vs Auburn  :blindfold:
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Canary on September 29, 2015, 07:38:56 PM
Thursday night games are pretty hit or miss

2010 vs Nubbs  :Yuck: (still my least favorite game of DoD2)
2010 vs KU: Tremaine  :love:
2014 vs Auburn  :blindfold:
I actually had forgotten about the ku game a few years ago. 
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 29, 2015, 07:46:37 PM
Didn't we beat WVU on Thursday last year?
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: wetwillie on September 29, 2015, 07:52:37 PM
I thought it was against geno two years ago
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 29, 2015, 07:59:54 PM
6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   
How would you define an "upset win"?

A game we're clearly not expected to win.

I'd say KU, ISU are gimmes. UT OSU TT WVU are tossups - may not be favored in those games, but a W wouldn't surprise many people. 

Baylor, OU, TCU would be upsets.  We'll be decent dogs in all games and will turn heads if we win these. 
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Pete on September 29, 2015, 08:01:23 PM

6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   
How would you define an "upset win"?

Beating a team that finishes ahead of us in the big 12 standings.


That, and any game where we are not favored.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: catastrophe on September 29, 2015, 08:06:15 PM
Didn't we beat WVU on Thursday last year?

This is correct.  Not a home game, but a fun watch.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Pete on September 29, 2015, 08:07:07 PM

Anyone who thinks any team on our  schedule other than Baylor is unbeatable is either still melting down from last week or hasn't watched any Big 12 games other than K-State's.

I am not as good at X and O-ing as some of you guys, but in my estimation our offense is terrible and our defense is average.  To me (non-expert), it is very difficult to think of a scenario where we beat TCU, OU, and BU.  I'd call them all unbeatable (by KSU).

But, hey if we beat everyone else we still have a banner year.

I just happen to think we only win 3 more, but again, that is because I believe our offense to be terrible and our defense merely average.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Trim on September 29, 2015, 08:11:51 PM

6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   
How would you define an "upset win"?

Beating a team that finishes ahead of us in the big 12 standings.


That, and any game where we are not favored.

Winning a game we weren't favored in just means the line was wrong, as gets proven when the season's over and every team we lost to is ahead of us and every team we beat is behind us, and we're settled in right at the threshold of relevance.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: MakeItRain on September 29, 2015, 08:38:52 PM
I totally get the teeth gnashing and bitching about the close win against Louisiana Tech. 3 mean it's not like we ever have a game in the non con where we aren't as sharp, uncharted territory. It's also disconcerting because every other damn team in the conference and top 25 have looked awesome in the non con this year.

Everyone has been awesome but us, KU, and ISU; we're mumped.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: catzacker on September 29, 2015, 10:12:46 PM

Anyone who thinks any team on our  schedule other than Baylor is unbeatable is either still melting down from last week or hasn't watched any Big 12 games other than K-State's.

I am not as good at X and O-ing as some of you guys, but in my estimation our offense is terrible and our defense is average.  To me (non-expert), it is very difficult to think of a scenario where we beat TCU, OU, and BU.  I'd call them all unbeatable (by KSU).

But, hey if we beat everyone else we still have a banner year.

I just happen to think we only win 3 more, but again, that is because I believe our offense to be terrible and our defense merely average.

I agree with this. The offense has been kind of shitty in all the non cons, imo. It's not just some freak out because of LaTech.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Steffy08 on September 29, 2015, 10:33:10 PM
6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   
How would you define an "upset win"?

A game we're clearly not expected to win.

I'd say KU, ISU are gimmes. UT OSU TT WVU are tossups - may not be favored in those games, but a W wouldn't surprise many people. 

Baylor, OU, TCU would be upsets.  We'll be decent dogs in all games and will turn heads if we win these.

This could change this weekend, but as of now we would not be huge dogs to Tcu or ou....and also just a single digit verses Baylor.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 30, 2015, 09:01:41 AM

This could change this weekend, but as of now we would not be huge dogs to Tcu or ou....and also just a single digit verses Baylor.

If you're a 9pt dog at home, that's not very good. 
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: kslim on September 30, 2015, 09:10:07 AM
6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   
How would you define an "upset win"?

A game we're clearly not expected to win.

I'd say KU, ISU are gimmes. UT OSU TT WVU are tossups - may not be favored in those games, but a W wouldn't surprise many people. 

Baylor, OU, TCU would be upsets.  We'll be decent dogs in all games and will turn heads if we win these.

This could change this weekend, but as of now we would not be huge dogs to Tcu or ou....and also just a single digit verses Baylor.
home team automatically gets three points so i think you are wrong about single digits.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Steffy08 on September 30, 2015, 09:51:18 AM
6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   
How would you define an "upset win"?

A game we're clearly not expected to win.

I'd say KU, ISU are gimmes. UT OSU TT WVU are tossups - may not be favored in those games, but a W wouldn't surprise many people. 

Baylor, OU, TCU would be upsets.  We'll be decent dogs in all games and will turn heads if we win these.

This could change this weekend, but as of now we would not be huge dogs to Tcu or ou....and also just a single digit verses Baylor.
home team automatically gets three points so i think you are wrong about single digits.

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

Of course, all of this will have to be adjusted based on future results.  Vegas knows that TCU is not that great right now.  Their slim victory over Minnesota looks very bad; and the fact that they struggled somewhat with SMU as well.  Just decimated by injuries.  I really hope TCU wins this weekend; it would be a great chance for us to knock off a highly ranked, but overrated, team.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: kslim on September 30, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   
How would you define an "upset win"?

A game we're clearly not expected to win.

I'd say KU, ISU are gimmes. UT OSU TT WVU are tossups - may not be favored in those games, but a W wouldn't surprise many people. 

Baylor, OU, TCU would be upsets.  We'll be decent dogs in all games and will turn heads if we win these.

This could change this weekend, but as of now we would not be huge dogs to Tcu or ou....and also just a single digit verses Baylor.
home team automatically gets three points so i think you are wrong about single digits.

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

Of course, all of this will have to be adjusted based on future results.  Vegas knows that TCU is not that great right now.  Their slim victory over Minnesota looks very bad; and the fact that they struggled somewhat with SMU as well.  Just decimated by injuries.  I really hope TCU wins this weekend; it would be a great chance for us to knock off a highly ranked, but overrated, team.
no rough ridin' way
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Panjandrum on September 30, 2015, 10:19:41 AM
Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

I bet the line against Baylor would be 10+, and TCU would be 8-9.  OU would probably be 6-7.

OU is easily the most winnable game in that group.
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Post by: Trim on September 30, 2015, 10:24:47 AM
K-State Football: Not a heavy underdog!
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Post by: Belvis Noland on September 30, 2015, 10:28:54 AM

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.


right.  which means that, even if your lines are correct (which they won't even be close), we're essentially 9-10 pt. dogs against Baylor and 4-6 pts against TCU and OU.  we're getting points for home field adv
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: kslim on September 30, 2015, 10:30:45 AM

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.


right.  which means that, even if your lines are correct (which they won't even be close), we're essentially 9-10 pt. dogs against Baylor and 4-6 pts against TCU and OU.  we're getting points for home field adv
dont even try to explain any further. its pointless
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 30, 2015, 11:17:39 AM
Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

I bet the line against Baylor would be 10+, and TCU would be 8-9.  OU would probably be 6-7.

OU is easily the most winnable game in that group.

I see OU as the hardest of the 3.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Steffy08 on September 30, 2015, 12:27:02 PM

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.


right.  which means that, even if your lines are correct (which they won't even be close), we're essentially 9-10 pt. dogs against Baylor and 4-6 pts against TCU and OU.  we're getting points for home field adv
dont even try to explain any further. its pointless

So in trying to guess the line, we are supposed to ignore the 3-4 points given for homefield advantage?  Even though those games will be played at BSFS?  If the line is set at 6, we are not "essentially 9 point underdogs"   That doesn't make sense.  The home field advantage is factored in for a reason, namely, that it affects the outcome of games.  I think what you want to say is that K-State would be a 9 point dog on a neutral field.  I get that.  But it is irrelevant to the current conversation, because the game is being played at BSFS.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: catastrophe on September 30, 2015, 01:14:19 PM


You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.


right.  which means that, even if your lines are correct (which they won't even be close), we're essentially 9-10 pt. dogs against Baylor and 4-6 pts against TCU and OU.  we're getting points for home field adv
dont even try to explain any further. its pointless

So in trying to guess the line, we are supposed to ignore the 3-4 points given for homefield advantage?  Even though those games will be played at BSFS?  If the line is set at 6, we are not "essentially 9 point underdogs"   That doesn't make sense.  The home field advantage is factored in for a reason, namely, that it affects the outcome of games.  I think what you want to say is that K-State would be a 9 point dog on a neutral field.  I get that.  But it is irrelevant to the current conversation, because the game is being played at BSFS.

Don't even try to explain any further. It's pointless.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: kslim on September 30, 2015, 01:14:25 PM

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.


right.  which means that, even if your lines are correct (which they won't even be close), we're essentially 9-10 pt. dogs against Baylor and 4-6 pts against TCU and OU.  we're getting points for home field adv
dont even try to explain any further. its pointless

So in trying to guess the line, we are supposed to ignore the 3-4 points given for homefield advantage?  Even though those games will be played at BSFS?  If the line is set at 6, we are not "essentially 9 point underdogs"   That doesn't make sense.  The home field advantage is factored in for a reason, namely, that it affects the outcome of games.  I think what you want to say is that K-State would be a 9 point dog on a neutral field.  I get that.  But it is irrelevant to the current conversation, because the game is being played at BSFS.
my point was they give us three for all three of those games. the line will be higher because of that. with that said no way in hell are we 1-3 point dogs against tcu or ou. its going to most likely be in the 8-10 range
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 30, 2015, 01:45:46 PM

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.


right.  which means that, even if your lines are correct (which they won't even be close), we're essentially 9-10 pt. dogs against Baylor and 4-6 pts against TCU and OU.  we're getting points for home field adv
dont even try to explain any further. its pointless

So in trying to guess the line, we are supposed to ignore the 3-4 points given for homefield advantage?  Even though those games will be played at BSFS?  If the line is set at 6, we are not "essentially 9 point underdogs"   That doesn't make sense.  The home field advantage is factored in for a reason, namely, that it affects the outcome of games.  I think what you want to say is that K-State would be a 9 point dog on a neutral field.  I get that.  But it is irrelevant to the current conversation, because the game is being played at BSFS.
my point was they give us three for all three of those games. the line will be higher because of that. with that said no way in hell are we 1-3 point dogs against tcu or ou. its going to most likely be in the 8-10 range

When you are getting 3 points as the underdog, the line gets lower.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 30, 2015, 01:59:06 PM

When you are getting 3 points as the underdog, the line gets lower.

yes.  the moral of the story is that these teams are better than us and wins against them will be upsets. 

thank god we have them at home. 
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on September 30, 2015, 02:13:37 PM
Jfc, all of you shut up.

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Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2015, 02:16:48 PM
Jfc, all of you shut up.

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Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 30, 2015, 04:02:04 PM
TCUs offense has been absolute dog crap outside of Texas the last couple of years and their defense is completely decimated. We're either going to win that game or it will be very close.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: GregKSU1027 on September 30, 2015, 04:18:08 PM
If bazooka joe tells the coaches we need to throw the ball more  :crossfingers: and we don't let the dimel duo tear us apart  :flush:. we win 2 of the next 3. Also hopefully we don't go into any more triple overtime games. Otherwise Go Cats!  :emawkid:
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: dmartin on September 30, 2015, 04:20:52 PM
If bazooka joe tells the coaches we need to throw the ball more  :crossfingers: and we don't let the dimel duo tear us apart  :flush:. we win 2 of the next 3. Also hopefully we don't go into any more triple overtime games. Otherwise Go Cats!  :emawkid:

I don't know, if you told me the TCU game was going to be a triple overtime game, than at least I know it is going to be a close game.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: GregKSU1027 on September 30, 2015, 04:25:16 PM
If bazooka joe tells the coaches we need to throw the ball more  :crossfingers: and we don't let the dimel duo tear us apart  :flush:. we win 2 of the next 3. Also hopefully we don't go into any more triple overtime games. Otherwise Go Cats!  :emawkid:

I don't know, if you told me the TCU game was going to be a triple overtime game, than at least I know it is going to be a close game.
No human being should have to sit through a triple overtime game again with Daddy Dimel calling the shots for the wildcat and little baby dimel against TCU. Talk about ultimate amount of stress. Close games in general especially against one of the top two teams in the confy and top 10 in the nation.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: kslim on October 04, 2015, 07:54:26 PM
Thoughts steffy?
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2015, 09:53:43 PM
I've already prepared my wife for the beating we're going to take on Saturday night.
Title: Question for you guys
Post by: ColomboLQ on October 04, 2015, 10:44:15 PM
Hey all, I'm a Baylor fan that is traveling with a friend this weekend to Lawrence for the Kansas game. Since this is a morning game, and your game is at night, we have decided to go to the TCU game in Manhattan that night. I have a few questions for you guys:

1. What is the visiting section of the stadium (I want to avoid this at all costs)?

2. Where is the best place to park?

3. Where is the best place to tailgate/hang out and see festivities before hand?

4. Anything else I should know before going?

I'll be cheering for you guys, good luck this weekend!
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 04, 2015, 10:46:16 PM
South east corner is the visiting section.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Pete on October 04, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
I am going to watch us in the Cactus Bowl from a sports bar in Cancun.  Really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Question for you guys
Post by: The Big Train on October 04, 2015, 11:01:51 PM
Hey all, I'm a Baylor fan that is traveling with a friend this weekend to Lawrence for the Kansas game. Since this is a morning game, and your game is at night, we have decided to go to the TCU game in Manhattan that night. I have a few questions for you guys:

1. What is the visiting section of the stadium (I want to avoid this at all costs)?

2. Where is the best place to park?

3. Where is the best place to tailgate/hang out and see festivities before hand?

4. Anything else I should know before going?

I'll be cheering for you guys, good luck this weekend!

1. wacky said it
2. pretty much anywhere within a quarter mile of the stadium(if you can find a spot), but probably the ag lots north of the stadium(thats where i tailgate)
3. basically anywhere within a quarter mile of the stadium
4. we still hate your guts from 3 years ago

have fun and go cats
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Katpappy on October 05, 2015, 02:46:38 AM
 :Lurk:
I've already prepared my wife for the beating we're going to take on Saturday night.

Was this because she's white.   :horrorsurprise:
And what instrument did you use?  :eye:
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Steffy08 on October 05, 2015, 11:36:59 AM
Thoughts steffy?

Yep, I had it pretty close.

The line opened at 6.5, which is higher than my 1-3, but I also said you have to take in to account that last weekend's results might change the spread.

TCU opened at 17 point favorites verses UT, and won by 43.  So, they outperformed by 26 points against UT.  When you take 26 divided by 5 (TCU total games), TCU looks like about a five-point better team than they were this time last week.

We opened at 4 point dogs verses OSU, and we lost by 2.  Which means we outperformed by 6 points.  When you take 6 points divided by 4 (KSU total games), KSU looks like about a 1.5 point better team than they were this time last week.

So, TCU is 5 points better this week, and KSU is 1.5 points better this week.  Which means TCU is going to get an extra 3.5 points this week as compared to last week.

So, if you take 6.5 (opening line this week) minus the 3.5 adjustment for last week games, you get TCU -3.  Which is what I predicted, subject to the events of this weekend.  (Not to mention, the line is probably inflated a little bit by the fact that we played most of last weekend with an fn wr at QB, and then he got hurt.)
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Functianalyst on October 05, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
for some reason that makes no rough ridin' sense, i think our best chance is against TCU
I agree, after how we played this weekend in Stillwater, I think we get one of these in Manhattan and it could come this weekend.
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: kslim on November 10, 2015, 02:08:45 PM
Thoughts steffy?

Yep, I had it pretty close.

The line opened at 6.5, which is higher than my 1-3, but I also said you have to take in to account that last weekend's results might change the spread.

TCU opened at 17 point favorites verses UT, and won by 43.  So, they outperformed by 26 points against UT.  When you take 26 divided by 5 (TCU total games), TCU looks like about a five-point better team than they were this time last week.

We opened at 4 point dogs verses OSU, and we lost by 2.  Which means we outperformed by 6 points.  When you take 6 points divided by 4 (KSU total games), KSU looks like about a 1.5 point better team than they were this time last week.

So, TCU is 5 points better this week, and KSU is 1.5 points better this week.  Which means TCU is going to get an extra 3.5 points this week as compared to last week.

So, if you take 6.5 (opening line this week) minus the 3.5 adjustment for last week games, you get TCU -3.  Which is what I predicted, subject to the events of this weekend.  (Not to mention, the line is probably inflated a little bit by the fact that we played most of last weekend with an fn wr at QB, and then he got hurt.)
yep you rough ridin' nailed it. anyway i guess this is a relevant thread again. will we win one of the next three?
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: The Big Train on November 14, 2015, 10:16:22 AM
WE FIND OUT TODAY  :driving:
Title: Re: we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 14, 2015, 02:48:14 PM
Thoughts steffy?

Yep, I had it pretty close.

The line opened at 6.5, which is higher than my 1-3, but I also said you have to take in to account that last weekend's results might change the spread.

TCU opened at 17 point favorites verses UT, and won by 43.  So, they outperformed by 26 points against UT.  When you take 26 divided by 5 (TCU total games), TCU looks like about a five-point better team than they were this time last week.

We opened at 4 point dogs verses OSU, and we lost by 2.  Which means we outperformed by 6 points.  When you take 6 points divided by 4 (KSU total games), KSU looks like about a 1.5 point better team than they were this time last week.

So, TCU is 5 points better this week, and KSU is 1.5 points better this week.  Which means TCU is going to get an extra 3.5 points this week as compared to last week.

So, if you take 6.5 (opening line this week) minus the 3.5 adjustment for last week games, you get TCU -3.  Which is what I predicted, subject to the events of this weekend.  (Not to mention, the line is probably inflated a little bit by the fact that we played most of last weekend with an fn wr at QB, and then he got hurt.)
yep you rough ridin' nailed it. anyway i guess this is a relevant thread again. will we win one of the next three?

I'm hoping for 2 of the next 3,   :crossfingers: although today probably won't be one of them