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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2013, 02:10:50 PM »
how is the squad looking this year, beems?  gonna finally get over "the conference hump?"

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2013, 02:12:32 PM »
how is the squad looking this year, beems?  gonna finally get over "the conference hump?"


Lots of question marks, but if the jucos can adjust quickly to the D-1 level, KU might be decent next year.  We've got quite a few playmakers on offense.

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2013, 02:13:33 PM »
how is the squad looking this year, beems?  gonna finally get over "the conference hump?"


"Lots of question marks, but if the jucos can adjust quickly to the D-1 level, KSU might be decent next year.  We've got quite a few playmakers on offense." - Ron Prince

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2013, 02:17:12 PM »
K-State has lots of question marks next year as well, especially on defense.  You guys might be in for a rude awakening next season.

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2013, 02:19:28 PM »
K-State has lots of question marks next year as well, especially on defense.  You guys might be in for a rude awakening next season.

Big difference between our questions marks.  We have  :bill:  to turn the ? to !
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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2013, 02:20:54 PM »
K-State has lots of question marks next year as well, especially on defense.  You guys might be in for a rude awakening next season.

Big difference between our questions marks.  We have  :bill:  to turn the ? to !


You mean the same coach who followed up the '03 Big 12 title with back-to-back losing seasons?

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2013, 02:22:29 PM »
K-State has lots of question marks next year as well, especially on defense.  You guys might be in for a rude awakening next season.

Big difference between our questions marks.  We have  :bill:  to turn the ? to !


You mean the same coach who followed up the '03 Big 12 title with back-to-back losing seasons?

Yea  :ksu: CATS!

You think it will happen again?  Or do you think he learned?  I think we have better prospects at QB.
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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2013, 02:30:17 PM »
Your defense is going to be way worse next year, and Sams can't throw.  Sounds like a recipe for success? 

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2013, 02:31:35 PM »
sams can throw better than the guy who lit you up last year.   :dunno:

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2013, 02:33:10 PM »
sams can throw better than the guy who lit you up last year.   :dunno:


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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2013, 02:33:19 PM »
Your defense is going to be way worse next year, and Sams can't throw.  Sounds like a recipe for success?

Huh?  I thought he threw pretty damn good at Spring Game. 
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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2013, 02:34:42 PM »
Your defense is going to be way worse next year, and Sams can't throw.  Sounds like a recipe for success?

I'll give the defense could be extremely problematic.  But Sams can't throw?  Where did you get your insider info? 
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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2013, 02:35:19 PM »
Your defense is going to be way worse next year, and Sams can't throw.  Sounds like a recipe for success?
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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2013, 02:37:16 PM »
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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2013, 02:45:28 PM »
Daniel Sams said that he can throw and I trust him more than I trust anyone.

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2013, 02:46:23 PM »
Sams doesn't understand the offense yet, and he's got a flat trajectory on his passes.  I have my doubts whether or not he can play QB at this level.  Waters will probably be the starter anyways.  All I'm saying is that K-State has quite a few question marks next year as well. 

K-State will most likely have the better team again next year, but I do think that KU is closing the gap a little bit.  Heaps was the #1 QB in his recruiting class, and he'll be going into next year with over a year of experience within KU's system.  Word on the street is that Heaps would have started last year if he had been eligible.  Then you've got Darius Miller teaming up with Sims and Pierson again on offense, along with a 4-star, national top 50 recruit in 2010 (McCay).  Throw in the #1 overall juco recruit on defense (Combs) and some other studs, and you're damn right I'm excited about KU football moving forward. 

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2013, 02:47:53 PM »
Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2013, 02:49:05 PM »
Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.


Teams will stack the box if K-State can't throw.  Who are your threats at the receiver position to keep defenses honest?  Lockett? 

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2013, 02:49:17 PM »
Sams doesn't understand the offense yet, and he's got a flat trajectory on his passes.  I have my doubts whether or not he can play QB at this level.  Waters will probably be the starter anyways.  All I'm saying is that K-State has quite a few question marks next year as well. 

K-State will most likely have the better team again next year, but I do think that KU is closing the gap a little bit.  Heaps was the #1 QB in his recruiting class, and he'll be going into next year with over a year of experience within KU's system.  Word on the street is that Heaps would have started last year if he had been eligible.  Then you've got Darius Miller teaming up with Sims and Pierson again on offense, along with a 4-star, national top 50 recruit in 2010 (McCay).  Throw in the #1 overall juco recruit on defense (Combs) and some other studs, and you're damn right I'm excited about KU football moving forward.


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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2013, 02:49:47 PM »
Of course Heaps would have started last year. Did you see who you trotted out there?

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2013, 02:49:50 PM »
Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.

This.

Hell we beat texas in '10 and we threw the ball a total of like 4 times.

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2013, 02:51:04 PM »
Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.


Teams will stack the box if K-State can't throw.  Who are your threats at the receiver position to keep defenses honest?  Lockett?


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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2013, 02:53:17 PM »
So, according to the consensus here at goEMAW, K-State football is on cruise control?  10+ win seasons and back-to-back-to-back Big 12 titles are the norm now? 

Just trying to get a sense for what we're dealing with here.

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2013, 02:53:28 PM »
Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.


Teams will stack the box if K-State can't throw.  Who are your threats at the receiver position to keep defenses honest?  Lockett?
The reason you don't believe SAMS can throw, is cause he never had to last year. You're kidding yourself though. He's got a killer arm and Snyder didn't want to give away any film in mop up duty. QB is the least of my worries. We can be this seasons version of WV last year, but with a little better D. Also, WR is not a worry of mine either.

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Re: Official "Would a single KU player make KSU's roster" 2012 edition
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2013, 02:55:43 PM »
Even if beems is trolling, a lot of big 12 fans need to understand the difference between "he can't throw" vs "he doesn't have to throw" underneath a Snyder system.


Teams will stack the box if K-State can't throw.  Who are your threats at the receiver position to keep defenses honest?  Lockett?
The reason you don't believe SAMS can throw, is cause he never had to last year. You're kidding yourself though. He's got a killer arm and Snyder didn't want to give away any film in mop up duty. QB is the least of my worries. We can be this seasons version of WV last year, but with a little better D. Also, WR is also not a worry of mine.



Snyder has said publicly that Sams has had a tough time understanding the offense (similar to Bishop).  He's more of an athlete right now than a QB.  I've heard Waters will probably be the starter anyway.