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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kougar24 on March 16, 2013, 07:04:08 PM
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I'm so sick of this crap.
Awesome shooting Will.
Awesome defense Will.
Awesome passing Will.
Awesome ball handling Will.
Awesome attitude Will.
JESUS rough ridin' CHRIST.
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He literally hasn't done anything positive in the last two weeks (@OSU when the game was over doesn't count). Not one positive play. Although, he has made up for it with multiple turnovers per game, getting beaten like a rented mule on defense, and passing up every open look he gets (on the off chance he does take the WIDEFUCKINGOPENSHOT, he misses it badly). I'm honestly okay with sitting will and playing EMAPE to send a rough ridin' message. As much as I hate him, we need Will in the tourney.
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I'll explain what he does. He sucks.
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Irving is better than Spradling at rough ridin' EVERYTHING EXCEPT HAVING A LOCAL HELICOPTER DAD TO INTIMIDATE THE PROGRAM.
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Irving is better than Spradling at rough ridin' EVERYTHING EXCEPT HAVING A LOCAL HELICOPTER DAD TO INTIMIDATE THE PROGRAM.
Yeah, but unfortunately Angel & Marty can't play 40, so we have to have a third guard play significant minutes.
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Irving is better than Spradling at rough ridin' EVERYTHING EXCEPT HAVING A LOCAL HELICOPTER DAD TO INTIMIDATE THE PROGRAM.
Yeah, but unfortunately Angel & Marty can't play 40, so we have to have a third guard play significant minutes.
This. Sprads is a minute eater.
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Irving is better than Spradling at rough ridin' EVERYTHING EXCEPT HAVING A LOCAL HELICOPTER DAD TO INTIMIDATE THE PROGRAM.
Yeah, but unfortunately Angel & Marty can't play 40, so we have to have a third guard play significant minutes.
and orris still hasn't turned into josh gray
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Irving is better than Spradling at rough ridin' EVERYTHING EXCEPT HAVING A LOCAL HELICOPTER DAD TO INTIMIDATE THE PROGRAM.
Yeah, but unfortunately Angel & Marty can't play 40, so we have to have a third guard play significant minutes.
Starts:
Shannon's little bitch: 29
Much better player Irving: 3
Minutes:
Shannon's little bitch: 899
Much better player Irving: 627
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Irving is better than Spradling at rough ridin' EVERYTHING EXCEPT HAVING A LOCAL HELICOPTER DAD TO INTIMIDATE THE PROGRAM.
Yeah, but unfortunately Angel & Marty can't play 40, so we have to have a third guard play significant minutes.
Starts:
Shannon's little bitch: 29
Much better player Irving: 3
Minutes:
Shannon's little bitch: 899
Much better player Irving: 627
I agree with you, and I think that EMAPE should be playing over Will right now.
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Irving is better than Spradling at rough ridin' EVERYTHING EXCEPT HAVING A LOCAL HELICOPTER DAD TO INTIMIDATE THE PROGRAM.
Yeah, but unfortunately Angel & Marty can't play 40, so we have to have a third guard play significant minutes.
This. Sprads is a minute eater.
"Minute eaters" aren't supposed to start and play much more than their SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER SUBSTITUTES.
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He only has 1 year left. :dance:
Loved my favorite KU player Elijah Johnson shaming him off the court between the legs.
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SOMEONE EXPLAIN
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Could someone make a gif of the Gieco lizard shouting: Would someone tell me why Spradling gets so many minutes.
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Irving is better than Spradling at rough ridin' EVERYTHING EXCEPT HAVING A LOCAL HELICOPTER DAD TO INTIMIDATE THE PROGRAM.
Can someone explain a quick history of Sprads pops? Is he just loaded out the prostate with cash? Or just a soccer mom with webers number?
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A day in the life of Spracne:
8:00am Dad wakes him up for school
8:10am Eat wheaties
8:30am Take a shower. Thow away proactive bottle that keeps reappearing.
8:45am Kiss dad goodbye. Grab trapperkeeper and Fragglerock lunchbox.
9:00am-
2:30pm Classes
3:00pm Pretend to be a good ball player at practice.
6:00pm Dinner with the fam. Thank mom for ironing his undies.
7:00pm Devotional with dad from chapter John
8:00pm Put on big bird zip up onesie pj's
9:00pm Dream about being awesome at life
8:00am Repeat
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You forgot gameday Sprads: Piss down your leg on any open shot, be constantly one step behind the man you're guarding, do absolutely nothing, go to the bench with the appreciative applause of racist tuck fans.
A day in the life of Spracne:
8:00am Dad wakes him up for school
8:10am Eat wheaties
8:30am Take a shower. Thow away proactive bottle that keeps reappearing.
8:45am Kiss dad goodbye. Grab trapperkeeper and Fragglerock lunchbox.
9:00am-
2:30pm Classes
3:00pm Pretend to be a good ball player at practice.
6:00pm Dinner with the fam. Thank mom for ironing his undies.
7:00pm Devotional with dad from chapter John
8:00pm Put on big bird zip up onesie pj's
9:00pm Dream about being awesome at life
8:00am Repeat
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Thanks for the edit EMAWzified :thumbs:
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Spradling v. KU:
2-11 FG
5 assists
only 3 TOs!!! Good job Will!!!!!!!
not to mention getting worked by anyone and everyone he guarded in all 3 games.
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I enjoyed Elijah dribbling between Sprad's legs on his way to a nice runner in the lane.
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Somebody tell me why Spradling gets so many rough ridin' minutes
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Koug, U are way to pro-Tay and anti-Will ALL THE TIME
Thats why more people will value views like what FAN gives
I, much like FAN, understand what Will brings to this team. I also know what Tay brings
Will (post injury) has not been good. Not so bad i want Omari out there for him, but not good
But 13 games prior to his injury, Will shot over 60% eFG and shot over 44% from 3pt..... and you probably still thought he was worthless
FWIW... I want Tay to play more minutes than Will if he can't get healthy and make some shots to help this team. Any Cat fan will tell you that. Even stupid Bobby Knight should agree with that statement.
I love Tay. Not as much as you no doubt. But i dont despise Will either.
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When you are right, you are right. you don't waiver from something that you know is right, and Kougs is rough ridin' right.
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Tay played pretty bad tonight.
No offense, mocat
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Tay played pretty bad tonight.
No offense, mocat
yeah, he stunk it up
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If I was Irving I would sue for non fulfillment of full scholarship.
Imagine Irv with a consistent set of minutes. :love:
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When you are right, you are right. you don't waiver from something that you know is right, and Kougs is rough ridin' right.
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Will played 17 minutes, Tay played 31. Seems about right and this is what most have been asking for all season.
Tay was 1-7 from 3. Will was 0-2.
They both played terrible and the 2 spot was a detriment tonight; not one single player.
If Tay had played fewer minutes and put up much better numbers, this thread might have some more merit, but tonight its just dumb.
But if complaining (again) about Will makes you feel better, go for it I guess.
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It does make me feel a little better.
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Will played 17 minutes, Tay played 31. Seems about right and this is what most have been asking for all season.
Tay was 1-7 from 3. Will was 0-2.
They both played terrible and the 2 spot was a detriment tonight; not one single player.
If Tay had played fewer minutes and put up much better numbers, this thread might have some more merit, but tonight its just dumb.
But if complaining (again) about Will makes you feel better, go for it I guess.
Sure, shots weren't falling for Tay, but he was trying to make something happen offensively and basically telling oscar and his cowardly gameplan to go eff themselves.
Also, in a game when neither is playing well offensively, who is the better defender? (I can't even type that question without smirking.)
And 17 minutes is too much for Will still. Maybe 5. Just sub him in for breathers before each TV timeout. Let him hand out waters and high-fives the rest of the time. Surely he's not too passive to do that much?
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And 17 minutes is too much for Will still. Maybe 5. Just sub him in for breathers before each TV timeout. Let him hand out waters and high-fives the rest of the time. Surely he's not too passive to do that much?
Angel 34 minutes. Tay 31 minutes. Will 17 minutes. Tay played a stretch at the 3 spot as well when Rod rested.
Who else is going to play? And don't say Omari.
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Do we have any hope for Orris?
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FAN lets focus all our energy on the brackets for tomorrow.
By our energy I mostly mean yours so I can use your thoughts as my own.
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Do we have any hope for Orris?
Certainly not this season.
FAN lets focus all our energy on the brackets for tomorrow.
By our energy I mostly mean yours so I can use your thoughts as my own.
I'm all for this. I put no bearing on this game having impact on next weekend. I mean last night we took a pretty good 4/5 seed in OSU and handled them fine. People being upset about tonight I get, but people thinking this means we will lose the first round or have no shot at the Sweet 16 are just being dumb.
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And 17 minutes is too much for Will still. Maybe 5. Just sub him in for breathers before each TV timeout. Let him hand out waters and high-fives the rest of the time. Surely he's not too passive to do that much?
Angel 34 minutes. Tay 31 minutes. Will 17 minutes. Tay played a stretch at the 3 spot as well when Rod rested.
Who else is going to play? And don't say Omari.
Sure, Omari. Hell, give ol' Orris a shot...maybe he won't be a huge rough ridin' vagina at least.
Maybe The Animal has eligibility left. Or Currie's 13-year-old son.
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Do we have any hope for Orris?
Certainly not this season.
FAN lets focus all our energy on the brackets for tomorrow.
By our energy I mostly mean yours so I can use your thoughts as my own.
I'm all for this. I put no bearing on this game having impact on next weekend. I mean last night we took a pretty good 4/5 seed in OSU and handled them fine. People being upset about tonight I get, but people thinking this means we will lose the first round or have no shot at the Sweet 16 are just being dumb.
Sweet 16 at worst.
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Do we have any hope for Orris?
:lol:
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KU games are kind of irrelevant to these kind of discussions. Our entire program (fan base included) always panics and underperforms against KU. I don't even bother watching anymore. This is not something oscar is capable of fixing. We officially surrendered the instate rivalry when we hired him. And whatever. Just beat most of the other teams, accept our 2-3 losses to KU every year, and go about our lives.
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KU games are kind of irrelevant to these kind of discussions. Our entire program (fan base included) always panics and underperforms against KU. I don't even bother watching anymore. This is not something oscar is capable of fixing. We officially surrendered the instate rivalry when we hired him. And whatever. Just beat most of the other teams, accept our 2-3 losses to KU every year, and go about our lives.
Spradling's incompetence isn't relegated to KU games alone. Strawman.
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Maybe my intent wasn't clear. I was addressing arguments that Tay also didn't play well tonight.
I hate Spradling almost as much as I hate Marcus Smart. You know how we hate Voskuil and Paige and Heslip et al? Well, I hate Spradling like I hate the players he should be.
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Maybe my intent wasn't clear. I was addressing arguments that Tay also didn't play well tonight.
I hate Spradling almost as much as I hate Marcus Smart. You know how we hate Voskuil and Paige and Heslip et al? Well, I hate Spradling like I hate the players he should be.
Ah, okay. Apologies.
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Sprads is a warm body who is able to:
1) Eat minutes
2) Has 5 fouls to give
Which pretty much describes anybody with two feet and a pair of shoes so there must be something else that made him get picked to be on the team.
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'Eating minutes" implies that he is able to play without hurting us while he's out there.
SPOILER ALERT: he hurts us when he's out there.
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Well if I went out there and ate minutes I'd probably turn the ball over a shitload of times because I'm shorter and slower. So there's that.
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Congrats, beems
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gatdamn
btw can you get some of your squawk friends under control? they're really diluting the quality of your posts, friend.
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Will sucks
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gatdamn
btw can you get some of your squawk friends under control? they're really diluting the quality of your posts, friend.
You guys are the experts at PI'ing squawks, but I'll see what I can do.
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crap that's our best defender too
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HEY HE WAS INJURED, bad person!!
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HEY HE WAS INJURED, bad person!!
At least his acne has cleared up.
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HEY HE WAS INJURED, bad person!!
At least his acne has cleared up.
Not really.
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HEY HE WAS INJURED, bad person!!
At least his acne has cleared up.
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HEY HE WAS INJURED, bad person!!
At least his acne has cleared up.
Not really.
No, you must be thinking of Michael Orris.
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HEY HE WAS INJURED, bad person!!
At least his acne has cleared up.
The funniest thing about yesterday was when they had those going-out/coming-back from commercial shots of various players with trophies. Anytime they showed Will with the Big12 Champ trophy they did some effect on the shot to soften Will's face to hid the acne. It was pretty obvious with the change in brightness on the screen.
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I don't hate Will as much as everyone else seems too, but when he passes up open jump shots, I don't understand his role. He doesn't create, he doesn't dribble drive, he doesn't defend particularly well though his help D has always been good. He he isn't going to take/make open jumpshots he shouldn't be on the floor. Irving has shown a willingness to get into the lane when it's needed (shot clock running down) and he very rarely passes on an open 3. Like everyone else, I guess I just don't see what oscar/Frank saw.
No one played well last night, but this thread isn't really about that.
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I don't hate Will as much as everyone else seems too, but when he passes up open jump shots, I don't understand his role. He doesn't create, he doesn't dribble drive, he doesn't defend particularly well though his help D has always been good. He he isn't going to take/make open jumpshots he shouldn't be on the floor. Irving has shown a willingness to get into the lane when it's needed (shot clock running down) and he very rarely passes on an open 3. Like everyone else, I guess I just don't see what oscar/Frank saw.
No one played well last night, but this thread isn't really about that.
Maybe Will is just being used a bone to throw to the rural Kansas State fans.
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Welp, Weber just spent a minute and a half on the Border Patrol this morning talking about will’s importance to the team (his +/- when he’s in, his “great help defense”, him being “the most knowledgeable of the motion offense”, a “great passer”). He loves him. And has no shortage of excuses for why Will hasn’t played well at all. So onward and upward next year.
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Are people really talking smack about Elijah Johnson driving past Will Spradling?
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I hate Will, sure I do. However if you asked me "Hey mocat are you on #teamkickWillofftheteam or #teamhopeWillgetsbetter?" I would answer that I am on #teamhopeWillgetsbetter because I want every KSU cat to get better
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Are people really talking smack about Elijah Johnson driving past Will Spradling?
No. They are talking smack about Elijah Johnson dribbling between Spradling's legs and making him look like a total bitch on his way to an easy layup.
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I hate Will, sure I do. However if you asked me "Hey mocat are you on #teamkickWillofftheteam or #teamhopeWillgetsbetter?" I would answer that I am on #teamhopeWillgetsbetter because I want every KSU cat to get better
I wouldn't care that Will stayed on the team as long as the coaches could see his deficiencies and not start him over Irving. I'd rather just kick him off the team if that's never going to happen, though.
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I'd be fine with Spradling getting 5-10 minutes off the bench behind Irving, and actually shooting the ball when he's in (yes, that's right, I want Will to shoot more, since that's all he can supposedly do).
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We all love our players when they play well and help the team win. Some players you love even when they play badly and the team loses. Will is not one of those players.
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What Will Spradling Does.
1. provide ammo for fluff pieces written by kcstart
2. " " D. Scott
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Welp, Weber just spent a minute and a half on the Border Patrol this morning talking about will’s importance to the team (his +/- when he’s in, his “great help defense”, him being “the most knowledgeable of the motion offense”, a “great passer”). He loves him. And has no shortage of excuses for why Will hasn’t played well at all. So onward and upward next year.
I am admittedly not watching Spradling with a balanced eye but his help D is horrible - twice on Saturday he helped off of his man - once on pretty pud penetration and once to run halfway across the court to double one of KU's garbage 4s in the post. Both times KU quickly swung the ball to his unguarded man for a wide open 3 that they made.
The 'help' in the post is what gets me the most :curse:. He doesn't dig out the ball like Angel or Tay, it just creates a scramble to recover that ends up with open shooters.
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dnr thread but will likes to drive along to baseline and do a jump pass to the player on the wing, it works 1/8th of the time
that is what will does
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will spradling is the ultimate baller, very low bbiq in this thread
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Welp, Weber just spent a minute and a half on the Border Patrol this morning talking about will’s importance to the team (his +/- when he’s in, his “great help defense”, him being “the most knowledgeable of the motion offense”, a “great passer”). He loves him. And has no shortage of excuses for why Will hasn’t played well at all. So onward and upward next year.
I am admittedly not watching Spradling with a balanced eye but his help D is horrible - twice on Saturday he helped off of his man - once on pretty pud penetration and once to run halfway across the court to double one of KU's garbage 4s in the post. Both times KU quickly swung the ball to his unguarded man for a wide open 3 that they made.
The 'help' in the post is what gets me the most :curse:. He doesn't dig out the ball like Angel or Tay, it just creates a scramble to recover that ends up with open shooters.
BUT HE TAKES CHARGES!!!!!!!!!!!
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will spradling is the ultimate baller, very low bbiq in this thread
about time someone said it.
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will spradling is the ultimate baller, very low bbiq in this thread
about time someone said it.
You are all over the map, man.
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Welp, Weber just spent a minute and a half on the Border Patrol this morning talking about will’s importance to the team (his +/- when he’s in, his “great help defense”, him being “the most knowledgeable of the motion offense”, a “great passer”). He loves him. And has no shortage of excuses for why Will hasn’t played well at all. So onward and upward next year.
I totally expected him to trash him.
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will spradling is the ultimate baller, very low bbiq in this thread
Quoted for truth. Will Spradling is the Michael Jordan of white players who currently play for the Kansas State Wildcats.
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Welp, Weber just spent a minute and a half on the Border Patrol this morning talking about will’s importance to the team (his +/- when he’s in, his “great help defense”, him being “the most knowledgeable of the motion offense”, a “great passer”). He loves him. And has no shortage of excuses for why Will hasn’t played well at all. So onward and upward next year.
I totally expected him to trash him.
He makes more excuses for will than anyone else. Angel's been playing with one arm for about 2 weeks now. but if a kid on the team got me my job, I probably would too.
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Welp, Weber just spent a minute and a half on the Border Patrol this morning talking about will’s importance to the team (his +/- when he’s in, his “great help defense”, him being “the most knowledgeable of the motion offense”, a “great passer”). He loves him. And has no shortage of excuses for why Will hasn’t played well at all. So onward and upward next year.
I totally expected him to trash him.
A better coach would have trashed Will in the media a long time ago. Just look at what Bill did to EJ.
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What's been unsaid with all the fawning over Weber since January is that Frank knew this team needed just a little tweaking to get to the Final Four level. One tweak was getting the worthless POS Will out of town.
It's sad with all the co-champ celebrating to think about what this team could have been with a little more help.
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LOL WUT
nevermind... :clac:
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Welp, Weber just spent a minute and a half on the Border Patrol this morning talking about will’s importance to the team (his +/- when he’s in, his “great help defense”, him being “the most knowledgeable of the motion offense”, a “great passer”). He loves him. And has no shortage of excuses for why Will hasn’t played well at all. So onward and upward next year.
I totally expected him to trash him.
A better coach would have trashed Will in the media a long time ago. Just look at what Bill did to EJ.
ooo true