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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: nicname on January 22, 2013, 09:52:21 PM
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Cats are never in the game without him. Played like a grown man today.
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Best game this yr
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"his knee's in shape!"
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Just don't drive the baseline anymore. Played a lot better than he did against them last year.
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I love love LOVE Angel. You can really identify the :opcat: in our fanbase whenever people complain about him. In Angel We Trust.
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He played with an incredible amount of energy
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Can we make this the Angel and Shane stud thread or should Shane get his own?
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Deserves much more respect from our racist fanbase.
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Can we make this the Angel and Shane stud thread or should Shane get his own?
Shane earned his own tonight. He played outstanding.
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I thought I heard a angel/pullen comparo by the announcers tonight. :surprised:
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Yes. Angel was amazing.
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i know this is no surprise, but he's a very nice young man on campus as well.
:thumbs:
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Deserves much more respect from our racist fanbase.
If you made his skin white and replaced "Puerto Rico" with "McPherson" there would never be less than 3 "Steve Henson 2.0" references on wabash station at any given time.
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I'm not HBBIQ, but I see a lot of Jake and (gasp!) S. Collins in his game. Not necessarily in how he produces, but in how he simply wills his team at times. He is a treat to watch, I only hope the surrounding cast doesn't crumble around him in the next two seasons.
I also hope he doesn't bounce.
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I'm not HBBIQ, but I see a lot of Jake and (gasp!) S. Collins in his game. Not necessarily in how he produces, but in how he simply wills his team at times. He is a treat to watch, I only hope the surrounding cast doesn't crumble around him in the next two seasons.
I also hope he doesn't bounce.
Jake comparisons are somewhat fair because his game has similarities.
I loved the tear drop over Withey. Beautiful and amazing.
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I'd love to know why he stopped with the dribble penetration in the midway through the 2nd half. The horrid turnover didn't help his confidence getting inside.
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What Angel gives he taketh away. So many great moments tonight only a few WTFs. I'll take that from him every night. Also had at least 2 and-1s that werent called.
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He's rough ridin' got guts, unlike a lot of our team
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Armstrong was very close to a Holthus like racial slur. Called him a flea then immediately started to back out of those comments
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I'm not HBBIQ, but I see a lot of Jake and (gasp!) S. Collins in his game. Not necessarily in how he produces, but in how he simply wills his team at times. He is a treat to watch, I only hope the surrounding cast doesn't crumble around him in the next two seasons.
I also hope he doesn't bounce.
Jake comparisons are somewhat fair because his game has similarities.
I loved the tear drop over Withey. Beautiful and amazing.
I was in 4th row behind KU bench about 20 feet away from that tear drop play wearing my #teamangel shirt. It was quite a moment in my life.
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I think Angel is better than Pullen was as a sophomore and might well end up being the greatest career wildcat basketball player of all time.
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Yep... Rodriguez completely owned the game in that first half. He has improved a ton since last season.
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Angel is definitely coming into his own. He will only get better. :dance:
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tonight was the Angel that we want to see. He played with a TON of energy on defense and was a pest. He only committed that one silly foul on Withey.
Angel is now 30 asst/ 10 TO ratio in Big 12 play. Cant ask for anything better
The one thing i would like to see is Angel hitting 3s at a better clip. He is just 6 for his 24, and 12 for his last 48. Thats 25%. I dont expect him to hit 40% or anything, but he has the capability of hitting at a 35-37% clip. He needs to really work at getting right behind the line when he shoots his 3s (a lot of his 3pt shots are 2 or 3 feet behind arc and he misses a lot of them)
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He has improved a ton since last season.
not really, no.
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I think Angel is better than Pullen was as a sophomore and might well end up being the greatest career wildcat basketball player of all time.
Pullen had Frank motivating and guiding him. Angel has oscar Goose.
Angel's career won't eclipse Pullen's.
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He has improved a ton since last season.
not really, no.
beems only has seen him in KU games
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Agreed with Powercat Posse. Angel could easily end up as my favorite player of all time, but he's got to hit 3's.
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I'm not HBBIQ, but I see a lot of Jake and (gasp!) S. Collins in his game. Not necessarily in how he produces, but in how he simply wills his team at times. He is a treat to watch, I only hope the surrounding cast doesn't crumble around him in the next two seasons.
I also hope he doesn't bounce.
Jake comparisons are somewhat fair because his game has similarities.
I loved the tear drop over Withey. Beautiful and amazing.
the only Jake comparo I see is fearlessness
I think Angel is better than Pullen was as a sophomore and might well end up being the greatest career wildcat basketball player of all time.
don't do this, really unfair to Angel
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I'm not HBBIQ, but I see a lot of Jake and (gasp!) S. Collins in his game. Not necessarily in how he produces, but in how he simply wills his team at times. He is a treat to watch, I only hope the surrounding cast doesn't crumble around him in the next two seasons.
I also hope he doesn't bounce.
Jake comparisons are somewhat fair because his game has similarities.
I loved the tear drop over Withey. Beautiful and amazing.
I was in 4th row behind KU bench about 20 feet away from that tear drop play wearing my #teamangel shirt. It was quite a moment in my life.
Trim and I saw the shirt and tried to give you a :eye: from across the court from sec 17.
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i hope his mom comes to more games
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i hope his mom comes to more games
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I love love LOVE Angel. You can really identify the :opcat: in our fanbase whenever people complain about him. In Angel We Trust.
No, dumbass. People in the past have got upset about his silly mistakes and bad shooting. Last night however, he played like a man. I know goEMAW is #TeamAngel and so am I, but make your rough ridin' lay ups. He gets no pass, only Shane does. He's adorable.
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Angel doesn't make many silly mistakes and he's a good shooter. :dunno:
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He has improved a ton since last season.
not really, no.
Depends what you value.
Finishing at the rim and drawing fouls? No.
Creating/Assists/TOs? Yes, by a lot.
Shooting? About the same.
Defense? About the same, but getting better (fouling less).
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I love love LOVE Angel. You can really identify the :opcat: in our fanbase whenever people complain about him. In Angel We Trust.
No, dumbass. People in the past have got upset about his silly mistakes and bad shooting. Last night however, he played like a man. I know goEMAW is #TeamAngel and so am I, but make your rough ridin' he lay ups. He gets no pass, only Shane does. He's adorable.
Fanning, Jake had the same issue around the same time in his career.
He gets a pass as long as he is the boss that makes the offense fluid and his + outweigh his -.
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Angel doesn't make many silly mistakes and he's a good shooter. :dunno:
Nope. Wrong again, nuts kicked. Missing lay ups are silly mistakes and he misses a lot of 3's (bad shooter).
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I love love LOVE Angel. You can really identify the :opcat: in our fanbase whenever people complain about him. In Angel We Trust.
No, dumbass. People in the past have got upset about his silly mistakes and bad shooting. Last night however, he played like a man. I know goEMAW is #TeamAngel and so am I, but make your rough ridin' he lay ups. He gets no pass, only Shane does. He's adorable.
Fanning, Jake had the same issue around the same time in his career.
He gets a pass as long as he is the boss that makes the offense fluid and his + outweigh his -.
I love you, CNS. So I won't disagree.
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Thanks :cheers:
Also, I am right.
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Angel doesn't make many silly mistakes and he's a good shooter. :dunno:
Nope. Wrong again, nuts kicked. Missing lay ups are silly mistakes and he misses a lot of 3's (bad shooter).
Angel draws fouls, and is better at the bucket than any other player on the team. He is also the player I would want shooting a 3 with the game on the line.
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McGruder is who I want shooting a 3 with the game on the line. Any other answer is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and forced.
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McGruder is who I want shooting a 3 with the game on the line. Any other answer is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and forced.
Nope. He's a nice second option, but I trust Angel more. I don't even want Will on the floor.
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McGruder is who I want shooting a 3 with the game on the line. Any other answer is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and forced.
Nope. He's a nice second option, but I trust Angel more. I don't even want Will on the floor.
Don't be silly, of course we want Rod shooting that three. Although, I would be fine with Shane too after the last few games. Rod is stone cold.
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I'd take a game winner from Angel or Rod, and with the way he's shooting Shane.
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I'd take a game winner from Angel or Rod, and with the way he's shooting Shane.
I wouldn't have a problem at all with Rod taking the shot, but at the end of the game, I like the best player with the ball, rather than the best shooter. I love Rod, but I think Angel is quickly solidifying himself as our best player.
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You're really outing yourself as a dumbass today, nuts kicked. T's & P's.
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You're really outing yourself as a dumbass today, nuts kicked. T's & P's.
If you can't see how bad this team is when Angel is not on the floor, then I just don't know what to tell you. Our best player is Puerto Rican. Deal with it, racist.
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You're really outing yourself as a dumbass today, nuts kicked. T's & P's.
If you can't see how bad this team is when Angel is not on the floor, then I just don't know what to tell you. Our best player is Puerto Rican. Deal with it, racist.
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You're really outing yourself as a dumbass today, nuts kicked. T's & P's.
If you can't see how bad this team is when Angel is not on the floor, then I just don't know what to tell you. Our best player is Puerto Rican. Deal with it, racist.
Our best player is black, dumbass, and I love it. Again, I love Angel, but this team will be completely lost without McGruder next year, dumbass. Dumbass!
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You're really outing yourself as a dumbass today, nuts kicked. T's & P's.
If you can't see how bad this team is when Angel is not on the floor, then I just don't know what to tell you. Our best player is Puerto Rican. Deal with it, racist.
Our best player is black, dumbass, and I love it. Again, I love Angel, but this team will be completely lost without McGruder next year, dumbass. Dumbass!
They will make the tournament next year.
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You're really outing yourself as a dumbass today, nuts kicked. T's & P's.
If you can't see how bad this team is when Angel is not on the floor, then I just don't know what to tell you. Our best player is Puerto Rican. Deal with it, racist.
Our best player is black, dumbass, and I love it. Again, I love Angel, but this team will be completely lost without McGruder next year, dumbass. Dumbass!
Three "Dumbass"es! That makes YOU automatically the dumbass, dumbass Nuts Kicked with your dumb ass.
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You're really outing yourself as a dumbass today, nuts kicked. T's & P's.
If you can't see how bad this team is when Angel is not on the floor, then I just don't know what to tell you. Our best player is Puerto Rican. Deal with it, racist.
Our best player is black, dumbass, and I love it. Again, I love Angel, but this team will be completely lost without McGruder next year, dumbass. Dumbass!
They will make the tournament next year.
extremely low standard. Get out of the Wooly mindset.
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You're really outing yourself as a dumbass today, nuts kicked. T's & P's.
If you can't see how bad this team is when Angel is not on the floor, then I just don't know what to tell you. Our best player is Puerto Rican. Deal with it, racist.
Our best player is black, dumbass, and I love it. Again, I love Angel, but this team will be completely lost without McGruder next year, dumbass. Dumbass!
They will make the tournament next year.
They will make a further run this year. See where I'm getting at?
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You're really outing yourself as a dumbass today, nuts kicked. T's & P's.
If you can't see how bad this team is when Angel is not on the floor, then I just don't know what to tell you. Our best player is Puerto Rican. Deal with it, racist.
Our best player is black, dumbass, and I love it. Again, I love Angel, but this team will be completely lost without McGruder next year, dumbass. Dumbass!
They will make the tournament next year.
extremely low standard. Get out of the Wooly mindset.
They would not make the tournament this year without Angel.
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You're really outing yourself as a dumbass today, nuts kicked. T's & P's.
If you can't see how bad this team is when Angel is not on the floor, then I just don't know what to tell you. Our best player is Puerto Rican. Deal with it, racist.
Our best player is black, dumbass, and I love it. Again, I love Angel, but this team will be completely lost without McGruder next year, dumbass. Dumbass!
Three "Dumbass"es! That makes YOU automatically the dumbass, dumbass Nuts Kicked with your dumb ass.
Sabi, don't be a dumbass. Dumbass!
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I am not convinced that we make the tourney next yr. Not without some surprisingly good play from a new guy or two.
Losing JO, Rod, and Tay will be disastrous leaving Gip with Diaz as his only sub. Yes we will have Shane and Angel, and I do think Angel is going to be a fine primary option, but the supporting cast is thin at very best.
If some of the recruits don't make an immediate impact, we will have some substantial growing pains.
Also, if you hate Will this year, just wait until next yr.
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Also, if you hate Will this year, just wait until next yr.
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You're really outing yourself as a dumbass today, nuts kicked. T's & P's.
If you can't see how bad this team is when Angel is not on the floor, then I just don't know what to tell you. Our best player is Puerto Rican. Deal with it, racist.
Our best player is black, dumbass, and I love it. Again, I love Angel, but this team will be completely lost without McGruder next year, dumbass. Dumbass!
Three "Dumbass"es! That makes YOU automatically the dumbass, dumbass Nuts Kicked with your dumb ass.
Sabi, don't be a dumbass. Dumbass!
;)
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I am not convinced that we make the tourney next yr. Not without some surprisingly good play from a new guy or two.
Losing JO, Rod, and Tay will be disastrous leaving Gip with Diaz as his only sub. Yes we will have Shane and Angel, and I do think Angel is going to be a fine primary option, but the supporting cast is thin at very best.
If some of the recruits don't make an immediate impact, we will have some substantial growing pains.
Also, if you hate Will this year, just wait until next yr.
I think Gip has shown a lot of improvement over last year, and I'm actually pretty excited to see what he looks like next year. I'm also not quite ready to give up on Diaz, who has the raw skillset to be a pretty good player. I agree that we really need to recruit a guard who can make an immediate impact. Also, there is no way I could possibly hate Will more than I do right now, regardless of what happens next year. There just isn't enough hate inside of me.
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Will is going to be more of a main option next year with out rodney. Just wait. You will hate him more.
Also, I love Gip and his improvement is fantastic, but even if he makes an equal jump again next year, he will still be a 5 that has the height of a 4 and no jumping ability. He is always going to be the big guy that has to create space for himself. Unless you have other pieces around that guy, it is hard to make that work at the level you need it to in order to win a bunch of games. Also, that type of player is prone to foul troubs and Diaz is our back up.
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Will is going to be more of a main option next year with out rodney. Just wait. You will hate him more.
Not possible.
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Just like last year, I wish our offense was entirely ball screens for Angel. It would be an absolute joy to watch.
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He has improved a ton since last season.
not really, no.
Depends what you value.
Finishing at the rim and drawing fouls? No.
Creating/Assists/TOs? Yes, by a lot.
Shooting? About the same.
Defense? About the same, but getting better (fouling less).
I think he's better at all of the things you listed. His FTr is way down but I think that's because he isn't asked to get to the rim as much as he was last season, also one of the reasons that his TOr is better.
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I think he's better at all of the things you listed. His FTr is way down but I think that's because he isn't asked to get to the rim as much as he was last season, also one of the reasons that his TOr is better.
Good point.
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610 really talked him up today. They tried to compare him to the next Tyshawn Taylor in the fact that he doesn't get rattled in big games.
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Quit rough ridin' up my beautiful thread you rough ridin' pussies or I will punch you in your rough ridin' face when I see you.
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Quit rough ridin' up my beautiful thread you rough ridin' pussies or I will punch you in your rough ridin' face when I see you.
I'll see you Friday, bring it, dumbass. :crossfingers:
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I am not convinced that we make the tourney next yr. Not without some surprisingly good play from a new guy or two.
Losing JO, Rod, and Tay will be disastrous leaving Gip with Diaz as his only sub. Yes we will have Shane and Angel, and I do think Angel is going to be a fine primary option, but the supporting cast is thin at very best.
If some of the recruits don't make an immediate impact, we will have some substantial growing pains.
Also, if you hate Will this year, just wait until next yr.
Foster will make an immediate impact. I just hope that Weber has the balls to start him over Will.
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Will Foster do the little things and be a coach on the floor?
Yep, that's right. ... this ship is will's to crash into whatever rocks he so chooses.
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Will Foster do the little things and be a coach on the floor?
Yep, that's right. ... this ship is will's to crash into whatever rocks he so chooses.
Weber is the captain of the ship. If he chooses to put Will behind the wheel, it's still Weber's fault when the ship is on the ocean floor. We will have a roster next year that should be a tournament team.
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I don't see the scoring options to be one NK. Next year, unless frosh explode, we will be a grind it out team or we will be a small ball three live/die team.
Consistency will be an issue.
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I'm less concerned about next year than I was prior to the season. We are relying on JHR less than I expected, while Shane and Nino have give us more. I think Foster can have an impact on the scoring even if he doesn't take Will's spot. He will get Irvings minutes and score much more than Irving with those. Similar to how Pullen is was the third guard, but the high scoring guard and also the third leading scorer as a freshman. I think we're good if: Angel is Angel. Southwells emergence is a trend, not an anomaly. We get decent development from our bigs. Foster is able to give an instant scoring boost.
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I'm less concerned about next year than I was prior to the season. We are relying on JHR less than I expected, while Shane and Nino have give us more. I think Foster can have an impact on the scoring even if he doesn't take Will's spot. He will get Irvings minutes and score much more than Irving with those. Similar to how Pullen is was the third guard, but the high scoring guard and also the third leading scorer as a freshman. I think we're good if: Angel is Angel. Southwells emergence is a trend, not an anomaly. We get decent development from our bigs. Foster is able to give an instant scoring boost.
Good post. We should have an 08/09 season at worst.
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Nino has no showed since OSU. We still rely on JO a lot to have a non gip big in the game without putting a target on the paint for the other team.
I am not sold on shane and angel getting us there themselves.
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Angel, Foster, Shane, Nino, Gip
Not a terrible lineup, especially with DJamer splitting minutes with Gip. Will probably finish 4th/5th in the Big 12.
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art makes everyone better, they'll be fine as long he's there.