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How good is Gonzaga, and what do you guys think about a potential rematch? TIA.
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I think Wisconsin will give them a good game.
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Gonzaga is probably the 2nd best team we've played this season. Right behind Michigan. Small chance we win that game. They're legit, bruh!
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Gonzaga wont get past Pitt
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Gonzaga wont get past Pitt
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Trim, Saul, and I watched them pound us from luxury vantage point of few rows off the court. It was a very nice way to watch an ass kicking.
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Gonzaga wont get past Pitt
Pitt isn't getting past WSU so....
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Mark Few is the worst coach of the one seeds and has the worst team of the one seeds. Frank Martin has made it farther in the tournament than mark few, I mean its Frank Martin.
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Obviously, we would love to have the rematch beems. They were the only #1 team that I wanted to play so there's that
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We were awful the first time we played them. Part of it is because Zags are good but we are a totally different team now
Rod was 1-9 FGs, had pts a 5 TOs
As a team we had 18 TOs in 64 poss
We would have to play well to beat them..... but i would rather face them over Indiana or Lville.
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kenpom gives us a 21.7%, so I guess it's possible.
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They are the only number one seed we could beat. Maybe Louisville too.
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They are the only number one seed we could beat. Maybe Louisville too.
Not sure if serious.
Could beat the Zags though.
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Gonzaga is F4 bound, rubes.
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I could see Gonzaga losing to anybody. Including their 16 seed.
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I'm hoping for a particularly crumbly bracket in our region. Boise, Ole Miss, Wichita, Belmont.
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I'm just excited bros!
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If we make it past Wisky we are making it to the Elite 8.
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If we make it past Wisky we are making it to the Elite 8.
Would take an e8 real hard
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kenpom gives us a 21.7%, so I guess it's possible.
Massey puts his balls in kenpom's mouth and Massey says 27%...
:ksu:
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Do not like our chances against the threetar.
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I think Gonzaga is worse than 2 or 3 of the 2 seeds, but they are still really good and probably have the easiest path to a final four out of all of the 1 seeds.
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I think Gonzaga is worse than 2 or 3 of the 2 seeds, but they are still really good and probably have the easiest path to a final four out of all of the 1 seeds.
They easily have the easiest path. It was impossible for me not to put them in the F4.
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I think Gonzaga is worse than 2 or 3 of the 2 seeds, but they are still really good and probably have the easiest path to a final four out of all of the 1 seeds.
They easily have the easiest path. It was impossible for me not to put them in the F4.
They aren't as good as a typical 1 seed, though. It's pretty perplexing, and I just chose Ohio State. Really, I wouldn't be all that surprised if New Mexico found their way out of the West. The region is pretty meh.
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I think Gonzaga is worse than 2 or 3 of the 2 seeds, but they are still really good and probably have the easiest path to a final four out of all of the 1 seeds.
They easily have the easiest path. It was impossible for me not to put them in the F4.
They aren't as good as a typical 1 seed, though. It's pretty perplexing, and I just chose Ohio State. Really, I wouldn't be all that surprised if New Mexico found their way out of the West. The region is pretty meh.
I think Ohio State sucks. I have Zaga beating UNM to take the region. Meh indeed.
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Good God there is some stupidity in this thread. Kougar saved this thread from being used as puppy pee pads. Some of you clearly type while wearing drool bibs.
Gonzaga has two first round draft picks in their starting 5. There isn't a team in the country that can match up with their bigs, not one. Not even Duke. They are significantly better than any of the first three teams they will play and the bottom of the region will likely cannibalize itself. I'm picking them for the final four because I like good players.
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Good God there is some stupidity in this thread. Kougar saved this thread from being used as puppy pee pads. Some of you clearly type while wearing drool bibs.
Gonzaga has two first round draft picks in their starting 5. There isn't a team in the country that can match up with their bigs, not one. Not even Duke. They are significantly better than any of the first three teams they will play and the bottom of the region will likely cannibalize itself. I'm picking them for the final four because I like good players.
Yeah I was waiting for somebody to do this. "Not as good as a typical one seed" is just staggering to see in writing
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Good God there is some stupidity in this thread. Kougar saved this thread from being used as puppy pee pads. Some of you clearly type while wearing drool bibs.
Gonzaga has two first round draft picks in their starting 5. There isn't a team in the country that can match up with their bigs, not one. Not even Duke. They are significantly better than any of the first three teams they will play and the bottom of the region will likely cannibalize itself. I'm picking them for the final four because I like good players.
I love how you come across as knowing nothing about basketball on here just to keep the BBS'ing reasonable... Thanks for that...
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Good God there is some stupidity in this thread. Kougar saved this thread from being used as puppy pee pads. Some of you clearly type while wearing drool bibs.
Gonzaga has two first round draft picks in their starting 5. There isn't a team in the country that can match up with their bigs, not one. Not even Duke. They are significantly better than any of the first three teams they will play and the bottom of the region will likely cannibalize itself. I'm picking them for the final four because I like good players.
I goes you missed my post, bruh!
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Good God there is some stupidity in this thread. Kougar saved this thread from being used as puppy pee pads. Some of you clearly type while wearing drool bibs.
Gonzaga has two first round draft picks in their starting 5. There isn't a team in the country that can match up with their bigs, not one. Not even Duke. They are significantly better than any of the first three teams they will play and the bottom of the region will likely cannibalize itself. I'm picking them for the final four because I like good players.
We are the best team they have played all year. Miami and Duke are better teams than they are, and if we were seeding these teams based upon who they've actually beaten, they should be about a 3 seed.
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We are the best team they have played all year.
Their win over Okie Light in Stillwater is better than their win over us in Seattle.
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We are the best team they have played all year.
Their win over Okie Light in Stillwater is better than their win over us in Seattle.
Sure, but we are the better team than OSU.
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Good God there is some stupidity in this thread. Kougar saved this thread from being used as puppy pee pads. Some of you clearly type while wearing drool bibs.
Gonzaga has two first round draft picks in their starting 5. There isn't a team in the country that can match up with their bigs, not one. Not even Duke. They are significantly better than any of the first three teams they will play and the bottom of the region will likely cannibalize itself. I'm picking them for the final four because I like good players.
Can't argue with any of this... I have a hard time believing that the Zags will wear the 1 seed very well. It's just a ton of pressure which is not made any easier with a step up in class as related to the competition they've faced since beating Okie Lite.
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We are the best team they have played all year.
Their win over Okie Light in Stillwater is better than their win over us in Seattle.
Sure, but we are the better team than OSU.
ok.
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if we were seeding these teams based upon who they've actually beaten, they should be about a 3 seed.
Why would we or anyone else do that? I may be wrong but I feel the best way to evaluate how good a team is would be to actually evaluate the team instead of their opponents. That may be a bit out there though.
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if we were seeding these teams based upon who they've actually beaten, they should be about a 3 seed.
Why would we or anyone else do that? I may be wrong but I feel the best way to evaluate how good a team is would be to actually evaluate the team instead of their opponents. That may be a bit out there though.
Well you can't ignore one or the other. But 31-2 with wins over LITERALLY half the big 12 deserves a 1 seed
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if we were seeding these teams based upon who they've actually beaten, they should be about a 3 seed.
Why would we or anyone else do that? I may be wrong but I feel the best way to evaluate how good a team is would be to actually evaluate the team instead of their opponents. That may be a bit out there though.
Well you can't ignore one or the other. But 31-2 with wins over LITERALLY half the big 12 deserves a 1 seed
Kansas State would have run the table on their conference schedule and we have wins over 80% of the Big 12.
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if we were seeding these teams based upon who they've actually beaten, they should be about a 3 seed.
Why would we or anyone else do that? I may be wrong but I feel the best way to evaluate how good a team is would be to actually evaluate the team instead of their opponents. That may be a bit out there though.
Well you can't ignore one or the other. But 31-2 with wins over LITERALLY half the big 12 deserves a 1 seed
Kansas State would have run the table on their conference schedule and we have wins over 80% of the Big 12.
Kansas State got to settle the matter by playing Gonzaga head-to-head, and lost by a billion.
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if we were seeding these teams based upon who they've actually beaten, they should be about a 3 seed.
Why would we or anyone else do that? I may be wrong but I feel the best way to evaluate how good a team is would be to actually evaluate the team instead of their opponents. That may be a bit out there though.
Well you can't ignore one or the other. But 31-2 with wins over LITERALLY half the big 12 deserves a 1 seed
Kansas State would have run the table on their conference schedule and we have wins over 80% of the Big 12.
Kansas State got to settle the matter by playing Gonzaga head-to-head, and lost by a billion.
People don't think Kansas State should be a 1 seed, either. Compare what Gonzaga did to what Miami did. Ohio State is the only 2 seed I think Gonzaga might be better than, and I suspect that they are not.
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nuts kicked absolutely pounding faces in this thread
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What does NK have against Gonzaga, and/or what reason does he have to believe they are not deserving of the 1 seed?
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What does NK have against Gonzaga, and/or what reason does he have to believe they are not deserving of the 1 seed?
did you forget how to read this morning?
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I suppose if you want to argue that Gonzaga should be a 2, that’s fine. But saying they aren’t good or that they are going to get bounced early is, imo, inaccurate. If you look at who Gonzaga has beaten (and who they’ve lost to) as well as their team, it stacks up. They’ve beaten 6 tourney teams (2 losses only to tourney teams) – in comparison, KU has beaten 8 (w/ 2 of its losses coming to non tourney teams, one of which was just awful).
I’ll note that The difference is that KU got to beat up on crappy tourney teams multiple times (ISU 3x, KSU 3x) so their “total” wins against tourney teams are higher – which you could assume Gonzaga would have done as well, imo. As MiR pointed out, they have talent on their team, especially on their frontline. Sure, you could put them on the 2 line, but they aren’t some fraud.
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if we were seeding these teams based upon who they've actually beaten, they should be about a 3 seed.
Why would we or anyone else do that? I may be wrong but I feel the best way to evaluate how good a team is would be to actually evaluate the team instead of their opponents. That may be a bit out there though.
Well you can't ignore one or the other. But 31-2 with wins over LITERALLY half the big 12 deserves a 1 seed
Kansas State would have run the table on their conference schedule and we have wins over 80% of the Big 12.
Kansas State got to settle the matter by playing Gonzaga head-to-head, and lost by a billion.
People don't think Kansas State should be a 1 seed, either. Compare what Gonzaga did to what Miami did. Ohio State is the only 2 seed I think Gonzaga might be better than, and I suspect that they are not.
It comes down to which you value more: good wins (with bad losses) or lack of bad losses.
Devil you know vs. the devil you don't.
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What does NK have against Gonzaga, and/or what reason does he have to believe they are not deserving of the 1 seed?
I don't have anything against Gonzaga, other than they haven't played a good team in 2013. The last time they played somebody good (OSU), Michigan, Arizona, and Duke were all undefeated. These teams would still be undefeated if they played the garbage schedule that Gonzaga has faced since the new year. I just don't see how you can say that a team that looked great 3 months ago is still great today despite not playing anybody. I would give Gonzaga a 3 seed.
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I suppose if you want to argue that Gonzaga should be a 2, that’s fine. But saying they aren’t good or that they are going to get bounced early is, imo, inaccurate. If you look at who Gonzaga has beaten (and who they’ve lost to) as well as their team, it stacks up. They’ve beaten 6 tourney teams (2 losses only to tourney teams) – in comparison, KU has beaten 8 (w/ 2 of its losses coming to non tourney teams, one of which was just awful).
I’ll note that The difference is that KU got to beat up on crappy tourney teams multiple times (ISU 3x, KSU 3x) so their “total” wins against tourney teams are higher – which you could assume Gonzaga would have done as well, imo. As MiR pointed out, they have talent on their team, especially on their frontline. Sure, you could put them on the 2 line, but they aren’t some fraud.
Why do you assume that Gonzaga would have beaten "crappy tourney teams" like 4 seed KSU 3 times when they got blown out by 7 seed Illinois? The last time Gonzaga played a relevant team, I thought Michigan was the best team in the country. That has proven not to be the case, so maybe Gonzaga isn't still as good as we all think they are, either.
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Why would you assume that Kansas would beat anyone after they lost to TCU or got actually blown out by Baylor?
And Duke has played one relevant team (twice) all conference.
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good grief
nice work beems
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Smock = BITB
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Why would you assume that Kansas would beat anyone after they lost to TCU or got actually blown out by Baylor?
I would assume that because their roster is stacked with NBA talent and they have more quality wins than any other team. I would give them the #1 overall seed. The losses don't really bother me at all. I think it's better to beat good teams and lose to bad teams than it is to beat bad teams and lose to good teams.
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Smock = BITB
his intention was to subtly twist the knife about us losing to whisky. the thread turned into debating gonzaga's worthiness as a 1 seed. so, it failed.
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Why would you assume that Kansas would beat anyone after they lost to TCU or got actually blown out by Baylor?
I would assume that because their roster is stacked with NBA talent and they have more quality wins than any other team. I would give them the #1 overall seed. The losses don't really bother me at all. I think it's better to beat good teams and lose to bad teams than it is to beat bad teams and lose to good teams.
The zags have NBA players. I think you have to weight everything, not just ignore things you don't want to look at. I'm not saying KU isn't a #1, I'm not saying there isn't a case for some other team to take the Zags #1 seed, but their resume stacks up, they have a good team. If they lose, it's not because they shouldn't have been seeded as they were.
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Hey dumbass Gonzaga has two first round draft picks at the 4 and the 5 and another coming off of their bench at the 5. You are talking in circles, we won't think less of you if you call it a day with this talking point.
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Hey dumbass Gonzaga has two first round draft picks at the 4 and the 5 and another coming off of their bench at the 5. You are talking in circles, we won't think less of you if you call it a day with this talking point.
I have said several times that I think Gonzaga is great. I just have a problem with seeding them higher than teams like Miami and Duke when they have only played one tournament team (Butler) in 2013, and didn't even win that game. It's been almost 4 months since Gonzaga won a game against a relevant basketball team.
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That's an odd qualifier you are using to confirm your notion, not to sway it. Gonzaga is a very good team, who have beaten other very good teams. Pretty dumb to place a higher value on where said wins fell on the calendar. They have had no injuries or have even been challenged by the bad teams on their schedule. You want to focus on Gonzaga not beating any good teams in 2013 (what if that OSU game was 24 hours later) but chose to place little to no value on other teams bad losses less than 2 weeks ago.
Also Duke had no business being anywhere near a 1 seed. I think they should have been, in order, Louisville, Gonzaga, Kansas, Miami.
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Duke's resume w/ Ryan Kelly absolutely deserves a #1 seed
And I don't give 2 shits about NBA players on college teams, UCLA has multiple NBA players and they suck terribly
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Duke's resume w/ Ryan Kelly absolutely deserves a #1 seed
And I don't give 2 shits about NBA players on college teams, UCLA has multiple NBA players and they suck terribly
Ya, I have UCLA going out first round. They are bad.
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That's an odd qualifier you are using to confirm your notion, not to sway it. Gonzaga is a very good team, who have beaten other very good teams. Pretty dumb to place a higher value on where said wins fell on the calendar. They have had no injuries or have even been challenged by the bad teams on their schedule. You want to focus on Gonzaga not beating any good teams in 2013 (what if that OSU game was 24 hours later) but chose to place little to no value on other teams bad losses less than 2 weeks ago.
Also Duke had no business being anywhere near a 1 seed. I think they should have been, in order, Louisville, Gonzaga, Kansas, Miami.
where do you think duke belongs? such a different team w/ kelly on the floor but they also are very inconsistent shooting the ball and they tend to rely on the 3 pt shoot too much.
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Smock = BITB
his intention was to subtly twist the knife about us losing to whisky. the thread turned into debating gonzaga's worthiness as a 1 seed. so, it failed.
Disagree. His first post asked what KSU fans thought about a possible rematch with Gonzaga and how good they were. Debating how good Gonzaga is directly relates to the topic.
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That's an odd qualifier you are using to confirm your notion, not to sway it. Gonzaga is a very good team, who have beaten other very good teams. Pretty dumb to place a higher value on where said wins fell on the calendar. They have had no injuries or have even been challenged by the bad teams on their schedule. You want to focus on Gonzaga not beating any good teams in 2013 (what if that OSU game was 24 hours later) but chose to place little to no value on other teams bad losses less than 2 weeks ago.
Also Duke had no business being anywhere near a 1 seed. I think they should have been, in order, Louisville, Gonzaga, Kansas, Miami.
Those bad losses by the other teams 2 weeks ago weren't really all that bad, though. Baylor is still a pretty good team. If the WCC were filled with teams that are as good as Baylor, I would look at Gonzaga much differently. Instead, the WCC, other than Gonzaga, is nothing but teams that are at TCU's level or worse. I just don't see how anybody can evaluate how good a team is playing nothing but teams like that for 3 and a half months. Honestly, those teams are so bad that I wouldn't even look at Gonzaga much differently if they had dropped one or two of them, because they just don't matter. Yes, they looked terrific coming into conference play, but a lot has changed since then. Gonzaga is a big unknown going into the tournament. They very well could be one of the four best teams in the country. I just wouldn't seed them there because I have seen absolutely nothing of them lately.
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Smock = BITB
his intention was to subtly twist the knife about us losing to whisky. the thread turned into debating gonzaga's worthiness as a 1 seed. so, it failed.
Disagree. His first post asked what KSU fans thought about a possible rematch with Gonzaga and how good they were. Debating how good Gonzaga is directly relates to the topic.
I don't think you understand how this works.
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That's an odd qualifier you are using to confirm your notion, not to sway it. Gonzaga is a very good team, who have beaten other very good teams. Pretty dumb to place a higher value on where said wins fell on the calendar. They have had no injuries or have even been challenged by the bad teams on their schedule. You want to focus on Gonzaga not beating any good teams in 2013 (what if that OSU game was 24 hours later) but chose to place little to no value on other teams bad losses less than 2 weeks ago.
Also Duke had no business being anywhere near a 1 seed. I think they should have been, in order, Louisville, Gonzaga, Kansas, Miami.
Those bad losses by the other teams 2 weeks ago weren't really all that bad, though. Baylor is still a pretty good team. If the WCC were filled with teams that are as good as Baylor, I would look at Gonzaga much differently. Instead, the WCC, other than Gonzaga, is nothing but teams that are at TCU's level or worse. I just don't see how anybody can evaluate how good a team is playing nothing but teams like that for 3 and a half months. Honestly, those teams are so bad that I wouldn't even look at Gonzaga much differently if they had dropped one or two of them, because they just don't matter. Yes, they looked terrific coming into conference play, but a lot has changed since then. Gonzaga is a big unknown going into the tournament. They very well could be one of the four best teams in the country. I just wouldn't seed them there because I have seen absolutely nothing of them lately.
Gonzaga is a #1 seed because their jerseys say "Gonzaga". If St Mary's, Santa Clara or San Fransisco had the Zag's season they would be a 3 seed at best
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Whoever was talking about the "pressure" of being a 1 seed is an idiot (don't care to reread to find out who it was)
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Smock = BITB
his intention was to subtly twist the knife about us losing to whisky. the thread turned into debating gonzaga's worthiness as a 1 seed. so, it failed.
Nope. I'm honestly just looking for some HBBIQ bracket advice. There's a good chance Wisconsin loses to Ole Miss.
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Duke's resume w/ Ryan Kelly absolutely deserves a #1 seed
And I don't give 2 shits about NBA players on college teams, UCLA has multiple NBA players and they suck terribly
Duke didn't even win the ACC, and lost to Maryland in the ACC tournament.
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Smock = BITB
his intention was to subtly twist the knife about us losing to whisky. the thread turned into debating gonzaga's worthiness as a 1 seed. so, it failed.
Nope. I'm honestly just looking for some HBBIQ bracket advice. There's a good chance Wisconsin loses to Ole Miss.
BITB
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Smock = BITB
his intention was to subtly twist the knife about us losing to whisky. the thread turned into debating gonzaga's worthiness as a 1 seed. so, it failed.
Nope. I'm honestly just looking for some HBBIQ bracket advice. There's a good chance Wisconsin loses to Ole Miss.
Anything less than an elite 8 appearance for the Zags would be pretty surprising, imho. Everything after that is a crapshoot.
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Duke's resume w/ Ryan Kelly absolutely deserves a #1 seed
And I don't give 2 shits about NBA players on college teams, UCLA has multiple NBA players and they suck terribly
Duke didn't even win the ACC, and lost to Maryland in the ACC tournament.
WITB. duke with RK is a completely different team and one that certainly deserves their #2 seed (which coincidentally, is near a #1 seed).
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Whatever you do guys DO NOT factor in a teams opponents into your overall evaluations.
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Duke's resume w/ Ryan Kelly absolutely deserves a #1 seed
And I don't give 2 shits about NBA players on college teams, UCLA has multiple NBA players and they suck terribly
Duke didn't even win the ACC, and lost to Maryland in the ACC tournament.
WITB. duke with RK is a completely different team and one that certainly deserves their #2 seed (which coincidentally, is near a #1 seed).
Duke deserves a 2-seed. No disagreement there.
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I don't like the belief that because a player was injured, you just ignore a large portion of their season. Injuries or not, resumes are what they are. If an injury completely boned you, you should've had more depth
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I don't like the belief that because a player was injured, you just ignore a large portion of their season. Injuries or not, resumes are what they are. If an injury completely boned you, you should've had more depth
his injury didn't bone them. they went 27-5 this season, all 4 regular season losses they had were without him. #1 seed indiana lost more games than they did (6). #1 KU seed lost 5 games (including 1 to TCU). the point is that without their mvp, duke still only lost 5 games. now they have him back. i'm basing my opinion on the quality of the team as it sits going into the tournament.
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didn't duke lose to maryland w/ and w/out him?
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didn't duke lose to maryland w/ and w/out him?
duke split with maryland without him. lost last weekend with him.
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I don't like the belief that because a player was injured, you just ignore a large portion of their season. Injuries or not, resumes are what they are. If an injury completely boned you, you should've had more depth
his injury didn't bone them. they went 27-5 this season, all 4 regular season losses they had were without him. #1 seed indiana lost more games than they did (6). #1 KU seed lost 5 games (including 1 to TCU). the point is that without their mvp, duke still only lost 5 games. now they have him back. i'm basing my opinion on the quality of the team as it sits going into the tournament.
Yea, Duke is a high seed regardless of anything. Re: team boning, I meant it in general. People kept talking about Texas getting the benefit of they could have even a reasonable record without Kabongo. Would've annoyed me if they would've got in with a Baylor-esque record without having to win games and just having people assume they would've won more.
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I don't like the belief that because a player was injured, you just ignore a large portion of their season. Injuries or not, resumes are what they are. If an injury completely boned you, you should've had more depth
his injury didn't bone them. they went 27-5 this season, all 4 regular season losses they had were without him. #1 seed indiana lost more games than they did (6). #1 KU seed lost 5 games (including 1 to TCU). the point is that without their mvp, duke still only lost 5 games. now they have him back. i'm basing my opinion on the quality of the team as it sits going into the tournament.
This. Duke with Ryan Kelly is a very dangerous team. Personally I like both Duke and Miami better than Gonzaga as #1s, but I am not all fired up about it.
I am, however, super duper excited to watch Ole Miss and Wisky tie one on.
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Duke's resume w/ Ryan Kelly absolutely deserves a #1 seed
And I don't give 2 shits about NBA players on college teams, UCLA has multiple NBA players and they suck terribly
Duke didn't even win the ACC, and lost to Maryland in the ACC tournament.
WITB. duke with RK is a completely different team and one that certainly deserves their #2 seed (which coincidentally, is near a #1 seed).
Duke deserves a 2-seed. No disagreement there.
Yeah Duke is a 2 seed. When I said they have no business being around a 1 seed, I just meant that they shouldn't have been in the discussion. If they would have been a #1 seed it would have been giving them the seed and not at all merit based. You can't with a good conscience give Duke a #1 seed based on an injury and then not give Miami a #1 seed. People frequently point to the Florida Gulf Coast game as a reason why Miami didn't deserve a #1 seed, well Durand Scott and Garrius Adams missed that game. Despite the loss to the turtles Duke is a legit national championship candidate but their body of work isn't one of the top 4 in the country.
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I think the committee should have bumped us up to a 2-seed with the knowledge that Spradling is hurt now.
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I think the committee should have bumped us up to a 2-seed with the knowledge that Spradling is hurt now.
The problem is that he is still playing.
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I think the committee should have bumped us up to a 2-seed with the knowledge that Spradling is hurt now.
The problem is that he is still playing.
Alas, you are right, but his minutes have trended down since 2/25 at least.
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If Kstate would have gotten a 3 seed.... we would likely have been in the east with Indiana and Miami. Cause i think they were going to leave N Mexico as the 3 in the West. They could have had Marq playing Wiscy and us playing Butler. And then some people would be complaining that we have to be in same bracket with Butler again
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Hey dumbass Gonzaga has two first round draft picks at the 4 and the 5 and another coming off of their bench at the 5. You are talking in circles, we won't think less of you if you call it a day with this talking point.
Texas had three first round picks two years ago and didn't do squat in the tournament.
In the past neutral fans would get behind Gonzaga if they smelled an upset brewing now the fans will get behind Gonzaga's opponents if they smell an upset brewing. Gonzaga is used to being the Cinderella trying to knock off the giants. This year they will be one of the giants that the Cinderellas are trying to knock off. A lot of teams don't handle that adjustment very well-for further details see K-State football.
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There is no added pressure for a 1 seed. Everyone has one loss and they are out. The one seed is just a first week advantage. I don't buy "playing with nothing to lose" or the pressure of being a favorite when nobody wants to go home and the losing team is expecting to win
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who are gonzaga's three first round draft picks MIR is talking about? I guess i didn't realize they had that much talent.
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i have collected alot of data and crunched alot of numbers i a very powerful spreadsheet i made and have determined that gonzaga's tournament success is directly correlated with the wispiness of their mustaches
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who are gonzaga's three first round draft picks MIR is talking about? I guess i didn't realize they had that much talent.
kelly olynyk
jeff gueldner
julius michalik
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who are gonzaga's three first round draft picks MIR is talking about? I guess i didn't realize they had that much talent.
kelly olynyk
jeff gueldner
julius michalik
Lol
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I loved him back in the day, seeing this would be like a 4 year old seeing Santa dumpster diving for half eaten hot dogs. Hard to believe that Julius and hoi are the same age. Whatever happened to Loren Meyer?
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My WSJ blind bracket had Duke beating KU in the national championship, so I'm not disagreeing with the idea that Duke is a very dangerous team. I just don't think they deserved a 1-seed. As for Gonzaga, I just don't like any other teams in that region to reach the Final Four. All of them have major warts. I mean Ohio State has been playing well, but I could see Iowa State or New Mexico beating them easily. It's just a tough bracket to predict.
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i think we're all there, bmw.
fwiw, i have duke losing to indiana. and i'm an noted bracketologist.
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i think we're all there, bmw.
fwiw, i have duke losing to indiana. and i'm an noted bracketologist.
Duke might have the toughest road to the Final Four honestly. They would have to beat Michigan State before possibly matching up with Louisville. Would not want.
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i think we're all there, bmw.
fwiw, i have duke losing to indiana. and i'm an noted bracketologist.
OMG ME TOO
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Indiana's inability to win when slowed down by their opponent (see: Wisconsin) is what will doom them in the tournament. They're too one-dimensional. Same thing with Florida.
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Indiana and Florida are both insanely entertaining to watch this year. I really hope both go deep.
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My final four: Gonzaga, Louisville, Michigan, Indiana. All other answers are pud and incorrect. Michigan is going to whitewash KU.
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Indiana's inability to win when slowed down by their opponent (see: Wisconsin) is what will doom them in the tournament. They're too one-dimensional. Same thing with Florida.
I don't see any of Indiana's opponents slowing them down. 'Cuse may try, I guess.
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Most people who take the time to do the blind bracket knows enough about the good teams to make it not so blind
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we're going to win the national championship, dumbasses
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Indiana's inability to win when slowed down by their opponent (see: Wisconsin) is what will doom them in the tournament. They're too one-dimensional. Same thing with Florida.
I don't see any of Indiana's opponents slowing them down. 'Cuse may try, I guess.
It will be interesting to see of Boeheim is distracted by these recent allegations.
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Hi MIR, can you tell me what a blind bracket is?
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http://projects.wsj.com/blindfold-brackets-2013/
I watched championship week so the first 16 seed out of the gate was very easy for me therefore giving away the 1 seed. WSJ did a better job of making it harder to decipher the teams than they did last year though.
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Indiana's inability to win when slowed down by their opponent (see: Wisconsin) is what will doom them in the tournament. They're too one-dimensional. Same thing with Florida.
I have Indiana and Florida in my F4 :sdeek:
I like the fact that they have guards that can dribble and shoot.
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Welp.
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Good luck in the sweet 16...
EMAW every man a wildcat, WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
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Hah this thread did exist, funny.
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lolllllllllll
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Hah this thread did exist, funny.
Look who started the thread, dumbass.
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In 2014.......
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