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Title: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 11:24:57 AM
I've got about 5 years on my 55-inch Sony rear-projection TV.  A week or so ago, message on the screen said the lamp would die soon, ordered one off amazon for $40 to have when it happened.  It happened.  Put the new one in, all good, but as of this morning the message is back saying that lamp would die soon.  I've got another one en route just in case.

Need recommendations for a new one if I find this lamp thing isn't going to work out.  Need 55-60 inch, would prefer Sony (I have their credit card), do not want 3D, don't think I care about smart tv/wifi as I've got PS3 and blu-ray with that stuff plugged in already.  Being thin or light isn't that important; I liked the rear-projection because my place and the stand I had was plenty big for it and I got more bang for the buck, but I guess those aren't made anymore.

Also, if I decide to give up on the current TV but it still works great so long as you keep feeding it lamps, it'll be great for a Wichitan's basement theater room or something.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: ChiComCat on September 17, 2012, 11:26:46 AM
You can find ridiculous 70-80 inch projection tvs now for around 1k.  I've used tigerdirect.com before and like them fine.  Got a refurbished LCD tv about 7 years ago and its still going strong.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 17, 2012, 11:28:08 AM
Sony sucks.   Get a new credit card.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2012, 11:28:21 AM
I have this one. I know nothing about TVs but it looked good at the store and looks good in my living room.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+55%26%2334%3B+Class+-+LED+-+1080p+-+240Hz+-+Smart+-+3D+-+HDTV/4756881.p?id=1218522131355&skuId=4756881

EDIT: no, this one ^. it says 3d but I didn't even buy the glasses and all the good TVs are going to be "3d" now anyway so that really isn't a feature to avoid or anything.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Pete on September 17, 2012, 11:30:38 AM
I went to Costco, and bought the cheapest 50" LCD they had.  Works great.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 11:35:52 AM
I have this one. I know nothing about TVs but it looked good at the store and looks good in my living room.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+55%26%2334%3B+Class+-+LED+-+1080p+-+240Hz+-+Smart+-+3D+-+HDTV/4756881.p?id=1218522131355&skuId=4756881

EDIT: no, this one ^. it says 3d but I didn't even buy the glasses and all the good TVs are going to be "3d" now anyway so that really isn't a feature to avoid or anything.

I think the one you linked the first time was the same thing but without 3D and $400 cheaper.  That's what I'd been planning to get but am opening this up for discussion here at goEMAW.com.

The main problem is not having a place to put the old TV yet if I were to go buy a new one this afternoon.  I suppose I could put the new one off to the side and we'd have a hell of a setup for watching football on Saturday.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: ben ji on September 17, 2012, 11:40:07 AM
Someone please explain to TV noob ben ji LCD vs LED vs Plasma.

Also 1080 vs 720.

I have heard that LCD and 1080 are the best but how much difference to they make?

I bought my last TV(37 inch flat, not sure on other specs) for $300 from my old Boss's son who needed money to buy beer and drugs...hmm, this story should go into other thread about when you realized you didnt fit in at work.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: puniraptor on September 17, 2012, 11:41:39 AM
Someone please explain to TV noob ben ji LCD vs LED vs Plasma.

Also 1080 vs 720.

I have heard that LCD and 1080 are the best but how much difference to they make?

I bought my last TV(37 inch flat, not sure on other specs) for $300 from my old Boss's son who needed money to buy beer and drugs...hmm, this story should go into other thread about when you realized you didnt fit in at work.

its 2012. dont get 720. They probably dont even make 720s anymore. Just go to bestbuy or walmart or some crap, and pick out the one you like best, then find it online for cheaper.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 17, 2012, 11:43:38 AM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+55%26%2334%3B+Class+-+LED+-+1080p+-+240Hz+-+Smart+-+3D+-+HDTV/4756881.p?id=1218522131355&skuId=4756881
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Daiji on September 17, 2012, 11:45:46 AM
I'm quickly running out of bars in Wichita that I hang out in and watch the games. If the list gets any smaller it will be Old Chicago and my house. And then shortly after it will be only my place. I just want to get a jump on updating my TV now before that happens.

I fixed your post for clarity. You're welcome.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: ChiComCat on September 17, 2012, 11:46:16 AM
LED is brighter than Plasma.  LCD used to be the alternative to plasma for fear of burn in, which really doesn't happen much anymore.

I would make sure you have actual refresh of at least 120 hz as most tvs say trumotion 120 hz which means 60 hz.  Other than that, 1080 and do what the punraper said.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 17, 2012, 11:47:51 AM
Someone please explain to TV noob ben ji LCD vs LED vs Plasma.

Also 1080 vs 720.

I have heard that LCD and 1080 are the best but how much difference to they make?

I bought my last TV(37 inch flat, not sure on other specs) for $300 from my old Boss's son who needed money to buy beer and drugs...hmm, this story should go into other thread about when you realized you didnt fit in at work.

1080p vs 720 - This is the pixel density.   1080p is true HD, 720 is lesser quality.    Depending on the size of the set, and how far you will sit from it watching, it may not matter.    For instance, for that 32" tv in the bedroom, 720 is fine.      If you put a 65" in the family room and watch from the couch 7 feet away, you will want 1080p.

LCD - type of screen.   Generally good for situations where there is a lot of lighting or glare, as they don't have as much of a problem with reflection.  Pixels illuminated by flourescents.
Plasma - different type of screen.   Generally better blacks in picture quality, bad for rooms with lots of backlighting because of glare.    Older sets used to be energy hogs, but they have gotten much better.  Do not have a backlit screen.   Image burn-in is largely a thing of the past unless you intentionally abuse a set.
LED - Generally speaking this is NOT LED tv.   This is LED LCD, which is different.    Here, LEDs around the edge of the screen illuminate the pixels, whereas a TRUE LED set has individual LEDs for the pixels.     LED LCD is ore expensive than LCD.

For image quality, LED LCD and Plasma are best.   Plasma offers the best colors and truest blacks (because of the lack of backlighting).

If you are wall mounting and care about the thickness of the set, then it's LED LCD>Plasma>LCD.


FWIW the best tv I've ever owned was a 42" Panny plasma....wish I'd never sold it.

Also, be wary of Trumotion.    I see some sets (like my parents) that have it, and the image becomes odd looking.    I've tried adjusting the set to no avail, as apparently their set Trumotion cannot be turned off.    DVDs look like home video, flat image depth, jerky movement.   It's very bothersome, at least to me.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 11:51:07 AM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+55%26%2334%3B+Class+-+LED+-+1080p+-+240Hz+-+Smart+-+3D+-+HDTV/4756881.p?id=1218522131355&skuId=4756881

So this one, right?  Same but no 3D?  Only other difference I see is 120hz vs. 240 hz refresh (do not know what that means). 

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony---55%26%2334%3B-Class---LED---1080p---120Hz---Smart---HDTV/4756863.p?skuId=4756863&id=1218522130334

Just go to bestbuy or walmart or some crap, and pick out the one you like best, then find it online for cheaper.

Will I get that sony tv significantly cheaper online?  I get best buy points on top of the sony credit card points too.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 11:53:04 AM
I'm quickly running out of bars in Wichita that I hang out in and watch the games. If the list gets any smaller it will be Old Chicago and my house. And then shortly after it will be only my place. I just want to get a jump on updating my TV now before that happens.

I fixed your post for clarity. You're welcome.

My house is usually the preferred spot.  Funny reason we went to the bar Saturday that I'll tell you when we hoop next.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: puniraptor on September 17, 2012, 11:54:40 AM
Will I get that sony tv significantly cheaper online?  I get best buy points on top of the sony credit card points too.

probably not a whole lot, except for taxes. worth the convenience to just buy at bestbuy. plus, POINTS!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_opera_effect#Soap_Opera_Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_opera_effect#Soap_Opera_Effect)

I would not go with higher refresh rate, its not really useful if you aren't doing 3d, and it just makes everything look Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and costs more.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 17, 2012, 11:55:45 AM
Will I get that sony tv significantly cheaper online?  I get best buy points on top of the sony credit card points too.

probably not a whole lot, except for taxes. worth the convenience to just buy at bestbuy. plus, POINTS!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_opera_effect#Soap_Opera_Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_opera_effect#Soap_Opera_Effect)

I would not go with higher refresh rate, its not really useful if you aren't doing 3d, and it just makes everything look Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and costs more.

That's EXACTLY what I was describing....did not know it had a name.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 11:57:24 AM
Alright, looks like we've solved part 1 of this situation.

JW, buy my old TV and let's throw it out by the pool. 
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: pissclams on September 17, 2012, 11:58:58 AM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+/+55%26%2334%3B+Class+/+Plasma+/+1080p+/+600Hz+/+Smart+/+3D+/+HDTV/4841545.p?id=1218541222563&skuId=4841545
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 17, 2012, 12:05:51 PM
BTW Trim, unless you really care about the BB points, that tv is on ebay BIN from Amazon for $1550 free shipping (no tax)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-KDL-55HX750-55-Full-3D-1080p-HD-LED-LCD-Internet-TV-/271059623838?pt=Televisions&hash=item3f1c699f9e
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 17, 2012, 12:06:35 PM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+/+55%26%2334%3B+Class+/+Plasma+/+1080p+/+600Hz+/+Smart+/+3D+/+HDTV/4841545.p?id=1218541222563&skuId=4841545

if he can control the lighting, this would definitely be my choice.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 12:11:46 PM
BTW Trim, unless you really care about the BB points, that tv is on ebay BIN from Amazon for $1550 free shipping (no tax)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-KDL-55HX750-55-Full-3D-1080p-HD-LED-LCD-Internet-TV-/271059623838?pt=Televisions&hash=item3f1c699f9e

I don't want 3D.  The virtually identical Sony TV sans 3D is at best buy for $1400.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+/+55%26%2334%3B+Class+/+Plasma+/+1080p+/+600Hz+/+Smart+/+3D+/+HDTV/4841545.p?id=1218541222563&skuId=4841545

if he can control the lighting, this would definitely be my choice.

Hasn't almost everyone been in my house*?  It's pretty bright in there.

Remember that pig aggy who was wrongly flipping out about IPs being posted and it spiraling into accusations of others trespassing into our homes and posting from them?  :lol:
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2012, 12:14:36 PM
It's got some other benefits other than the 3D
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: slobber on September 17, 2012, 12:15:53 PM
BTW Trim, unless you really care about the BB points, that tv is on ebay BIN from Amazon for $1550 free shipping (no tax)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-KDL-55HX750-55-Full-3D-1080p-HD-LED-LCD-Internet-TV-/271059623838?pt=Televisions&hash=item3f1c699f9e

I don't want 3D.  The virtually identical Sony TV sans 3D is at best buy for $1400.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+/+55%26%2334%3B+Class+/+Plasma+/+1080p+/+600Hz+/+Smart+/+3D+/+HDTV/4841545.p?id=1218541222563&skuId=4841545

if he can control the lighting, this would definitely be my choice.

Hasn't almost everyone been in my house*?  It's pretty bright in there.

Remember that pig aggy who was wrongly flipping out about IPs being posted and it spiraling into accusations of others trespassing into our homes and posting from them?  :lol:
Marilyn, right?
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 17, 2012, 12:16:09 PM
Plasma sucks ass w/ a ton of natural light, don't do it
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2012, 12:17:23 PM
ya, plasmas are for chumps.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: puniraptor on September 17, 2012, 12:17:54 PM
Plasma sucks ass w/ a ton of natural light, don't do it

lcd/leds are good enough now to make plasma obsolete.

plasma also takes alot more energy and generates alot of heat, if you care about that crap.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2012, 12:23:05 PM
Trim, go to the chart at the bottom of this page to see differences:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL55HX750-55-Inch-Internet/dp/B006U1VH64
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 12:41:58 PM
Trim, go to the chart at the bottom of this page to see differences:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL55HX750-55-Inch-Internet/dp/B006U1VH64

Saw that, I don't think I want any of that stuff for $400.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: pissclams on September 17, 2012, 01:13:24 PM
Plasma sucks ass w/ a ton of natural light, don't do it

lcd/leds are good enough now to make plasma obsolete.

plasma also takes alot more energy and generates alot of heat, if you care about that crap.

you are stupid.

plasma > any other tech.

also, panasonic plasma's anti-glare is great.

summary:  don't be stupid.  lcd/led can't touch plasma. learn and live.  live and learn.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: ChiComCat on September 17, 2012, 01:16:20 PM
I just got a panasonic plasma with anti-glare. It was brighter or as bright as the LEDs I saw.  I like it a lot.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 17, 2012, 01:23:15 PM
 :blank:
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: pissclams on September 17, 2012, 01:25:33 PM
hugs are better than drugs, saul.  time for you to sober up and kick your heroin addiction.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2012, 01:34:24 PM
I have a 50" LG plasma. Love it.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: pissclams on September 17, 2012, 01:37:01 PM
I have a 50" LG plasma. Love it.

do you know what LG stands for?  Loser Grande.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2012, 01:38:50 PM
I have a 50" LG plasma. Love it.

do you know what LG stands for?  Loser Grande.

Explain why my life is good then.  :dunno:
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 17, 2012, 01:46:21 PM
Plasma is a dead technology, imo. But if you can find one considerably cheaper, get it as the picture is great.  Would go with an LED if it was me tho. 
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 17, 2012, 01:54:14 PM
Old TV, post an ad on craigslist.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2012, 02:36:38 PM
Did you reset the timer on the replaced bulb?

I have a Samsung 50 inch DLP . . . now with the dreaded processor problems.   :cry:  Love the DLP picture, more cinema like, not as harsh as LCD.    Only one company I can see even still makes DLP.  Mitsubishi.


Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2012, 02:40:14 PM
I have a 46" Toshiba DLP in my basement that works perfectly fine with a Toshiba stand if someone in the Omaha area wants to buy it for like $200.  You have to come get it yourself.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdi1-4.shoppingshadow.com%2Fimages%2Fpi%2F1e%2F5c%2F5b%2F26180600-260x260-0-0_Toshiba%2B46HM95.jpg&hash=a2f36a72aa063d43fa9234027b6134219c32eb5a)
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2012, 02:40:43 PM
My dad has a 52" JVC rear-projection. Love the loudness of the unit, love the 720p picture, love the three-minute startup time, love the 6800 lb weight of the tv itself. Just a great TV.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: 8manpick on September 17, 2012, 02:44:15 PM
I have a 46" Toshiba DLP in my basement that works perfectly fine with a Toshiba stand if someone in the Omaha area wants to buy it for like $200.  You have to come get it yourself.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdi1-4.shoppingshadow.com%2Fimages%2Fpi%2F1e%2F5c%2F5b%2F26180600-260x260-0-0_Toshiba%2B46HM95.jpg&hash=a2f36a72aa063d43fa9234027b6134219c32eb5a)

Great, I'll totally take it for $100 if you throw in Manhattan delivery. Thanks!
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 17, 2012, 02:45:49 PM
My dad has a 52" JVC rear-projection. Love the loudness of the unit, love the 720p picture, love the three-minute startup time, love the 6800 lb weight of the tv itself. Just a great TV.
:lol:
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 03:01:05 PM
Did you reset the timer on the replaced bulb?

This sounds promising.  All I did was take the old one out and jam the new one in.  The new one came in its own housing or case or whatever so I didn't mess with the bulb per se at all.  How do I reset the timer?

Stopped by Best Buy at lunch, the much-discussed non-3D Sony looked like absolute crap there, so much that I don't think the display one could possibly be working right.  I'll hit the other one tomorrow to confirm.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 17, 2012, 03:10:48 PM
Did you reset the timer on the replaced bulb?

This sounds promising.  All I did was take the old one out and jam the new one in.  The new one came in its own housing or case or whatever so I didn't mess with the bulb per se at all.  How do I reset the timer?

Stopped by Best Buy at lunch, the much-discussed non-3D Sony looked like absolute crap there, so much that I don't think the display one could possibly be working right.  I'll hit the other one tomorrow to confirm.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5535314_reset-lamp-hours-tv.html
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 03:17:45 PM
http://www.ehow.com/how_5535314_reset-lamp-hours-tv.html

Will try.

So, is the message popping up because the counter got to a really big number?  I thought it's popping up because it's somehow knowing that particular lamp is almost mumped.  Like, the message popped up and within a week, lamp was dead.  I didn't think those things could have that precise of a lifespan.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: pissclams on September 17, 2012, 03:30:58 PM
http://www.ehow.com/how_5535314_reset-lamp-hours-tv.html

Will try.

So, is the message popping up because the counter got to a really big number?  I thought it's popping up because it's somehow knowing that particular lamp is almost mumped.  Like, the message popped up and within a week, lamp was dead.  I didn't think those things could have that precise of a lifespan.

change your oil every 6 months or 3,000 miles
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2012, 03:33:34 PM
Did you reset the timer on the replaced bulb?

I have a Samsung 50 inch DLP . . . now with the dreaded processor problems.   :cry:  Love the DLP picture, more cinema like, not as harsh as LCD.    Only one company I can see even still makes DLP.  Mitsubishi.

i have this in my bedroom.  it was my parents (first time we watched it was 2003 dr pepper  :gocho:) really perfect for putting a movie on before sleepytime.  very movie theatreish.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 03:47:49 PM
http://www.ehow.com/how_5535314_reset-lamp-hours-tv.html

Will try.

So, is the message popping up because the counter got to a really big number?  I thought it's popping up because it's somehow knowing that particular lamp is almost mumped.  Like, the message popped up and within a week, lamp was dead.  I didn't think those things could have that precise of a lifespan.

change your oil every 6 months or 3,000 miles

My car chimes and has a thing light up when it's that time (of the month, lol -kstatemask).
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: hemmy on September 17, 2012, 04:35:38 PM
benji has a tv for cheap, check the don't fit in at work thread.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 08:03:41 PM
http://www.ehow.com/how_5535314_reset-lamp-hours-tv.html

Will try.

So, is the message popping up because the counter got to a really big number?  I thought it's popping up because it's somehow knowing that particular lamp is almost mumped.  Like, the message popped up and within a week, lamp was dead.  I didn't think those things could have that precise of a lifespan.

:flush:
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 17, 2012, 08:41:33 PM
Good god
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 17, 2012, 09:12:24 PM
Mods, please move to the "Oops, I can't read my television's owner's manual" thread
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2012, 09:22:17 PM
Mods, please move to the "Oops, I can't read my television's owner's manual" thread

Hook me up.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDS60A2020.pdf
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 17, 2012, 09:51:30 PM
mikey + google= expert on everything
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 17, 2012, 09:52:05 PM
Mods, please move to the "Oops, I can't read my television's owner's manual" thread

Hook me up.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDS60A2020.pdf

not sure what you mean?   you saying you can't figure out how to reset it?   Page 54.
Title: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: puniraptor on September 17, 2012, 09:54:00 PM
I feel like this thread is a stealth extension of trim's OT: Hiring thread. We have all just been interviewed.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 18, 2012, 01:33:45 AM
Mods, please move to the "Oops, I can't read my television's owner's manual" thread

Hook me up.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDS60A2020.pdf

not sure what you mean?   you saying you can't figure out how to reset it?   Page 54.

I see that now.  I'd been following these convoluted instructions: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22769.msg604394#msg604394

T-Y for pointing out a much simpler method than what that bad person posted.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 18, 2012, 10:34:37 AM
Mods, please move to the "Oops, I can't read my television's owner's manual" thread

Hook me up.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDS60A2020.pdf

not sure what you mean?   you saying you can't figure out how to reset it?   Page 54.

I see that now.  I'd been following these convoluted instructions: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22769.msg604394#msg604394

T-Y for pointing out a much simpler method than what that bad person posted.

those were generic instructions provided prior to you posting what model you owned.

Mods, please move to the tech support thread.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 18, 2012, 10:39:58 AM
Mods, please move to the "Oops, I can't read my television's owner's manual" thread

Hook me up.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDS60A2020.pdf

not sure what you mean?   you saying you can't figure out how to reset it?   Page 54.

I see that now.  I'd been following these convoluted instructions: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22769.msg604394#msg604394

T-Y for pointing out a much simpler method than what that bad person posted.

those were generic instructions provided prior to you posting what model you owned.

Mods, please move to the tech support thread.

I think I mumped stuff up in that service menu while fumbling through your generic instructions.  How do I reset all that crap?
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: pissclams on September 18, 2012, 11:28:17 AM
I think I mumped stuff up in that service menu while fumbling through your generic instructions.  How do I reset all that crap?

um. lol.  uh oh. 
there is some service menu stuff that you can't "reset" without having the original settings unique to your exact television written down somewhere.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 18, 2012, 11:40:54 AM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Tobias on September 18, 2012, 11:50:06 AM
what a tragic thread.  i mean, pitfalls everywhere
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 18, 2012, 11:54:53 AM
I think I mumped stuff up in that service menu while fumbling through your generic instructions.  How do I reset all that crap?

um. lol.  uh oh. 
there is some service menu stuff that you can't "reset" without having the original settings unique to your exact television written down somewhere.

In cycling through all the different levels of service menu stuff, I hit a button that changed one of the value instead of going to another level.  So it went from 0 to 1.  I kept pushing it until it would cycle back to 0 and it got to 15 and stopped.  The black background of that menu screen was getting lighter as I did it.  I can't tell anymore with all the rough ridin' around I've been doing on it whether there's any change when I've got Basketball Wives or whatever actually on the screen.  There does appear to be a small amount of flickering at times, but I don't know if that's from whatever janky lamp I put in or from whatever I did in the service menu or maybe the whole thing just needs to be moved out to JW's pool ASAP and replaced.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2012, 11:58:43 AM
throw it out the window onto the pavement and go pickup that TV I linked

/thread
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 18, 2012, 12:07:01 PM
throw it out the window onto the pavement

Could be a drunken project for LSOC and I tonight, but it'd have to be off the balcony right over where the goEMAW banner is.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2012, 12:08:52 PM
would draw more attention to the banner as people look up to see where the TV originated from
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 18, 2012, 12:21:06 PM
would draw more attention to the banner as people look up to see where the TV originated from

It still works pretty well.  Maybe instead of tossing it, I'll get a bunch of cables and run them to the nicely-placed TV down on the street below the banner and have it playing fatty videos on a loop.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: pissclams on September 18, 2012, 12:37:32 PM
I think I mumped stuff up in that service menu while fumbling through your generic instructions.  How do I reset all that crap?

um. lol.  uh oh. 
there is some service menu stuff that you can't "reset" without having the original settings unique to your exact television written down somewhere.

In cycling through all the different levels of service menu stuff, I hit a button that changed one of the value instead of going to another level.  So it went from 0 to 1.  I kept pushing it until it would cycle back to 0 and it got to 15 and stopped.  The black background of that menu screen was getting lighter as I did it.  I can't tell anymore with all the rough ridin' around I've been doing on it whether there's any change when I've got Basketball Wives or whatever actually on the screen.  There does appear to be a small amount of flickering at times, but I don't know if that's from whatever janky lamp I put in or from whatever I did in the service menu or maybe the whole thing just needs to be moved out to JW's pool ASAP and replaced.
try unplugging the set, if you didn't save the change, it will revert to it's previous setting.

if that doesn't work you just need to find the "down" button, here's what i found-
1      item up
4      item down
3      data up
6      data down
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 18, 2012, 01:35:09 PM
found it!   

Go into the service menu and using the navigation keys:
UP, UP, DOWN, DOWN
then go into the brightness settings
LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT
then exit out of the menu all together.  using the keys on the remote
B, A, START.


That should reset everything to factory defaults.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 18, 2012, 02:14:31 PM
I think I mumped stuff up in that service menu while fumbling through your generic instructions.  How do I reset all that crap?

um. lol.  uh oh. 
there is some service menu stuff that you can't "reset" without having the original settings unique to your exact television written down somewhere.

In cycling through all the different levels of service menu stuff, I hit a button that changed one of the value instead of going to another level.  So it went from 0 to 1.  I kept pushing it until it would cycle back to 0 and it got to 15 and stopped.  The black background of that menu screen was getting lighter as I did it.  I can't tell anymore with all the rough ridin' around I've been doing on it whether there's any change when I've got Basketball Wives or whatever actually on the screen.  There does appear to be a small amount of flickering at times, but I don't know if that's from whatever janky lamp I put in or from whatever I did in the service menu or maybe the whole thing just needs to be moved out to JW's pool ASAP and replaced.
try unplugging the set, if you didn't save the change, it will revert to it's previous setting.

if that doesn't work you just need to find the "down" button, here's what i found-
1      item up
4      item down
3      data up
6      data down

:thumbs:  Will try. 

Went to the eastside best buy and yeah, the non-3D Sony sucks compared to the 3D one.  At least I'll get enough points with this whole thing to get a bunch of free 3D glasses.  :flush:
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 18, 2012, 02:30:57 PM
I don't think you can really compare televisions by display models. JMO.

Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 18, 2012, 02:34:12 PM
I don't think you can really compare televisions by display models. JMO.

I thought that too, but I went to 2 different Best Buys and they had absolutely equal discrepancies between models.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 18, 2012, 02:35:27 PM
I don't think you can really compare televisions by display models. JMO.

I thought that too, but I went to 2 different Best Buys and they had absolutely equal discrepancies between models.
Pretty small sample size.

Also they tend to make certain models look shitty on purpose
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 18, 2012, 02:37:05 PM
I don't think you can really compare televisions by display models. JMO.

I thought that too, but I went to 2 different Best Buys and they had absolutely equal discrepancies between models.
Pretty small sample size.

Also they tend to make certain models look shitty on purpose

:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: puniraptor on September 18, 2012, 02:41:16 PM
I had it narrowed down to 2 tvs and spent hours in best buy tweaking all their picture settings to make them look as good as possible before I finally decided.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 18, 2012, 02:48:43 PM
One thing to keep in mind is the non-3D includes an LED "edge" backlight , where the 3D one includes a "dynamic edge". What that means, I don't really know, but would explain drastic differences in picture quality with non 3D content.

But I don't think you'd go wrong with either TV.

FWIW, when you get the TV, let us know the model #, there are forums devoted to geeks fine tuning the picture and posting the exact settings you need to optimize picture quality
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2012, 02:49:55 PM
Go to CNet and read about what each one does and doesn't do
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 18, 2012, 03:06:20 PM
display tvs are shitty.    they are out of the box settings, or worse, some dumbasses tweaking.     Plus the input is usually a satellite signal split amongst 53 tvs or a DVD player hooked up with RCA cables.

The best thing to do is research the eff out of tvs online, reading reviews, visiting AVSForums, and armed with that picking the set you feel best meets your criteria.   Once you buy it, use the calibration settings provided by AVSForum users to set it up to the "ideal" settings, and tweak that to your taste.     I personally like a little brighter picture than most "ideal" settings provide, to each their own.

Comparing 2 tvs in Best Buy based on picture quality is garbage.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: puniraptor on September 18, 2012, 03:08:31 PM
give each television a gentle caress and choose the one that just feels right.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: pissclams on September 18, 2012, 04:22:47 PM
I don't think you can really compare televisions by display models. JMO.

I thought that too, but I went to 2 different Best Buys and they had absolutely equal discrepancies between models.
Pretty small sample size.

Also they tend to make certain models look shitty on purpose

:horrorsurprise:

it's true.  they'll make certain models that they're trying to sell look better than the others around it.
use online reviews to help you decide which tv is the best and just go from there.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Mr Bread on September 18, 2012, 04:41:16 PM
I don't think you can really compare televisions by display models. JMO.

I thought that too, but I went to 2 different Best Buys and they had absolutely equal discrepancies between models.
Pretty small sample size.

Also they tend to make certain models look shitty on purpose

:horrorsurprise:

it's true.  they'll make certain models that they're trying to sell look better than the others around it.
use online reviews to help you decide which tv is the best and just go from there.

What if the internet wants him to buy another and not because of its merits?  What then pissclams?  I think he should just ask The Ed on a call-in. 
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 18, 2012, 05:04:03 PM
I don't think you can really compare televisions by display models. JMO.

I thought that too, but I went to 2 different Best Buys and they had absolutely equal discrepancies between models.
Pretty small sample size.

Also they tend to make certain models look shitty on purpose

:horrorsurprise:

it's true.  they'll make certain models that they're trying to sell look better than the others around it.
use online reviews to help you decide which tv is the best and just go from there.

What if the internet wants him to buy another and not because of its merits?  What then pissclams?  I think he should just ask The Ed on a call-in. 

True story, The Ed has like 9 big-screen TVs.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Trim on September 21, 2012, 06:15:12 PM
I think I mumped stuff up in that service menu while fumbling through your generic instructions.  How do I reset all that crap?

um. lol.  uh oh. 
there is some service menu stuff that you can't "reset" without having the original settings unique to your exact television written down somewhere.

In cycling through all the different levels of service menu stuff, I hit a button that changed one of the value instead of going to another level.  So it went from 0 to 1.  I kept pushing it until it would cycle back to 0 and it got to 15 and stopped.  The black background of that menu screen was getting lighter as I did it.  I can't tell anymore with all the rough ridin' around I've been doing on it whether there's any change when I've got Basketball Wives or whatever actually on the screen.  There does appear to be a small amount of flickering at times, but I don't know if that's from whatever janky lamp I put in or from whatever I did in the service menu or maybe the whole thing just needs to be moved out to JW's pool ASAP and replaced.
try unplugging the set, if you didn't save the change, it will revert to it's previous setting.

if that doesn't work you just need to find the "down" button, here's what i found-
1      item up
4      item down
3      data up
6      data down

:thumbs:  Will try. 

IT WORKED!

T-Y, clams.  There may have been a couple other values I changed like by 1, but nothing extreme like the one I found again and got back to where it was.  No ore flickering, but eff you taco ball doritos loco taco commercial that ends with a black screen and the taco bell logo kind of flickering that made me think it was still broke for a second.

OU game pak at my house with my big ass rear projection TV.  I've even got an extra lamp now in case this one blows up.

Somebody let me know when those new 55-inch sonys drop another $500 and we'll do the whole debate between steve dave's, the non-3d and whatever ChiCat was talking about all over again.

Good work all around.
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: pissclams on October 03, 2012, 01:11:43 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-P60U50-60-Inch-600Hz-Plasma/dp/B008KCSMHS/ref=sr_1_1?t=slicinc-20&tag=slicinc-20&s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1349238751&sr=1-1&keywords=p60u50


60 inch panasonic plasma, $900/free shipping, no tax, +$18 amazon credit
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: shivvyman on October 03, 2012, 01:24:20 PM
On another note, what cleaning solution are all you LED owners using for your TV? Whatever I use looks hazy/streaky afterwards.

Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2012, 01:25:13 PM
On another note, what cleaning solution are all you LED owners using for your TV? Whatever I use looks hazy/streaky afterwards.

none, ever
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 03, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
Seems like we have a lot of AV experts at goEMAW.com
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2012, 01:29:52 PM
Seems like we have a lot of AV experts at goEMAW.com

they are all just regurgitating AV scoop from this guy on phog.net
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: EMAWican on October 03, 2012, 01:33:16 PM
On another note, what cleaning solution are all you LED owners using for your TV? Whatever I use looks hazy/streaky afterwards.

I just use water to dampen a microfiber cleaning cloth for touchscreens/any other screen. 
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 03, 2012, 01:43:13 PM
WNK's AV Tip of the Week:

NEVER buy an HDMI cable from the Best Buy's of the world.  A 20ft HDMI cable priced at $8 online compared to a known brand 20ft HDMI cable priced at $45 will give the user the same results.  Wish I would have went into the AV cable business.  Some of them make 500% profit.  Obviously they have a great Marketing team.

Stay tuned for next week's WNK's AV Tip of the Week....only at goEMAW.com. 
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: pissclams on October 03, 2012, 02:20:01 PM
WNK's AV Tip of the Week:

NEVER buy an HDMI cable from the Best Buy's of the world.  A 20ft HDMI cable priced at $8 online compared to a known brand 20ft HDMI cable priced at $45 will give the user the same results.  Wish I would have went into the AV cable business.  Some of them make 500% profit.  Obviously they have a great Marketing team.

Stay tuned for next week's WNK's AV Tip of the Week....only at goEMAW.com. 


can we call this Luke's AV Tip of 6 years ago?
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 03, 2012, 02:21:45 PM
WNK's AV Tip of the Week:

NEVER buy an HDMI cable from the Best Buy's of the world.  A 20ft HDMI cable priced at $8 online compared to a known brand 20ft HDMI cable priced at $45 will give the user the same results.  Wish I would have went into the AV cable business.  Some of them make 500% profit.  Obviously they have a great Marketing team.

Stay tuned for next week's WNK's AV Tip of the Week....only at goEMAW.com. 


can we call this Luke's AV Tip of 6 years ago?
6 years and 1 week ago
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 03, 2012, 04:14:53 PM
Guarantee 90% of the board still buys them at Best Buy PissSaul!
Title: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2012, 04:15:39 PM
Don't think so WNK
Title: Re: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: Pete on October 03, 2012, 04:22:05 PM
How is this stupid thread still going?  I told you guys, walk into Costco and buy the cheapest 50" LCD and be happy.
Title: May need new big-screen, probably already a thread for this, merge when found
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2012, 04:28:41 PM
I'm shocked Pete message boards here