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Nope. Not even 1.
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Don't they have some guy on defense that's supposed to be pretty good? He might be able to ride the bench here. :dunno:
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Can't even name one player on that "team".
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The phog butthurt over the (correct) off pi call is amazing though.
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Sims?
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Sims?
Maybe 3rd string but he is drunk all the time.
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Sims?
Yea, would take Sims... everyone else can GTFOOMF
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Pierson's decent.
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I could maybe be talked into Bourbon (lol) or Opurem as a situational big back
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Dayne Christ could do the laundry and carry the Gatorade around maybe?
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not at the positions weiss has them playing at, no. if you let a competent coach align their skills to a place on the field where they could contribute, then i could see as many as four, maybe five, making our two deep.
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If Simms would go to rehab, maybe a walkon
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Their overall trashy demeanor and lack of class would really hurt our team chemistry. Even if they had a player good enough, which they don't, I wouldn't want him.
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their olineman thats projected to be a second round pick, he might make our two deep
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their olineman thats projected to be a second round pick, he might make our two deep
I call BS on this... all our 3rd strings will be 1st round picks
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their olineman thats projected to be a second round pick, he might make our two deep
I call BS on this... all our 3rd strings will be 1st round picks
Cornelius isn't 100% maybe he could rotate with him a little.
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no idea what his name is but they have a safety that could play some special teams if a couple guys got hurt
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their olineman thats projected to be a second round pick, he might make our two deep
LOL, Zlatnik got benched for a Freshman if I am not mistaken.
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Duane Christ and Dayne Zlatnik wouldn't make the cut for the KSU Cat football team based on the "adorableness"criteria alone.
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I think one or two could be a future Neek.
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I think one or two could be a future Neek.
Dude, a good Neek isn't made, he's born.
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I think one or two could be a future Neek.
Dude, a good Neek isn't made, he's born.
he's truely... unique.
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Bump for 2013.
Answer still no.
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Another KU thread?
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Another KU thread?
:flush:
:facepalm: It's not a new thread beems.
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how is the squad looking this year, beems? gonna finally get over "the conference hump?"
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how is the squad looking this year, beems? gonna finally get over "the conference hump?"
Lots of question marks, but if the jucos can adjust quickly to the D-1 level, KU might be decent next year. We've got quite a few playmakers on offense.
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how is the squad looking this year, beems? gonna finally get over "the conference hump?"
"Lots of question marks, but if the jucos can adjust quickly to the D-1 level, KSU might be decent next year. We've got quite a few playmakers on offense." - Ron Prince
sorry bro
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K-State has lots of question marks next year as well, especially on defense. You guys might be in for a rude awakening next season.
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K-State has lots of question marks next year as well, especially on defense. You guys might be in for a rude awakening next season.
Big difference between our questions marks. We have :bill: to turn the ? to !
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K-State has lots of question marks next year as well, especially on defense. You guys might be in for a rude awakening next season.
Big difference between our questions marks. We have :bill: to turn the ? to !
You mean the same coach who followed up the '03 Big 12 title with back-to-back losing seasons?
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K-State has lots of question marks next year as well, especially on defense. You guys might be in for a rude awakening next season.
Big difference between our questions marks. We have :bill: to turn the ? to !
You mean the same coach who followed up the '03 Big 12 title with back-to-back losing seasons?
Yea :ksu: CATS!
You think it will happen again? Or do you think he learned? I think we have better prospects at QB.
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Your defense is going to be way worse next year, and Sams can't throw. Sounds like a recipe for success?
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sams can throw better than the guy who lit you up last year. :dunno:
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sams can throw better than the guy who lit you up last year. :dunno:
:confused:
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Your defense is going to be way worse next year, and Sams can't throw. Sounds like a recipe for success?
Huh? I thought he threw pretty damn good at Spring Game.
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Your defense is going to be way worse next year, and Sams can't throw. Sounds like a recipe for success?
I'll give the defense could be extremely problematic. But Sams can't throw? Where did you get your insider info?
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Your defense is going to be way worse next year, and Sams can't throw. Sounds like a recipe for success?
Link?
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quoted 4 times=win
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Daniel Sams said that he can throw and I trust him more than I trust anyone.
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Sams doesn't understand the offense yet, and he's got a flat trajectory on his passes. I have my doubts whether or not he can play QB at this level. Waters will probably be the starter anyways. All I'm saying is that K-State has quite a few question marks next year as well.
K-State will most likely have the better team again next year, but I do think that KU is closing the gap a little bit. Heaps was the #1 QB in his recruiting class, and he'll be going into next year with over a year of experience within KU's system. Word on the street is that Heaps would have started last year if he had been eligible. Then you've got Darius Miller teaming up with Sims and Pierson again on offense, along with a 4-star, national top 50 recruit in 2010 (McCay). Throw in the #1 overall juco recruit on defense (Combs) and some other studs, and you're damn right I'm excited about KU football moving forward.
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Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.
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Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.
Teams will stack the box if K-State can't throw. Who are your threats at the receiver position to keep defenses honest? Lockett?
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Sams doesn't understand the offense yet, and he's got a flat trajectory on his passes. I have my doubts whether or not he can play QB at this level. Waters will probably be the starter anyways. All I'm saying is that K-State has quite a few question marks next year as well.
K-State will most likely have the better team again next year, but I do think that KU is closing the gap a little bit. Heaps was the #1 QB in his recruiting class, and he'll be going into next year with over a year of experience within KU's system. Word on the street is that Heaps would have started last year if he had been eligible. Then you've got Darius Miller teaming up with Sims and Pierson again on offense, along with a 4-star, national top 50 recruit in 2010 (McCay). Throw in the #1 overall juco recruit on defense (Combs) and some other studs, and you're damn right I'm excited about KU football moving forward.
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Of course Heaps would have started last year. Did you see who you trotted out there?
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Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.
This.
Hell we beat texas in '10 and we threw the ball a total of like 4 times.
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Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.
Teams will stack the box if K-State can't throw. Who are your threats at the receiver position to keep defenses honest? Lockett?
http://youtu.be/syExzFsTAb0 (http://youtu.be/syExzFsTAb0)
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So, according to the consensus here at goEMAW, K-State football is on cruise control? 10+ win seasons and back-to-back-to-back Big 12 titles are the norm now?
Just trying to get a sense for what we're dealing with here.
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Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.
Teams will stack the box if K-State can't throw. Who are your threats at the receiver position to keep defenses honest? Lockett?
The reason you don't believe SAMS can throw, is cause he never had to last year. You're kidding yourself though. He's got a killer arm and Snyder didn't want to give away any film in mop up duty. QB is the least of my worries. We can be this seasons version of WV last year, but with a little better D. Also, WR is not a worry of mine either.
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Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.
Teams will stack the box if K-State can't throw. Who are your threats at the receiver position to keep defenses honest? Lockett?
The reason you don't believe SAMS can throw, is cause he never had to last year. You're kidding yourself though. He's got a killer arm and Snyder didn't want to give away any film in mop up duty. QB is the least of my worries. We can be this seasons version of WV last year, but with a little better D. Also, WR is also not a worry of mine.
Snyder has said publicly that Sams has had a tough time understanding the offense (similar to Bishop). He's more of an athlete right now than a QB. I've heard Waters will probably be the starter anyway.
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:lol:
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I never expected these racial stereotypes to come from Beems. I'm disappointed. :*(
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Snyder has said publicly that Sams has had a tough time understanding the offense (similar to Bishop). He's more of an athlete right now than a QB. I've heard Waters will probably be the starter anyway.
link?
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Snyder has said publicly that Sams has had a tough time understanding the offense (similar to Bishop). He's more of an athlete right now than a QB. I've heard Waters will probably be the starter anyway.
link?
Heard it on 810 sports radio with BITB a few weeks ago. BITB said that Snyder told some alums at a catbacker event (or whatever it's called) that Sams was an incredible athlete and had a great arm, but his grasp of the offense is coming along a little slower than Waters. Then there's this from cjonline:
http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-04-11/quarterback-battle-under-way-k-state (http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-04-11/quarterback-battle-under-way-k-state)
In simplistic terms, Sams is regarded as the better runner and Waters the better passer, leading Iowa Western to a national championship when he was the NJCAA offensive player of the year, passing for 3,501 yards and 39 touchdowns with a 73-percent completion rate.
“Jake is a very bright young guy and picks things up quickly,” Snyder said. “He has spent the study time and asks questions.
“His learning curve has gone like that,” Snyder said, pointing upward. “There's so much to learn and we have such a broad package and he's really made some headway. He hit a stone wall in our scrimmage (Wednesday) because that was really his first time to do that, but he's made us very aware of the fact he's done his homework.”
It's not even an intelligence thing when it comes to the offense... it's more of just an instinctive QB mentality to make quick decisions and anticipate the receiver's routes. According to Stan Weber, Waters is a little quicker with his release and his anticipation of routes.
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bill has said that about every white qb since the dawn of man, beems.
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Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.
Teams will stack the box if K-State can't throw. Who are your threats at the receiver position to keep defenses honest? Lockett?
This kid: http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/deante_burton_810990.html is better than the McCay transfer, just FYI.
Plus, we actually have a serviceable OL in front of our signal caller. Your skill position kids basically become next to worthless when your guys in the trenches are pathetic losers.
HTH
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So, according to the consensus here at goEMAW, K-State football is on cruise control? 10+ win seasons and back-to-back-to-back Big 12 titles are the norm now?
Just trying to get a sense for what we're dealing with here.
No. It's that the roster at ku is just a joke vis-a-vis the one in Manhattan.
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Sams doesn't understand the offense yet, and he's got a flat trajectory on his passes. I have my doubts whether or not he can play QB at this level. Waters will probably be the starter anyways. All I'm saying is that K-State has quite a few question marks next year as well.
K-State will most likely have the better team again next year, but I do think that KU is closing the gap a little bit. Heaps was the #1 QB in his recruiting class, and he'll be going into next year with over a year of experience within KU's system. Word on the street is that Heaps would have started last year if he had been eligible. Then you've got Darius Miller teaming up with Sims and Pierson again on offense, along with a 4-star, national top 50 recruit in 2010 (McCay). Throw in the #1 overall juco recruit on defense (Combs) and some other studs, and you're damn right I'm excited about KU football moving forward.
good post beems, you guys will be better for sure. but i dont think heaps is the answer, wasnt crist a top rated qb out of high school?
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I never expected these racial stereotypes to come from Beems. I'm disappointed. :*(
Right? You would think after living on the west coast and in Lawrence (basically a west coast city stuck in the midwest) he would think more progressively than this.
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Sams doesn't understand the offense yet, and he's got a flat trajectory on his passes. I have my doubts whether or not he can play QB at this level. Waters will probably be the starter anyways. All I'm saying is that K-State has quite a few question marks next year as well.
K-State will most likely have the better team again next year, but I do think that KU is closing the gap a little bit. Heaps was the #1 QB in his recruiting class, and he'll be going into next year with over a year of experience within KU's system. Word on the street is that Heaps would have started last year if he had been eligible. Then you've got Darius Miller teaming up with Sims and Pierson again on offense, along with a 4-star, national top 50 recruit in 2010 (McCay). Throw in the #1 overall juco recruit on defense (Combs) and some other studs, and you're damn right I'm excited about KU football moving forward.
"but I do think KU is closing the gap a little bit"?? 59-7 59-21 56-16 last three years.. How could they not close it some??? :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
:billdance: (ftp://:billdance:)
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Heaps is going to explode onto the scene
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It's a mystery. If Chaz can integrate the juco's into the roster, ku will look a lot different this year. Someone help me out, what % of juco's that LHCBS recruits get significant playing time?
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Remember when Fescoe said, "With the addition of Crist, the Jayhawks have the best QB in the Big 12 now!" :lol:
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Heaps is going to explode onto the scene
You'd think Beems wouldn't use the talking point of "he was the best ranked QB coming out of hs" after what happened with Crist.
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ku isn't going to be worse than they were last year and have some talent in their backfield
unfortunately for them, weis isn't the answer and will suffer from the same problems that turner gill did. neither can coach.
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Will the wholesale sell out to recruiting JUCos as their only hope to be competitive work?
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Will the wholesale sell out to recruiting JUCos as their only hope to be competitive work?
Hey, Ron Prince tried that, right?
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Will the wholesale sell out to recruiting JUCos as their only hope to be competitive work?
Hey, Ron Prince tried that, right?
Pretty sure LHC Bill Snyder started it.
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Will the wholesale sell out to recruiting JUCos as their only hope to be competitive work?
Hey, Ron Prince tried that, right?
Pretty sure LHC Bill Snyder started it.
Never so many in a single class. Believe me, we went over and over that when Ron did it, and I was one the first ones in the front of the line calling Ron a rough ridin' dumb ass for it.
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Weis has five commitments in the '14 recruiting class, and none of them are jucos. KU loaded up last year because we need immediate help at several key positions, and jucos are usually more ready to contribute right away than high school prospects.
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one of these juco kids is going to murder charlie weis (lesbian), and then what for ku? will they be able to maintain the success they've had that's led them to have an overall edge in wins/losses over their cross state non-rival k-state cats? only time will tell, bros
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Weis has five commitments in the '14 recruiting class, and none of them are jucos. KU loaded up last year because we need immediate help at several key positions, and jucos are usually more ready to contribute right away than high school prospects.
Link please? This really hasn't proven to be the case for as long as we've been bringing in a a half dozen juco kids per year...
Only Weis and Prince have been dumb enough to bring in more than a dozen in the same class. Sets a program back 2-3 years easily.
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Weis has five commitments in the '14 recruiting class, and none of them are jucos. KU loaded up last year because we need immediate help at several key positions, and jucos are usually more ready to contribute right away than high school prospects.
What? Are you calling those great classes that Gill recruited garbage. I thought they were so much better than Synder's. :surprised:
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ku isn't going to be worse than they were last year and have some talent in their backfield
unfortunately for them, weis isn't the answer and will suffer from the same problems that turner gill did. neither can coach.
:curse: Turner didn't get a fair shake. He inherited a mess and didn't get enough time to fix it.
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Are we really going to have a debate about whether or not true freshmen are more ready to contribute than juco prospects? Some of you guys are simply incapable of having an honest discussion with a KU fan.
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i think jucos are more ready. like jake waters, juco qb of the year. stud. starting qb spiral delivery system.com. +3,000 yards this season easily.
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Are we really going to have a debate about whether or not true freshmen are more ready to contribute than juco prospects? Some of you guys are simply incapable of having an honest discussion with a KU fan.
Jadeveon Clowney is one of many true freshman that have contributed significantly to their team. Hell, Travis Britz had an impact as a freshman this last year for the q@tz. The impact JUCO is about as common as the impact freshman id say/
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Are we really going to have a debate about whether or not true freshmen are more ready to contribute than juco prospects? Some of you guys are simply incapable of having an honest discussion with a KU fan.
It's an honest question. The truth is... some are, while it's certainly hasn't proven to be the rule historically.
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It is pretty hard to recruit football players to Lawrence, KS. I get that much. Seems like Weis is getting desperate though.
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The quick, brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
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The quick, brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
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Are we really going to have a debate about whether or not true freshmen are more ready to contribute than juco prospects? Some of you guys are simply incapable of having an honest discussion with a KU fan.
lol what? it went from 2012 to 2013 not 2012 to 2014
( Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012/13 edition )
go home beems, you're drunk
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The quick, brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
Arguably one of the worst tapouts in bbs'ing history. Congrats, I suppose.
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Nightmare Scenarios for Every BCS Team
By
Alex Callos
(Featured Columnist) on July 9, 2013
Kansas Jayhawks
Nightmare Scenario: Finishing worse than 2012 and losing every game
Kansas was one of the worst teams in the country last year, only managing to win one game.
This year, head coach Charlie Weis could only do worse if his team does not win a single game, and while that is not likely, it certainly is not out of the question as the 2013 season approaches.
The season opener against South Dakota should be the one the Jayhawks get. After that, the schedule features 11 games against bowl-eligible teams from last season.
Otherwise, Weis may be out the door before the season is over. :lol: