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Title: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 08, 2015, 09:38:18 AM
let's keep this to discussing oscar Weber's replacement.   Name names, give bios etc. etc.

BTW, I believe I saw that Brad Underwood became the winningest 2nd year coach in NCAA history yesterday. 

Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: j rake on March 08, 2015, 09:39:45 AM
kelvin "cellvin" sampson
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 08, 2015, 10:29:17 AM
I mean, it has to be Underwood, right?

And pay whatever it takes to get Gottlieb on his staff.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: PowercatPat on March 08, 2015, 10:37:57 AM
let's keep this to discussing oscar Weber's replacement.   Name names, give bios etc. etc.

BTW, I believe I saw that Brad Underwood became the winningest 2nd year coach in NCAA history yesterday.

https://twitter.com/SFA_MBB/status/574425873283047424
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: wetwillie on March 08, 2015, 10:49:45 AM
Underwood HC  gottlieb, pastrana, white tiger AC's.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: BackPayne on March 08, 2015, 11:15:15 AM
Sean Snyder
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: sys on March 08, 2015, 11:30:29 AM
i'd really like for underwood to happen.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: OK_Cat on March 08, 2015, 12:32:32 PM
You guys keep forgetting that underwood hates currie
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2015, 12:35:20 PM
Why would you fire a guy who just had a season basically equal to his last one before he came here? This is what we hired him to do.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: pissclams on March 08, 2015, 01:52:42 PM
capel
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: sys on March 08, 2015, 02:08:37 PM
Why would you fire a guy who just had a season basically equal to his last one before he came here? This is what we hired him to do.

there are lots of people that didn't think he should have been hired in the first place.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Why would you fire a guy who just had a season basically equal to his last one before he came here? This is what we hired him to do.

there are lots of people that didn't think he should have been hired in the first place.

well, yeah. But not people that would be in charge of letting him go.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: sys on March 08, 2015, 02:14:14 PM
well, yeah. But not people that would be in charge of letting him go.

i don't think those people are going to post in this thread.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: hemmy on March 08, 2015, 02:26:16 PM
Why would you fire a guy who just had a season basically equal to his last one before he came here? This is what we hired him to do.

You are trying way too hard.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Cire on March 08, 2015, 02:28:45 PM
Has to be BU.    Still not convinced he'd come
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2015, 02:32:19 PM
Why would you fire a guy who just had a season basically equal to his last one before he came here? This is what we hired him to do.

You are trying way too hard.
I'm just wondering why anyone thinks there's a remote chance oscar would get fired. There's no justification for it based on what we knew about oscar before we hired him.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: sys on March 08, 2015, 02:42:02 PM
no one thinks he's going to be fired.  it's just a way to fantasize about alternate realities.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: kso_FAN on March 08, 2015, 02:43:58 PM

no one thinks he's going to be fired.  it's just a way to fantasize about alternate realities.

He's not going to get fired and to the people that matter his seat probably isn't even warm. I thought everyone knew that.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: j rake on March 08, 2015, 02:49:13 PM
tom crean is 120-107 overall (49-75 Big Ten) in seven years at indiana, has two ncaa tourney appearances, and has finished better than fifth in the Big Ten only once. last year, he finished tied for eighth. this year, seventh. he's likely to miss the tourney again this year.

and he'll almost surely be back for an eighth season.

oscar probably has similar job security, we just don't know it yet.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2015, 02:49:22 PM
no one thinks he's going to be fired.  it's just a way to fantasize about alternate realities.
In that case, let's hope Brad Stevens gets fired from the Celtics! He'd be awesome.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: chum1 on March 08, 2015, 02:50:50 PM
oscar MUST be fired because he doesn't win enough AND also lacks the integrity of a true K-Stater. He speaks poorly of players in interviews, has an awkward demeanor, and generally mismanages player relations. These attributes do not exemplify K-State values.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2015, 02:51:03 PM
tom crean is 120-107 overall (49-75 Big Ten) in seven years at indiana, has two ncaa tourney appearances, and has finished better than fifth in the Big Ten only once. last year, he finished tied for eighth. this year, seventh. he's likely to miss the tourney again this year.

and he'll almost surely be back for an eighth season.

oscar probably has similar job security, we just don't know it yet.
Yeah I didn't realize he only had two tourney appearances in seven until I read that vote of confidence article. I know they were in some crap when he arrived, but man.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: j rake on March 08, 2015, 03:01:02 PM
Yeah I didn't realize he only had two tourney appearances in seven until I read that vote of confidence article. I know they were in some crap when he arrived, but man.

he did inherit a mess, so it's probably unfair to look at his indiana tenure in full. but even if you remove the first two years of the rebuild (it shouldn't have taken four), he's still just 44-46 in league play w/ back-to-back ncaa tourney misses.

as you know, our beloved oscar never misses B2B tourneys.

and never will  :fatty:
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2015, 03:12:56 PM
capel
Warming to this.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 08, 2015, 03:20:40 PM
I'd like to see us hire Coach K or Billy Donovan
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: j rake on March 08, 2015, 03:25:03 PM
capel
Warming to this.

three sub-.500 records in b12 play, two ncaa tourney appearances in five years, and skirmishes with the ncaa.

if he can bring blake griffin types to k-state, sure! but he probably can't.

Quote from: 2009
Unfortunately, injuries and off-court issues plagued the Sooners and the team failed to live up to expectations. Capel led Oklahoma to a 13-18 record in the 2009-2010 season, the first losing season at Oklahoma since 1981. The Sooners ended the season with nine straight losses, the longest losing streak at Oklahoma in 41 years.

Quote from: 2010
Five underclassmen left the program in the offseason and Capel was forced to play mostly unheralded leftovers and newcomers. Oklahoma went 14-18, attendance dropped significantly, and Capel was fired in March 2011.[6] While enjoying a 30-win season and an Elite 8 appearance, Capel's tenure at Oklahoma is generally regarded by Sooner fans as a disappointment.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 08, 2015, 03:29:51 PM
I'd also be fine with Jay Wright or Jaime Dixon.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2015, 03:31:00 PM
Jay, yes. Jamie, nope.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 08, 2015, 04:08:44 PM
Don't discount Currie's relationship with oscar Pearl. Also, Auburn is down the tiers in the SEC conference.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: sys on March 08, 2015, 04:13:22 PM
i only want underwood and that's it.  besides, that's the point of this thread.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: renocat on March 08, 2015, 04:14:51 PM
Providing oscar does not go the Bill Self school of remedial coaching or we give him another chance out of kindnes, I would vote foe Bryce Drew at Valparaiso.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: sys on March 08, 2015, 04:16:53 PM
anyone who didn't pick underwood is kicked out of this thread.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Rock Lobster on March 08, 2015, 04:20:26 PM
anyone who didn't pick underwood is kicked out of this thread.

I definitely want Underwood. Here's a question:

Just imagine that oscar got fired at the end of next year :erection:
Are there any schools that you could realistically see Brad going to after this season that would make it tough to hire him next year?

The longer oscar is here the less available Brad becomes. I know everyone knows that. Just saying.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: wetwillie on March 08, 2015, 04:23:47 PM
I wish we could out people that buy season tickets for the 15-16 season.  tattoo a big oscar face on them.  they are on this board even I bet.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Skipper44 on March 08, 2015, 04:34:33 PM
I wish we could out people that buy season tickets for the 15-16 season.  tattoo a big oscar face on them.  they are on this board even I bet.
I have gone from buying great seats in sec 18 during the Frank years to the cheapest seats possible this season via a faculty hook up.  I want oscar gone in the worst way but the actual commitment of purchasing season tickets is the only way me and my group will actually make it up to a few games.  One "positive" of Bruceketball is almost every home game is competitive irregardless of the competition.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2015, 04:52:56 PM
Save us Brad
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 08, 2015, 05:03:00 PM
Save us Brad
How many season tickets would you buy if Brad became HC?  I'd replace my girlfriends birth control with breath mints just to start making reasons to buy more season tickets.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: wetwillie on March 08, 2015, 05:07:09 PM
I wish we could out people that buy season tickets for the 15-16 season.  tattoo a big oscar face on them.  they are on this board even I bet.
I have gone from buying great seats in sec 18 during the Frank years to the cheapest seats possible this season via a faculty hook up.  I want oscar gone in the worst way but the actual commitment of purchasing season tickets is the only way me and my group will actually make it up to a few games.  One "positive" of Bruceketball is almost every home game is competitive irregardless of the competition.

:frown:
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: ksufan44 on March 08, 2015, 05:16:26 PM
tom crean is 120-107 overall (49-75 Big Ten) in seven years at indiana, has two ncaa tourney appearances, and has finished better than fifth in the Big Ten only once. last year, he finished tied for eighth. this year, seventh. he's likely to miss the tourney again this year.

and he'll almost surely be back for an eighth season.

oscar probably has similar job security, we just don't know it yet.

Here in Bloomington, people have set up a buyout clock website (http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/03/05/indiana-tom-crean-buyout-clock) for Crean. Just because their football program is a dumpster fire, of course he will be back. K-State doesn't have to have that...
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Benja on March 08, 2015, 05:38:50 PM
well, yeah. But not people that would be in charge of letting him go.

i don't think those people are going to post in this thread.

lol
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2015, 05:41:48 PM
anyone who didn't pick underwood is kicked out of this thread.
Sorry, I choose the better Brad
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Benja on March 08, 2015, 05:42:14 PM
Can Underwood recruit? He seems very x and o-sy but I dunno
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 08, 2015, 06:20:29 PM
Can Underwood recruit? He seems very x and o-sy but I dunno

Tis why the pipe dream involves Gottlieb on his staff to bring in the super studs.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2015, 06:32:08 PM
If you think Gottlieb can recruit, he should be head coach.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: tdaver on March 08, 2015, 06:42:46 PM
I wish we could out people that buy season tickets for the 15-16 season.  tattoo a big oscar face on them.  they are on this board even I bet.

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Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: nicname on March 08, 2015, 07:35:22 PM
If you think Gottlieb can recruit, he should be head coach.

Gotts comes in as an assistant aka stud recruiter and stays for a 3 or 4 years before taking the OSU job. Cats and Cowboys best buds who run roughshod over the B12 for eternity.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on March 08, 2015, 07:58:42 PM
You guys keep forgetting that underwood hates currie

I've gotten word from some ITK peeps that there's been some work going on behind the scenes to repair this issue...

 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2015, 08:06:24 PM
If you think Gottlieb can recruit, he should be head coach.

Gotts comes in as an assistant aka stud recruiter and stays for a 3 or 4 years before taking the OSU job. Cats and Cowboys best buds who run roughshod over the B12 for eternity.
Or, you just make him our head coach.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on March 08, 2015, 08:14:10 PM
tom crean is 120-107 overall (49-75 Big Ten) in seven years at indiana, has two ncaa tourney appearances, and has finished better than fifth in the Big Ten only once. last year, he finished tied for eighth. this year, seventh. he's likely to miss the tourney again this year.

and he'll almost surely be back for an eighth season.

oscar probably has similar job security, we just don't know it yet.

SLTH
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Trim on March 08, 2015, 08:28:12 PM
You guys keep forgetting that underwood hates currie

I've gotten word from some ITK peeps that there's been some work going on behind the scenes to repair this issue...

 :buh-bye:

Currie's getting canned?
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Cire on March 08, 2015, 08:45:48 PM
If Marshall leaves wsu how much do they offer brad
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2015, 08:55:43 PM
If Marshall leaves wsu how much do they offer brad

I don't know why Marshall would ever leave WSU. It's a new ballgame - he's in better shape than basically all non-blue bloods.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Skipper44 on March 08, 2015, 09:00:51 PM
Yeah, we need Texas to play well this week #hookem
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Cire on March 08, 2015, 09:06:18 PM
If Marshall leaves wsu how much do they offer brad

I don't know why Marshall would ever leave WSU. It's a new ballgame - he's in better shape than basically all non-blue bloods.
Ego. 
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: bones129 on March 09, 2015, 12:27:45 AM
If Marshall leaves wsu how much do they offer brad

I don't know why Marshall would ever leave WSU. It's a new ballgame - he's in better shape than basically all non-blue bloods.
Ego.

And I'll bet Marshall has plenty of ego.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2015, 12:30:31 AM
All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: bones129 on March 09, 2015, 12:33:57 AM
All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

Agreed. Marshall has it made where he is. But it will be hard for him to resist the school that wants to dump millions more than WSU can afford in his lap.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: star seed 7 on March 09, 2015, 12:36:58 AM
All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

basketball is so weird
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2015, 12:39:16 AM


All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

Agreed. Marshall has it made where he is. But it will be hard for him to resist the school that wants to dump millions more than WSU can afford in his lap.

There aren't many non blue bloods that will do that, considering he's already pretty close to $2 million. And the security/goodwill he's built up in Wichita is worth a lot. Rebuilding ain't easy.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: j rake on March 09, 2015, 12:54:02 AM
i'll add another possible candidate...

chris jans, current bowling green coach, would be a home-run hire for k-state. in his first season at bgsu, he's led them to a 19-10 (11-7 MAC) record and has a chance to reach 20 wins if they win as expected on monday. bowling's kenpom rating is 86th, highest in more than a decade, after being mostly in the 150s to 240s the last 10 years. the turnaround has been far quicker than anybody could have expected.

jans spent eight years working as an assistant under marshall at wichita, and also had a previous stint at independence, so he's very familiar with kansas. he's been a head coach at five schools (one or two year stints at all), and is 175-51 overall (he's never won fewer than 20 games at any stop, and has 25-plus wins in four of seven seasons).

anyway, the guy is impressive. would be a good option for 2016-17.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdn0CKYXcAg
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: nicname on March 09, 2015, 04:05:53 AM
Jans is pretty good. Boring, slow bball though. <---- not really so boring if you're good.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Headinjun on March 09, 2015, 04:52:13 AM
I'd take Marshall. 

He's better than oscar.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Cire on March 09, 2015, 05:46:15 AM


All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

Agreed. Marshall has it made where he is. But it will be hard for him to resist the school that wants to dump millions more than WSU can afford in his lap.

There aren't many non blue bloods that will do that, considering he's already pretty close to $2 million. And the security/goodwill he's built up in Wichita is worth a lot. Rebuilding ain't easy.
I was thinking Indiana, Texas.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: wetwillie on March 09, 2015, 06:49:58 AM


All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

Agreed. Marshall has it made where he is. But it will be hard for him to resist the school that wants to dump millions more than WSU can afford in his lap.

There aren't many non blue bloods that will do that, considering he's already pretty close to $2 million. And the security/goodwill he's built up in Wichita is worth a lot. Rebuilding ain't easy.
I was thinking Indiana, Texas.


Double G Gregg wouldn't make it through his first press conference at texas.  He couldn't even handle the limelight when they got themselves a 1 seed.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 09, 2015, 08:37:56 AM
Kevin Keatts at UNCW might be one to keep an eye on, prior to UNCW he was the Associate HC at Louisville.  He took the same team that Buzz Peterson couldn't do a thing with and they finished 2nd in the CAA and will likely go to the NIT.   
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2015, 12:16:57 PM
The play-by-play guy at WSU seems to think that Marshall would have interest in Texas. Gregg would build an absolute monster at UT, would be scary. I bet he would take this year's team and make them at least 5 games better.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Skipper44 on March 09, 2015, 12:24:33 PM
The play-by-play guy at WSU seems to think that Marshall would have interest in Texas. Gregg would build an absolute monster at UT, would be scary. I bet he would take this year's team and make them at least 5 games better.
and his "abrasive" personality would be a better fit there than most blue bloods imo.  Really, his act (or anyone's for that matter) will be accepted as long as he wins.  Hell, the hard core UT bb fans will embrace Gregg's total departure from Barnes' cool and detached style.  I just hope UT's AD doesn't rely on his NBA background goes with a Kevin O'Neill or Eddie Jordan type.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: catastrophe on March 09, 2015, 12:41:59 PM


All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

Agreed. Marshall has it made where he is. But it will be hard for him to resist the school that wants to dump millions more than WSU can afford in his lap.

There aren't many non blue bloods that will do that, considering he's already pretty close to $2 million. And the security/goodwill he's built up in Wichita is worth a lot. Rebuilding ain't easy.

I think this is about right.  Don't forget that no college program could successfully lure Brad Stevens away either.  Basketball simply is not THAT big of a revenue generator, even for the largest schools.  To the extent most bigger schools could afford to pay more than $2 million to a BBall coach, that money is going toward getting a better FB coach or facilities since FB is probably 90% of what drives conference alignment, TV revenue, etc.

Unless Marshall is just sick of living in Wichita, I do not see why he would go anywhere else at least at the college level.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: catastrophe on March 09, 2015, 12:44:21 PM
The play-by-play guy at WSU seems to think that Marshall would have interest in Texas. Gregg would build an absolute monster at UT, would be scary. I bet he would take this year's team and make them at least 5 games better.
and his "abrasive" personality would be a better fit there than most blue bloods imo.  Really, his act (or anyone's for that matter) will be accepted as long as he wins.  Hell, the hard core UT bb fans will embrace Gregg's total departure from Barnes' cool and detached style.  I just hope UT's AD doesn't rely on his NBA background goes with a Kevin O'Neill or Eddie Jordan type.

I doubt that all five or six of the "hardcore UT bb fans" would have much of an impact on a UT coaching search.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2015, 12:53:24 PM
The play-by-play guy at WSU seems to think that Marshall would have interest in Texas. Gregg would build an absolute monster at UT, would be scary. I bet he would take this year's team and make them at least 5 games better.
and his "abrasive" personality would be a better fit there than most blue bloods imo.  Really, his act (or anyone's for that matter) will be accepted as long as he wins.  Hell, the hard core UT bb fans will embrace Gregg's total departure from Barnes' cool and detached style.  I just hope UT's AD doesn't rely on his NBA background goes with a Kevin O'Neill or Eddie Jordan type.

I doubt that all five or six of the "hardcore UT bb fans" would have much of an impact on a UT coaching search.

we don't have to resort to lazy talking points here
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: kso_FAN on March 09, 2015, 12:57:26 PM
tom crean is 120-107 overall (49-75 Big Ten) in seven years at indiana, has two ncaa tourney appearances, and has finished better than fifth in the Big Ten only once. last year, he finished tied for eighth. this year, seventh. he's likely to miss the tourney again this year.

and he'll almost surely be back for an eighth season.

oscar probably has similar job security, we just don't know it yet.

Here in Bloomington, people have set up a buyout clock website (http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/03/05/indiana-tom-crean-buyout-clock) for Crean. Just because their football program is a dumpster fire, of course he will be back. K-State doesn't have to have that...

http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2015/3/9/8175545/indiana-basketball-fans-continue-to-have-no-chill-chant-tom-crean
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: j rake on March 09, 2015, 01:17:19 PM
i sent tom crean an email in 2009, complimenting his coaching job against oscar weber's illinois team.

indiana lost that game 65-52, fell behind by as many as 20, and didn't even cover the spread.

crean sent me this anyway... :lol:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrmDurY9.jpg&hash=398b8540e5803459284b4158ec1da2ea27752490)
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 09, 2015, 01:20:01 PM
tom crean is 120-107 overall (49-75 Big Ten) in seven years at indiana, has two ncaa tourney appearances, and has finished better than fifth in the Big Ten only once. last year, he finished tied for eighth. this year, seventh. he's likely to miss the tourney again this year.

and he'll almost surely be back for an eighth season.

oscar probably has similar job security, we just don't know it yet.

Here in Bloomington, people have set up a buyout clock website (http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/03/05/indiana-tom-crean-buyout-clock) for Crean. Just because their football program is a dumpster fire, of course he will be back. K-State doesn't have to have that...

http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2015/3/9/8175545/indiana-basketball-fans-continue-to-have-no-chill-chant-tom-crean
Indiana deserves bad basketball.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2015, 01:20:41 PM
i sent tom crean an email in 2009, complimenting his coaching job against oscar weber's illinois team.

indiana lost that game 65-52, fell behind by as many as 20, and didn't even cover the spread.

crean sent me this anyway... :lol:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrmDurY9.jpg&hash=398b8540e5803459284b4158ec1da2ea27752490)

you used to go on and on about what an amazing coach he was
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Trim on March 09, 2015, 01:21:52 PM
i sent tom crean an email in 2009, complimenting his coaching job against oscar weber's illinois team.

indiana lost that game 65-52, fell behind by as many as 20, and didn't even cover the spread.

crean sent me this anyway... :lol:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrmDurY9.jpg&hash=398b8540e5803459284b4158ec1da2ea27752490)

:lol:

OT: I have to share a "regular" story with you, but couldn't remember for sure what your @ was and didn't even know where to search for the original story on here.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 09, 2015, 01:25:38 PM
Marshall would leave for Indiana, right?
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: j rake on March 09, 2015, 01:26:23 PM
you used to go on and on about what an amazing coach he was

yeah, i love big ten hoops and really enjoyed that rebuild effort. i watched every iu game his first two seasons and it was fun watching him try to stay competitive despite being impossibly outmanned. his 2012-13 team was one of the top-50 rosters constructed in the history of college hoops imo, and the fact that he couldn't get them beyond the sweet 16 was definitely ugly - and very telling.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: j rake on March 09, 2015, 01:27:22 PM
OT: I have to share a "regular" story with you, but couldn't remember for sure what your @ was and didn't even know where to search for the original story on here.

PM!
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Trim on March 09, 2015, 01:32:42 PM
OT: I have to share a "regular" story with you, but couldn't remember for sure what your @ was and didn't even know where to search for the original story on here.

PM!

This'll work.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2FIMAG0507_zpsux5pxtae.jpg&hash=c37ab045b51f61828bbe8c100ae888dd18aaa7df) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/IMAG0507_zpsux5pxtae.jpg.html)

I stopped at this place last Friday after getting a 'cut from Sergio.  Ordered the Reg. Fish.  The order taker questioned me, "Regular?"  I confirmed, and he proceeds to scream to his fish prep guys "REGULAR, NEED A REGULAR!!!"  It was completely emasculating and I thought of you.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 09, 2015, 01:40:46 PM
Marshall would leave for Indiana, right?

Texas is a better Job, IMO.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Woogy on March 09, 2015, 02:00:25 PM
Indiana In-Laws here -

Yeah, they want Bobby Knight personality minus the chokeholds.  They would embrace Marshall.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2015, 02:07:28 PM
Indiana In-Laws here -

Yeah, they want Bobby Knight personality minus the chokeholds.  They would embrace Marshall.

Knight was tough and people were scared of him; Frank with lots more wins and less loveable, playing with a lawn X-Mas decoration moments. Marshall is incredibly whiny and paranoid, nothing about him connotes tough and feared.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: j rake on March 09, 2015, 02:18:35 PM
I stopped at this place last Friday after getting a 'cut from Sergio.  Ordered the Reg. Fish.  The order taker questioned me, "Regular?"  I confirmed, and he proceeds to scream to his fish prep guys "REGULAR, NEED A REGULAR!!!"  It was completely emasculating and I thought of you.

i've replaced 'regular' with 'normal-sized' in my vocabulary, btw.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 09, 2015, 02:24:18 PM
Friend of mine is an Indiana guy, 2 degrees, he thinks Crean gets another year.

I don't think he's a bad coach, I like his style of play, but he might be a slightly funner Weber.

11 mil buy out. Also built Indian back up only to have it fade away. They also should return everybody, need to stop playing that pathetic zone. Their defense is terrible.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Trim on March 09, 2015, 02:34:34 PM
I stopped at this place last Friday after getting a 'cut from Sergio.  Ordered the Reg. Fish.  The order taker questioned me, "Regular?"  I confirmed, and he proceeds to scream to his fish prep guys "REGULAR, NEED A REGULAR!!!"  It was completely emasculating and I thought of you.

i've replaced 'regular' with 'normal-sized' in my vocabulary, btw.

:tsc:

https://twitter.com/TheKidToben/status/24160174224

Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: j rake on March 09, 2015, 03:10:15 PM
I stopped at this place last Friday after getting a 'cut from Sergio.  Ordered the Reg. Fish.  The order taker questioned me, "Regular?"  I confirmed, and he proceeds to scream to his fish prep guys "REGULAR, NEED A REGULAR!!!"  It was completely emasculating and I thought of you.

i've replaced 'regular' with 'normal-sized' in my vocabulary, btw.

:tsc:

https://twitter.com/TheKidToben/status/24160174224

who the f*ck is john rake!?  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Trim on March 09, 2015, 03:41:52 PM
who the f*ck is john rake!?  :horrorsurprise:

John stepped into quite a rabbit hole.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: MakeItRain on March 09, 2015, 11:19:48 PM
Friend of mine is an Indiana guy, 2 degrees, he thinks Crean gets another year.

I don't think he's a bad coach, I like his style of play, but he might be a slightly funner Weber.

Yeah he's getting another year and it has nothing to do with his w-l record. They aren't paying that dude $11 million. The people of Indiana wake up every single day hoping that Crean does something stupid so that he can be fired with cause.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: bones129 on March 09, 2015, 11:24:21 PM
The entire state of Indiana would rejoice if Coach Knight came back for two years to "calm the waters."
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Trim on March 23, 2015, 07:57:47 PM
@j_rake

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/10/02/ioc_demands_oslo_drops_bid_after_over_the_top_list_of_requirements.html

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2Fregular%2520people.jpg_zpsbgr8upxx.png&hash=b89bb7cc139ea7ce70fb4b12543fd58cec5ebe48) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/regular%20people.jpg_zpsbgr8upxx.png.html)

Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: SdK on March 23, 2015, 08:45:19 PM
Hahahaha
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: j rake on April 02, 2015, 05:14:41 PM
i'll add another possible candidate...

chris jans, current bowling green coach, would be a home-run hire for k-state. in his first season at bgsu, he's led them to a 19-10 (11-7 MAC) record and has a chance to reach 20 wins if they win as expected on monday. bowling's kenpom rating is 86th, highest in more than a decade, after being mostly in the 150s to 240s the last 10 years. the turnaround has been far quicker than anybody could have expected.

jans spent eight years working as an assistant under marshall at wichita, and also had a previous stint at independence, so he's very familiar with kansas. he's been a head coach at five schools (one or two year stints at all), and is 175-51 overall (he's never won fewer than 20 games at any stop, and has 25-plus wins in four of seven seasons).

anyway, the guy is impressive. would be a good option for 2016-17.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdn0CKYXcAg

well, jans is now available!  :lol:

http://deadspin.com/heres-the-ass-slapping-video-that-got-bowling-greens-co-1695360858?rev=1428011946401&utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

EDIT: This is covered in another thread. Sorry.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on April 02, 2015, 05:19:05 PM
i'll add another possible candidate...

chris jans, current bowling green coach, would be a home-run hire for k-state. in his first season at bgsu, he's led them to a 19-10 (11-7 MAC) record and has a chance to reach 20 wins if they win as expected on monday. bowling's kenpom rating is 86th, highest in more than a decade, after being mostly in the 150s to 240s the last 10 years. the turnaround has been far quicker than anybody could have expected.

jans spent eight years working as an assistant under marshall at wichita, and also had a previous stint at independence, so he's very familiar with kansas. he's been a head coach at five schools (one or two year stints at all), and is 175-51 overall (he's never won fewer than 20 games at any stop, and has 25-plus wins in four of seven seasons).

anyway, the guy is impressive. would be a good option for 2016-17.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdn0CKYXcAg

well, jans is now available!  :lol:

http://deadspin.com/heres-the-ass-slapping-video-that-got-bowling-greens-co-1695360858?rev=1428011946401&utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

EDIT: This is covered in another thread. Sorry.

was it?
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Trim on April 02, 2015, 05:23:30 PM
i'll add another possible candidate...

chris jans, current bowling green coach, would be a home-run hire for k-state. in his first season at bgsu, he's led them to a 19-10 (11-7 MAC) record and has a chance to reach 20 wins if they win as expected on monday. bowling's kenpom rating is 86th, highest in more than a decade, after being mostly in the 150s to 240s the last 10 years. the turnaround has been far quicker than anybody could have expected.

jans spent eight years working as an assistant under marshall at wichita, and also had a previous stint at independence, so he's very familiar with kansas. he's been a head coach at five schools (one or two year stints at all), and is 175-51 overall (he's never won fewer than 20 games at any stop, and has 25-plus wins in four of seven seasons).

anyway, the guy is impressive. would be a good option for 2016-17.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdn0CKYXcAg

well, jans is now available!  :lol:

http://deadspin.com/heres-the-ass-slapping-video-that-got-bowling-greens-co-1695360858?rev=1428011946401&utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

EDIT: This is covered in another thread. Sorry.

LOL at the snitch's assessment of Jans not being able to handle the big-city temptation that exists at Bowling Green and that he was sheltered from in Wichita.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on April 02, 2015, 05:25:35 PM
i'll add another possible candidate...

chris jans, current bowling green coach, would be a home-run hire for k-state. in his first season at bgsu, he's led them to a 19-10 (11-7 MAC) record and has a chance to reach 20 wins if they win as expected on monday. bowling's kenpom rating is 86th, highest in more than a decade, after being mostly in the 150s to 240s the last 10 years. the turnaround has been far quicker than anybody could have expected.

jans spent eight years working as an assistant under marshall at wichita, and also had a previous stint at independence, so he's very familiar with kansas. he's been a head coach at five schools (one or two year stints at all), and is 175-51 overall (he's never won fewer than 20 games at any stop, and has 25-plus wins in four of seven seasons).

anyway, the guy is impressive. would be a good option for 2016-17.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdn0CKYXcAg

well, jans is now available!  :lol:

http://deadspin.com/heres-the-ass-slapping-video-that-got-bowling-greens-co-1695360858?rev=1428011946401&utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

EDIT: This is covered in another thread. Sorry.

LOL at the snitch's assessment of Jans not being able to handle the big-city temptation that exists at Bowling Green and that he was sheltered from in Wichita.

yes, Bowling Green is unique in that bars are close to campus
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Trim on April 02, 2015, 05:27:38 PM
i'll add another possible candidate...

chris jans, current bowling green coach, would be a home-run hire for k-state. in his first season at bgsu, he's led them to a 19-10 (11-7 MAC) record and has a chance to reach 20 wins if they win as expected on monday. bowling's kenpom rating is 86th, highest in more than a decade, after being mostly in the 150s to 240s the last 10 years. the turnaround has been far quicker than anybody could have expected.

jans spent eight years working as an assistant under marshall at wichita, and also had a previous stint at independence, so he's very familiar with kansas. he's been a head coach at five schools (one or two year stints at all), and is 175-51 overall (he's never won fewer than 20 games at any stop, and has 25-plus wins in four of seven seasons).

anyway, the guy is impressive. would be a good option for 2016-17.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdn0CKYXcAg

well, jans is now available!  :lol:

http://deadspin.com/heres-the-ass-slapping-video-that-got-bowling-greens-co-1695360858?rev=1428011946401&utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

EDIT: This is covered in another thread. Sorry.

LOL at the snitch's assessment of Jans not being able to handle the big-city temptation that exists at Bowling Green and that he was sheltered from in Wichita.

yes, Bowling Green is unique in that bars are close to campus

That was amazing.  If BG had known before today what kind of dipshit they were dealing with in the snitch, maybe they wouldn't have reacted to his tale like they did.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: sys on April 02, 2015, 09:40:26 PM
i wouldn't have fired him.  because the letter was so poorly written.  you want someone fired, reread and edit your rough ridin' letter before sending it off, for eff's sake.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: michigancat on April 02, 2015, 09:54:13 PM
i wouldn't have fired him.  because the letter was so poorly written.  you want someone fired, reread and edit your rough ridin' letter before sending it off, for eff's sake.
They said they didn't want him fired at some point. Maybe that explains the grammar
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: Mr Bread on April 03, 2015, 08:02:01 AM
Lot of enjoying each other's company going on. 
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: sys on April 03, 2015, 10:02:43 AM
They said they didn't want him fired at some point. Maybe that explains the grammar

they did a good job of writing a letter that reflected unfavorably on the university.
Title: Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
Post by: EMAWforever on April 03, 2015, 12:34:42 PM
Can we setup a gofundme for fire oscar and higher Brad.  Since Shaka is going to wipe our arses from now to eternity if we don't do something.