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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: PoetWarrior on December 11, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
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http://youtu.be/rB_9j8Zt6aM
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Ditto PWs.
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I think I get it!
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Merry Christmas, everyone
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Wow, I miss last year's team. By PW - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJcpgpiGjpw&list=UU-wKfDwUCINW7y9XUXc0piQ
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Wow, I miss last year's team. By PW - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJcpgpiGjpw&list=UU-wKfDwUCINW7y9XUXc0piQ
:lol: in the comment section of that video, an OU fan melts down.
Jack Cooper1 year ago
AND rough ridin' SORRY ABOUT GETTING RAPED BY BAYLOR! REMEMBER THAT, OH AND LAST YEAR WE RAPED YOU. REMEMBER THAT? REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE THE LITERAL DEFINITION OF SUCK IN FOOTBALL? REMEMBER YOU DICK SUCKING SONS OF BITCHES!
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http://youtu.be/rB_9j8Zt6aM
A little too rapey for my liking.
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Merry Christmas, PW
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Wow, I miss last year's team. By PW - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJcpgpiGjpw&list=UU-wKfDwUCINW7y9XUXc0piQ
so, so beautiful. wow.
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i'm a huge sucker for PW videos.
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I'm not convinced Bill is behind this travesty. However, I will continue hating him for it.
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i'm a huge sucker for PW videos.
Sorry you like shitty videos.
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i'm a huge sucker for PW videos.
Sorry you like shitty videos.
like limp bizkit videos? :lol:
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i'm a huge sucker for PW videos.
Sorry you like shitty videos.
like limp bizkit videos? :lol:
How DARE you?!
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:curse: :love: :bawl:
"Mother, why can I not feel as I should... must? Once false, I must not be again. Take out the thorn."
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What if we compromise and let Jake be QB for his Senior year (with Tyler Lockett) and then let Sams be QB for his Senior year (with junior soon to go pro Gronkowski)?
:cheers:
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What if we compromise and let Jake be QB for his Senior year (with Tyler Lockett) and then let Sams be QB for his Senior year (with junior soon to go pro Gronkowski)?
:cheers:
:buh-bye:
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kinda creeped out by that video
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Merry Creepy Awesome Christmas :thumbs:
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WWJFUBS
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Oh damn, the kiss of death. Sorry Sams. :frown:
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Not about Sams starting, Sams being a good player or firing Snyder.
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:horrorsurprise:
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:clap:
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Could use more stotting, but otherwise, Merry Christmas PW.
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beautiful, pw. as always. merry Christmas, my friend.
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i really don't understand how people don't like poetwarrior's videos. each one is amazing.
this year's christmas one contrasting Sams and Bill's demeanors was very good. last year's with Klein and Harper. last year's OU video one is probably my favorite (the song from tree of life :love:). not to mention his long track record of putting together insanely good videos. the distorted west virginia one last year was pretty off the wall.
shame on anyone who doesn't appreciate them.
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I've liked everyone of PW's video's except this one. I watched ESPN 30 for 30's Maurice Clarett special tonight, and I thought PW could have done a particular clip better. However, I vomit when you pit LHC Bill Snyder against a backup QB.
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shame on you
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shame on you
Shame on you, you ungrateful piece of crap.
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i really don't understand how people don't like poetwarrior's videos. each one is amazing.
this year's christmas one contrasting Sams and Bill's demeanors was very good. last year's with Klein and Harper. last year's OU video one is probably my favorite (the song from tree of life :love:). not to mention his long track record of putting together insanely good videos. the distorted west virginia one last year was pretty off the wall.
shame on anyone who doesn't appreciate them.
:thumbs:
dlew12 and i "get it".
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Could use more stotting, but otherwise, Merry Christmas PW.
Gigastotts
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shame on you
Shame on you, you ungrateful piece of crap.
You're making a grave mistake my friend
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shame on you
Shame on you, you ungrateful piece of crap.
You're making a grave mistake my friend
By being team Bill? Forgive me for putting my trust in the greatest college football coach ever and not putting all my chips behind a QB who is very erratic in the passing game and all you rough ridin' idiots on this board.
And PI is the pussiest thing I've ever heard of.
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shame on you
Shame on you, you ungrateful piece of crap.
You're making a grave mistake my friend
By being team Bill? Forgive me for putting my trust in the greatest college football coach ever and not putting all my chips behind a QB who is very erratic in the passing game and all you rough ridin' idiots on this board.
And PI is the pussiest thing I've ever heard of.
You really need to pick up a hobby or something.
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shame on you
Shame on you, you ungrateful piece of crap.
You're making a grave mistake my friend
By being team Bill? Forgive me for putting my trust in the greatest college football coach ever and not putting all my chips behind a QB who is very erratic in the passing game and all you rough ridin' idiots on this board.
And PI is the pussiest thing I've ever heard of.
What in the world is wrong with you?
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Great response, guys. :thumbsup:
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I don't feel safe around bucket. If this were the Real World I would kick you out and ask you to leave your house key. We'd likely have a house meeting and discuss your behavior, you would apologize and in the long run we think its a better idea if we just separated. You could come back for the reunion, obvs.
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shame on you
Shame on you, you ungrateful piece of crap.
By being team Bill? Forgive me for putting my trust in the greatest college football coach ever and not putting all my chips behind a QB who is very erratic in the passing game and all you rough ridin' idiots on this board.
And PI is the pussiest thing I've ever heard of.
Oh...you were calling me ungrateful? That's odd. I'd be surprised if you found a bigger Snyder fan/apologist on this board other than me. Anyhow, the video isn't about Sams starting or firing Snyder or whatever:
Not about Sams starting, Sams being a good player or firing Snyder.
See? PW said it himself. The video just juxtaposes Snyder's and Sams's demeanors. Snyder's always super duper serious and pretty much always looks frustrated on the sideline (which is not necessarily a criticism) and Sams is always super animated. I'd never thought about that comparison before, and at the very least it warrants a "huh. that's pretty interesting," rather than a gross picture of someone barfing.
You're making a grave mistake my friend
:thumbs:
Thanks, Muscle.
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#teamdlewseven
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Great video. Snyder sucks. Go cats. Play Daniel.
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Great video. Snyder sucks. Go cats. Play Daniel.
PW said it's not about that, Kim.
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Can someone with some balls remove that disgusting picture?
Only if you promise to take Kimmy. :gocho:
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I don't feel safe around bucket. If this were the Real World I would kick you out and ask you to leave your house key. We'd likely have a house meeting and discuss your behavior, you would apologize and in the long run we think its a better idea if we just separated. You could come back for the reunion, obvs.
Lol, nailed it
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fybs
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:Poke:
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:bang:
fybs fydm fydd
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Team BID.
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I'm fine with turning over our model intercollegiate athletics program to PW.
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You all should be lined up on a wall and shot.
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JFC not now MR
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You all should be lined up on a wall and shot.
uh wut
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You all should be lined up on a wall and shot.
uh wut
You don't get an opinion in here, bud. Take a hike.
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You all should be lined up on a wall and shot.
uh wut
You don't get an opinion in here, bud. Take a hike.
Me? Why?
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What a crappy video.
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JFC not now MR
Sorry, but I'm not going to sit here and read this blasphemous drivel from a bunch of whiny brats who think that losing one effing player is going to cause our program to plummet into an ice age. The sky isn't falling and K-State isn't doomed you jack wagons! I think some of you forgot who orchestrated this whole thing to begin with. It wasn't your beloved John Curry, and it sure as crap wasn't that premadonna Daniel Sams. If the kid can't hack it then adios! Good luck elsewhere pal.
As a strong supporter I can only trust that Snyder and his staff have made the right decisions to give us the best opportunity to win. Making Waters the primary go-to under center was the best thing to happen to us last season, and deep down in your bitter, jealous hearts you rough ridin' know it! Some of us didn't like the decision to put Waters ahead of Sams, but it got us the wins we needed to right the ship, and I'll be damned if Waters didn't look like a stud doing it. We won a rough ridin' bowl game for Christ's sake and you people still bitch!!! Answer this question honestly; can any of you see that happening with Sams as the starter?
Ungrateful is what you are, cowards even! You ought to be ashamed of yourselves! Where the hell do your loyalties lie? With some kid who is going to waste his talents at another school because he would rather give up than try a little harder? Or with a university, and a coach, and a program that has always been there for you and stands for something bigger and strives to be better? A community and a family that binds together in hard times and dares to move forward when the rest of the world tells us we can't.
LHC Bill Snyder said he came to Kansas State because of the people, stayed because of the people and returned because of the people. I'm not so sure any of you are among those people he talks about. So take a good look in the mirror tonight and ask yourself what it is you see; a no-crap, die-hard, bleeds purple and white until the day you die Kansas State Wildcats fan? Or a spineless, rotten, pansy-ass, no good waste of space who doesn't even deserve to wear their dad's old 2001 Insight.com Bowl t-shirt that he only wears when he does yard work and is torn to shreds and has paint stains on it? I'll let you decide for yourselves... :buh-bye:
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dnr
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dnr
good for you...
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That was.....AWESOME! But wait, maybe you were really being serious. If so, that is some serious butthurt over others having butthurt. Probably the worst kind of butthurt.
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That was.....AWESOME! But wait, maybe you were really being serious. If so, that is some serious butthurt over others having butthurt. Probably the worst kind of butthurt.
I go hard in the paint, slobber.
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JFC not now MR
Sorry, but I'm not going to sit here and read this blasphemous drivel from a bunch of whiny brats who think that losing one effing player is going to cause our program to plummet into an ice age. The sky isn't falling and K-State isn't doomed you jack wagons! I think some of you forgot who orchestrated this whole thing to begin with. It wasn't your beloved John Curry, and it sure as crap wasn't that premadonna Daniel Sams. If the kid can't hack it then adios! Good luck elsewhere pal.
As a strong supporter I can only trust that Snyder and his staff have made the right decisions to give us the best opportunity to win. Making Waters the primary go-to under center was the best thing to happen to us last season, and deep down in your bitter, jealous hearts you rough ridin' know it! Some of us didn't like the decision to put Waters ahead of Sams, but it got us the wins we needed to right the ship, and I'll be damned if Waters didn't look like a stud doing it. We won a rough ridin' bowl game for Christ's sake and you people still bitch!!! Answer this question honestly; can any of you see that happening with Sams as the starter?
Ungrateful is what you are, cowards even! You ought to be ashamed of yourselves! Where the hell do your loyalties lie? With some kid who is going to waste his talents at another school because he would rather give up than try a little harder? Or with a university, and a coach, and a program that has always been there for you and stands for something bigger and strives to be better? A community and a family that binds together in hard times and dares to move forward when the rest of the world tells us we can't.
LHC Bill Snyder said he came to Kansas State because of the people, stayed because of the people and returned because of the people. I'm not so sure any of you are among those people he talks about. So take a good look in the mirror tonight and ask yourself what it is you see; a no-crap, die-hard, bleeds purple and white until the day you die Kansas State Wildcats fan? Or a spineless, rotten, pansy-ass, no good waste of space who doesn't even deserve to wear their dad's old 2001 Insight.com Bowl t-shirt that he only wears when he does yard work and is torn to shreds and has paint stains on it? I'll let you decide for yourselves... :buh-bye:
lolwut
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That was.....AWESOME! But wait, maybe you were really being serious. If so, that is some serious butthurt over others having butthurt. Probably the worst kind of butthurt.
I go hard in the paint, slobber.
Take it to the pickup basketball thread, it is great reading about that over there.
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That was.....AWESOME! But wait, maybe you were really being serious. If so, that is some serious butthurt over others having butthurt. Probably the worst kind of butthurt.
I go hard in the paint, slobber.
Take it to the pickup basketball thread, it is great reading about that over there.
I'm sure it is, but I was speaking figuratively.
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JFC not now MR
LHC Bill Snyder IS GOD! BOW DOWN PEASANTS!
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Ungrateful rough ridin' cowards. All of you's!
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"LHC Bill Snyder has NEVER made an incorrect decision! NEVER!!"
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JFC not now MR
Sorry, but I'm not going to sit here and read this blasphemous drivel from a bunch of whiny brats who think that losing one effing player is going to cause our program to plummet into an ice age. The sky isn't falling and K-State isn't doomed you jack wagons! I think some of you forgot who orchestrated this whole thing to begin with. It wasn't your beloved John Curry, and it sure as crap wasn't that premadonna Daniel Sams. If the kid can't hack it then adios! Good luck elsewhere pal.
As a strong supporter I can only trust that Snyder and his staff have made the right decisions to give us the best opportunity to win. Making Waters the primary go-to under center was the best thing to happen to us last season, and deep down in your bitter, jealous hearts you rough ridin' know it! Some of us didn't like the decision to put Waters ahead of Sams, but it got us the wins we needed to right the ship, and I'll be damned if Waters didn't look like a stud doing it. We won a rough ridin' bowl game for Christ's sake and you people still bitch!!! Answer this question honestly; can any of you see that happening with Sams as the starter?
Ungrateful is what you are, cowards even! You ought to be ashamed of yourselves! Where the hell do your loyalties lie? With some kid who is going to waste his talents at another school because he would rather give up than try a little harder? Or with a university, and a coach, and a program that has always been there for you and stands for something bigger and strives to be better? A community and a family that binds together in hard times and dares to move forward when the rest of the world tells us we can't.
LHC Bill Snyder said he came to Kansas State because of the people, stayed because of the people and returned because of the people. I'm not so sure any of you are among those people he talks about. So take a good look in the mirror tonight and ask yourself what it is you see; a no-crap, die-hard, bleeds purple and white until the day you die Kansas State Wildcats fan? Or a spineless, rotten, pansy-ass, no good waste of space who doesn't even deserve to wear their dad's old 2001 Insight.com Bowl t-shirt that he only wears when he does yard work and is torn to shreds and has paint stains on it? I'll let you decide for yourselves... :buh-bye:
^ has kind of a Scout board whiff to it, no matter what your position on Sams is. Just sayin'
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JFC not now MR
Sorry, but I'm not going to sit here and read this blasphemous drivel from a bunch of whiny brats who think that losing one effing player is going to cause our program to plummet into an ice age. The sky isn't falling and K-State isn't doomed you jack wagons! I think some of you forgot who orchestrated this whole thing to begin with. It wasn't your beloved John Curry, and it sure as crap wasn't that premadonna Daniel Sams. If the kid can't hack it then adios! Good luck elsewhere pal.
As a strong supporter I can only trust that Snyder and his staff have made the right decisions to give us the best opportunity to win. Making Waters the primary go-to under center was the best thing to happen to us last season, and deep down in your bitter, jealous hearts you rough ridin' know it! Some of us didn't like the decision to put Waters ahead of Sams, but it got us the wins we needed to right the ship, and I'll be damned if Waters didn't look like a stud doing it. We won a rough ridin' bowl game for Christ's sake and you people still bitch!!! Answer this question honestly; can any of you see that happening with Sams as the starter?
Ungrateful is what you are, cowards even! You ought to be ashamed of yourselves! Where the hell do your loyalties lie? With some kid who is going to waste his talents at another school because he would rather give up than try a little harder? Or with a university, and a coach, and a program that has always been there for you and stands for something bigger and strives to be better? A community and a family that binds together in hard times and dares to move forward when the rest of the world tells us we can't.
LHC Bill Snyder said he came to Kansas State because of the people, stayed because of the people and returned because of the people. I'm not so sure any of you are among those people he talks about. So take a good look in the mirror tonight and ask yourself what it is you see; a no-crap, die-hard, bleeds purple and white until the day you die Kansas State Wildcats fan? Or a spineless, rotten, pansy-ass, no good waste of space who doesn't even deserve to wear their dad's old 2001 Insight.com Bowl t-shirt that he only wears when he does yard work and is torn to shreds and has paint stains on it? I'll let you decide for yourselves... :buh-bye:
I didn't even read this, but I can tell it is a pure work of art. Whose sock is this and how did you hide him for this long?
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Is mouserat doing that thing where we c and p the dumbass posts from GPC?
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JFC not now MR
Sorry, but I'm not going to sit here and read this blasphemous drivel from a bunch of whiny brats who think that losing one effing player is going to cause our program to plummet into an ice age. The sky isn't falling and K-State isn't doomed you jack wagons! I think some of you forgot who orchestrated this whole thing to begin with. It wasn't your beloved John Curry, and it sure as crap wasn't that premadonna Daniel Sams. If the kid can't hack it then adios! Good luck elsewhere pal.
As a strong supporter I can only trust that Snyder and his staff have made the right decisions to give us the best opportunity to win. Making Waters the primary go-to under center was the best thing to happen to us last season, and deep down in your bitter, jealous hearts you rough ridin' know it! Some of us didn't like the decision to put Waters ahead of Sams, but it got us the wins we needed to right the ship, and I'll be damned if Waters didn't look like a stud doing it. We won a rough ridin' bowl game for Christ's sake and you people still bitch!!! Answer this question honestly; can any of you see that happening with Sams as the starter?
Ungrateful is what you are, cowards even! You ought to be ashamed of yourselves! Where the hell do your loyalties lie? With some kid who is going to waste his talents at another school because he would rather give up than try a little harder? Or with a university, and a coach, and a program that has always been there for you and stands for something bigger and strives to be better? A community and a family that binds together in hard times and dares to move forward when the rest of the world tells us we can't.
LHC Bill Snyder said he came to Kansas State because of the people, stayed because of the people and returned because of the people. I'm not so sure any of you are among those people he talks about. So take a good look in the mirror tonight and ask yourself what it is you see; a no-crap, die-hard, bleeds purple and white until the day you die Kansas State Wildcats fan? Or a spineless, rotten, pansy-ass, no good waste of space who doesn't even deserve to wear their dad's old 2001 Insight.com Bowl t-shirt that he only wears when he does yard work and is torn to shreds and has paint stains on it? I'll let you decide for yourselves... :buh-bye:
I didn't even read this, but I can tell it is a pure work of art. Whose sock is this and how did you hide him for this long?
Not a sock
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Oh look, another shitty poster that blindly follows old balls.
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
It takes a lot of speculation to apply this logic to Daniel Sams. JMHO.
Our coaching staff makes millions of dollars to build and run this football program. They made the decision to go with Waters at QB and therefore Sams thought he had to try to find another position to get on the field. There are plenty of things that could be questioned in the scenario that happened; ie. did Sams get a fair shot at QB? Did Waters earn the spot? What happened from the OSU/BU games to the end of the season to cause the change? I get those questions and they have validity based on the facts that we have (performance stats by both players).
Really, my only question for Sams would be whether or not he really gave the switch to receiver a fair shot. I'm not sure one session of spring practices (about 15) is enough for him (or the coaches) to decide that he clearly wasn't going to have a legitimate shot to be one of our top 3 receivers (which is probably where he needed to be on the field 60% or more of the snaps). Given a summer of work and a full fall practice slate leading up to our first game he may have been able to earn his way into the top 3. Maybe he didn't want to take that chance given what he learned in spring practice. Or maybe he really wants to play quarterback or really wants to be closer to home. Whatever the case, I hope he does well wherever he lands next.
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
It takes a lot of speculation to apply this logic to Daniel Sams. JMHO.
Our coaching staff makes millions of dollars to build and run this football program. They made the decision to go with Waters at QB and therefore Sams thought he had to try to find another position to get on the field. There are plenty of things that could be questioned in the scenario that happened; ie. did Sams get a fair shot at QB? Did Waters earn the spot? What happened from the OSU/BU games to the end of the season to cause the change? I get those questions and they have validity based on the facts that we have (performance stats by both players).
Really, my only question for Sams would be whether or not he really gave the switch to receiver a fair shot. I'm not sure one session of spring practices (about 15) is enough for him (or the coaches) to decide that he clearly wasn't going to have a legitimate shot to be one of our top 3 receivers (which is probably where he needed to be on the field 60% or more of the snaps). Given a summer of work and a full fall practice slate leading up to our first game he may have been able to earn his way into the top 3. Maybe he didn't want to take that chance given what he learned in spring practice. Or maybe he really wants to play quarterback or really wants to be closer to home. Whatever the case, I hope he does well wherever he lands next.
I agree with you 100% It is just frustrating not knowing. Especially when the player involved was so fun to watch in a K-State uniform. I'd speculate that outside voices told him he should be the star. So when he wasn't going to he made a young person type decision and bailed. Unfortunately, I think he will regret missing the next two years at K-State, because they are going to be special.
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
Actually I think Snyder does historically keep players, they just may not play. Bryce Brown choose to leave because he wasn't getting playing time that he thought he should even though he wouldn't block on pass plays. Daniel Davis comes to mind of someone with lots of potential that didn't conform to Snyder but still got to stay and didn't play. Also, who was that stud 5* LB we had that really never played? I think Snyder keeps even the ones that might be poison around to try and teach them life lessons and to be better men when they graduate.
As for Sams, I don't think any of this applies. He has never said anything along the lines of "we are trying to get him to do what we like to do" or whatever coach speak he uses to say they aren't listening. He has said on several occasions that he has done Sams a disservice by not getting him on the field. So those thoughts by Snyder show that he doesn't think Sams is poison.
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
gtfooh you dumb mother rough rider. all you had to do was not post stupid crap and you would have flown under the radar and other equally dumbass posters would have taken your spot as resident ding dong.
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
gtfooh you dumb mother rough rider. all you had to do was not post stupid crap and you would have flown under the radar and other equally dumbass posters would have taken your spot as resident ding dong.
Resident ding dong? Your complaint is that I post. Yet you postulate that if I didn't supposedly someone else would exactly the same way I do. So, given this as "fact", you'd just hop on the board to rag on posters anyways. Why are you antagonizing other posters ok_cat? Did someone hurt you? Did they hurt you bad? Come to papa Yard Dog and tell me alllll about it.
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
poison the well? what a horrible, horrible choice of words to describe sams' role in the program. i'm sure you didn't mean that.
bill doesn't give a crap about developing future leaders. he wants to win football games. he wins by being helping people be more focused and disciplined, which just happens to work well in areas of life besides college football. he is great at instilling discipline but he is also very stubborn and sometimes close-minded or shortsighted.
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
poison the well? what a horrible, horrible choice of words to describe sams' role in the program. i'm sure you didn't mean that.
bill doesn't give a crap about developing future leaders. he wants to win football games. he wins by being helping people be more focused and disciplined, which just happens to work well in areas of life besides college football. he is great at instilling discipline but he is also very stubborn and sometimes close-minded or shortsighted.
I'm only grasping at straws here. Until we have the real answer behind everything we can only make assumptions based off of past observations. I still find it hard to believe that Sams would transfer. To me it is an extremely selfish decision. That leads me to believe maybe #life wasn't the stand up guy we all assumed he was.
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i always love these.
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You guys do know that Bryce Brown plays in the NFL right?
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
poison the well? what a horrible, horrible choice of words to describe sams' role in the program. i'm sure you didn't mean that.
bill doesn't give a crap about developing future leaders. he wants to win football games. he wins by being helping people be more focused and disciplined, which just happens to work well in areas of life besides college football. he is great at instilling discipline but he is also very stubborn and sometimes close-minded or shortsighted.
I'm only grasping at straws here. Until we have the real answer behind everything we can only make assumptions based off of past observations. I still find it hard to believe that Sams would transfer. To me it is an extremely selfish decision. That leads me to believe maybe #life wasn't the stand up guy we all assumed he was.
have you rough ridin' met him? if not, quit defaming his character, jackass.
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yard dog, you should ask around about how may times Snyder has covered up a good player getting arrested before it became news, and how much he punished them in those situations (Protip: little to none) .
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
poison the well? what a horrible, horrible choice of words to describe sams' role in the program. i'm sure you didn't mean that.
bill doesn't give a crap about developing future leaders. he wants to win football games. he wins by being helping people be more focused and disciplined, which just happens to work well in areas of life besides college football. he is great at instilling discipline but he is also very stubborn and sometimes close-minded or shortsighted.
I'm only grasping at straws here. Until we have the real answer behind everything we can only make assumptions based off of past observations. I still find it hard to believe that Sams would transfer. To me it is an extremely selfish decision. That leads me to believe maybe #life wasn't the stand up guy we all assumed he was.
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THIS BRILLIANT PW VID, OR ANY OF LAST SEASON?!?!?!
http://youtu.be/rB_9j8Zt6aM
Did you see Daniel pumping up the defense during timeouts on third down as being toxic?
You just might be the absolute the rough ridin' worst.
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
poison the well? what a horrible, horrible choice of words to describe sams' role in the program. i'm sure you didn't mean that.
bill doesn't give a crap about developing future leaders. he wants to win football games. he wins by being helping people be more focused and disciplined, which just happens to work well in areas of life besides college football. he is great at instilling discipline but he is also very stubborn and sometimes close-minded or shortsighted.
I'm only grasping at straws here. Until we have the real answer behind everything we can only make assumptions based off of past observations. I still find it hard to believe that Sams would transfer. To me it is an extremely selfish decision. That leads me to believe maybe #life wasn't the stand up guy we all assumed he was.
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THIS BRILLIANT PW VID, OR ANY OF LAST SEASON?!?!?!
http://youtu.be/rB_9j8Zt6aM
Did you see Daniel pumping up the defense during timeouts on third down as being toxic?
You just might be the absolute the rough ridin' worst.
I am referring entirely to non game time situations. Like I said, I am only making assumptions based off past observations with Snyder. Snyder values how a player contributes in all aspects. At the end of the day it was still an incredibly selfish decision to transfer by a player you are making out to be a complete saint.
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Sports are a rare combo of selfish. No individual drives themselves to be the best they can be because they want it primarily for the team. They want it for themselves. They want to play and by doing so, want to win.
You could say every kid on any competitive team is selfish.
There is a bunch of I's in TEAM.
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
poison the well? what a horrible, horrible choice of words to describe sams' role in the program. i'm sure you didn't mean that.
bill doesn't give a crap about developing future leaders. he wants to win football games. he wins by being helping people be more focused and disciplined, which just happens to work well in areas of life besides college football. he is great at instilling discipline but he is also very stubborn and sometimes close-minded or shortsighted.
I'm only grasping at straws here. Until we have the real answer behind everything we can only make assumptions based off of past observations. I still find it hard to believe that Sams would transfer. To me it is an extremely selfish decision. That leads me to believe maybe #life wasn't the stand up guy we all assumed he was.
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THIS BRILLIANT PW VID, OR ANY OF LAST SEASON?!?!?!
http://youtu.be/rB_9j8Zt6aM
Did you see Daniel pumping up the defense during timeouts on third down as being toxic?
You just might be the absolute the rough ridin' worst.
I am referring entirely to non game time situations. Like I said, I am only making assumptions based off past observations with Snyder. Snyder values how a player contributes in all aspects. At the end of the day it was still an incredibly selfish decision to transfer by a player you are making out to be a complete saint.
He's selfish because he's transferring? Go eff yourself.
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Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well. I can remember one such player that would have made us extremely formidable had he put in any effort: Bryce Brown. Man I would have loved to see him play a full season as a Wildcat. But Bill doesn't take excuses and he sure as hell doesn't coddle young men with talent because they are better than anyone. Bill only cares about developing future leaders, and part of that comes with humility. I love what our coach stands for.
gtfooh you dumb mother rough rider. all you had to do was not post stupid crap and you would have flown under the radar and other equally dumbass posters would have taken your spot as resident ding dong.
Resident ding dong? Your complaint is that I post. Yet you postulate that if I didn't supposedly someone else would exactly the same way I do. So, given this as "fact", you'd just hop on the board to rag on posters anyways. Why are you antagonizing other posters ok_cat? Did someone hurt you? Did they hurt you bad? Come to papa Yard Dog and tell me alllll about it.
He's never been the same since he predicted "It's Patterson" before any other ITK ppl.
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Oh damn, the kiss of death. Sorry Sams. :frown:
PW curse strikes again.
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I am referring entirely to non game time situations. Like I said, I am only making assumptions based off past observations with Snyder. Snyder values how a player contributes in all aspects. At the end of the day it was still an incredibly selfish decision to transfer by a player you are making out to be a complete saint.
What non-game-time situations are you fabricating? Daniel was fishing?
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Here's my defense on the selfish front. Given the option to stay with a program aimed at success but taking a minor roll or transfer to a school with very little chance at success and taking a major roll possibly #LIFE decided to leave behind his friends and FAMILY to pursue what? A chance to be the starting QB at McNeese State? Please give me the line of reasoning that this makes sense in. The logical conclusion IMO is that he is chasing fame. If not fame then he has to be in control. If he has as high of a ceiling as you all say, why was he worried he wouldn't see the field as a receiver come the fall?
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dnr
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Here's my defense on the selfish front. Given the option to stay with a program aimed at success but taking a minor roll or transfer to a school with very little chance at success and taking a major roll possibly #LIFE decided to leave behind his friends and FAMILY to pursue what? A chance to be the starting QB at McNeese State? Please give me the line of reasoning that this makes sense in. The logical conclusion IMO is that he is chasing fame. If not fame then he has to be in control. If he has as high of a ceiling as you all say, why was he worried he wouldn't see the field as a receiver come the fall?
PPl that are really good at sports like to play sports. Pretty simple.
Also, you obvsly buy into the whole family talking point/marketing tool way too much.
He isn't chasing fame. He is chasing playing time in actual rough ridin' games.
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I am referring entirely to non game time situations. Like I said, I am only making assumptions based off past observations with Snyder. Snyder values how a player contributes in all aspects. At the end of the day it was still an incredibly selfish decision to transfer by a player you are making out to be a complete saint.
What non-game-time situations are you fabricating? Daniel was fishing?
I am referring entirely to assumptions. We have a high quality, high talented player. He is in a system where he will be given a chance to succeed. He may not be QB, but he will see playing time. Yet, he is transferring. He had the opportunity to win the qb position outright and what happened? Someone who all of the Sams humpers think is talentless beat him fair and square. Are you trying to say that Bill or one of his coaching staff had a secret vendetta? That sounds like a harder to fathom fabrication then Sams not trying as hard as he should.
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Here's my defense on the selfish front. Given the option to stay with a program aimed at success but taking a minor roll or transfer to a school with very little chance at success and taking a major roll possibly #LIFE decided to leave behind his friends and FAMILY to pursue what? A chance to be the starting QB at McNeese State? Please give me the line of reasoning that this makes sense in. The logical conclusion IMO is that he is chasing fame. If not fame then he has to be in control. If he has as high of a ceiling as you all say, why was he worried he wouldn't see the field as a receiver come the fall?
PPl that are really good at sports like to play sports. Pretty simple.
Also, you obvsly buy into the whole family talking point/marketing tool way too much.
He isn't chasing fame. He is chasing playing time in actual rough ridin' games.
Will being the starting qb for one year at McNeese State where they go 9-3 help him more than earning a starting WR spot for the 2015 season at K-State when it comes to the draft?
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If he wants to be a QB, yes.
Playing at all usually helps not playing at all unless you go to USC.
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Here's my defense on the selfish front. Given the option to stay with a program aimed at success but taking a minor roll or transfer to a school with very little chance at success and taking a major roll possibly #LIFE decided to leave behind his friends and FAMILY to pursue what? A chance to be the starting QB at McNeese State? Please give me the line of reasoning that this makes sense in. The logical conclusion IMO is that he is chasing fame. If not fame then he has to be in control. If he has as high of a ceiling as you all say, why was he worried he wouldn't see the field as a receiver come the fall?
Most people go to college as a why to get a career. I think Snyder is honest with kids and will tell them the truth. I think Sams saw his opportunity to get the career he wanted fading here at KSU due to his talks with Snyder. Maybe he opted to give himself the best chance at his desired career that he wanted, which was not at KSU. It will all be speculation because we will never know what Snyder and him talked about.
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Here's my defense on the selfish front. Given the option to stay with a program aimed at success but taking a minor roll or transfer to a school with very little chance at success and taking a major roll possibly #LIFE decided to leave behind his friends and FAMILY to pursue what? A chance to be the starting QB at McNeese State? Please give me the line of reasoning that this makes sense in. The logical conclusion IMO is that he is chasing fame. If not fame then he has to be in control. If he has as high of a ceiling as you all say, why was he worried he wouldn't see the field as a receiver come the fall?
PPl that are really good at sports like to play sports. Pretty simple.
Also, you obvsly buy into the whole family talking point/marketing tool way too much.
He isn't chasing fame. He is chasing playing time in actual rough ridin' games.
Will being the starting qb for one year at McNeese State where they go 9-3 help him more than earning a starting WR spot for the 2015 season at K-State when it comes to the draft?
He will have 2 years to play at McNeese State. One year if he would have went to an FBS school
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Here's my defense on the selfish front. Given the option to stay with a program aimed at success but taking a minor roll or transfer to a school with very little chance at success and taking a major roll possibly #LIFE decided to leave behind his friends and FAMILY to pursue what? A chance to be the starting QB at McNeese State? Please give me the line of reasoning that this makes sense in. The logical conclusion IMO is that he is chasing fame. If not fame then he has to be in control. If he has as high of a ceiling as you all say, why was he worried he wouldn't see the field as a receiver come the fall?
PPl that are really good at sports like to play sports. Pretty simple.
Also, you obvsly buy into the whole family talking point/marketing tool way too much.
He isn't chasing fame. He is chasing playing time in actual rough ridin' games.
Will being the starting qb for one year at McNeese State where they go 9-3 help him more than earning a starting WR spot for the 2015 season at K-State when it comes to the draft?
He will have 2 years to play at McNeese State. One year if he would have went to an FBS school
You are assuming that he won't have to play back up for a year ;) haha jk
So, will being the starting qb for two years at McNeese State where they go 9-3 (both seasons) help him more than earning a starting WR spot during the 2014 season and all of the 2015 season at K-State when it comes to the draft?
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JFC not now MR
Sorry, but I'm not going to sit here and read this blasphemous drivel from a bunch of whiny brats who think that losing one effing player is going to cause our program to plummet into an ice age. The sky isn't falling and K-State isn't doomed you jack wagons! I think some of you forgot who orchestrated this whole thing to begin with. It wasn't your beloved John Curry, and it sure as crap wasn't that premadonna Daniel Sams. If the kid can't hack it then adios! Good luck elsewhere pal.
As a strong supporter I can only trust that Snyder and his staff have made the right decisions to give us the best opportunity to win. Making Waters the primary go-to under center was the best thing to happen to us last season, and deep down in your bitter, jealous hearts you rough ridin' know it! Some of us didn't like the decision to put Waters ahead of Sams, but it got us the wins we needed to right the ship, and I'll be damned if Waters didn't look like a stud doing it. We won a rough ridin' bowl game for Christ's sake and you people still bitch!!! Answer this question honestly; can any of you see that happening with Sams as the starter?
Ungrateful is what you are, cowards even! You ought to be ashamed of yourselves! Where the hell do your loyalties lie? With some kid who is going to waste his talents at another school because he would rather give up than try a little harder? Or with a university, and a coach, and a program that has always been there for you and stands for something bigger and strives to be better? A community and a family that binds together in hard times and dares to move forward when the rest of the world tells us we can't.
LHC Bill Snyder said he came to Kansas State because of the people, stayed because of the people and returned because of the people. I'm not so sure any of you are among those people he talks about. So take a good look in the mirror tonight and ask yourself what it is you see; a no-crap, die-hard, bleeds purple and white until the day you die Kansas State Wildcats fan? Or a spineless, rotten, pansy-ass, no good waste of space who doesn't even deserve to wear their dad's old 2001 Insight.com Bowl t-shirt that he only wears when he does yard work and is torn to shreds and has paint stains on it? I'll let you decide for yourselves... :buh-bye:
:lol:
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Here's my defense on the selfish front. Given the option to stay with a program aimed at success but taking a minor roll or transfer to a school with very little chance at success and taking a major roll possibly #LIFE decided to leave behind his friends and FAMILY to pursue what? A chance to be the starting QB at McNeese State? Please give me the line of reasoning that this makes sense in. The logical conclusion IMO is that he is chasing fame. If not fame then he has to be in control. If he has as high of a ceiling as you all say, why was he worried he wouldn't see the field as a receiver come the fall?
PPl that are really good at sports like to play sports. Pretty simple.
Also, you obvsly buy into the whole family talking point/marketing tool way too much.
He isn't chasing fame. He is chasing playing time in actual rough ridin' games.
Will being the starting qb for one year at McNeese State where they go 9-3 help him more than earning a starting WR spot for the 2015 season at K-State when it comes to the draft?
He will have 2 years to play at McNeese State. One year if he would have went to an FBS school
You are assuming that he won't have to play back up for a year ;) haha jk
So, will being the starting qb for two years at McNeese State where they go 9-3 (both seasons) help him more than earning a starting WR spot during the 2014 season and all of the 2015 season at K-State when it comes to the draft?
Well look at it this way. In 2014 he would be at best 2nd option to studly Lockett. So he would probably have a minimal impact on stats at WR. In 2015 we don't even know if we have a QB that can get him the ball. So if he goes 2 years to McNeese State and has a studly performance both years, then yes it would do better for his draft stock. At best in my scenario I would see him as a UDFA as WR at KSU.
As for his work ethic, I have never seen it challenged except for here. It seems like he is always talking about working/film/etc.. Snyder has never said anything that would make you think otherwise. So again I wonder if it is all just speculation. Speculation turns to fact real quickly on message boards.
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I am referring entirely to non game time situations. Like I said, I am only making assumptions based off past observations with Snyder. Snyder values how a player contributes in all aspects. At the end of the day it was still an incredibly selfish decision to transfer by a player you are making out to be a complete saint.
What non-game-time situations are you fabricating? Daniel was fishing?
I am referring entirely to assumptions. We have a high quality, high talented player. He is in a system where he will be given a chance to succeed. He may not be QB, but he will see playing time. Yet, he is transferring. He had the opportunity to win the qb position outright and what happened? Someone who all of the Sams humpers think is talentless beat him fair and square. Are you trying to say that Bill or one of his coaching staff had a secret vendetta? That sounds like a harder to fathom fabrication then Sams not trying as hard as he should.
I am not making assumptions; that is almost entirely where I am taking issue with your driveling, you idiot.
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Here's my defense on the selfish front. Given the option to stay with a program aimed at success but taking a minor roll or transfer to a school with very little chance at success and taking a major roll possibly #LIFE decided to leave behind his friends and FAMILY to pursue what? A chance to be the starting QB at McNeese State? Please give me the line of reasoning that this makes sense in. The logical conclusion IMO is that he is chasing fame. If not fame then he has to be in control. If he has as high of a ceiling as you all say, why was he worried he wouldn't see the field as a receiver come the fall?
PPl that are really good at sports like to play sports. Pretty simple.
Also, you obvsly buy into the whole family talking point/marketing tool way too much.
He isn't chasing fame. He is chasing playing time in actual rough ridin' games.
Will being the starting qb for one year at McNeese State where they go 9-3 help him more than earning a starting WR spot for the 2015 season at K-State when it comes to the draft?
He will have 2 years to play at McNeese State. One year if he would have went to an FBS school
You are assuming that he won't have to play back up for a year ;) haha jk
So, will being the starting qb for two years at McNeese State where they go 9-3 (both seasons) help him more than earning a starting WR spot during the 2014 season and all of the 2015 season at K-State when it comes to the draft?
Well look at it this way. In 2014 he would be at best 2nd option to studly Lockett. So he would probably have a minimal impact on stats at WR. In 2015 we don't even know if we have a QB that can get him the ball. So if he goes 2 years to McNeese State and has a studly performance both years, then yes it would do better for his draft stock. At best in my scenario I would see him as a UDFA as WR at KSU.
As for his work ethic, I have never seen it challenged except for here. It seems like he is always talking about working/film/etc.. Snyder has never said anything that would make you think otherwise. So again I wonder if it is all just speculation. Speculation turns to fact real quickly on message boards.
Agreed. I was sincerely hoping all the talk about Sams transfer was one of those situations. I currently would trust our staff to figure out a way to get him involved no matter what. So I'd be curious if his decision was predicated on the fact that a member of the coaching staff told him he wouldn't be playing.
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I am referring entirely to non game time situations. Like I said, I am only making assumptions based off past observations with Snyder. Snyder values how a player contributes in all aspects. At the end of the day it was still an incredibly selfish decision to transfer by a player you are making out to be a complete saint.
What non-game-time situations are you fabricating? Daniel was fishing?
I am referring entirely to assumptions. We have a high quality, high talented player. He is in a system where he will be given a chance to succeed. He may not be QB, but he will see playing time. Yet, he is transferring. He had the opportunity to win the qb position outright and what happened? Someone who all of the Sams humpers think is talentless beat him fair and square. Are you trying to say that Bill or one of his coaching staff had a secret vendetta? That sounds like a harder to fathom fabrication then Sams not trying as hard as he should.
I am not making assumptions; that is almost entirely where I am taking issue with your driveling, you idiot.
No you are just placing blame and lashing out to comfort your hurt EMAW deep inside. I deal with this pain with speculation. It is cathartic for me.
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I am referring entirely to non game time situations. Like I said, I am only making assumptions based off past observations with Snyder. Snyder values how a player contributes in all aspects. At the end of the day it was still an incredibly selfish decision to transfer by a player you are making out to be a complete saint.
What non-game-time situations are you fabricating? Daniel was fishing?
I am referring entirely to assumptions. We have a high quality, high talented player. He is in a system where he will be given a chance to succeed. He may not be QB, but he will see playing time. Yet, he is transferring. He had the opportunity to win the qb position outright and what happened? Someone who all of the Sams humpers think is talentless beat him fair and square. Are you trying to say that Bill or one of his coaching staff had a secret vendetta? That sounds like a harder to fathom fabrication then Sams not trying as hard as he should.
I am not making assumptions; that is almost entirely where I am taking issue with your driveling, you idiot.
No you are just placing blame and lashing out to comfort your hurt EMAW deep inside. I deal with this pain with speculation. It is cathartic for me.
Kind of feel like blaming you for being a piece of crap is justified in this instance.
A PoetWarrior thread doesn't deserve this.
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...A chance to be the starting QB at McNeese State? Please give me the line of reasoning that this makes sense in. The logical conclusion IMO is that he is chasing fame.
No you are just placing blame and lashing out to comfort your hurt EMAW deep inside. I deal with this pain with speculation. It is cathartic for me.
I don't care how many times you use cathartic or postulating or any other awesome words you remember from PSAT prep classes, they won't make your posts be any less dumb.
"Postulating" about a player who has shown no evidence but to be extremely EMAW and a big-time team player from day one is not going to go well. Search for "Pullen" and "Stolen Bike" for a good lesson in postulating.
Oh and that McNeese State/chasing fame thing was really rich. Just great stuff. Nearly sock-ish.
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I am referring entirely to non game time situations. Like I said, I am only making assumptions based off past observations with Snyder. Snyder values how a player contributes in all aspects. At the end of the day it was still an incredibly selfish decision to transfer by a player you are making out to be a complete saint.
What non-game-time situations are you fabricating? Daniel was fishing?
I am referring entirely to assumptions. We have a high quality, high talented player. He is in a system where he will be given a chance to succeed. He may not be QB, but he will see playing time. Yet, he is transferring. He had the opportunity to win the qb position outright and what happened? Someone who all of the Sams humpers think is talentless beat him fair and square. Are you trying to say that Bill or one of his coaching staff had a secret vendetta? That sounds like a harder to fathom fabrication then Sams not trying as hard as he should.
I am not making assumptions; that is almost entirely where I am taking issue with your driveling, you idiot.
No you are just placing blame and lashing out to comfort your hurt EMAW deep inside. I deal with this pain with speculation. It is cathartic for me.
Kind of feel like blaming you for being a piece of crap is justified in this instance.
A PoetWarrior thread doesn't deserve this.
I don't think it is justified to call anyone a piece of crap because of their opinion on amateur sports? I definitely don't think you are one. Unless you can point out a situation where I said something libelous.
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...A chance to be the starting QB at McNeese State? Please give me the line of reasoning that this makes sense in. The logical conclusion IMO is that he is chasing fame.
No you are just placing blame and lashing out to comfort your hurt EMAW deep inside. I deal with this pain with speculation. It is cathartic for me.
I don't care how many times you use cathartic or postulating or any other awesome words you remember from PSAT prep classes, they won't make your posts be any less dumb.
"Postulating" about a player who has shown no evidence but to be extremely EMAW and a big-time team player from day one is not going to go well. Search for "Pullen" and "Stolen Bike" for a good lesson in postulating.
Oh and that McNeese State/chasing fame thing was really rich. Just great stuff. Nearly sock-ish.
:facepalm: You need to not take my theories so literally, I am only putting them out there for discussion. It is possible we all are using tunnel vision and that hearing a different viewpoint can crack open whatever it is that is blinding us. I prefer to learn from debate, I find it to be a very healthy way to deal with the hurt I feel over losing someone I really cheered for. (also being from Kansas I only ever took the ACT)
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I'm from KS and I took the SAT. :dunno:
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I'm from KS and I took the SAT. :dunno:
Why?
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Thought it would be cathartic for me.
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Here's my defense on the selfish front. Given the option to stay with a program aimed at success but taking a minor roll or transfer to a school with very little chance at success and taking a major roll possibly #LIFE decided to leave behind his friends and FAMILY to pursue what? A chance to be the starting QB at McNeese State? Please give me the line of reasoning that this makes sense in. The logical conclusion IMO is that he is chasing fame. If not fame then he has to be in control. If he has as high of a ceiling as you all say, why was he worried he wouldn't see the field as a receiver come the fall?
Quit being a dumbass. There are a lot of variables that go into a decision like this... Family (both blood and "K-State family), personal reasons, proximity to loved ones with health issues, playing time, interactions with coach(es), etc.
All play a part and to varying degrees. It's not nearly as cut & dried as you all want to make it out to be, however. At the end of the day, there should be some level of happiness/passion that is inherent in playing the game and that was becoming a challenge for our guy.
The likelihood of him getting into the NFL is "iffy" at best. With that said, he's really got two more years of playing competitive football unless he opts for the arena league. Assuming that a "Boykin-esque" package was not created for him during the spring, then I understand why he might want to step down to a competitive FCS level team to play the vast majority of the offensive snaps and hopefully make a playoff run.
As a fan/supporter of K-State football, the selfish side of me is sad/angry/disappointed in this news. However, I also realize how short the window of "football opportunity" stays open. Lots of kids choose to go play at a level they can stay on the field full-time... It's just rare when it happens like this.
:buh-bye:
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I don't think it is justified to call anyone a piece of crap because of their opinion on amateur sports? I definitely don't think you are one. Unless you can point out a situation where I said something libelous.
Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well.
:dubious:
You need to not take my theories so literally, I am only putting them out there for discussion. It is possible we all are using tunnel vision and that hearing a different viewpoint can crack open whatever it is that is blinding us. I prefer to learn from debate, I find it to be a very healthy way to deal with the hurt I feel over losing someone I really cheered for.
What in the wide, wide world of sports? So, in addition to not taking the SAT, it's safe to assume you were never involved in debate ... where you cart around literal cases of evidence.
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I don't think it is justified to call anyone a piece of crap because of their opinion on amateur sports? I definitely don't think you are one. Unless you can point out a situation where I said something libelous.
Snyder historically does not keep players around that poison the well.
:dubious:
You need to not take my theories so literally, I am only putting them out there for discussion. It is possible we all are using tunnel vision and that hearing a different viewpoint can crack open whatever it is that is blinding us. I prefer to learn from debate, I find it to be a very healthy way to deal with the hurt I feel over losing someone I really cheered for.
What in the wide, wide world of sports? So, in addition to not taking the SAT, it's safe to assume you were never involved in debate ... where you cart around literal cases of evidence.
Taking my quotes out of context helps your point sure, but it just confuses the matter. In the Midwest, Universities look at the ACT not the SAT so that is what I studied for and took. I always wanted to do debate, but at my school you couldn't play varsity athletics and be on the debate team because the timing of each overlapped. I barely got to do forensics because I had to wait till basketball season was over.
To reiterate my talking point on "poisoning the well" I was inferring that the evidence might support that was why Daniel was transferring. That idea has since been debunked by the fact that Bill didn't push anyone out, he just didn't play them.
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jesus christ, what a terrible performance in this thread
:Yuck:
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yard dog is poisoning the goEMAW well
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yard dog is poisoning the goEMAW well
Take your comments to the "Hate on people on goEMAW" thread. We are talking about football here.
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yard dog is poisoning the goEMAW well
Take your comments to the "Hate on people on goEMAW" thread. We are talking about football here.
oh, is that what you've been doing?
:lol:
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yard dog is poisoning the goEMAW well
Take your comments to the "Hate on people on goEMAW" thread. We are talking about football here.
oh, is that what you've been doing?
Yes.
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Thought it would be cathartic for me.
:lol:
Sad I missed this initially.
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Beems is saying this transfer is the end of Snyder on the phog. :ohno:
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Beems is saying this transfer is the end of Snyder on the phog. :ohno:
he really is a treat over there.
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Beems is saying this transfer is the end of Snyder on the phog. :ohno:
What a smock! :shakesfist:
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Classic warning signs of stroke: Honorable Mention Big 12 QB transfers. :dunno: