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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kim carnes on February 15, 2014, 08:39:20 PM
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HE SUCKS
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How the eff do you not foul up 3? rough ridin' idiotic.
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Fouling up 3 doesn't help you
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How the eff do you not foul up 3? rough ridin' idiotic.
This. Are we the worst/stupidest team in the country in the last minute of regulation?
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Eff free throws you guys are so stupid blaming it on other things. FREEFUCKINGTHROWS. This game wouldnt have gone into OT if Marcus would have just made 1 and KU would not have been if Westicles made his. rough ridin' disgusting
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Eff free throws you guys are so stupid blaming it on other things. FREEFUCKINGTHROWS. This game wouldnt have gone into OT if Marcus would have just made 1 and KU would not have been if Westicles made his. rough ridin' disgusting
so oscar doesn't bear any responsibility for missed FTs? who does? the players? what the hell are we paying oscar for?
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Of course part of the blame goes on free throws, but you also need to grab a damned board for once or foul for god's sake. Also, way to adjust the defense when they are scoring on every possession in the 2nd half.
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How the eff do you not foul up 3? rough ridin' idiotic.
It was a weird sequence. It wasn't like they ran down and took a 3. We forced a 2 and they got a weird o board, Will got lost between 2 guys, and he hit the shot. It happens.
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10 point 2nd half lead.
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You've had a big night Kim. Enjoy it responsibly, don't drink and drive.
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Meh
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How the eff do you not foul up 3? rough ridin' idiotic.
It was a weird sequence. It wasn't like they ran down and took a 3. We forced a 2 and they got a weird o board, Will got lost between 2 guys, and he hit the shot. It happens.
Option 1. Grab a rebound. 2. If you don't, foul the guy who did.
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Eff free throws you guys are so stupid blaming it on other things. FREEFUCKINGTHROWS. This game wouldnt have gone into OT if Marcus would have just made 1 and KU would not have been if Westicles made his. rough ridin' disgusting
Yeah, but in both cases it wouldn't have mattered if in-game, controllable decisions by players/coaches are made correctly. I can't with 100% surety make a FT by telling myself I will, but I can hack the crap out of Austin when he grabs a board down by 3 with 4 sec. left or call a TO when trapped under my own goal, like Shane.
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This is squarely on bruces shoulders
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My only complaint is benching Westicles for so long. Not a huge deal, though.
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My only complaint is benching Westicles for so long. Not a huge deal, though.
I was wondering about this as well
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I'm just irrationally pissed, don't know where to direct it
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Congrats on the meltdown, you guys. Enjoy.
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My only complaint is benching Westicles for so long. Not a huge deal, though.
He was playing very bad. Omari looked much better.
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Congrats on the meltdown, you guys. Enjoy.
This loss is as bad as the KU game was good.
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I'm just irrationally pissed, don't know where to direct it
oscar
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My only complaint is benching Westicles for so long. Not a huge deal, though.
I was wondering about this as well
I can't remember Wes doing anything good tonight. Only bad things (those are fuzzy).
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My only complaint is benching Westicles for so long. Not a huge deal, though.
He was playing very bad. Omari looked much better.
Yeah, Omari still could have used a break. How many consecutive minutes did he play? Nino could have used some rest, too.
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Congrats on the meltdown, you guys. Enjoy.
This loss is as bad as the KU game was good.
crap. Guess we suck then, huh?
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My only complaint is benching Westicles for so long. Not a huge deal, though.
He was playing very bad. Omari looked much better.
You mean he was playing better? Cuz Omari is hard to look at...
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This is quickly becoming one of the best dumbass identification threads in history :excited:
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Congrats on the meltdown, you guys. Enjoy.
This loss is as bad as the KU game was good.
crap. Guess we suck then, huh?
On the road? Yep. Maybe oscar will improve to coaching 2 halves at an average level on the road next year.
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
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Congrats on the meltdown, you guys. Enjoy.
This loss is as bad as the KU game was good.
I prefer beating KU and losing this one , than the other way around. We are Marty Schottenheimer- snake bit on the road tho. :curse:
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I love this place. :love:
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
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Kim Carnes, once again showing why he is a top 10 poster on this blog.
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
Yep. Another first round NCAA exit on the horizon
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I'm not BID, but I'd really like for oscar to just have a tiny bit of ability to coach road games.
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
They are the second worst team in the league. Maybe you don't know that? :dunno:
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1st; fouling occurs when a team has to go the length of the floor with less than 5-8 seconds left. Not when the have 20 seconds or a team calls a time out in the half court. There is just too much risk that the guy you foul will just put up the shot and get 3 FTs.
2nd, there is NO benefit in fouling. Teams that foul with less than 5 second left up 3 win 94% of the time. Teams that defend win 94% of the time. Point is, its not "good coaching" either way.
3rd, my biggest concern was oboarding, and Baylor got 45.5% of their misses (compared to 32% for the Cats). It makes me sick to watch the last possession and Nino Williams step underneath the rim instead of stepping back to block out which he could've easily done. Go back and watch.
This was a very disappointing loss.
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
Yep. Another first round NCAA exit on the horizon
I'm almost sure that this is a young talent problem more than it's a coaching problem.
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
That OOD record tho
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1st; fouling occurs when a team has to go the length of the floor with less than 5-8 seconds left. Not when the have 20 seconds or a team calls a time out in the half court. There is just too much risk that the guy you foul will just put up the shot and get 3 FTs.
2nd, there is NO benefit in fouling. Teams that foul with less than 5 second left up 3 win 94% of the time. Teams that defend win 94% of the time. Point is, its not "good coaching" either way.
3rd, my biggest concern was oboarding, and Baylor got 45.5% of their misses (compared to 32% for the Cats). It makes me sick to watch the last possession and Nino Williams step underneath the rim instead of stepping back to block out which he could've easily done. Go back and watch.
This was a very disappointing loss.
I think everyone was saying that we should've fouled after Baylor missed 2 or 3 times and there was under 10 seconds left in the game.
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
That OOD record tho
this is why it's a youth problem. Not a coaching problem
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HE SUCKS
NEVER, is a long time.
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
Yep. Another first round NCAA exit on the horizon
I'm almost sure that this is a young talent problem more than it's a coaching problem.
So many excuses flying in tonight from the cus-tards
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
That OOD record tho
this is why it's a youth problem. Not a coaching problem
It's both.
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Jim webridge can't win a road game
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1st; fouling occurs when a team has to go the length of the floor with less than 5-8 seconds left. Not when the have 20 seconds or a team calls a time out in the half court. There is just too much risk that the guy you foul will just put up the shot and get 3 FTs.
2nd, there is NO benefit in fouling. Teams that foul with less than 5 second left up 3 win 94% of the time. Teams that defend win 94% of the time. Point is, its not "good coaching" either way.
3rd, my biggest concern was oboarding, and Baylor got 45.5% of their misses (compared to 32% for the Cats). It makes me sick to watch the last possession and Nino Williams step underneath the rim instead of stepping back to block out which he could've easily done. Go back and watch.
This was a very disappointing loss.
I think everyone was saying that we should've fouled after Baylor missed 2 or 3 times and there was under 10 seconds left in the game.
I think that's a really odd thing to ask a team to do. "Ok guys, defend them, but if they miss and then get the Oreb then foul them because they're behind by 3! Ready, break!."
nah
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1st; fouling occurs when a team has to go the length of the floor with less than 5-8 seconds left. Not when the have 20 seconds or a team calls a time out in the half court. There is just too much risk that the guy you foul will just put up the shot and get 3 FTs.
2nd, there is NO benefit in fouling. Teams that foul with less than 5 second left up 3 win 94% of the time. Teams that defend win 94% of the time. Point is, its not "good coaching" either way.
3rd, my biggest concern was oboarding, and Baylor got 45.5% of their misses (compared to 32% for the Cats). It makes me sick to watch the last possession and Nino Williams step underneath the rim instead of stepping back to block out which he could've easily done. Go back and watch.
This was a very disappointing loss.
I think everyone was saying that we should've fouled after Baylor missed 2 or 3 times and there was under 10 seconds left in the game.
I think people who are saying that are expecting a lot from the players on the floor. It was a fluid play and its unreasonable to expect a strategy change halfway through the sequence. Be more upset with the lack of a rebound there.
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1st; fouling occurs when a team has to go the length of the floor with less than 5-8 seconds left. Not when the have 20 seconds or a team calls a time out in the half court. There is just too much risk that the guy you foul will just put up the shot and get 3 FTs.
2nd, there is NO benefit in fouling. Teams that foul with less than 5 second left up 3 win 94% of the time. Teams that defend win 94% of the time. Point is, its not "good coaching" either way.
3rd, my biggest concern was oboarding, and Baylor got 45.5% of their misses (compared to 32% for the Cats). It makes me sick to watch the last possession and Nino Williams step underneath the rim instead of stepping back to block out which he could've easily done. Go back and watch.
This was a very disappointing loss.
I think everyone was saying that we should've fouled after Baylor missed 2 or 3 times and there was under 10 seconds left in the game.
I think that's a really odd thing to ask a team to do. "Ok guys, defend them, but if they miss and then get the Oreb then foul them because they're behind by 3! Ready, break!."
nah
It would be more logical than letting the best 3 point shooter in the country get a shot off.
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1st; fouling occurs when a team has to go the length of the floor with less than 5-8 seconds left. Not when the have 20 seconds or a team calls a time out in the half court. There is just too much risk that the guy you foul will just put up the shot and get 3 FTs.
2nd, there is NO benefit in fouling. Teams that foul with less than 5 second left up 3 win 94% of the time. Teams that defend win 94% of the time. Point is, its not "good coaching" either way.
3rd, my biggest concern was oboarding, and Baylor got 45.5% of their misses (compared to 32% for the Cats). It makes me sick to watch the last possession and Nino Williams step underneath the rim instead of stepping back to block out which he could've easily done. Go back and watch.
This was a very disappointing loss.
I think everyone was saying that we should've fouled after Baylor missed 2 or 3 times and there was under 10 seconds left in the game.
I think that's a really odd thing to ask a team to do. "Ok guys, defend them, but if they miss and then get the Oreb then foul them because they're behind by 3! Ready, break!."
nah
It's not odd, it's stupid. What you do is tell your team to go get a freaking rebound and not stand under the basket.
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The defensive rebounding tonight was just pathetic :curse:
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
That OOD record tho
this is why it's a youth problem. Not a coaching problem
It's both.
We were 7-3 last year on the road. Same coach, but more experience equals more wins on the road. I don't know how you guys can validate this can't win on the road crap.
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
That OOD record tho
this is why it's a youth problem. Not a coaching problem
It's both.
We were 7-3 last year on the road. Same coach, but more experience equals more wins on the road. I don't know how you guys can validate this can't win on the road crap.
Just let them have this, Luke.
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The defensive rebounding tonight was just pathetic :curse:
Are you surprised? They were so much bigger than us. We had 6'5" Nino on 7'1" Austin most of the night.
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I All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
That OOD record tho
this is why it's a youth problem. Not a coaching problem
It's both.
We were 7-3 last year on the road. Same coach, but more experience equals more wins on the road. I don't know how you guys can validate this can't win on the road crap.
Lol, choking the game with a 10 pt lead and decent leads in 2 or 3 other road games down the stretch DEFINITELY isnt on the coach at all, come on , Luke.
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The defensive rebounding tonight was just pathetic :curse:
Are you surprised? They were so much bigger than us. We had 6'5" Nino on 7'1" Austin most of the night.
It hurt not having Shane. A lot.
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
That OOD record tho
this is why it's a youth problem. Not a coaching problem
It's both.
We were 7-3 last year on the road. Same coach, but more experience equals more wins on the road. I don't know how you guys can validate this can't win on the road crap.
Lol, choking the game with a 10 pt lead and decent leads in 2 or 3 other road games down the stretch DEFINITELY isnt on the coach at all, come on , Luke.
Anyone that blames this all on the coach is a complete dumbass and I'm writing them off as a dumbass.
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All you team BID fucks can suck crap. This loss is not meltdown worthy and does not define oscar as a coach
it actually does define him b/c he can't win away from home
That OOD record tho
this is why it's a youth problem. Not a coaching problem
It's both.
We were 7-3 last year on the road. Same coach, but more experience equals more wins on the road. I don't know how you guys can validate this can't win on the road crap.
Lol, choking the game with a 10 pt lead and decent leads in 2 or 3 other road games down the stretch DEFINITELY isnt on the coach at all, come on , Luke.
Anyone that blames this all on the coach is a complete dumbass and I'm writing them off as a dumbass.
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I'm disappointed but sheesh, were you guys really expecting us to win out? Its not like we suddenly got height or something. The Home/Road talking point is some what valid, but like Rusty is saying in the other thread, we've played close enough on these roadies that we'll get one or two down the stretch.
Take a chill pill. Especially you Jackstack
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Consistently giving games away in the last two minutes the last two years is def not on the coach guys.
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We played like pussies in crunch time because our coach is a giant heap of pussy
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I'm disappointed but sheesh, were you guys really expecting us to win out? Its not like we suddenly got height or something. The Home/Road talking point is some what valid, but like Rusty is saying in the other thread, we've played close enough on these roadies that we'll get one or two down the stretch.
Take a chill pill. Especially you Jackstack
It's also nice that the Cats have been so lights out in the home games that most have been a breeze lately.
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I'm disappointed but sheesh, were you guys really expecting us to win out? Its not like we suddenly got height or something. The Home/Road talking point is some what valid, but like Rusty is saying in the other thread, we've played close enough on these roadies that we'll get one or two down the stretch.
Take a chill pill. Especially you Jackstack
I didn't expect us to win out, but I did expect to beat the second worst team in the conference.
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Consistently giving games away in the last two minutes the last two years is def not on the coach guys.
I bet we've won as many close ones in the end of games as we've lost.
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I'm disappointed but sheesh, were you guys really expecting us to win out? Its not like we suddenly got height or something. The Home/Road talking point is some what valid, but like Rusty is saying in the other thread, we've played close enough on these roadies that we'll get one or two down the stretch.
Take a chill pill. Especially you Jackstack
Meh. It's a disappointing loss. People vent in lots of different ways which is fine. If your are predisposed to not like the coach that is going to show up.
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I'm disappointed but sheesh, were you guys really expecting us to win out? Its not like we suddenly got height or something. The Home/Road talking point is some what valid, but like Rusty is saying in the other thread, we've played close enough on these roadies that we'll get one or two down the stretch.
Take a chill pill. Especially you Jackstack
Nobody here was expecting to win. However, we were expecting to beat the second worst team in the conference.
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I'm disappointed but sheesh, were you guys really expecting us to win out? Its not like we suddenly got height or something. The Home/Road talking point is some what valid, but like Rusty is saying in the other thread, we've played close enough on these roadies that we'll get one or two down the stretch.
Take a chill pill. Especially you Jackstack
I didn't expect us to win out, but I did expect to beat the second worst team in the conference.
Baylor was a ticking time bomb, and though they did not play like allstars, they have a ton of talent and are not as bad as their record.
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Consistently giving games away in the last two minutes the last two years is def not on the coach guys.
I bet we've won as many close ones in the end of games as we've lost.
yes but only road games fit the desired narrative
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Are we allowed to talk about the Brucing of Westicles, or will that turn this thread into a giant Frank crap fest?
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I'm disappointed but sheesh, were you guys really expecting us to win out? Its not like we suddenly got height or something. The Home/Road talking point is some what valid, but like Rusty is saying in the other thread, we've played close enough on these roadies that we'll get one or two down the stretch.
Take a chill pill. Especially you Jackstack
Meh. It's a disappointing loss. People vent in lots of different ways which is fine. If your are predisposed to not like the coach that is going to show up.
I'm not against oscar, and he's exceeded expectations this year, but this is a really bad loss, and I overreact.
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Are we allowed to talk about the Brucing of Westicles, or will that turn this thread into a giant Frank crap fest?
Pfffft
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Are we allowed to talk about the Brucing of Westicles, or will that turn this thread into a giant Frank crap fest?
Westicles ignited Baylor's 8-0 run to start the 2nd half with his back to back turnovers. He wasn't playing well at all.
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I'm disappointed but sheesh, were you guys really expecting us to win out? Its not like we suddenly got height or something. The Home/Road talking point is some what valid, but like Rusty is saying in the other thread, we've played close enough on these roadies that we'll get one or two down the stretch.
Take a chill pill. Especially you Jackstack
I didn't expect us to win out, but I did expect to beat the second worst team in the conference.
Baylor was a ticking time bomb, and though they did not play like allstars, they have a ton of talent and are not as bad as their record.
I agree, but their coach is worse than their record indicates too.
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Consistently giving games away in the last two minutes the last two years is def not on the coach guys.
I bet we've won as many close ones in the end of games as we've lost.
yes but only road games fit the desired narrative
Two of the Cats' three B12 road losses last season also fit. Chances to win down the stretch at ISU and OSU. This team isn't quite as good as least year's so more of those close road games.
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Are we allowed to talk about the Brucing of Westicles, or will that turn this thread into a giant Frank crap fest?
Westicles ignited Baylor's 8-0 run to start the 2nd half with his back to back turnovers. He wasn't playing well at all.
Wes's game just doesn't fit attacking a zone. His strength is driving in the lane and getting to the line. With no outside shot, this matchup is not a good one for him. I have no problem him sitting for the stretch that he did.
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This is a well coached, undersized, young bunch of missfits, i'm impressed with the results.
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the eff?
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The only argument people should be making in this thread is that oscar should have done better recruiting a big for this class, and he should have been able to keep Angel. Our team as it is, should probably lose a lot of road games. No height and no veteran point guard. What the eff did you expect? oscar has done a much better job with this squad than most good coaches would've done. There are a bunch of dorks on this board.
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Frank's teams never had height and we were a beast of a team on the ORs
Nino is a better rebounder than Shane. Him in the game more should have helped our rebounding cause.
It wasn't all about Baylor's height. They wanted the ball more. They hustled more and got more 50/50 hustle rebounds.
Frank's teams use to live on Hustle boards..... and that is not a knock on Webber. We were a good OR team last year in the Big 12 under Webber playing 6'6 Shane and 6'5 Nino at the PF spot.
This team, tonight......they lacked hunger and desire to want those ORs (block out, hustle, get in right position, etc)
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Frank's teams never had height and we were a beast of a team on the ORs
Frank's teams actually always had a pretty high effective height on kenpom.
And Frank's teams didn't just out work people for boards - the offense was designed to attack the rim with bigs in position for rebounds. (Not saying they didn't outwork folks, but there was more to it than that.)
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Our coach is a wuss and it translates to the team
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Frank's teams never had height and we were a beast of a team on the ORs
Frank's teams actually always had a pretty high effective height on kenpom.
And Frank's teams didn't just out work people for boards - the offense was designed to attack the rim with bigs in position for rebounds. (Not saying they didn't outwork folks, but there was more to it than that.)
Maybe they did according to Kenpom, but 2 starting guards 6'1 or under, 6'7 Jamar and 6'8 Curt logging a lot of minutes at the 4/5. To me that is not tall. Fla's front line of 6'9 6'10 6'11 on their title teams, Memphis having 4 starters at 6'6/6'7 or taller on that team that choked to KU....... that is really good size on the entire starting 5
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Frank's teams never had height and we were a beast of a team on the ORs
Nino is a better rebounder than Shane. Him in the game more should have helped our rebounding cause.
It wasn't all about Baylor's height. They wanted the ball more. They hustled more and got more 50/50 hustle rebounds.
Frank's teams use to live on Hustle boards..... and that is not a knock on Webber. We were a good OR team last year in the Big 12 under Webber playing 6'6 Shane and 6'5 Nino at the PF spot.
This team, tonight......they lacked hunger and desire to want those ORs (block out, hustle, get in right position, etc)
Did you forget about Curtis Kelly, Michael Beasley, Lu Colon, and JO? You seem like a pretty smart guy Posse, and you're way too good for that bullshit argument you just made. Also, MC makes a good point about Frank's offense, it lends itself well to OR%. We're small, and we've boarded WAY better than we should have most of the year. Let's just be happy about that instead of complaining about the times when it actually bites us in the ass.
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Frank's teams never had height and we were a beast of a team on the ORs
Nino is a better rebounder than Shane. Him in the game more should have helped our rebounding cause.
It wasn't all about Baylor's height. They wanted the ball more. They hustled more and got more 50/50 hustle rebounds.
Frank's teams use to live on Hustle boards..... and that is not a knock on Webber. We were a good OR team last year in the Big 12 under Webber playing 6'6 Shane and 6'5 Nino at the PF spot.
This team, tonight......they lacked hunger and desire to want those ORs (block out, hustle, get in right position, etc)
Did you forget about Curtis Kelly, Michael Beasley, Lu Colon, and JO? You seem like a pretty smart guy Posse, and you're way too good for that bullshit argument you just made. Also, MC makes a good point about Frank's offense, it lends itself well to OR%. We're small, and we've boarded WAY better than we should have most of the year. Let's just be happy about that instead of complaining about the times when it actually bites us in the ass.
When Beasley was here, we played 6'6 Bill Walker at PF. I did not forget about JO. He played with 6'6 and 6'5 guys playing the 4 spot. And in the case of Lou Colon.... just because you are 6'10 doesn't meen you are a good rebounder... plus how many minutes did he really play anyway
I agree that our offense under Frank was set up to get more ORs than normal. The problem tonight wasn't OR....it was DR. My point is you don't have to start a 6'10 PF and 7'1 Center to be a good Reb team. Franks team did a decent job on DR, so I think our players were just good rebounders in general =
07-08 = 30.3 OR allowed
08-09 = 32.6 OR allowed
09-10 = 34.0 OR allowed
10-11 = 30.7 OR allowed
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Frank's teams never had height and we were a beast of a team on the ORs
Frank's teams actually always had a pretty high effective height on kenpom.
And Frank's teams didn't just out work people for boards - the offense was designed to attack the rim with bigs in position for rebounds. (Not saying they didn't outwork folks, but there was more to it than that.)
Maybe they did according to Kenpom, but 2 starting guards 6'1 or under, 6'7 Jamar and 6'8 Curt logging a lot of minutes at the 4/5. To me that is not tall. Fla's front line of 6'9 6'10 6'11 on their title teams, Memphis having 4 starters at 6'6/6'7 or taller on that team that choked to KU....... that is really good size on the entire starting 5
All road losses have been because of defense. We don't have a shot blocker to bail us out. Kelly measured at 6'6" at portsmith but he could defend the hell out of the rim and that matters. This is team is ahead of where it should be and close road losses aren't the worse thing in the world.
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Frank's teams never had height and we were a beast of a team on the ORs
Frank's teams actually always had a pretty high effective height on kenpom.
And Frank's teams didn't just out work people for boards - the offense was designed to attack the rim with bigs in position for rebounds. (Not saying they didn't outwork folks, but there was more to it than that.)
Maybe they did according to Kenpom, but 2 starting guards 6'1 or under, 6'7 Jamar and 6'8 Curt logging a lot of minutes at the 4/5. To me that is not tall. Fla's front line of 6'9 6'10 6'11 on their title teams, Memphis having 4 starters at 6'6/6'7 or taller on that team that choked to KU....... that is really good size on the entire starting 5
All road losses have been because of defense. We don't have a shot blocker to bail us out. Kelly measured at 6'6" at portsmith but he could defend the hell out of the rim and that matters. This is team is ahead of where it should be and close road losses aren't the worse thing in the world.
One part I have to disagree is that you said "All road losses have been because of defense". Prior to the Heslip last second 3, Baylor had 54 pts in 60 poss. I am mad as hell we let Baylor get 4 shots to send the game in OT...... but our 57 pts in 61 poss wasn't that great. Had we just been at 1.00 ppp, we are up 61-54 with 20 seconds left
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basketball is too complex a game with too many opportunities to point to one play or phase or player as a reason you won/lost. in any game.
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Was really upset with 2nd half defense, first half was off the charts. Westicles needed to play more we needed his rebounding. Also missed Shane, he is important for us specially against zones. Omari suck ass at getting boards. There were a lot of long rebounds up for grabs.
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hatter tried the "Frank was nails on the road card" tonight in the 'bash.
It wasn't pretty, sorry Hatter.
I guess 17-15 on the road in conference play over 4 season is pretty good considering, but hardly "nails". That record included 2 winning season on the road in conference. Sorry Frank fappers, the JYC went 2 games over .500 on the road and had their own 5 game road conference losing streak with Sr. Guard Jake Pullen starting at PG.
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For me it wasn't just about allowing ORs. It isn't good when u get allow 20 ORs and get 24 DRs for an entire game.
However, when teams make you pay for ORs, it hurts. Baylor got ORs on 7 poss in the 2nd half. Scored 14 pts. They took advantage of their ORs in the 2nd half
In the first half BU got 9 ORs and we got 14 DRs. That is still a good 39.1 OR% by Baylor. But we held them to 21 pts on 31 poss. That is incredible on the road.
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hatter tried the "Frank was nails on the road card" tonight in the 'bash.
It wasn't pretty, sorry Hatter.
I guess 17-15 on the road in conference play over 4 season is pretty good considering, but hardly "nails". That record included only 1 winning season on the road in conference. Sorry Frank fappers, the JYC went 2 games over .500 on the road and had their own 5 game road conference losing streak with Sr. Guard Jake Pullen starting at PG.
oscar is 14-1 in OOD in Big 12. I love that way more than a good road record.
Frank's 09-10 team was 6-2 on the road.... but only 5-3 at home. U realize if we were 7-1 at home, our record would have been 28-5 entering March Madness
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I don't give a crap who's fault it is. I'm rough ridin' pissed that we lost to these motherfuckers. Losing to Baylor makes me irrationally angry, and I cannot rough ridin' stand it.
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I don't give a crap who's fault it is. I'm rough ridin' pissed that we lost to these motherfuckers. Losing to Baylor makes me irrationally angry, and I cannot rough ridin' stand it.
I don't think I'm irrationally angry, although I may be. :dunno:
What I do know is that I'm very damned angry.
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hatter tried the "Frank was nails on the road card" tonight in the 'bash.
It wasn't pretty, sorry Hatter.
I guess 17-15 on the road in conference play over 4 season is pretty good considering, but hardly "nails". That record included only 1 winning season on the road in conference. Sorry Frank fappers, the JYC went 2 games over .500 on the road and had their own 5 game road conference losing streak with Sr. Guard Jake Pullen starting at PG.
oscar is 14-1 in OOD in Big 12. I love that way more than a good road record.
Frank's 09-10 team was 6-2 on the road.... but only 5-3 at home. U realize if we were 7-1 at home, our record would have been 28-5 entering March Madness
Yeah, I just got reminded how much Tad Boyle owned Frank in 10-11, wow. I mean Frank just blew ass against new coaches in the Big 12 over his last couple of years, going 0-7 vs Boyle, Kruger and Hoiberg . . . painful.
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I bet we win more games.
Sooner or later this laziness in the closing moments of games should wear off.
At least I hope anyway.
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Dax,
Metalhead's never turning in that top 10 list for the gE blog. You want to do one on your 10 worst K-State-affiliated people ever?
T-Y,
Trim
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"I don't include this like the other losses," Weber explained. "We were there. We did everything we needed to win. Those other three games, we didn't do what we needed to win. Sometimes it doesn't go your way."
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basketball is too complex a game with too many opportunities to point to one play or phase or player as a reason you won/lost. in any game.
This is true. I thought we ran some decent offense down the stretch, we just missed good shots. Foster missed a couple good looks. Will missed an open three. Williams missed an open jumper that he had made all night and we got 2 offensive boards and missed both. That was all in the last 4 and a half minutes.
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Dumb thread. :buh-bye:
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hatter tried the "Frank was nails on the road card" tonight in the 'bash.
You are supposed to put the end quotations after "road" instead of "card"
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Also, how can you expect oscar to have a .500 road record when there is an odd number of road games?
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There is no evidence to believe Weber is a poor road coach from his career in BCS conferences. He has won 48.5% of his road games overall and even if you remove his first 2 seasons at Illinois (when he went 15-3) he has still won 41.2% of his road games. Some seem to be making his ability to win on the road to Wooly and Asbury and that is simply not the case. If we don't win another road game this year it will be the only year he's won only 1 road game as a coach and only the 2nd season with less than 3 wins. 6 of 11 of his seasons he's been .500 or better on the road.
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Maybe it's not that we're extra bad on the road, but that we're just not that good in general and we're getting home wins off the emotion of heroes like winters and metalhead.
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maybe it's that every team in the big 12 except tcu is less than .1 from kstate's kenpom rating.
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Bad news, guys. We're a really good home team.
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Looking at these 4 road games where we had a chance to win. And I am gonna take out the 2 OTs in Baylor, so just talking 40 minutes of reg here in 4 games. Offensively one area that has really taking a dip is 3PTA and 3Pt %. We are only making 29.2% and only 26.7% of our shots are from 3pt. In contrast, our 6 home games we are shooting 40.4% and 33.5% of our shots are from 3pt
2pt is 49.4%. TO% was 17.5%. Our OR% was 32.0 ---- those are all pretty close to our average in all conf games.
However FT shooting has been poor. Only 56.7%. We only are ave 15 FTAs in those 4 games, so the FTR is low, but when you only make 57%, having a higher FTR isn't really an advantage
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There is no evidence to believe Weber is a poor road coach from his career in BCS conferences. He has won 48.5% of his road games overall and even if you remove his first 2 seasons at Illinois (when he went 15-3) he has still won 41.2% of his road games. Some seem to be making his ability to win on the road to Wooly and Asbury and that is simply not the case. If we don't win another road game this year it will be the only year he's won only 1 road game as a coach and only the 2nd season with less than 3 wins. 6 of 11 of his seasons he's been .500 or better on the road.
just do illinois and kstate. Siu is irrelevant
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There is no evidence to believe Weber is a poor road coach from his career in BCS conferences. He has won 48.5% of his road games overall and even if you remove his first 2 seasons at Illinois (when he went 15-3) he has still won 41.2% of his road games. Some seem to be making his ability to win on the road to Wooly and Asbury and that is simply not the case. If we don't win another road game this year it will be the only year he's won only 1 road game as a coach and only the 2nd season with less than 3 wins. 6 of 11 of his seasons he's been .500 or better on the road.
just do illinois and kstate. Siu is irrelevant
Read again.
I have no idea what his road record was at SIU.
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Just joking guys. oscar is a good coach and he's just having a tough time on the road this year. Get off his back already. Go cats.
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There is no evidence to believe Weber is a poor road coach from his career in BCS conferences. He has won 48.5% of his road games overall and even if you remove his first 2 seasons at Illinois (when he went 15-3) he has still won 41.2% of his road games. Some seem to be making his ability to win on the road to Wooly and Asbury and that is simply not the case. If we don't win another road game this year it will be the only year he's won only 1 road game as a coach and only the 2nd season with less than 3 wins. 6 of 11 of his seasons he's been .500 or better on the road.
just do illinois and kstate. Siu is irrelevant
Read again.
I have no idea what his road record was at SIU.
What's huggs? Eddie sutton?
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hey guys just catching up, is this the thread where we discuss our senior leader leaving the nations best point shooter when Baylor needed a 3?
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hey guys just catching up, is this the thread where we discuss our senior leader leaving the nations best point shooter when Baylor needed a 3?
You talking about that Senior holding nation's best shooter to 0 for 6 from 3pt and our entire team failing to get a defensive rebound on 3 different occasions in the final 20 seconds. Remember, 1 of the reasons we had a 3 pt lead was because Heslip was 0-6
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hey guys just catching up, is this the thread where we discuss our senior leader leaving the nations best point shooter when Baylor needed a 3?
You talking about that Senior holding nation's best shooter to 0 for 6 from 3pt and our entire team failing to get a defensive rebound on 3 different occasions in the final 20 seconds. Remember, 1 of the reasons we had a 3 pt lead was because Heslip was 0-6
so you're okay with Heslip being left there? I don't give a dame if he was "held" :ROFL: "held" to 0-10, he's a 50% 3 point shooter, I'm okay with thinking it is more than reasonable to not let him have a clean look at a buzzer-beating 3.
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hey guys just catching up, is this the thread where we discuss our senior leader leaving the nations best point shooter when Baylor needed a 3?
Nino and Will were both really bad on that last rebound. It looks like both thought there was no way Baylor world get another shot. They relaxed and didn't finish out the play. Will was in no position to rebound, it was completely dumb to leave Heslip.
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DNR most of this thread but a lot of herp derp going on here.
The team is lead by FR, FR don't win on the road much. Baylor was reeling, needing a win, got a last second 3 to tie, and then K-State is in foul trouble; boom, KSU loss. Can't believe they had a 2nd OT.
Keep in mind this was supposed to be the bad year...oh ps, most of you wanted to throw will under the bus (or significantly worse); now we're calling him a senior leader, pssh...
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DNR most of this thread but a lot of herp derp going on here.
The team is lead by FR, FR don't win on the road much. Baylor was reeling, needing a win, got a last second 3 to tie, and then K-State is in foul trouble; boom, KSU loss. Can't believe they had a 2nd OT.
Keep in mind this was supposed to be the bad year...oh ps, most of you wanted to throw will under the bus (or significantly worse); now we're calling him a senior leader, pssh...
I'm assuming most of the posters in this thread are busting chops, either way though, to tie expectations to what we thought the teams would be in October is a take for losers. Baylor was 3-8 with 4 straight home losses. We are coming off of back to back wins against the two best teams in the conference & had multiple double digit leads in that game. If you don't see that as a bad loss then you don't believe in bad losses.
Also that Will Spradling line was nonsensical, he was the only senior starting in that game that played significant minutes. I'm not sure what calling him the senior leader has to do with his past performance. Are we also ignoring that his career up to a month ago was a massive disappointment?
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DNR most of this thread but a lot of herp derp going on here.
The team is lead by FR, FR don't win on the road much. Baylor was reeling, needing a win, got a last second 3 to tie, and then K-State is in foul trouble; boom, KSU loss. Can't believe they had a 2nd OT.
Keep in mind this was supposed to be the bad year...oh ps, most of you wanted to throw will under the bus (or significantly worse); now we're calling him a senior leader, pssh...
I'm assuming most of the posters in this thread are busting chops, either way though, to tie expectations to what we thought the teams would be in October is a take for losers. Baylor was 3-8 with 4 straight home losses. We are coming off of back to back wins against the two best teams in the conference & had multiple double digit leads in that game. If you don't see that as a bad loss then you don't believe in bad losses.
Also that Will Spradling line was nonsensical, he was the only senior starting in that game that played significant minutes. I'm not sure what calling him the senior leader has to do with his past performance. Are we also ignoring that his career up to a month ago was a massive disappointment?
expectations are just that. meeting or exceeding them is great, when you keep raising the bar, it is unfair.
am i disappointed we lost, yep, surprised, nope. getting all butthurt about it is pointless. just trying to be rational.
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I didn't think oscar's rotation decisions hurt us. Wes was bad and as mentioned earlier he's not good against a zone. We're young. It's going to show in end of game situations. The last sequence in regulation was unlucky and not well played by us.
What pisses me off is that Baylor just doesn't play hard because their head coach doesn't demand it and we lost to that team. They are more talented than us. But we should've won that game.
My fear going forward is that we'll continue to not find success recruiting capable bigs, at least not enough to have any depth and this will kill us against teams with more talent.
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DNR most of this thread but a lot of herp derp going on here.
The team is lead by FR, FR don't win on the road much. Baylor was reeling, needing a win, got a last second 3 to tie, and then K-State is in foul trouble; boom, KSU loss. Can't believe they had a 2nd OT.
Keep in mind this was supposed to be the bad year...oh ps, most of you wanted to throw will under the bus (or significantly worse); now we're calling him a senior leader, pssh...
I'm assuming most of the posters in this thread are busting chops, either way though, to tie expectations to what we thought the teams would be in October is a take for losers. Baylor was 3-8 with 4 straight home losses. We are coming off of back to back wins against the two best teams in the conference & had multiple double digit leads in that game. If you don't see that as a bad loss then you don't believe in bad losses.
Also that Will Spradling line was nonsensical, he was the only senior starting in that game that played significant minutes. I'm not sure what calling him the senior leader has to do with his past performance. Are we also ignoring that his career up to a month ago was a massive disappointment?
expectations are just that. meeting or exceeding them is great, when you keep raising the bar, it is unfair.
am i disappointed we lost, yep, surprised, nope. getting all butthurt about it is pointless. just trying to be rational.
You are allowed to change your mind based on new information. The idea that we should judge the team's performance in February based on our expectations from November when we knew little about the freshman, the player rotations, or Baylor's actual ability as a team is silly.
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I didn't think oscar's rotation decisions hurt us. Wes was bad and as mentioned earlier he's not good against a zone. We're young. It's going to show in end of game situations. The last sequence in regulation was unlucky and not well played by us.
What pisses me off is that Baylor just doesn't play hard because their head coach doesn't demand it and we lost to that team. They are more talented than us. But we should've won that game.
My fear going forward is that we'll continue to not find success recruiting capable bigs, at least not enough to have any depth and this will kill us against teams with more talent.
What was the name of that big that was supposed to be really good this year but didn't make good enough grades to come to KState? I'm guessing that oscar was dealt a big blow when he couldn't come on campus.
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I didn't think oscar's rotation decisions hurt us. Wes was bad and as mentioned earlier he's not good against a zone. We're young. It's going to show in end of game situations. The last sequence in regulation was unlucky and not well played by us.
What pisses me off is that Baylor just doesn't play hard because their head coach doesn't demand it and we lost to that team. They are more talented than us. But we should've won that game.
My fear going forward is that we'll continue to not find success recruiting capable bigs, at least not enough to have any depth and this will kill us against teams with more talent.
What was the name of that big that was supposed to be really good this year but didn't make good enough grades to come to KState? I'm guessing that oscar was dealt a big blow when he couldn't come on campus.
Fincher. I believe he went the JUCO route and still has K-State in mind for his junior and senior year. But I'm not sure if we still have him in mind.
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Not sure if this gem from the scout board has been posted yet
I would rather place 5th and beat KU than place 2nd and lose to KU. Weber seemed to use some of this game to teach the kids. He went for the win against KU. It is clear that playing Thomas was a learning experience, even though it probably cost us our lead.
:facepalm:
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Not sure if this gem from the scout board has been posted yet
I would rather place 5th and beat KU than place 2nd and lose to KU. Weber seemed to use some of this game to teach the kids. He went for the win against KU. It is clear that playing Thomas was a learning experience, even though it probably cost us our lead.
:facepalm:
holy crap
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Maybe it's not that we're extra bad on the road, but that we're just not that good in general and we're getting home wins off the emotion of heroes like winters and metalhead.
:thumbs:
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Not sure if this gem from the scout board has been posted yet
I would rather place 5th and beat KU than place 2nd and lose to KU. Weber seemed to use some of this game to teach the kids. He went for the win against KU. It is clear that playing Thomas was a learning experience, even though it probably cost us our lead.
:facepalm:
YUP. This is why I hate K-State fans.
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Not sure if this gem from the scout board has been posted yet
I would rather place 5th and beat KU than place 2nd and lose to KU. Weber seemed to use some of this game to teach the kids. He went for the win against KU. It is clear that playing Thomas was a learning experience, even though it probably cost us our lead.
:facepalm:
Some parts of our fanbase is so losery that it hurts.
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so oscar doesn't bear any responsibility for missed FTs? who does? the players? what the hell are we paying oscar for?
Sorry didn't realize that oscar Weber was out there shooting free throws. I think that he just needs to get playing time figured out.
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Not sure if this gem from the scout board has been posted yet
I would rather place 5th and beat KU than place 2nd and lose to KU. Weber seemed to use some of this game to teach the kids. He went for the win against KU. It is clear that playing Thomas was a learning experience, even though it probably cost us our lead.
:facepalm:
YUP. This is why I hate K-State fans.
wut? Didn't you, just 6 days ago, throw a tantrum on here about chanting eff ku? Weren't you one of the people saying that chant is ok because it's KU? So the emphasis on KU is okay as a justification to act like an unsophisticated savage but not okay in this instance? Makes perfect sense.
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Maybe it's not that we're extra bad on the road, but that we're just not that good in general and we're getting home wins off the emotion of heroes like winters and metalhead.
:thumbs:
i appreciate the sentiment, but i'm hardly a hero. i'm certainly not in the same league as our guy, wintz.
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Not sure if this gem from the scout board has been posted yet
I would rather place 5th and beat KU than place 2nd and lose to KU. Weber seemed to use some of this game to teach the kids. He went for the win against KU. It is clear that playing Thomas was a learning experience, even though it probably cost us our lead.
:facepalm:
YUP. This is why I hate K-State fans.
wut? Didn't you, just 6 days ago, throw a tantrum on here about chanting eff ku? Weren't you one of the people saying that chant is ok because it's KU? So the emphasis on KU is okay as a justification to act like an unsophisticated savage but not okay in this instance? Makes perfect sense.
MIR, do you enjoy picking fights with people all day on gE?
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:popcorn:
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Not sure if this gem from the scout board has been posted yet
I would rather place 5th and beat KU than place 2nd and lose to KU. Weber seemed to use some of this game to teach the kids. He went for the win against KU. It is clear that playing Thomas was a learning experience, even though it probably cost us our lead.
:facepalm:
YUP. This is why I hate K-State fans.
wut? Didn't you, just 6 days ago, throw a tantrum on here about chanting eff ku? Weren't you one of the people saying that chant is ok because it's KU? So the emphasis on KU is okay as a justification to act like an unsophisticated savage but not okay in this instance? Makes perfect sense.
MIR, do you enjoy picking fights with people all day on gE?
don't make this about me, I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy & wondering how you're going to justify it. making this about me doesn't address your inconsistency, let's focus on that instead of the tired "stop bothering me" stuff.
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Not sure if this gem from the scout board has been posted yet
I would rather place 5th and beat KU than place 2nd and lose to KU. Weber seemed to use some of this game to teach the kids. He went for the win against KU. It is clear that playing Thomas was a learning experience, even though it probably cost us our lead.
:facepalm:
YUP. This is why I hate K-State fans.
wut? Didn't you, just 6 days ago, throw a tantrum on here about chanting eff ku? Weren't you one of the people saying that chant is ok because it's KU? So the emphasis on KU is okay as a justification to act like an unsophisticated savage but not okay in this instance? Makes perfect sense.
MIR, do you enjoy picking fights with people all day on gE?
don't make this about me, I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy & wondering how you're going to justify it. making this about me doesn't address your inconsistency, let's focus on that instead of the tired "stop bothering me" stuff.
It's not inconsistent. Just because I like to yell eff KU doesn't mean I'd rather finish fifth and beat them than second and lose to them. You don't get to make that correlation. It's not the same thing.
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Not sure if this gem from the scout board has been posted yet
I would rather place 5th and beat KU than place 2nd and lose to KU. Weber seemed to use some of this game to teach the kids. He went for the win against KU. It is clear that playing Thomas was a learning experience, even though it probably cost us our lead.
:facepalm:
YUP. This is why I hate K-State fans.
wut? Didn't you, just 6 days ago, throw a tantrum on here about chanting eff ku? Weren't you one of the people saying that chant is ok because it's KU? So the emphasis on KU is okay as a justification to act like an unsophisticated savage but not okay in this instance? Makes perfect sense.
MIR, do you enjoy picking fights with people all day on gE?
don't make this about me, I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy & wondering how you're going to justify it. making this about me doesn't address your inconsistency, let's focus on that instead of the tired "stop bothering me" stuff.
It's not inconsistent. Just because I like to yell eff KU doesn't mean I'd rather finish fifth and beat them than second and lose to them. You don't get to make that correlation. It's not the same thing.
Fair enough. I'm going to keep doing it at KU games though. I've never done it once at any other game. Surely they won't take it away if everyone actually only chants it one game a year, right? It's not my fault there are losers who do it when we play Texas and Oklahoma.
both examples are using ku hate to justify stupidity; his is a rationalization for finishing lower in the standings, yours is a rationalization for intentionally defying social mores to look like a fool. They are the same.
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some people think breaking the law to speed is ok. some people think breaking the law to murder is ok. they are they same
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Jim webridge can't win a road game
You mean Juice Webridge?
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I didn't think oscar's rotation decisions hurt us. Wes was bad and as mentioned earlier he's not good against a zone. We're young. It's going to show in end of game situations. The last sequence in regulation was unlucky and not well played by us.
What pisses me off is that Baylor just doesn't play hard because their head coach doesn't demand it and we lost to that team. They are more talented than us. But we should've won that game.
My fear going forward is that we'll continue to not find success recruiting capable bigs, at least not enough to have any depth and this will kill us against teams with more talent.
What was the name of that big that was supposed to be really good this year but didn't make good enough grades to come to KState? I'm guessing that oscar was dealt a big blow when he couldn't come on campus.
Fincher. I believe he went the JUCO route and still has K-State in mind for his junior and senior year. But I'm not sure if we still have him in mind.
Fincher would be at best an average big 12 Freshmen post and only provided depth. I think we might of move on from him.
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I didn't think oscar's rotation decisions hurt us. Wes was bad and as mentioned earlier he's not good against a zone. We're young. It's going to show in end of game situations. The last sequence in regulation was unlucky and not well played by us.
What pisses me off is that Baylor just doesn't play hard because their head coach doesn't demand it and we lost to that team. They are more talented than us. But we should've won that game.
My fear going forward is that we'll continue to not find success recruiting capable bigs, at least not enough to have any depth and this will kill us against teams with more talent.
What was the name of that big that was supposed to be really good this year but didn't make good enough grades to come to KState? I'm guessing that oscar was dealt a big blow when he couldn't come on campus.
Fincher. I believe he went the JUCO route and still has K-State in mind for his junior and senior year. But I'm not sure if we still have him in mind.
Fincher would be at best an average big 12 Freshmen post and only provided depth. I think we might of move on from him.
Hurt's the one who supposed to be really good, and his grades are fine I think. :dunno:
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BRUCIE PEE PEE!!
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BRUCIE PEE PEE!!
interesting first post
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son of kk's first sock! :love:
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some people think breaking the law to speed is ok. some people think breaking the law to murder is ok. they are they same
which is which in this analogy
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Some people think cucumbers taste better pickled :dunno:
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Some people think cucumbers taste better pickled :dunno:
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MIR just outing people in this thread.
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some people think breaking the law to speed is ok. some people think breaking the law to murder is ok. they are they same
which is which in this analogy
It doesn't matter because everything is the same
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some people think breaking the law to speed is ok. some people think breaking the law to murder is ok. they are they same
:nono: malum in se v. malum prohibita.
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Every big 12 team has played 7 at home and 7 on the road. EMAW's win differential between the two is 6. The next highest differential is 3. Please check my math, mocat.
EMAW & KU are the only 2 undefeated teams at home. What's the matter with Kansas? It's where foreign teams go to die.
http://www.big12sports.com/standings/Standings.dbml?SPID=13134
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Every big 12 team has played 7 at home and 7 on the road. EMAW's win differential between the two is 6. The next highest differential is 3. Please check my math, mocat.
EMAW & KU are the only 2 undefeated teams at home. What's the matter with Kansas? It's where foreign teams go to die.
http://www.big12sports.com/standings/Standings.dbml?SPID=13134
Joining us in this regard: WSU......Duke.........AZ............Creighton........Florida.....STEPHEN EFFING AUSTIN........and North Carolina (Central). Sorry if I missed someone. Oh and Mercer.
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Every big 12 team has played 7 at home and 7 on the road. EMAW's win differential between the two is 6. The next highest differential is 3. Please check my math, mocat.
EMAW & KU are the only 2 undefeated teams at home. What's the matter with Kansas? It's where foreign teams go to die.
http://www.big12sports.com/standings/Standings.dbml?SPID=13134
Joining us in this regard: WSU......Duke.........AZ............Creighton........Florida.....STEPHEN EFFING AUSTIN........and North Carolina (Central). Sorry if I missed someone. Oh and Mercer.
Sorry, big 12 teams, but I'd be low to medium interested in what the home-road differentials look like in other conferences. The big 12's is all over the place.
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So is this the team we all expected to see at the beginning of the year?
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Seriously, is there a more losery coach in America?
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@TylerDreiling Marcus Foster tells me he thought K-State would lose after Tech tied the game late @coachbruceweber
CONFIDENCE BUILDING!
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@TylerDreiling Marcus Foster tells me he thought K-State would lose after Tech tied the game late @coachbruceweber
CONFIDENCE BUILDING!
First Gip now Foster. Trolling aint just for gE.com
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@TylerDreiling Marcus Foster tells me he thought K-State would lose after Tech tied the game late @coachbruceweber
CONFIDENCE BUILDING!
is it me or does Tyler's @ seem like he's tattling, I don't understand the reason for the @
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@TylerDreiling Marcus Foster tells me he thought K-State would lose after Tech tied the game late @coachbruceweber
CONFIDENCE BUILDING!
is it me or does Tyler's @ seem like he's tattling, I don't understand the reason for the @
Idiots WOULD get pissed at that quote.