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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: massofcatfan on September 22, 2014, 02:35:03 PM
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I get that playing Auburn was cool, and that had we won, we would have been in a great position.
HOWEVER...had we played Ding-Dong Tech and won by 3 points, we would still be in control of our destiny. :billdance:
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wtf is this
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how do we not control our own destiny?
ill listen off the air
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This crap is mumped up.
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thursday's howevers belong to thursday
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Yeah, we win out, we're in. Nothing to see here folks!
CASE CLOSED!
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Ding dong tech fightin Richards
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the positives of playing one good power 5 non-con game per year outweigh the negatives, imo.
this year was perfect: an FCS team, an FBS pud, and a power 5.
maximum of one road non-con game, and only in seasons where we have five home conference games.
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Yeah, we win out, we're in. Nothing to see her folks!
CASE CLOSED!
:D
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we will have faced a team that is on par with the best two teams in our league while they havent been tested yet.
positive
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Playing in big time Non-con games is the great way to improve and promote the University. I think with the current state of college football we should concern our selves with improving the programs versus individual seasons.
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we will have faced a team that is on par with the best two teams in our league while they havent been tested yet.
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Does it matter if you lose all three?
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I have a feeling Mississippi St. will be pretty damn good by the time we face them down the road.
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:emawkid:
I have a feeling Mississippi St. will be pretty damn good by the time we face them down the road.
I could also see Dan Mullen coaching at Florida next year, forever changing Mississippi St. future.
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how do we not control our own destiny?
ill listen off the air
Technically speaking, the nobody except the selection committee controls anyone's destiny.
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how do we not control our own destiny?
ill listen off the air
Technically speaking, the nobody except the selection committee controls anyone's destiny.
I think if Baylor and the qatz can run the table in the big 12, that final game will be for a spot in the playoffs. I know it's a long shot, but how are you going to beat an undefeated Baylor team on the road and not get selected after running the table? :dunno:
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how do we not control our own destiny?
ill listen off the air
Technically speaking, the nobody except the selection committee controls anyone's destiny.
I think if Baylor and the qatz can run the table in the big 12, that final game will be for a spot in the playoffs. I know it's a long shot, but how are you going to beat an undefeated Baylor team on the road and not get selected after running the table? :dunno:
I agree with you, but that's not my point. The only thing that matters in the grand scheme of things is what the selection committee decides to do. If they really wanted to, they could put a 10-3 team in the playoffs arguing that their 3 losses were partly due to an injury/injuries. I don't think they would but anything can happen.
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have you guys discussed on this board yet about tossing the committee and just going back to the BCS and taking the top 4?
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have you guys discussed on this board yet about tossing the committee and just going back to the BCS and taking the top 4?
I would be ok with that.
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Ignore him wacky, he's got the down's something fierce.
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It's gonna be hard for OU and Baylor (either) to go undefeated through their schedules, so, if Kstate goes undefeated in conference play we're league champion anyway...or am I missing something?
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Losing to Auburn close is better than beating ding done tech by 45.
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Well, if KSU goes undefeated of course we win the conference. That condition kind of eliminates OU or Baylor going undefeated.
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You really Cantele'd this thread.
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Every year we control our own destiny. Might as well play someone I've heard of on this destiny ride.
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I'm ready.
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This thing is depressing to watch.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/notebook/_/page/EliminatorWeek4/eliminator-college-football-week-4-victims-survivors
THE ELIMINATOR!
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we will have faced a team that is on par with the best two teams in our league while they havent been tested yet.
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Does it matter if you lose all three?
of course not but at least we can't use the "haven't been tested" excuse like Baylor will. Plus it's good for the program and fun to play games like aub USC ucla ect ect
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This thread doesn't make any god damn sense
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Could have been a good thread.
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It's gonna be hard for OU and Baylor (either) to go undefeated through their schedules, so, if Kstate goes undefeated in conference play we're league champion anyway...or am I missing something?
Good stuff as always
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It's gonna be hard for OU and Baylor (either) to go undefeated through their schedules, so, if Kstate goes undefeated in conference play we're league champion anyway...or am I missing something?
Good stuff as always
:ROFL:
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how do we not control our own destiny?
ill listen off the air
Technically speaking, the nobody except the selection committee controls anyone's destiny.
I think if Baylor and the qatz can run the table in the big 12, that final game will be for a spot in the playoffs. I know it's a long shot, but how are you going to beat an undefeated Baylor team on the road and not get selected after running the table? :dunno:
Here is one way: Undefeated or one-loss Notre Dame/FSU/Oregon/Michigan State/SEC team.
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Here is one way: Undefeated or one-loss Notre Dame/FSU/Oregon/Michigan State/SEC team.
Irish fan outed. :dubious:
Considering their awful noncon resume, a 1 loss B12 team will get in over a 1 loss big 10 team.
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Here is one way: Undefeated or one-loss Notre Dame/FSU/Oregon/Michigan State/SEC team.
Irish fan outed. :dubious:
Considering their awful noncon resume, a 1 loss B12 team will get in over a 1 loss big 10 team.
Yes, the big 10 is already done.
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There's a good chance MSU is in if they run the table.
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Could have been a good thread.
almost should have
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There's a good chance MSU is in if they run the table.
I don't think MSU is as good as they were last season, however the big 10 is also worse than it was last season and likely to a greater degree comparatively. Oregon also looked suspect in that WSU game. So the blowout loss looks even worse and their wins are going to be very looked down upon and rightfully so. The big 10 is really, really shitty this year. Best win against a neutered OSU or mediocre PSU/Nubb? Blowout loss against the only elite team they played. Blech.
If there are four other undefeated/one-lossers then no way. Also I could see any other two-loss (possibly three) conference champions beating them out (meaning Big 12, SEC, ACC and Pac 12). I just don't see less than four teams amongst those two groups.
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have you guys discussed on this board yet about tossing the committee and just going back to the BCS and taking the top 4?
It would be a whole lot better to just use a computer model. Everyone knows the rules up front. They can set their schedule accordingly and just let the chips fall where they may.
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A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.
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have you guys discussed on this board yet about tossing the committee and just going back to the BCS and taking the top 4?
It would be a whole lot better to just use a computer model. Everyone knows the rules up front. They can set their schedule accordingly and just let the chips fall where they may.
Yep, I'm a big proponent of this. It would eliminate human bias created by preseason polls.
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A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.
byu is going to be pissed.
but i agree with you, maybe more than 1 to be honest
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have you guys discussed on this board yet about tossing the committee and just going back to the BCS and taking the top 4?
It would be a whole lot better to just use a computer model. Everyone knows the rules up front. They can set their schedule accordingly and just let the chips fall where they may.
Yep, I'm a big proponent of this. It would eliminate human bias created by preseason polls.
dont forget though that human polls are a component of the BCS formula. But the only reason I can think human bias would be necessary would be to consider teams that dramatically improved during the season after an early loss, or perhaps a team who lost a critical player at the end of the season. anything else?
though I suppose all that could be modeled as well.
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When you enter in the human into the equation, there's a greater chance of the committee choosing teams based off $ signs and it makes me sad. :frown:
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A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.
byu is going to be pissed.
but i agree with you, maybe more than 1 to be honest
This was the risk that BYU took when they opted to go independent. Eff them.
And a 2 loss team only gets in if there are only 3 or less P5 teams with 1 or fewer losses.
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A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.
byu is going to be pissed.
but i agree with you, maybe more than 1 to be honest
This was the risk that BYU took when they opted to go independent. Eff them.
And a 2 loss team only gets in if there are only 3 or less P5 teams with 1 or fewer losses.
Not necessarily. In 2007 2 loss LSU played for the national championship while 1 loss KU was left out.
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have you guys discussed on this board yet about tossing the committee and just going back to the BCS and taking the top 4?
It would be a whole lot better to just use a computer model. Everyone knows the rules up front. They can set their schedule accordingly and just let the chips fall where they may.
Yep, I'm a big proponent of this. It would eliminate human bias created by preseason polls.
dont forget though that human polls are a component of the BCS formula. But the only reason I can think human bias would be necessary would be to consider teams that dramatically improved during the season after an early loss, or perhaps a team who lost a critical player at the end of the season. anything else?
though I suppose all that could be modeled as well.
Who cares how much a team improved? But yeah, you could easily place more emphasis on later wins/losses. Humans definitely do.
And if a team wins games without a critical player, they get in. No one has ever been punished for an injury in the BCS era.
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A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.
byu is going to be pissed.
but i agree with you, maybe more than 1 to be honest
This was the risk that BYU took when they opted to go independent. Eff them.
And a 2 loss team only gets in if there are only 3 or less P5 teams with 1 or fewer losses.
Not necessarily. In 2007 2 loss LSU played for the national championship while 1 loss KU was left out.
:frown:
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A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.
byu is going to be pissed.
but i agree with you, maybe more than 1 to be honest
This was the risk that BYU took when they opted to go independent. Eff them.
And a 2 loss team only gets in if there are only 3 or less P5 teams with 1 or fewer losses.
Not necessarily. In 2007 2 loss LSU played for the national championship while 1 loss KU was left out.
okay say fsu and Oregon run the table, locks. Then 1 loss Baylor/KSU/ou get a spot right? Okay now the fourth team will almost assuredly have two losses and be from the sec west. Unless bama can run through their schedule with only one loss. those teams are going to destroy each other
A dream scenario is an sec team not making it, not likely because the big 10 is crap but there isn't a team outside of bama that's all that great in my eyes. Atm maybe.
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We're going to finish 7-5 so all this "going undefeated in B12" talk can just stop right now.
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I think 8-4 is most likely.
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Could have been a good thread.
almost should have
:thumbsup:
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okay say fsu and Oregon run the table, locks. Then 1 loss Baylor/KSU/ou get a spot right? Okay now the fourth team will almost assuredly have two losses and be from the sec west. Unless bama can run through their schedule with only one loss. those teams are going to destroy each other
A dream scenario is an sec team not making it, not likely because the big 10 is crap but there isn't a team outside of bama that's all that great in my eyes. Atm maybe.
If they really do beat up on each other then that's possible. IMO the pecking order is 1 loss B12 champ > 1 loss big 10 champ > 2 loss sec team
The big 10 schedule is very favorable to set up two 1 loss teams in their champ game...Wiscy doesn't play MSU or tOSU.
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okay say fsu and Oregon run the table, locks. Then 1 loss Baylor/KSU/ou get a spot right? Okay now the fourth team will almost assuredly have two losses and be from the sec west. Unless bama can run through their schedule with only one loss. those teams are going to destroy each other
A dream scenario is an sec team not making it, not likely because the big 10 is crap but there isn't a team outside of bama that's all that great in my eyes. Atm maybe.
If they really do beat up on each other then that's possible. IMO the pecking order is 1 loss B12 champ > 1 loss big 10 champ > 2 loss sec team
The big 10 schedule is very favorable to set up two 1 loss teams in their champ game...Wiscy doesn't play MSU or tOSU.
there is absolutely no way a big 10 team makes the playoff this year, sorry but its not happening. that conference barely stacks up against the mountain west.
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okay say fsu and Oregon run the table, locks. Then 1 loss Baylor/KSU/ou get a spot right? Okay now the fourth team will almost assuredly have two losses and be from the sec west. Unless bama can run through their schedule with only one loss. those teams are going to destroy each other
A dream scenario is an sec team not making it, not likely because the big 10 is crap but there isn't a team outside of bama that's all that great in my eyes. Atm maybe.
If they really do beat up on each other then that's possible. IMO the pecking order is 1 loss B12 champ > 1 loss big 10 champ > 2 loss sec team
The big 10 schedule is very favorable to set up two 1 loss teams in their champ game...Wiscy doesn't play MSU or tOSU.
The SEC champion is in, no matter how many losses. If this is not the "highest" ranked team in ESPN's FPI already then the highest ranked SEC team will also get in.
Locks:
SEC champ
FSU (if undefeated)
Oregon (or other Pac 12 champ if it has 1 or fewer losses)
Oklahoma (if undefeated)
Next in line:
ND (if undefeated)
Big 12 Champ (if undefeated or 1-loss OU)
Big 10 Champ (if undefeated)
ACC Champ (if undefeated or 1-loss FSU)
SEC (highest ranked FPI outside of SEC champ no matter how many losses)
ND (1-loss)
Big 12 Champ (1-loss other than OU)
Big 10 Champ (1-loss)
ACC Champ (1-loss other than FSU)
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okay say fsu and Oregon run the table, locks. Then 1 loss Baylor/KSU/ou get a spot right? Okay now the fourth team will almost assuredly have two losses and be from the sec west. Unless bama can run through their schedule with only one loss. those teams are going to destroy each other
A dream scenario is an sec team not making it, not likely because the big 10 is crap but there isn't a team outside of bama that's all that great in my eyes. Atm maybe.
If they really do beat up on each other then that's possible. IMO the pecking order is 1 loss B12 champ > 1 loss big 10 champ > 2 loss sec team
The big 10 schedule is very favorable to set up two 1 loss teams in their champ game...Wiscy doesn't play MSU or tOSU.
The SEC champion is in, no matter how many losses. If this is not the "highest" ranked team in ESPN's FPI already then the highest ranked SEC team will also get in.
Locks:
SEC champ
FSU (if undefeated)
Oregon (or other Pac 12 champ if it has 1 or fewer losses)
Oklahoma (if undefeated)
Next in line:
ND (if undefeated)
Big 12 Champ (if undefeated or 1-loss OU)
Big 10 Champ (if undefeated)
ACC Champ (if undefeated or 1-loss FSU)
SEC (highest ranked FPI outside of SEC champ no matter how many losses)
ND (1-loss)
Big 12 Champ (1-loss other than OU)
Big 10 Champ (1-loss)
ACC Champ (1-loss other than FSU)
How would you handle a one loss K-State or OSU that beat a one loss OU. Same could be said for Baylor in OU's place.
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This is a stupid rough ridin' conversation to be having right now. We're in week 4 of the season for crying out loud.
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This is a stupid rough ridin' conversation to be having right now. We're in week 4 of the season for crying out loud.
We were meant to be good friends.
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Everything will work it's way out. It always does.
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okay say fsu and Oregon run the table, locks. Then 1 loss Baylor/KSU/ou get a spot right? Okay now the fourth team will almost assuredly have two losses and be from the sec west. Unless bama can run through their schedule with only one loss. those teams are going to destroy each other
A dream scenario is an sec team not making it, not likely because the big 10 is crap but there isn't a team outside of bama that's all that great in my eyes. Atm maybe.
If they really do beat up on each other then that's possible. IMO the pecking order is 1 loss B12 champ > 1 loss big 10 champ > 2 loss sec team
The big 10 schedule is very favorable to set up two 1 loss teams in their champ game...Wiscy doesn't play MSU or tOSU.
The SEC champion is in, no matter how many losses. If this is not the "highest" ranked team in ESPN's FPI already then the highest ranked SEC team will also get in.
Locks:
SEC champ
FSU (if undefeated)
Oregon (or other Pac 12 champ if it has 1 or fewer losses)
Oklahoma (if undefeated)
Next in line:
ND (if undefeated)
Big 12 Champ (if undefeated or 1-loss OU)
Big 10 Champ (if undefeated)
ACC Champ (if undefeated or 1-loss FSU)
SEC (highest ranked FPI outside of SEC champ no matter how many losses)
ND (1-loss)
Big 12 Champ (1-loss other than OU)
Big 10 Champ (1-loss)
ACC Champ (1-loss other than FSU)
How would you handle a one loss K-State or OSU that beat a one loss OU. Same could be said for Baylor in OU's place.
OU will be in front. I think people are underestimating how much of a factor the FPI ratings are going to be.
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okay say fsu and Oregon run the table, locks. Then 1 loss Baylor/KSU/ou get a spot right? Okay now the fourth team will almost assuredly have two losses and be from the sec west. Unless bama can run through their schedule with only one loss. those teams are going to destroy each other
A dream scenario is an sec team not making it, not likely because the big 10 is crap but there isn't a team outside of bama that's all that great in my eyes. Atm maybe.
If they really do beat up on each other then that's possible. IMO the pecking order is 1 loss B12 champ > 1 loss big 10 champ > 2 loss sec team
The big 10 schedule is very favorable to set up two 1 loss teams in their champ game...Wiscy doesn't play MSU or tOSU.
The SEC champion is in, no matter how many losses. If this is not the "highest" ranked team in ESPN's FPI already then the highest ranked SEC team will also get in.
Locks:
SEC champ
FSU (if undefeated)
Oregon (or other Pac 12 champ if it has 1 or fewer losses)
Oklahoma (if undefeated)
Next in line:
ND (if undefeated)
Big 12 Champ (if undefeated or 1-loss OU)
Big 10 Champ (if undefeated)
ACC Champ (if undefeated or 1-loss FSU)
SEC (highest ranked FPI outside of SEC champ no matter how many losses)
ND (1-loss)
Big 12 Champ (1-loss other than OU)
Big 10 Champ (1-loss)
ACC Champ (1-loss other than FSU)
What!!! NO PAC 12? :surprised:
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Everything will work it's way out. It always does.
LOL