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This is how I see it stacking up entering camp. After a bit of analysis, I'm not nearly so worried about the defense. This is a pretty deep and talented bunch. Sure, ABJR is gone and virtually irreplaceable and we know that Meshak was a bit of an over-achiever. However, our overall athleticism (as a whole) is better and outside of MLB we should be as fast, or faster, at almost every spot especially our corners.
And, I'll go ahead and say it... I think we are actually going to be stronger at DT than we have been in the past two years.
WDE
1) Ryan Mueller 245 lb Jr
2) Marquel Bryant 241 lb So
3) Tanner Wood 247 lb Fr
SDE
1) Alauna Finau 258 lb Sr
2) Devon Nash 264 lb Jr
3) Jordan Willis 260 lb Fr
DT
1) Travis Britz 293 lb So
2) Demonte Hood 303 lb RS Fr
3) Matt Seiwart 289 lb Fr or Xavier Gates 316 lb So
DT
1) Chaquil Reed 309 lb Sr
2) Chris Brown 330 lb Sr
3) Valentino Coleman 285 lb Jr or DeAndre Roberts 280 lb Jr
LB
1) Mike Moore 217 lb So
2) DaKorey Johnson 200 lb Jr
3) Miles Copeland 217 lb RS Fr
LB
1) Blake Slaughter 227 lb Sr
2) Will Davis 223 lb RS Fr
3) Nick Ramirez 228 lb Fr
LB
1) Tre Walker 225 lb Sr
2) Jonathan Truman 219 lb Jr
3) Cody Marley 243 lb Jr
CB
1) Randall Evans 190 lb Jr
2) Nate Jackson 185 lb Jr
3) Donnie Starks 180 lb RS Fr
CB
1) Carl Miles 190 lb Sr
2) Kip Daily 180 lb Sr
3) Dorian Roberts 168 lb Sr
S
1) Ty Zimmerman 204 lb Sr
2) Jonathan Coleman 205 lb So
3) Travis Green 210 lb
S
1) Dante Barnett 186 lb So
2) Morgan Burns 195 lb So
3) Joseph Bonugli 188 lb Jr
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I agree with most of this except for DT. I've heard Gates has had a good summer and is challenging Britz.
B- source, so :dunno:
My A1+ source graduated. :shakesfist:
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I have ZERO issue with that if true... I think we'll be very pleasantly surprised with the D-Line play.
:emawkid:
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I really hope Marquel Bryant can bulk up enough to start over Finau. I think he has a lot of potential.
I think Truman starts at LB over Slaughter...based off of speed alone
BP..have you heard or seen anything about Carl Miles that leads you to believe he would start over Morgan Burns? Just curious.
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I agree with most of this except for DT. I've heard Gates has had a good summer and is challenging Britz.
B- source, so :dunno:
My A1+ source graduated. :shakesfist:
Britz is pretty badass so that would be pretty great news. Also, the D really looks decent on paper. (Having Burns and Barnett at safety next year excites me. That's some fast crap going on.)
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I really hope Marquel Bryant can bulk up enough to start over Finau. I think he has a lot of potential.
I think Truman starts at LB over Slaughter...based off of speed alone
BP..have you heard or seen anything about Carl Miles that leads you to believe he would start over Morgan Burns? Just curious.
My understanding is that Miles had very good pre-bowl and spring camps, plus he was rotating in ahead of Burns during spring game. Burns has SICK wheels, so if he overtakes Miles in technique and knowledge of the defense I have no qualms about that whatsoever.
As for the Truman/Slaughter debate, I think they'll split snaps fairly evenly although Slaughter will get the nod early on simply based on the sacrifice he made for the good of the team by redshirting last year.... Just my opinion based on how I think it'll play out.
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I thought I remembered reading that Walker would be in the middle this year, not at Will like he was last year before he got hurt.
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I thought I remembered reading that Walker would be in the middle this year, not at Will like he was last year before he got hurt.
I have heard that as well... I think we are pretty interchangable with the Sam & Mike backers, but the kids playing Will won't slide inside much.
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If Mike Moore is a number one at one of the linebacker spots going into fall I don't see him staying there. He's too undersized--needs to bulk up more. I saw him in Dillon's with his gf one evening and I was left wondering if he even lifts weights. I'm a believer Truman will be a starter at one spot and Will Davis will make a strong push for another. It's great to be back btw! Hello to everyone again.
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I do not think Chris Brown made it to town? At least the roster indicated he is not here :dunno:
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Slaughter is going to start all year people. Same with Britz.
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Slaughter is going to start all year people. Same with Britz.
Allah help us if slaughter is the best we have.
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Slaughter is going to start all year people. Same with Britz.
Allah help us if slaughter is the best we have.
if we don't have at least 3 linebackers better than Slaughter we're mumped
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Slaughter is going to start all year people. Same with Britz.
Allah help us if slaughter is the best we have.
Any MLB we have after experiencing the greatness of ABJR is just going to feel like Hrebec all over again :frown:
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I had such high hopes for Slaughter when he committed 9 years ago.
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I had such high hopes for Slaughter when he committed 9 years ago.
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If Mike Moore is a number one at one of the linebacker spots going into fall I don't see him staying there. He's too undersized--needs to bulk up more. I saw him in Dillon's with his gf one evening and I was left wondering if he even lifts weights. I'm a believer Truman will be a starter at one spot and Will Davis will make a strong push for another. It's great to be back btw! Hello to everyone again.
Negative ghost rider. Also one of the freshmen (Woods, Willis) will start by the end of the year. Otherwise we would of recruited more juco DEs last spring.
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I bet Blake Slaughter starts the whole year as well.
The defense was 1st in Big 12 conference scoring last year giving up 23.3 points per game.
This year I am thinking
1. TCU 18 points per game
2. Kansas State/OU/ISU/OSU/Baylor all hanging out around 24 points per game.
7. Texas 27 points per game
8. Tech 32 points per game
9. KU 36 points per game
10. WVU 40 points per game
I think overall scoring will be down in the Big 12 this year due to mass exodus of Quality Quarterbacks. We are not going to be as good as last year but I think TCU, Texas and probably OSU are the only teams that will be better overall than last years teams.
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good list bookie. I hope mike moore is a stud because our lbs....
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Travis Green is 2nd on the depth chart for strong safety.
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Travis Green is 2nd on the depth chart for strong safety.
Source?
That's not how the spring ended.
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I bet Blake Slaughter starts the whole year as well.
The defense was 1st in Big 12 conference scoring last year giving up 23.3 points per game.
This year I am thinking
1. TCU 18 points per game
2. Kansas State/OU/ISU/OSU/Baylor all hanging out around 24 points per game.
7. Texas 27 points per game
8. Tech 32 points per game
9. KU 36 points per game
10. WVU 40 points per game
I think overall scoring will be down in the Big 12 this year due to mass exodus of Quality Quarterbacks. We are not going to be as good as last year but I think TCU, Texas and probably OSU are the only teams that will be better overall than last years teams.
Texas 7th in defensive ppg? No
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Travis Green is 2nd on the depth chart for strong safety.
Source?
That's not how the spring ended.
Hasn't stuff like, happened since then?
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Travis Green is 2nd on the depth chart for strong safety.
Source?
That's not how the spring ended.
Hasn't stuff like, happened since then?
Yes, however OBz depth chart changing since then isn't one of those things unless, of course, there's been a serious arrest that hasn't made the news.
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Travis Green is 2nd on the depth chart for strong safety.
Source?
That's not how the spring ended.
Jarard Milo.
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Travis Green is 2nd on the depth chart for strong safety.
Source?
That's not how the spring ended.
Hasn't stuff like, happened since then?
Yes, however OBz depth chart changing since then isn't one of those things unless, of course, there's been a serious arrest that hasn't made the news.
So, you've actually seen Snyder's latest depth chart? Can you share it with us?
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Travis Green is 2nd on the depth chart for strong safety.
Source?
That's not how the spring ended.
Hasn't stuff like, happened since then?
Yes, however OBz depth chart changing since then isn't one of those things unless, of course, there's been a serious arrest that hasn't made the news.
So, you've actually seen Snyder's latest depth chart? Can you share it with us?
Yes. It was shared with all on April 28...
You should've taken better notes or not been so drunk that day.
HTH.
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I do not think Chris Brown made it to town? At least the roster indicated he is not here :dunno:
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/chris_brown_855689.html
:ksu: :billdance: :ksu:
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Little birdy tells me that Mueller, Nash and Dowling will see time inside on passing downs next to Britz and combo of Seiwert and juco (can't remember name). Same birdy told me last year that Davis and Meshack would combine for 15+ sacks and 25+ tfl, which made me come on here and say we would have a very good pass rush......same little birdy tells me Mike Moore will fill Tuggles shoes quite nicely as hybrid rusher.
Birdy thinks they will be better than what people are anticipating....Says Bryant will be better than Davis as pass rusher with ceiling higher than Meshack.. Says if Dowlings knees hold up, he will be a very pleasant surprise...thinks rotation will keep guys fresh and healthy entire season....Nash, Fiaunu, Mueller and Bryant will be best 2 deep @ DE since Snyder return......starters won't match last years this fall but as group will be better 2 deep
Likes potential at inside spots...Said Britz worked his ass off in the off season and made great strides....Hood still working on technique but talented...doesn't think Seiwert will have quite impact as Britz but will see field.....said Gates has to get better conditioned and be consistent...Reed got better in spring and is hoping he gets sense or urgency to push effort every snap...
Birdy likes potential in jucos but he reserves judgement until pads go on.....and he thinks one of freshman DE could see time and believes Moore will actually make more plays than Tuggle did.
:bill:
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Little birdy tells me that Mueller, Nash and Dowling will see time inside on passing downs next to Britz and combo of Seiwert and juco (can't remember name). Same birdy told me last year that Davis and Meshack would combine for 15+ sacks and 25+ tfl, which made me come on here and say we would have a very good pass rush......same little birdy tells me Mike Moore will fill Tuggles shoes quite nicely as hybrid rusher.
Birdy thinks they will be better than what people are anticipating....Says Bryant will be better than Davis as pass rusher with ceiling higher than Meshack.. Says if Dowlings knees hold up, he will be a very pleasant surprise...thinks rotation will keep guys fresh and healthy entire season....Nash, Fiaunu, Mueller and Bryant will be best 2 deep @ DE since Snyder return......starters won't match last years this fall but as group will be better 2 deep
Likes potential at inside spots...Said Britz worked his ass off in the off season and made great strides....Hood still working on technique but talented...doesn't think Seiwert will have quite impact as Britz but will see field.....said Gates has to get better conditioned and be consistent...Reed got better in spring and is hoping he gets sense or urgency to push effort every snap...
Birdy likes potential in jucos but he reserves judgement until pads go on.....and he thinks one of freshman DE could see time and believes Moore will actually make more plays than Tuggle did.
:bill:
Keep that birdy singing.
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I do not think Chris Brown made it to town? At least the roster indicated he is not here :dunno:
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/chris_brown_855689.html
:ksu: :billdance: :ksu:
Love the new roster, thanks. :cheers:
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Somebody enlighten me regarding our Linebacker situation. Looks very "meh" to me.
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Somebody enlighten me regarding our Linebacker situation. Looks very "meh" to me.
you got it.
as for chris brown, 6'4 345? wow.
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Somebody enlighten me regarding our Linebacker situation. Looks very "meh" to me.
Compared to ANY linebacking crew that includes ABjr, this is probably true. However, I believe that our DL will be better than last year and because of that, will make our LB'ing look pretty solid because of the fact that opposing OL's won't be able to release to the 2nd level.
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as for chris brown, 6'4 345? wow.
yeah. with him and britz clogging the middle it will be tough sledding.
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as for chris brown, 6'4 345? wow.
yeah. with him and britz clogging the middle it will be tough sledding.
Those two should be game changers/stud bosses... With that said, guys that size can't go every snap so we'll need to get serviceable production out of Hood, Reed, Gates and Siewart. If we do...
:drool: :drool: :drool:
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I bet Blake Slaughter starts the whole year as well.
The defense was 1st in Big 12 conference scoring last year giving up 23.3 points per game.
This year I am thinking
1. TCU 18 points per game
2. Kansas State/OU/ISU/OSU/Baylor all hanging out around 24 points per game.
7. Texas 27 points per game
8. Tech 32 points per game
9. KU 36 points per game
10. WVU 40 points per game
I think overall scoring will be down in the Big 12 this year due to mass exodus of Quality Quarterbacks. We are not going to be as good as last year but I think TCU, Texas and probably OSU are the only teams that will be better overall than last years teams.
Texas 7th in defensive ppg? No
Well they were 6th last year so I don't see why this is so far out of the realm of possibility.
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Wallace says Chris Brown and Dakorey Johnson will both be here early next week. Also, didn't realize Brown sat out last year. He claims to be 320 right now but wants to play a little trimmer.
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Somebody enlighten me regarding our Linebacker situation. Looks very "meh" to me.
Compared to ANY linebacking crew that includes ABjr, this is probably true. However, I believe that our DL will be better than last year and because of that, will make our LB'ing look pretty solid because of the fact that opposing OL's won't be able to release to the 2nd level.
I don't see how our DL is going to be better than last year. No way.
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Somebody enlighten me regarding our Linebacker situation. Looks very "meh" to me.
Compared to ANY linebacking crew that includes ABjr, this is probably true. However, I believe that our DL will be better than last year and because of that, will make our LB'ing look pretty solid because of the fact that opposing OL's won't be able to release to the 2nd level.
I don't see how our DL is going to be better than last year. No way.
There was more raw talent on the field in the spring game, albeit inexperienced raw talent. Also, HCBS says we are deeper & have a chance to be better up front.
I'll defer to his opinion at this point.
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Our LBs.... :ohno:
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Our LBs.... :ohno:
See: Reply #33
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Somebody enlighten me regarding our Linebacker situation. Looks very "meh" to me.
Compared to ANY linebacking crew that includes ABjr, this is probably true. However, I believe that our DL will be better than last year and because of that, will make our LB'ing look pretty solid because of the fact that opposing OL's won't be able to release to the 2nd level.
I don't see how our DL is going to be better than last year. No way.
There was more raw talent on the field in the spring game, albeit inexperienced raw talent. Also, HCBS says we are deeper & have a chance to be better up front.
I'll defer to his opinion at this point.
We could possibly be better at DT. I don't see any way we are better at de. Meshack was named big 12 defensive lineman of the year and Adam Davis was pretty good too.