Author Topic: K-State/Gonzaga rematch in Sweet Sixteen? (Read 13816 times)

PurpleSleezyE · « **Reply #75 on:** March 19, 2013, 02:59:17 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 19, 2013, 02:39:25 PM

Quote from: ChiCat on March 19, 2013, 02:11:07 PM
I don't like the belief that because a player was injured, you just ignore a large portion of their season. Injuries or not, resumes are what they are. If an injury completely boned you, you should've had more depth

his injury didn't bone them. they went 27-5 this season, all 4 regular season losses they had were without him. #1 seed indiana lost more games than they did (6). #1 KU seed lost 5 games (including 1 to TCU). the point is that without their mvp, duke still only lost 5 games. now they have him back. i'm basing my opinion on the quality of the team as it sits going into the tournament.

This. Duke with Ryan Kelly is a very dangerous team. Personally I like both Duke and Miami better than Gonzaga as #1s, but I am not all fired up about it.

I am, however, super duper excited to watch Ole Miss and Wisky tie one on.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #76 on:** March 19, 2013, 03:11:54 PM »

Quote from: OregonSmock on March 19, 2013, 02:04:24 PM

Quote from: pissclams on March 19, 2013, 01:37:28 PM
Quote from: OregonSmock on March 19, 2013, 01:31:36 PM
Quote from: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 19, 2013, 10:50:59 AM
Duke's resume w/ Ryan Kelly absolutely deserves a #1 seed

And I don't give 2 shits about NBA players on college teams, UCLA has multiple NBA players and they suck terribly

Duke didn't even win the ACC, and lost to Maryland in the ACC tournament.

WITB. duke with RK is a completely different team and one that certainly deserves their #2 seed (which coincidentally, is near a #1 seed).

Duke deserves a 2-seed. No disagreement there.

Yeah Duke is a 2 seed. When I said they have no business being around a 1 seed, I just meant that they shouldn't have been in the discussion. If they would have been a #1 seed it would have been giving them the seed and not at all merit based. You can't with a good conscience give Duke a #1 seed based on an injury and then not give Miami a #1 seed. People frequently point to the Florida Gulf Coast game as a reason why Miami didn't deserve a #1 seed, well Durand Scott and Garrius Adams missed that game. Despite the loss to the turtles Duke is a legit national championship candidate but their body of work isn't one of the top 4 in the country.

kougar24 · « **Reply #77 on:** March 19, 2013, 03:16:11 PM »

I think the committee should have bumped us up to a 2-seed with the knowledge that Spradling is hurt now.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #78 on:** March 19, 2013, 03:18:09 PM »

Quote from: kougar24 on March 19, 2013, 03:16:11 PM

I think the committee should have bumped us up to a 2-seed with the knowledge that Spradling is hurt now.

The problem is that he is still playing.

kougar24 · « **Reply #79 on:** March 19, 2013, 03:29:14 PM »

Quote from: Nuts Kicked on March 19, 2013, 03:18:09 PM

Quote from: kougar24 on March 19, 2013, 03:16:11 PM
I think the committee should have bumped us up to a 2-seed with the knowledge that Spradling is hurt now.

The problem is that he is still playing.

Alas, you are right, but his minutes have trended down since 2/25 at least.

Powercat Posse · « **Reply #80 on:** March 19, 2013, 07:25:37 PM »

If Kstate would have gotten a 3 seed.... we would likely have been in the east with Indiana and Miami. Cause i think they were going to leave N Mexico as the 3 in the West. They could have had Marq playing Wiscy and us playing Butler. And then some people would be complaining that we have to be in same bracket with Butler again

88wildcat · « **Reply #81 on:** March 19, 2013, 07:40:52 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on March 19, 2013, 10:30:38 AM

Hey dumbass Gonzaga has two first round draft picks at the 4 and the 5 and another coming off of their bench at the 5. You are talking in circles, we won't think less of you if you call it a day with this talking point.

Texas had three first round picks two years ago and didn't do squat in the tournament.

In the past neutral fans would get behind Gonzaga if they smelled an upset brewing now the fans will get behind Gonzaga's opponents if they smell an upset brewing. Gonzaga is used to being the Cinderella trying to knock off the giants. This year they will be one of the giants that the Cinderellas are trying to knock off. A lot of teams don't handle that adjustment very well-for further details see K-State football.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #82 on:** March 19, 2013, 08:11:27 PM »

There is no added pressure for a 1 seed. Everyone has one loss and they are out. The one seed is just a first week advantage. I don't buy "playing with nothing to lose" or the pressure of being a favorite when nobody wants to go home and the losing team is expecting to win

wetwillie · « **Reply #83 on:** March 19, 2013, 09:36:49 PM »

who are gonzaga's three first round draft picks MIR is talking about? I guess i didn't realize they had that much talent.

puniraptor · « **Reply #84 on:** March 19, 2013, 10:32:59 PM »

i have collected alot of data and crunched alot of numbers i a very powerful spreadsheet i made and have determined that gonzaga's tournament success is directly correlated with the wispiness of their mustaches

pissclams · « **Reply #85 on:** March 19, 2013, 10:50:41 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 19, 2013, 09:36:49 PM

who are gonzaga's three first round draft picks MIR is talking about? I guess i didn't realize they had that much talent.

kelly olynyk
jeff gueldner
julius michalik

chum1 · « **Reply #86 on:** March 19, 2013, 10:57:46 PM »

wetwillie · « **Reply #87 on:** March 19, 2013, 11:11:08 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 19, 2013, 10:50:41 PM

Quote from: wetwillie on March 19, 2013, 09:36:49 PM
who are gonzaga's three first round draft picks MIR is talking about? I guess i didn't realize they had that much talent.
kelly olynyk
jeff gueldner
julius michalik

Lol

MakeItRain · « **Reply #88 on:** March 19, 2013, 11:26:53 PM »

Quote from: chum1 on March 19, 2013, 10:57:46 PM

I loved him back in the day, seeing this would be like a 4 year old seeing Santa dumpster diving for half eaten hot dogs. Hard to believe that Julius and hoi are the same age. Whatever happened to Loren Meyer?

OregonSmock · « **Reply #89 on:** March 20, 2013, 11:25:52 AM »

My WSJ blind bracket had Duke beating KU in the national championship, so I'm not disagreeing with the idea that Duke is a very dangerous team. I just don't think they deserved a 1-seed. As for Gonzaga, I just don't like any other teams in that region to reach the Final Four. All of them have major warts. I mean Ohio State has been playing well, but I could see Iowa State or New Mexico beating them easily. It's just a tough bracket to predict.

pissclams · « **Reply #90 on:** March 20, 2013, 11:27:21 AM »

i think we're all there, bmw.

fwiw, i have duke losing to indiana. and i'm an noted bracketologist.

OregonSmock · « **Reply #91 on:** March 20, 2013, 11:29:20 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 20, 2013, 11:27:21 AM

i think we're all there, bmw.

fwiw, i have duke losing to indiana. and i'm an noted bracketologist.

Duke might have the toughest road to the Final Four honestly. They would have to beat Michigan State before possibly matching up with Louisville. Would not want.

kougar24 · « **Reply #92 on:** March 20, 2013, 02:45:25 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 20, 2013, 11:27:21 AM

i think we're all there, bmw.

fwiw, i have duke losing to indiana. and i'm an noted bracketologist.

OMG ME TOO

OregonSmock · « **Reply #93 on:** March 20, 2013, 03:13:24 PM »

Indiana's inability to win when slowed down by their opponent (see: Wisconsin) is what will doom them in the tournament. They're too one-dimensional. Same thing with Florida.

CNS · « **Reply #94 on:** March 20, 2013, 03:18:31 PM »

Indiana and Florida are both insanely entertaining to watch this year. I really hope both go deep.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #95 on:** March 20, 2013, 03:20:16 PM »

My final four: Gonzaga, Louisville, Michigan, Indiana. All other answers are pud and incorrect. Michigan is going to whitewash KU.

kougar24 · « **Reply #96 on:** March 20, 2013, 03:27:38 PM »

Quote from: OregonSmock on March 20, 2013, 03:13:24 PM

Indiana's inability to win when slowed down by their opponent (see: Wisconsin) is what will doom them in the tournament. They're too one-dimensional. Same thing with Florida.

I don't see any of Indiana's opponents slowing them down. 'Cuse may try, I guess.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #97 on:** March 20, 2013, 05:27:13 PM »

Most people who take the time to do the blind bracket knows enough about the good teams to make it not so blind

GoodForAnother · « **Reply #98 on:** March 20, 2013, 05:37:14 PM »

we're going to win the national championship, dumbasses

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #99 on:** March 20, 2013, 06:05:23 PM »

Quote from: kougar24 on March 20, 2013, 03:27:38 PM

Quote from: OregonSmock on March 20, 2013, 03:13:24 PM
Indiana's inability to win when slowed down by their opponent (see: Wisconsin) is what will doom them in the tournament. They're too one-dimensional. Same thing with Florida.

I don't see any of Indiana's opponents slowing them down. 'Cuse may try, I guess.

It will be interesting to see of Boeheim is distracted by these recent allegations.