scheduling philosophy

[chum1]

I'm ready.

[420seriouscat69]

This thing is depressing to watch.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/notebook/_/page/EliminatorWeek4/eliminator-college-football-week-4-victims-survivors

THE ELIMINATOR!

[kslim]

we will have faced a team that is on par with the best two teams in our league while they havent been tested yet.

positive

Does it matter if you lose all three?

of course not but at least we can't use the "haven't been tested" excuse like Baylor will. Plus it's good for the program and fun to play games like aub USC ucla ect ect

[Pett]

This thread doesn't make any god damn sense

[scottwildcat]

Could have been a good thread.

[meow meow]

It's gonna be hard for OU and Baylor (either) to go undefeated through their schedules, so, if Kstate goes undefeated in conference play we're league champion anyway...or am I missing something?

Good stuff as always

[kslim]

It's gonna be hard for OU and Baylor (either) to go undefeated through their schedules, so, if Kstate goes undefeated in conference play we're league champion anyway...or am I missing something?

Good stuff as always

[massofcatfan]

how do we not control our own destiny?

ill listen off the air

Technically speaking, the nobody except the selection committee controls anyone's destiny.

I think if Baylor and the qatz can run the table in the big 12, that final game will be for a spot in the playoffs. I know it's a long shot, but how are you going to beat an undefeated Baylor team on the road and not get selected after running the table?

Here is one way: Undefeated or one-loss Notre Dame/FSU/Oregon/Michigan State/SEC team.

[TownieCat]

Here is one way: Undefeated or one-loss Notre Dame/FSU/Oregon/Michigan State/SEC team.

Irish fan outed. 

Considering their awful noncon resume, a 1 loss B12 team will get in over a 1 loss big 10 team.

[Mr Bread]

Here is one way: Undefeated or one-loss Notre Dame/FSU/Oregon/Michigan State/SEC team.

Irish fan outed. 

Considering their awful noncon resume, a 1 loss B12 team will get in over a 1 loss big 10 team.

Yes, the big 10 is already done. 

[michigancat]

There's a good chance MSU is in if they run the table.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Could have been a good thread.

almost should have

[Mr Bread]

There's a good chance MSU is in if they run the table.

I don't think MSU is as good as they were last season, however the big 10 is also worse than it was last season and likely to a greater degree comparatively.  Oregon also looked suspect in that WSU game.  So the blowout loss looks even worse and their wins are going to be very looked down upon and rightfully so.  The big 10 is really, really shitty this year.  Best win against a neutered OSU or mediocre PSU/Nubb?  Blowout loss against the only elite team they played.  Blech.

If there are four other undefeated/one-lossers then no way.  Also I could see any other two-loss (possibly three) conference champions beating them out (meaning Big 12, SEC, ACC and Pac 12).  I just don't see less than four teams amongst those two groups. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

have you guys discussed on this board yet about tossing the committee and just going back to the BCS and taking the top 4?

It would be a whole lot better to just use a computer model. Everyone knows the rules up front. They can set their schedule accordingly and just let the chips fall where they may.

[SdK]

A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.

[michigancat]

have you guys discussed on this board yet about tossing the committee and just going back to the BCS and taking the top 4?

It would be a whole lot better to just use a computer model. Everyone knows the rules up front. They can set their schedule accordingly and just let the chips fall where they may.

Yep, I'm a big proponent of this. It would eliminate human bias created by preseason polls.

[kslim]

A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.

byu is going to be pissed.

but i agree with you, maybe more than 1 to be honest

[opticalcarrier]

have you guys discussed on this board yet about tossing the committee and just going back to the BCS and taking the top 4?

It would be a whole lot better to just use a computer model. Everyone knows the rules up front. They can set their schedule accordingly and just let the chips fall where they may.

Yep, I'm a big proponent of this. It would eliminate human bias created by preseason polls.

dont forget though that human polls are a component of the BCS formula.  But the only reason I can think human bias would be necessary would be to consider teams that dramatically improved during the season after an early loss, or perhaps a team who lost a critical player at the end of the season.  anything else?

though I suppose all that could be modeled as well.

[420seriouscat69]

When you enter in the human into the equation, there's a greater chance of the committee choosing teams based off $ signs and it makes me sad. 

[TownieCat]

A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.

byu is going to be pissed.

but i agree with you, maybe more than 1 to be honest

This was the risk that BYU took when they opted to go independent. Eff them.

And a 2 loss team only gets in if there are only 3 or less P5 teams with 1 or fewer losses.

[Rage Against the McKee]

A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.

byu is going to be pissed.

but i agree with you, maybe more than 1 to be honest

This was the risk that BYU took when they opted to go independent. Eff them.

And a 2 loss team only gets in if there are only 3 or less P5 teams with 1 or fewer losses.

Not necessarily. In 2007 2 loss LSU played for the national championship while 1 loss KU was left out.

[michigancat]

have you guys discussed on this board yet about tossing the committee and just going back to the BCS and taking the top 4?

It would be a whole lot better to just use a computer model. Everyone knows the rules up front. They can set their schedule accordingly and just let the chips fall where they may.

Yep, I'm a big proponent of this. It would eliminate human bias created by preseason polls.

dont forget though that human polls are a component of the BCS formula.  But the only reason I can think human bias would be necessary would be to consider teams that dramatically improved during the season after an early loss, or perhaps a team who lost a critical player at the end of the season.  anything else?

though I suppose all that could be modeled as well.

Who cares how much a team improved? But yeah, you could easily place more emphasis on later wins/losses. Humans definitely do.

And if a team wins games without a critical player, they get in. No one has ever been punished for an injury in the BCS era.

[TownieCat]

A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.

byu is going to be pissed.

but i agree with you, maybe more than 1 to be honest

This was the risk that BYU took when they opted to go independent. Eff them.

And a 2 loss team only gets in if there are only 3 or less P5 teams with 1 or fewer losses.

Not necessarily. In 2007 2 loss LSU played for the national championship while 1 loss KU was left out.

 

[kslim]

A 2 loss team makes the playoffs this year.

byu is going to be pissed.

but i agree with you, maybe more than 1 to be honest

This was the risk that BYU took when they opted to go independent. Eff them.

And a 2 loss team only gets in if there are only 3 or less P5 teams with 1 or fewer losses.

Not necessarily. In 2007 2 loss LSU played for the national championship while 1 loss KU was left out.

okay say fsu and Oregon run the table, locks. Then 1 loss Baylor/KSU/ou get a spot right? Okay now the fourth team will almost assuredly have two losses and be from the sec west. Unless bama can run through their schedule with only one loss. those teams are going to destroy each other

A dream scenario is an sec team not making it, not likely because the big 10 is crap but there isn't a team outside of bama that's all that great in my eyes. Atm maybe.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

We're going to finish 7-5 so all this "going undefeated in B12" talk can just stop right now.