we've got to get 1 out of the next 3 ..........

[wetwillie]

Anyone who thinks any team on our  schedule other than Baylor is unbeatable is either still melting down from last week or hasn't watched any Big 12 games other than K-State's.

Baylor at home on Thursday night with 55,000 boozecats is not unwinnable

[Canary]

Anyone who thinks any team on our  schedule other than Baylor is unbeatable is either still melting down from last week or hasn't watched any Big 12 games other than K-State's.

Baylor at home on Thursday night with 55,000 boozecats is not unwinnable

I agree.  Even though I have not enjoyed the outcome of most of our most recent previous Thursday evening games.

[cfbandyman]

Thursday night games are pretty hit or miss

2010 vs Nubbs  (still my least favorite game of DoD2)
2010 vs KU: Tremaine 
2014 vs Auburn 

[Canary]

Thursday night games are pretty hit or miss

2010 vs Nubbs  (still my least favorite game of DoD2)
2010 vs KU: Tremaine 
2014 vs Auburn 

I actually had forgotten about the ku game a few years ago. 

[MixBerryCrunch]

Didn't we beat WVU on Thursday last year?

[wetwillie]

I thought it was against geno two years ago

[Belvis Noland]

6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   

How would you define an "upset win"?

A game we're clearly not expected to win.

I'd say KU, ISU are gimmes. UT OSU TT WVU are tossups - may not be favored in those games, but a W wouldn't surprise many people. 

Baylor, OU, TCU would be upsets.  We'll be decent dogs in all games and will turn heads if we win these. 

[Pete]

6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   

How would you define an "upset win"?

Beating a team that finishes ahead of us in the big 12 standings.

That, and any game where we are not favored.

[catastrophe]

Didn't we beat WVU on Thursday last year?

This is correct.  Not a home game, but a fun watch.

[Pete]

Anyone who thinks any team on our  schedule other than Baylor is unbeatable is either still melting down from last week or hasn't watched any Big 12 games other than K-State's.

I am not as good at X and O-ing as some of you guys, but in my estimation our offense is terrible and our defense is average.  To me (non-expert), it is very difficult to think of a scenario where we beat TCU, OU, and BU.  I'd call them all unbeatable (by KSU).

But, hey if we beat everyone else we still have a banner year.

I just happen to think we only win 3 more, but again, that is because I believe our offense to be terrible and our defense merely average.

[Trim]

6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   

How would you define an "upset win"?

Beating a team that finishes ahead of us in the big 12 standings.

That, and any game where we are not favored.

Winning a game we weren't favored in just means the line was wrong, as gets proven when the season's over and every team we lost to is ahead of us and every team we beat is behind us, and we're settled in right at the threshold of relevance.

[MakeItRain]

I totally get the teeth gnashing and bitching about the close win against Louisiana Tech. 3 mean it's not like we ever have a game in the non con where we aren't as sharp, uncharted territory. It's also disconcerting because every other damn team in the conference and top 25 have looked awesome in the non con this year.

Everyone has been awesome but us, KU, and ISU; we're mumped.

[catzacker]

Anyone who thinks any team on our  schedule other than Baylor is unbeatable is either still melting down from last week or hasn't watched any Big 12 games other than K-State's.

I am not as good at X and O-ing as some of you guys, but in my estimation our offense is terrible and our defense is average.  To me (non-expert), it is very difficult to think of a scenario where we beat TCU, OU, and BU.  I'd call them all unbeatable (by KSU).

But, hey if we beat everyone else we still have a banner year.

I just happen to think we only win 3 more, but again, that is because I believe our offense to be terrible and our defense merely average.

I agree with this. The offense has been kind of shitty in all the non cons, imo. It's not just some freak out because of LaTech.

[Steffy08]

6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   

How would you define an "upset win"?

A game we're clearly not expected to win.

I'd say KU, ISU are gimmes. UT OSU TT WVU are tossups - may not be favored in those games, but a W wouldn't surprise many people. 

Baylor, OU, TCU would be upsets.  We'll be decent dogs in all games and will turn heads if we win these.

This could change this weekend, but as of now we would not be huge dogs to Tcu or ou....and also just a single digit verses Baylor.

[Belvis Noland]

This could change this weekend, but as of now we would not be huge dogs to Tcu or ou....and also just a single digit verses Baylor.

If you're a 9pt dog at home, that's not very good. 

[kslim]

6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   

How would you define an "upset win"?

A game we're clearly not expected to win.

I'd say KU, ISU are gimmes. UT OSU TT WVU are tossups - may not be favored in those games, but a W wouldn't surprise many people. 

Baylor, OU, TCU would be upsets.  We'll be decent dogs in all games and will turn heads if we win these.

This could change this weekend, but as of now we would not be huge dogs to Tcu or ou....and also just a single digit verses Baylor.

home team automatically gets three points so i think you are wrong about single digits.

[Steffy08]

6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   

How would you define an "upset win"?

A game we're clearly not expected to win.

I'd say KU, ISU are gimmes. UT OSU TT WVU are tossups - may not be favored in those games, but a W wouldn't surprise many people. 

Baylor, OU, TCU would be upsets.  We'll be decent dogs in all games and will turn heads if we win these.

This could change this weekend, but as of now we would not be huge dogs to Tcu or ou....and also just a single digit verses Baylor.

home team automatically gets three points so i think you are wrong about single digits.

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

Of course, all of this will have to be adjusted based on future results.  Vegas knows that TCU is not that great right now.  Their slim victory over Minnesota looks very bad; and the fact that they struggled somewhat with SMU as well.  Just decimated by injuries.  I really hope TCU wins this weekend; it would be a great chance for us to knock off a highly ranked, but overrated, team.

[kslim]

6 wins feels about right.  7 would require an "upset win" and no "upset losses."

hopefully we have 6 with KU, ISU, WVU.  I don't think @UT, @OSU are "upset wins."   

How would you define an "upset win"?

A game we're clearly not expected to win.

I'd say KU, ISU are gimmes. UT OSU TT WVU are tossups - may not be favored in those games, but a W wouldn't surprise many people. 

Baylor, OU, TCU would be upsets.  We'll be decent dogs in all games and will turn heads if we win these.

This could change this weekend, but as of now we would not be huge dogs to Tcu or ou....and also just a single digit verses Baylor.

home team automatically gets three points so i think you are wrong about single digits.

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

Of course, all of this will have to be adjusted based on future results.  Vegas knows that TCU is not that great right now.  Their slim victory over Minnesota looks very bad; and the fact that they struggled somewhat with SMU as well.  Just decimated by injuries.  I really hope TCU wins this weekend; it would be a great chance for us to knock off a highly ranked, but overrated, team.

no rough ridin' way

[Panjandrum]

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

I bet the line against Baylor would be 10+, and TCU would be 8-9.  OU would probably be 6-7.

OU is easily the most winnable game in that group.

[Trim]

K-State Football: Not a heavy underdog!

[Belvis Noland]

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

right.  which means that, even if your lines are correct (which they won't even be close), we're essentially 9-10 pt. dogs against Baylor and 4-6 pts against TCU and OU.  we're getting points for home field adv

[kslim]

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

right.  which means that, even if your lines are correct (which they won't even be close), we're essentially 9-10 pt. dogs against Baylor and 4-6 pts against TCU and OU.  we're getting points for home field adv

dont even try to explain any further. its pointless

[Rage Against the McKee]

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

I bet the line against Baylor would be 10+, and TCU would be 8-9.  OU would probably be 6-7.

OU is easily the most winnable game in that group.

I see OU as the hardest of the 3.

[Steffy08]

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

right.  which means that, even if your lines are correct (which they won't even be close), we're essentially 9-10 pt. dogs against Baylor and 4-6 pts against TCU and OU.  we're getting points for home field adv

dont even try to explain any further. its pointless

So in trying to guess the line, we are supposed to ignore the 3-4 points given for homefield advantage?  Even though those games will be played at BSFS?  If the line is set at 6, we are not "essentially 9 point underdogs"   That doesn't make sense.  The home field advantage is factored in for a reason, namely, that it affects the outcome of games.  I think what you want to say is that K-State would be a 9 point dog on a neutral field.  I get that.  But it is irrelevant to the current conversation, because the game is being played at BSFS.

[catastrophe]

You do know we are playing the Baylor game in Manhattan, right?

Right now, I would guess we would be about 6-7 point dog against Baylor.

About 1-3 point dog against TCU and OU.

right.  which means that, even if your lines are correct (which they won't even be close), we're essentially 9-10 pt. dogs against Baylor and 4-6 pts against TCU and OU.  we're getting points for home field adv

dont even try to explain any further. its pointless

So in trying to guess the line, we are supposed to ignore the 3-4 points given for homefield advantage?  Even though those games will be played at BSFS?  If the line is set at 6, we are not "essentially 9 point underdogs"   That doesn't make sense.  The home field advantage is factored in for a reason, namely, that it affects the outcome of games.  I think what you want to say is that K-State would be a 9 point dog on a neutral field.  I get that.  But it is irrelevant to the current conversation, because the game is being played at BSFS.

Don't even try to explain any further. It's pointless.