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Title: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: nallen34 on April 23, 2013, 01:17:24 AM
Hey everyone!  I'm an Iowa State fan and I created a document on our forums that shows who every big 12 team loses, returns, and adds to their roster.  I also show all players ESPN and Rivals profile.

Here is the link: http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/mens-basketball/168992-who-big-12-teams-losing-returning-adding.html

I will continue to keep it updated as more additions and transfers take place.  Feel free to just come look it over, or if you feel like sharing some information or commenting, you can sign up here: http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/register.php

Hope to talk to some of you soon.  Take it easy.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: SwiftCat on April 23, 2013, 01:23:00 AM
Good post. Thanks
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: saudiEMAW on April 23, 2013, 01:25:44 AM
Thank you  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Havs on April 23, 2013, 02:35:59 AM
FWIW... we went to the same high school.

Go Cats!
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: ednksu on April 23, 2013, 04:03:08 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on April 23, 2013, 01:15:29 PM
All that I read is that OK.State wins the Big 12 next year and ends KU's reign.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: nallen34 on April 24, 2013, 05:19:20 PM
FWIW... we went to the same high school.

Go Cats!

Where did you go to high school
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: BackPayne on April 24, 2013, 07:07:46 PM
Nice, thanks!

OK State is going to destroy everyone.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: eastcat on May 03, 2013, 06:26:48 PM
Quality posts over there in the flood plains.
Quote
Re: Add Mich St. to Big 12?
I heard MSU is joing up with Notre Dame to get us to 12. KSU will then jump to the SEC. We'll stay at 11 for a while before adding Air Force to get back to 12.
Title: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Pete on May 04, 2013, 09:17:08 AM
Quality posts over there in the flood plains.
Quote
Re: Add Mich St. to Big 12?
I heard MSU is joing up with Notre Dame to get us to 12. KSU will then jump to the SEC. We'll stay at 11 for a while before adding Air Force to get back to 12.

What an idiot.

No, it's Penn State and Notre Dame to the Big 12, and BYU fills the whole we leave when we go to the SEC.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: nallen34 on May 07, 2013, 06:06:28 PM
Added Hopper to the list. 

What is up with you guys not signing any post players right now? 

Right now you have:

6'9 C-Fincher
6'8 PF-Johnson
6'7 PF-Gipson
6'7 SF-Westicles
6'6 SF-Southwell

You guys will get dominated in the post if you don't pick up a couple post players. 
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: eastcat on May 07, 2013, 06:07:25 PM
Added Hopper to the list. 

What is up with you guys not signing any post players right now? 

Right now you have:

6'9 C-Fincher
6'8 PF-Johnson
6'7 PF-Gipson
6'7 SF-Westicles
6'6 SF-Southwell

You guys will get dominated in the post if you don't pick up a couple post players.

Who is this?  :confused:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: nallen34 on May 07, 2013, 06:22:39 PM
I'm an Iowa State fan.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: sys on May 07, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
hoiball loses otzelberger.  big loss, will be interesting to see who he brings in.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Winters on May 07, 2013, 08:27:33 PM
I'm an Iowa State fan.
:lol:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: 'taterblast on May 07, 2013, 08:54:36 PM
lots of 'NR's on our incoming list
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: scottwildcat on May 07, 2013, 10:59:07 PM
lots of 'NR's on our incoming list

But they fit the system.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: EMAWzified on May 08, 2013, 12:01:21 AM
Jesus, we're going to get ass-pounded next year. Texas and Tech could be the only wins.
Weber is burning it down.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: bones129 on May 08, 2013, 12:08:01 AM
Jesus, we're going to get ass-pounded next year. Texas and Tech could be the only wins.
Weber is burning it down.

I'm pessimistic, but I'm not sure I'm that pessimistic.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: jtksu on May 08, 2013, 12:13:08 AM
lots of 'NR's on our incoming list

But they fit the system.

Sadly, the system sucks.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: nallen34 on May 08, 2013, 03:04:19 PM
lots of 'NR's on our incoming list

But they fit the system.

Yeah you guys probably have the worst recruiting class as far as ranked players go.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: scottwildcat on May 08, 2013, 07:11:19 PM
lots of 'NR's on our incoming list

But they fit the system.

Sadly, the system sucks.

I was being sarcastic because that is what oscar said he was going to do is recruit the system not the stars.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Spracne on May 08, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
lots of 'NR's on our incoming list

But they fit the system.

Sadly, the system sucks.

I was being sarcastic because that is what oscar said he was going to do is recruit the system not the stars.

welp, at least the players match the system...
Title: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Pete on May 08, 2013, 07:58:02 PM
lots of 'NR's on our incoming list

But they fit the system.

Yeah you guys probably have the worst recruiting class as far as ranked players go.

What about our schedule?  What is it ranked?
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: scottwildcat on May 08, 2013, 10:54:54 PM
lots of 'NR's on our incoming list

But they fit the system.

Sadly, the system sucks.

I was being sarcastic because that is what oscar said he was going to do is recruit the system not the stars.

welp, at least the players match the system...

yup whatever, go cats, BID, whatever.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: jtksu on May 08, 2013, 11:51:16 PM
lots of 'NR's on our incoming list

But they fit the system.

Sadly, the system sucks.

I was being sarcastic because that is what oscar said he was going to do is recruit the system not the stars.

welp, at least the players match the system...

yup whatever, go cats, BID, whatever.

I could have saved a lot of problems if I had just inserted a simple "also"  in my post. I'm still young to the game, I only got like one jar of salsa to my username.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on May 09, 2013, 01:10:58 PM
How the eff did this thread reach page 2 with no flood pics/jokes/references.

Disappointing to say the least.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: eastcat on May 12, 2013, 01:31:02 AM
How the eff did this thread reach page 2 with no flood pics/jokes/references.

Disappointing to say the least.

 :dubious:

Check reply #8
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: OregonSmock on May 13, 2013, 10:26:19 AM
Rumblings that KU may be the choice for the country's #1 overall prospect, Andrew Wiggins.


 :love:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: scottwildcat on May 13, 2013, 10:29:46 AM
Rumblings that KU may be the choice for the country's #1 overall prospect, Andrew Wiggins.


 :love:

nope, sorry.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: OregonSmock on May 13, 2013, 10:31:14 AM
Rumblings that KU may be the choice for the country's #1 overall prospect, Andrew Wiggins.


 :love:

nope, sorry.


Where's he going, butthurt boy?
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: kslim on May 13, 2013, 10:31:20 AM
Rumblings that KU may be the choice for the country's #1 overall prospect, Andrew Wiggins.


 :love:

'grats beems, get the media away from the scandals  :cheers:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: OregonSmock on May 13, 2013, 10:34:25 AM
Rumblings that KU may be the choice for the country's #1 overall prospect, Andrew Wiggins.


 :love:

'grats beems, get the media away from the scandals  :cheers:


We're untouchable.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: pissclams on May 13, 2013, 10:55:52 AM
i think he's going to FSU (a hunch)
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 13, 2013, 10:59:46 AM
I think Wiggins will go to KU.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: pissclams on May 13, 2013, 11:00:43 AM
I think Wiggins will go to KU.

would be great for TSC
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: PowercatPat on May 13, 2013, 11:56:55 AM
Link?
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2013, 11:59:37 AM
Rumblings that KU may be the choice for the country's #1 overall prospect, Andrew Wiggins.


 :love:

'grats beems, get the media away from the scandals  :cheers:


We're untouchable.
#Selby2.0
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: OregonSmock on May 13, 2013, 12:06:20 PM
Rumblings that KU may be the choice for the country's #1 overall prospect, Andrew Wiggins.


 :love:

'grats beems, get the media away from the scandals  :cheers:


We're untouchable.
#Selby2.0


http://nbadraft.net/ (http://nbadraft.net/)
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: sys on May 13, 2013, 02:14:21 PM
i'm happy for you, bmw, and for most other ku fans (not dumbstick, maybe not a couple others whose names i don't recall).  you deserve this.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: OregonSmock on May 13, 2013, 02:42:09 PM
i'm happy for you, bmw, and for most other ku fans (not dumbstick, maybe not a couple others whose names i don't recall).  you deserve this.


Thanks, sys.  Honestly, I'll be a little bit surprised if Wiggins picks KU, but there are at least rumblings.  There were rumblings with Randle as well, though...


 :dunno:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: sys on May 13, 2013, 02:47:23 PM
Thanks, sys.  Honestly, I'll be a little bit surprised if Wiggins picks KU, but there are at least rumblings.

well,  :crossfingers:


you've got a great class even without him though.  and there's basically no competition left in the big 12 anymore (maybe osu).  good times for jayhawk fans.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 13, 2013, 02:48:37 PM
I think that OSU has to be the favorite next year, but KU will give them a very close race and very well could pull it off.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2013, 02:51:18 PM
God, the big 12 is going to be painfully awful next year.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: sys on May 13, 2013, 02:55:45 PM
I think that OSU has to be the favorite next year, but KU will give them a very close race and very well could pull it off.

yeah next year, i was taking a medium-term outlook.  like over the next five years.  i guess texas could get back on track at any time, but it doesn't seem like they're doing so.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: kostakio on May 13, 2013, 03:21:16 PM
Yup big 12 bball is turning pretty darn soft.  We've probably been the second best program over the last 5 years or so which is kind of cool and sad at the same time.   Texas is capable of challenging if they ditch Barns for a big name, but I'm not sure they care enough to be bothered by such things.  Maybe KU should go join the ACC where people actually like bball and they'd at least have a fighting chance to finish next to last in football.   Seems like it would be kind of hollow to be a KU fan in a league where they dominate a sport nobody tries very hard in.     
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2013, 03:27:50 PM
Sorry beems :cry:

Quote
insider from rivals network says Wiggins to FSU. Take it FWIW, but the guy has great connections and is right 90% of the time.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Skipper44 on May 13, 2013, 03:58:09 PM
I think that OSU has to be the favorite next year, but KU will give them a very close race and very well could pull it off.

yeah next year, i was taking a medium-term outlook.  like over the next five years.  i guess texas could get back on track at any time, but it doesn't seem like they're doing so.
Barnes and Huggins track records would suggest they will get things turned around, but the recruiting (especially at UT) has just not been there. 

OU had such a long run as perennial tournament team with fairly regular conf. champ/deep tourney run type teams but it feels like Lon is there for the paycheck as much as anything.  Drew is gonna Drew and this season will go along way to determining if Ford is always gonna Ford. 

I am sure this my feelings on the webercats bleeding over to the conference at large but it is hard to see it getting much better.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: sys on May 13, 2013, 05:14:53 PM
Barnes and Huggins track records would suggest they will get things turned around, but the recruiting (especially at UT) has just not been there.

i thought about adding wvu, but i think they are going to struggle being the only eastern team in a midwestern league.  at least struggle to the extent that they aren't challenging for conference titles.

agree with you on ou.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 13, 2013, 05:23:01 PM
Why would he want to go to FSU, I thought Leonard Hamilton was awful last year.

Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: pissclams on May 13, 2013, 05:49:19 PM
Why would he want to go to FSU, I thought Leonard Hamilton was awful last year.



his parents were both FSU athletes.  the fact that hamilton does or does not suck means nothing.  he'll be on campus for the fall and be on his way.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 13, 2013, 06:23:31 PM
Why would he want to go to FSU, I thought Leonard Hamilton was awful last year.



his parents were both FSU athletes.  the fact that hamilton does or does not suck means nothing.  he'll be on campus for the fall and be on his way.

Oh yeah, forgot about the P's

Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: lopakman on May 14, 2013, 10:19:04 AM
Why didn't KU just hire his Dad? :dunno:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: GCJayhawker on May 14, 2013, 10:22:41 AM
Why didn't KU just hire his Dad? :dunno:

There actually is a pretty large thought going around that KU may hire his dad as an assistant coach after Wiggins commits to KU.  Of course this is all relies on AW picking KU.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 14, 2013, 10:25:25 AM
Why didn't KU just hire his Dad? :dunno:

There actually is a pretty large thought going around that KU may hire his dad as an assistant coach after Wiggins commits to KU.  Of course this is all relies on AW picking KU.

That would be pretty elite if they did that.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 14, 2013, 10:26:12 AM
How much do you think Wiggins costs to sign?
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: GCJayhawker on May 14, 2013, 10:26:33 AM
Why didn't KU just hire his Dad? :dunno:

There actually is a pretty large thought going around that KU may hire his dad as an assistant coach after Wiggins commits to KU.  Of course this is all relies on AW picking KU.

That would be pretty elite if they did that.

Agreed.  Best part is it is all legal per NCAA rules. You just can't hire family member sin director of basketball operations roles, ala Mario Chalmer's dad.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: GCJayhawker on May 14, 2013, 10:27:06 AM
How much do you think Wiggins costs to sign?

Well word was that Randle cost about 150K, so Wiggins would be more than that.  Probably like 200K
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 14, 2013, 10:27:43 AM
How much do you think Wiggins costs to sign?

Well word was that Randle cost about 150K, so Wiggins would be more than that.  Probably like 200K
:thumbs: That's not bad.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Skipper44 on May 14, 2013, 11:11:33 AM
How much do you think Wiggins costs to sign?

Well word was that Randle cost about 150K, so Wiggins would be more than that.  Probably like 200K
was that to his family, AAU coach or total?
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: OregonSmock on May 14, 2013, 11:36:27 AM
Wiggins to KU!!!

 :dance:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 14, 2013, 11:37:04 AM
Wiggins to KU!!!

 :dance:

LukegonSmock
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: OregonSmock on May 14, 2013, 11:42:10 AM
Wiggins to KU!!!

 :dance:

LukegonSmock


Wiggins to KU!!! 


 :excited:
Title: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Tobias on May 14, 2013, 11:47:31 AM
grats beems :party:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: LHarKSUCat on May 14, 2013, 11:50:45 AM
So, KU has 5 of ESPN's top 50 recruits for next year.. and we have none in the top 100..
Keep doin what you do oscar...
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: lopakman on May 14, 2013, 12:41:21 PM
How much do you think Wiggins costs to sign?

Well word was that Randle cost about 150K, so Wiggins would be more than that.  Probably like 200K

Waste of money.  Could've been put to better use building a indoor rowing practice facility.   
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: OregonSmock on May 14, 2013, 02:20:52 PM
Rumblings that KU may be the choice for the country's #1 overall prospect, Andrew Wiggins.


 :love:

nope, sorry.


Quoted in honor of scottwildcat (aka Butthurt Boy).


 :drool:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 14, 2013, 02:25:45 PM
I think Wiggins will go to KU.

Feels good, beems. :gocho:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: OregonSmock on May 14, 2013, 02:36:43 PM
I think Wiggins will go to KU.

Feels good, beems. :gocho:


 :tsc:
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: sys on May 14, 2013, 07:48:00 PM
Quote
Q: Would Wiggins really be the No. 1 pick in the 2013 NBA draft?

Every GM and scout in the league with whom I've spoken believes Wiggins would be the No. 1 pick in the 2013 NBA draft if he were eligible. Every one.

"Noel is a really good NBA prospect. He's just not a franchise-changing player," said one GM whose team will be in the draft lottery. "[However,] Wiggins is one of the three or four best prospects in the last decade. He has the ability to completely turn around a franchise. All 30 teams would take him with the No. 1 pick if they could."

great work, ku.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: nallen34 on May 15, 2013, 02:45:39 AM
Added what the depth charts might look like for all big 12 teams at the end of the list.
Title: Re: Who Big 12 teams are losing, returning, and adding
Post by: Havs on May 17, 2013, 11:53:21 PM
Rumblings that KU may be the choice for the country's #1 overall prospect, Andrew Wiggins.


 :love:

nope, sorry.


Quoted in honor of scottwildcat (aka Butthurt Boy).


 :drool:

ScottWildcat slept on my futon.  :emawkid: