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Title: +17
Post by: EllToPay on September 16, 2012, 02:30:53 PM
:sdeek:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: wetwillie on September 16, 2012, 02:31:54 PM
Easy money
Title: Re: +17
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 02:32:02 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: OK_Cat on September 16, 2012, 02:50:53 PM
we're going to get rolled by more than 17.  easy money.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: MadCat on September 16, 2012, 02:52:16 PM
More Disrespect, More Wins?
Title: Re: +17
Post by: puniraptor on September 16, 2012, 02:52:33 PM
We are going to kick their assholes in, I will not be swayed from this opinion.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: doom on September 16, 2012, 02:57:28 PM
We are going to kick their assholes in, I will not be swayed from this opinion.

Good you can melt down on our behalves.
Title: +17
Post by: steve dave on September 16, 2012, 02:57:56 PM
Oh man
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Winters on September 16, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
Damn
Title: Re: +17
Post by: michigancat on September 16, 2012, 03:02:48 PM
let the pickers pick and the players play you guys
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 16, 2012, 03:03:45 PM
Good god
Title: Re: +17
Post by: 8manpick on September 16, 2012, 03:06:08 PM
Looks like OBz gets to clownsuit Vegas again
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 16, 2012, 03:53:41 PM
Didn't j rake say that when 90% of the betters bet one way, you bet the other way? Vegas is begging people to bet on K-State. My confidence is even lower now.

Remember in 2011 when we had KU at home in basketball, and KU opened at something like -2? It was stupid, it was so obvious to bet on KU. It was right after the last second shot at CU that would have won the game? Then we won by a lot. Vegas knew something.

This is the worst thing that could have happened for my anxiety.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 16, 2012, 03:59:07 PM
What was the spread for the championship game in 2003?
Title: Re: +17
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 16, 2012, 04:00:47 PM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 16, 2012, 04:01:21 PM
+15 now.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: wetwillie on September 16, 2012, 04:19:16 PM
+15 now.

:gocho:

Title: Re: +17
Post by: SdK on September 16, 2012, 04:19:24 PM
What does Vegas know about our KSU Willedcats?







Not a goddamned thing. Cats win by 15+
Title: Re: +17
Post by: scottwildcat on September 16, 2012, 04:19:51 PM
+15 now.

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Legit Elite on September 16, 2012, 04:30:32 PM
What was the spread for the championship game in 2003?
Cats -27.5
Title: Re: +17
Post by: ChiComCat on September 16, 2012, 04:50:38 PM
Optimist: Cats covered almost every spread last year.  I'm not worried.

Pessimist:  OU was the team that shat all over the spread last year.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Frankenklein on September 16, 2012, 05:00:33 PM
We are going to kick their assholes in, I will not be swayed from this opinion.
And then we should move our state line south a few hundred feet....effing dirt thieves  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Legit Elite on September 16, 2012, 05:04:56 PM
We are going to kick their assholes in, I will not be swayed from this opinion.
And then we should move our state line south a few hundred feet....effing dirt thieves  :shakesfist:
We should make them cede the panhandle...then they will be just a shitty little pan and we will be permanently attached to our rival.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: g2brg on September 16, 2012, 05:19:32 PM
Cats were only 10 pt. dogs in 2003 dr. Pepper
Title: Re: +17
Post by: TheHamburglar on September 16, 2012, 07:53:44 PM
+15 now.

down to +13.5
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 16, 2012, 08:28:12 PM
Some interesting items:

WVU -28 v. Maryland  (are the Terps horrible?) :horrorsurprise:

Baylor -7 to Monroe (I know they look like a middling sec team but really?)   :confused:

KU +10 to NIU (who almost lost to Army)  :lol:

Cal+17 to USC (if the media wills it, usc is a nc contender)  :jerk:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 16, 2012, 09:16:17 PM
Some interesting items:

WVU -28 v. Maryland  (are the Terps horrible?) :horrorsurprise:

Baylor -7 to Monroe (I know they look like a middling sec team but really?)   :confused:

KU +10 to NIU (who almost lost to Army)  :lol:

Cal+17 to USC (if the media wills it, usc is a nc contender)  :jerk:

Would take USC -17 in a heartbeat
Title: Re: +17
Post by: AbeFroman on September 16, 2012, 09:17:19 PM
+15 now.

down to +13.5

Oh man lots of farmers about to lose the farm
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 16, 2012, 09:40:30 PM
We are going to kick their assholes in, I will not be swayed from this opinion.
And then we should move our state line south a few hundred feet....effing dirt thieves  :shakesfist:
We should make them cede the panhandle...then they will be just a shitty little pan and we will be permanently attached to our rival.

No. Oklahoma would have to pay another state to take that.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 16, 2012, 09:41:37 PM
Optimist: Cats covered almost every spread last year.  I'm not worried.

Pessimist:  OU was the team that shat all over the spread last year.

The real problem here is that there is a rough ridin' ocean to cross between covering this spread and actually winning the game.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Legit Elite on September 16, 2012, 09:45:32 PM
Optimist: Cats covered almost every spread last year.  I'm not worried.

Pessimist:  OU was the team that shat all over the spread last year.

The real problem here is that there is a rough ridin' ocean to cross between covering this spread and actually winning the game.
Maybe we can get floodaggie in here for some advice in this one.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: AbeFroman on September 17, 2012, 08:52:05 AM
Optimist: Cats covered almost every spread last year.  I'm not worried.

Pessimist:  OU was the team that shat all over the spread last year.

The real problem here is that there is a rough ridin' ocean to cross between covering this spread and actually winning the game.

A 7 to 10 point loss would be a confidence booster for me. After the north Texas dog crap game
Title: Re: +17
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2012, 08:55:30 AM
+15 now.

down to +13.5

Oh man lots of farmers about to lose the farm

protip: farmers didn't move that line  :sdeek:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: CNS on September 17, 2012, 08:58:30 AM
I really hope Bill schemed the team and actually let them overlook N Texas last week and that we have been practicing for OU all last week. 

Otherwise, our run D makes me  :runaway:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: EllToPay on September 17, 2012, 09:40:06 AM
who wants to be a goEMAW hero and figure out the biggest spread bill has overcome to win.

rake?  :crossfingers: although this sounds like something for dscott.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: ChiComCat on September 17, 2012, 10:19:04 AM
Prob the 27.5, no?
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Pete on September 17, 2012, 10:20:59 AM
who wants to be a goEMAW hero and figure out the biggest spread bill has overcome to win.

rake?  :crossfingers: although this sounds like something for dscott.

I'll bet it was the Dr. Pepper in 2003.  That line was huge.  Dennis Dodd had his famous pre-game quote "Pacific islands have better chances against tsunamis than K-State has against Oklahoma."
Title: Re: +17
Post by: TheHamburglar on September 17, 2012, 10:35:25 AM
+15 now.

down to +13.5

Oh man lots of farmers about to lose the farm

protip: farmers didn't move that line  :sdeek:

Yeah, there's about to be a massive number of bets placed on OU, possibly followed by the game getting pulled off the board.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: slimz on September 17, 2012, 10:44:50 AM
OU was 14-point favorites in 2003.

We were 17-point favorites in 1998.  :flush:

Nebraska was 20.5-point favorites in 1996.  :lol:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2012, 10:48:47 AM
I have a purely subjective question: What was the bigger fluke?

58-17 or 35-7
Title: Re: +17
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2012, 11:30:00 AM
I have a purely subjective question: What was the bigger fluke?

58-17 or 35-7

Damn good question, the biggest fluke number of the 4 is definitely holding OU to 7.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2012, 11:37:35 AM
Some interesting items:

WVU -28 v. Maryland  (are the Terps horrible?) :horrorsurprise:

Baylor -7 to Monroe (I know they look like a middling sec team but really?)   :confused:

KU +10 to NIU (who almost lost to Army)  :lol:

Cal+17 to USC (if the media wills it, usc is a nc contender)  :jerk:

Yeah Maryland are complete trash.  Randy Edsall will get fired at some point this season and its only his second at UM.  They beat William & Mary at home 7-6.  They just lost a home game to UCONN, the school Edsall ditched for Maryland.  UM is without a doubt worse than Marshall & we know how the WVU game turned out for them.  -28 is easy money, I'm sure that line will increase before kick off.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: nicname on September 17, 2012, 12:30:17 PM
Without saying anything regarding K-State, what exactly seems impressive about Oklahoma?
Title: Re: +17
Post by: 'taterblast on September 17, 2012, 12:36:46 PM
Without saying anything regarding K-State, what exactly seems impressive about Oklahoma?

their recruiting classes, their record at home
Title: Re: +17
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2012, 12:43:09 PM
Without saying anything regarding K-State, what exactly seems impressive about Oklahoma?

Their coach, his record as head coach, his home record as head coach, his QBs, and his 5 star players pretty much everywhere.


Title: Re: +17
Post by: ChiComCat on September 17, 2012, 12:44:25 PM
Without saying anything regarding K-State, what exactly seems impressive about Oklahoma?

Their coach, his record as head coach, his home record as head coach, his QBs, and his 5 star players pretty much everywhere.




Yea, eff that.  We're due. 
Title: Re: +17
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2012, 12:47:55 PM
 . . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.

Title: Re: +17
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 17, 2012, 12:50:37 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.



have you ever considered maybe being a fan of another school?  I can't imagine how much your life must suck.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 17, 2012, 12:55:11 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.



have you ever considered maybe being a fan of another school?  I can't imagine how much your life must suck.

dax is a well known KU fan. Kind of surprised the mods haven't changed his queso jars yet.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.



have you ever considered maybe being a fan of another school?  I can't imagine how much your life must suck.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/forum.asp?fid=419

You act like that movie I just described has never been seen before.

It will be a typical trip to Norman, we'll look like a$$ during certain parts and then likely make it respectable. 
Title: Re: +17
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2012, 12:57:30 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.



have you ever considered maybe being a fan of another school?  I can't imagine how much your life must suck.

GoodForAtuck

Aside from the fact that he didn't follow Nic's rule, what did he type that was wrong?  Have you watched KSU/OU games the last 13 seasons?  Christ man, making obvious observations doesn't mean the man isn't EMAW.  Take that crap to Wabash Station.

And eff you for making me advocate for Dax.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: mocat on September 17, 2012, 01:13:37 PM
And eff you for making me advocate for Dax.

 :lol:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: kso_FAN on September 17, 2012, 01:16:53 PM
Did you know...

In the last 22 years, K-State has been only been blown out by OU in Norman ONCE; 2005's 21-43 defeat.

Even 2009's team was within 5 points with seven minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2012, 01:17:32 PM
Did you know...

In the last 22 years, K-State has been only been blown out by OU in Norman ONCE; 2005's 21-43 defeat.

Even 2009's team was within 5 points with seven minutes left in the game.

how many times have we been blown out at home by them?
Title: Re: +17
Post by: kso_FAN on September 17, 2012, 01:20:38 PM
Did you know...

In the last 22 years, K-State has been only been blown out by OU in Norman ONCE; 2005's 21-43 defeat.

Even 2009's team was within 5 points with seven minutes left in the game.

how many times have we been blown out at home by them?

08 and 11 were blow outs; OU scored 58 each time.

00 and 04 were 10 point losses.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2012, 01:29:03 PM
The '01 game was probably a game we should have won.

We gave them a freebie on Ell's check into option, which was the right call, they literally had no one on that side, but we had  no one there on the pitch (a common theme when we go to Norman).   We also gave them a cheap TD on a cheesy ass fake punt when everybody in the stadium and the world (except the team) knew they were gonna run a fake. 

Title: Re: +17
Post by: pissclams on September 17, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.



have you ever considered maybe being a fan of another school?  I can't imagine how much your life must suck.

dax is a well known KU fan. Kind of surprised the mods haven't changed his queso jars yet.

it really takes a lot for me to change a poster's queso jars.  dax is no where close to that territory, yet. 
Title: Re: +17
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 17, 2012, 01:42:59 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.



have you ever considered maybe being a fan of another school?  I can't imagine how much your life must suck.

GoodForAtuck

Aside from the fact that he didn't follow Nic's rule, what did he type that was wrong?  Have you watched KSU/OU games the last 13 seasons?  Christ man, making obvious observations doesn't mean the man isn't EMAW.  Take that crap to Wabash Station.

And eff you for making me advocate for Dax.

I'm not saying he was wrong or right.  I just think it might be healthier for him if he found an easier to school to cheer for.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2012, 01:45:09 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.



have you ever considered maybe being a fan of another school?  I can't imagine how much your life must suck.

GoodForAtuck

Aside from the fact that he didn't follow Nic's rule, what did he type that was wrong?  Have you watched KSU/OU games the last 13 seasons?  Christ man, making obvious observations doesn't mean the man isn't EMAW.  Take that crap to Wabash Station.

And eff you for making me advocate for Dax.

I'm not saying he was wrong or right.  I just think it might be healthier for him if he found an easier to school to cheer for.

 :powerespect:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 17, 2012, 01:48:19 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.



have you ever considered maybe being a fan of another school?  I can't imagine how much your life must suck.

GoodForAtuck

Aside from the fact that he didn't follow Nic's rule, what did he type that was wrong?  Have you watched KSU/OU games the last 13 seasons?  Christ man, making obvious observations doesn't mean the man isn't EMAW.  Take that crap to Wabash Station.

And eff you for making me advocate for Dax.

I'm not saying he was wrong or right.  I just think it might be healthier for him if he found an easier to school to cheer for.

 :powerespect:

:powerespect:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: slimz on September 17, 2012, 01:57:45 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.

Yep. The first sentence is why we've lost all but 1 to OU in the Stoops era. The 2nd sentence is why 3 of the last 4 have been blowouts. Our secondary's efforts so far this year don't make me especially hopeful that we can avoid #2. We can hope that Landry is a bit off-sync like he seemed to be against UTEP. Problem is, when all he has to do is throw a little 7-15 yard crossing route that the WR catches then blows by our defensive backs for 6, it's a lot easier to get back into sync.

Here's how we might win Saturday:  lose the toss, receive the ball, good return, 6-minute drive for a TD. OU's not quite in sync on first drive, punts. We drive for a 2nd TD, another 6-minute drive. From there on out, we have no turnovers, force two on OU, have ~37 minute TOP, and try to make them run more than 4-5 plays on their scoring drives.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 17, 2012, 03:00:54 PM
Through 3 games, KSU has #18 rushing attack.  755yrds on 128 attempts.  5.90avg.  11 TDs. 

Through 2 games, OU has #50 rush defense.  268yrds on 64 attempts.  4.2avg.  Gave up 207yrds to UTEP, 61 to F&M.  UTEP is a fairly bad team. 

I expect OU to be better against the run than they were @ UTEP.  But, if KSUers are looking for that single ray of hope, maybe we will be able to run the ball effectively, eat clock, minimize possessions, etc. 

If we get down early and have to pass the ball, however, this game will be over in the 1st Q.     

Title: Re: +17
Post by: Kat Kid on September 17, 2012, 03:05:04 PM
To dax, slmz and all the other negative nancy's:

Yes, we get it.  We are an underdog.  Did you not read the freaking thread title?  WE ARE ALL AWARE!  I don't really know who you think you're talking to with your concern trolls about the team being ready and your pre-emptive melt downs.  If you have lived Big 8, Big 12, Big 12-2 football, you know this matchup.  As _FAN astutely pointed out, this matchup has not been as lopsided as the score suggests!  EVEN IN NORMAN!

Now I also want to bring something else to your attention.  In the Stoops era here are the QB's we've brought to Norman:

2001: Sophomore Ell Roberson
2005: Senior Allen Webb
2009: Senior Grant Gregory
2012: Senior Collin Klein

Which of these is not like the other ones?  A sophomore, two transfer QBs or a 2nd year starter with immense game experience.  Of course the defense has to play well, but we should put up points.  We should control the tempo. 

Look at '09!
We won TOP, had 50% 3rd down conversion (despite giving up 76%!!), converted 66% 4th Down! and 80% in the RZ.  Why did we lose?  The first four possessions of the game OU went 8 plays for 14-0, while Kstate went 6 plays, two punts.  AND WE STILL WERE KICKING OFF WITH 11 MINUTES TO GO DOWN 5!  We even hold them to a FG and it is a 1 possession game!  I am not claiming any moral victories here, but that 2009 squad was awful. 

People have seemingly lost all sense of perspective.  This game will be competitive.  There will be an opportunity for either team to win it.  Whether KSU seizes that opportunity or not I cannot say, but I watched the oSu game last year and that is about how I expect this game to go.  Down to the last posession.

Enjoy it CAT fans.  Prepare yourself to enjoy it.  This moment has a clear expiration date.

/fatty4ksu
Title: Re: +17
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 17, 2012, 03:06:39 PM
To dax, slmz and all the other negative nancy's:

Yes, we get it.  We are an underdog.  Did you not read the freaking thread title?  WE ARE ALL AWARE!  I don't really know who you think you're talking to with your concern trolls about the team being ready and your pre-emptive melt downs.  If you have lived Big 8, Big 12, Big 12-2 football, you know this matchup.  As _FAN astutely pointed out, this matchup has not been as lopsided as the score suggests!  EVEN IN NORMAN!

Now I also want to bring something else to your attention.  In the Stoops era here are the QB's we've brought to Norman:

2001: Sophomore Ell Roberson
2005: Senior Allen Webb
2009: Senior Grant Gregory
2011: Senior Collin Klein

Which of these is not like the other ones?  A sophomore, two transfer QBs or a 2nd year starter with immense game experience.  Of course the defense has to play well, but we should put up points.  We should control the tempo. 

Look at '09!
We won TOP, had 50% 3rd down conversion (despite giving up 76%!!), converted 66% 4th Down! and 80% in the RZ.  Why did we lose?  The first four possessions of the game OU went 8 plays for 14-0, while Kstate went 6 plays, two punts.  AND WE STILL WERE KICKING OFF WITH 11 MINUTES TO GO DOWN 5!  We even hold them to a FG and it is a 1 possession game!  I am not claiming any moral victories here, but that 2009 squad was awful. 

People have seemingly lost all sense of perspective.  This game will be competitive.  There will be an opportunity for either team to win it.  Whether KSU seizes that opportunity or not I cannot say, but I watched the oSu game last year and that is about how I expect this game to go.  Down to the last posession.

Enjoy it CAT fans.  Prepare yourself to enjoy it.  This moment has a clear expiration date.

KK, you are great.  Don't ever change.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: puniraptor on September 17, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
To dax, slmz and all the other negative nancy's:

Yes, we get it.  We are an underdog.  Did you not read the freaking thread title?  WE ARE ALL AWARE!  I don't really know who you think you're talking to with your concern trolls about the team being ready and your pre-emptive melt downs.  If you have lived Big 8, Big 12, Big 12-2 football, you know this matchup.  As _FAN astutely pointed out, this matchup has not been as lopsided as the score suggests!  EVEN IN NORMAN!

Now I also want to bring something else to your attention.  In the Stoops era here are the QB's we've brought to Norman:

2001: Sophomore Ell Roberson
2005: Senior Allen Webb
2009: Senior Grant Gregory
2011: Senior Collin Klein

Which of these is not like the other ones?  A sophomore, two transfer QBs or a 2nd year starter with immense game experience.  Of course the defense has to play well, but we should put up points.  We should control the tempo. 

Look at '09!
We won TOP, had 50% 3rd down conversion (despite giving up 76%!!), converted 66% 4th Down! and 80% in the RZ.  Why did we lose?  The first four possessions of the game OU went 8 plays for 14-0, while Kstate went 6 plays, two punts.  AND WE STILL WERE KICKING OFF WITH 11 MINUTES TO GO DOWN 5!  We even hold them to a FG and it is a 1 possession game!  I am not claiming any moral victories here, but that 2009 squad was awful. 

People have seemingly lost all sense of perspective.  This game will be competitive.  There will be an opportunity for either team to win it.  Whether KSU seizes that opportunity or not I cannot say, but I watched the oSu game last year and that is about how I expect this game to go.  Down to the last posession.

Enjoy it CAT fans.  Prepare yourself to enjoy it.  This moment has a clear expiration date.

KK, you are great.  Don't ever change.

 :emawkid: :ksu: :lynchmob: :kstatriot:

This post made me feel really nsfw!
Title: Re: +17
Post by: p1k3 on September 17, 2012, 03:12:19 PM
i think KK meant Collin Klein 2012
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Kat Kid on September 17, 2012, 03:13:37 PM
i think KK meant Collin Klein 2012

yeah fixed that.
Title: +17
Post by: kso_FAN on September 17, 2012, 03:16:45 PM
Well done KK. Well done.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: slobber on September 17, 2012, 03:19:28 PM
Sometimes I forget who submitted the post when it is KK or _FAN. Are you guys buddies in real life? If so, can I be friends with you guys, too?

WE GONNA WIN!!!!!
Title: Re: +17
Post by: p1k3 on September 17, 2012, 03:35:20 PM
I really want to win this. Are we going to win?
Title: Re: +17
Post by: p1k3 on September 17, 2012, 03:39:32 PM
I don't think I can handle getting ass mumped by Stoops again  :frown:

At least keep it close, Cats.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 17, 2012, 03:47:45 PM
worth pointing out that soph ell roberson kicked major ass in norman in 01  :love: and we lost by 1
Title: Re: +17
Post by: EMAMFW on September 17, 2012, 04:20:54 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.



have you ever considered maybe being a fan of another school?  I can't imagine how much your life must suck.

There's a fine line between being a fan and a realist.  I tend to agree with Son on this one.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: star seed 7 on September 17, 2012, 04:27:12 PM
MODS can we direct the football team to this thread?  the boys need to tack this up on the bulletin board.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: SdK on September 17, 2012, 04:30:53 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.



have you ever considered maybe being a fan of another school?  I can't imagine how much your life must suck.

GoodForAtuck

Aside from the fact that he didn't follow Nic's rule, what did he type that was wrong?  Have you watched KSU/OU games the last 13 seasons?  Christ man, making obvious observations doesn't mean the man isn't EMAW.  Take that crap to Wabash Station.

And eff you for making me advocate for Dax.

This has been my favorite post of the past week.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: SdK on September 17, 2012, 04:32:32 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.

Yep. The first sentence is why we've lost all but 1 to OU in the Stoops era. The 2nd sentence is why 3 of the last 4 have been blowouts. Our secondary's efforts so far this year don't make me especially hopeful that we can avoid #2. We can hope that Landry is a bit off-sync like he seemed to be against UTEP. Problem is, when all he has to do is throw a little 7-15 yard crossing route that the WR catches then blows by our defensive backs for 6, it's a lot easier to get back into sync.

Here's how we might win Saturday:  lose the toss, receive the ball, good return, 6-minute drive for a TD. OU's not quite in sync on first drive, punts. We drive for a 2nd TD, another 6-minute drive. From there on out, we have no turnovers, force two on OU, have ~37 minute TOP, and try to make them run more than 4-5 plays on their scoring drives.

Second favorite
Title: Re: +17
Post by: AbeFroman on September 17, 2012, 04:36:49 PM
I'll be honest, I was dreading this game until KK posted. Now I'm all  :chainsaw: :curse: :chainsaw: :curse: :chainsaw: :curse: @ the Fighting Boomers.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: cas4ksu on September 17, 2012, 05:08:04 PM
Keys:

Establish some other type of running game other than Klein. Doesn't matter whether or not it is with Hubert or baby Lockett or TT on a reverse. Gotta be able to be multidimensional on the ground.

Pass. I think we can pass really well. Not well enough to throw the ball 30+ times a game. But if we are throwing 20-25 times a game, I like that a lot.

Turnovers. Gotta be +. No way around it.

Penalties. Little things can kill a chance for an upset.

Pressure. I get the fact that we are all about bending and not breaking, but if we play soft zone all day then they are going to eff on us. I really like the idea of getting pressure on Landry early on in the game. Sure he can beat us deep on some plays where we have man on man coverage. But when you are on the road against a team with a considerable advantage in talent, you have to roll the dice.

Wrinkles. Don't have to reinvent the wheel. But if Sams and Baby Lockett aren't getting involved in the offense in some capacity other than traditional ways, then I don't like that.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: EMAWmeister on September 17, 2012, 05:19:19 PM
On NCAA13 Klein is pretty good at quick slants so lets just run quick slants all day ready break
Title: Re: +17
Post by: mancattanite on September 17, 2012, 05:23:20 PM
On NCAA13 Klein is pretty good at quick slants so lets just run quick slants all day ready break

Everybody is good at quick slants on NCAA13...
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Gooch on September 17, 2012, 05:28:00 PM
. . . the fact the head coach and the DC know Snyder inside and out and back again, and likely understand that K-State will come out tight as a snare drum in winter, and the trifecta of Snyder/Dimel/Miller will have outschemed themselves (as usual) particuarly in the first half and so we'll likely look like a train wreck (see 1st half Cotton Bowl). 

Not to mention our bend but don't break defense will allow superior athletes to turn up field and will clownsuit our tacklers.



have you ever considered maybe being a fan of another school?  I can't imagine how much your life must suck.

GoodForAtuck

Aside from the fact that he didn't follow Nic's rule, what did he type that was wrong?  Have you watched KSU/OU games the last 13 seasons?  Christ man, making obvious observations doesn't mean the man isn't EMAW.  Take that crap to Wabash Station.

And eff you for making me advocate for Dax.

I'm not saying he was wrong or right.  I just think it might be healthier for him if he found an easier to school to cheer for.

 :powerespect:

:powerespect:
You can't triple stamp a double stamp and no erasies
Title: Re: +17
Post by: EMAWmeister on September 17, 2012, 05:41:05 PM
On NCAA13 Klein is pretty good at quick slants so lets just run quick slants all day ready break

Everybody is good at quick slants on NCAA13...

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Title: Re: +17
Post by: kitten_mittons on September 17, 2012, 05:52:30 PM
#life > #overdose

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Title: Re: +17
Post by: EMAWesome on September 17, 2012, 07:27:40 PM
To dax, slmz and all the other negative nancy's:

Yes, we get it.  We are an underdog.  Did you not read the freaking thread title?  WE ARE ALL AWARE!  I don't really know who you think you're talking to with your concern trolls about the team being ready and your pre-emptive melt downs.  If you have lived Big 8, Big 12, Big 12-2 football, you know this matchup.  As _FAN astutely pointed out, this matchup has not been as lopsided as the score suggests!  EVEN IN NORMAN!

Now I also want to bring something else to your attention.  In the Stoops era here are the QB's we've brought to Norman:

2001: Sophomore Ell Roberson
2005: Senior Allen Webb
2009: Senior Grant Gregory
2012: Senior Collin Klein

Which of these is not like the other ones?  A sophomore, two transfer QBs or a 2nd year starter with immense game experience.  Of course the defense has to play well, but we should put up points.  We should control the tempo. 

Look at '09!
We won TOP, had 50% 3rd down conversion (despite giving up 76%!!), converted 66% 4th Down! and 80% in the RZ.  Why did we lose?  The first four possessions of the game OU went 8 plays for 14-0, while Kstate went 6 plays, two punts.  AND WE STILL WERE KICKING OFF WITH 11 MINUTES TO GO DOWN 5!  We even hold them to a FG and it is a 1 possession game!  I am not claiming any moral victories here, but that 2009 squad was awful. 

People have seemingly lost all sense of perspective.  This game will be competitive.  There will be an opportunity for either team to win it.  Whether KSU seizes that opportunity or not I cannot say, but I watched the oSu game last year and that is about how I expect this game to go.  Down to the last posession.

Enjoy it CAT fans.  Prepare yourself to enjoy it.  This moment has a clear expiration date.

/fatty4ksu

Didn't OU convert some crazy ass like 3rd & 36 late in that game to salt it away, or score again to make it a 2 score game right before or after Banks housed one? God that game pissed me off.
Title: +17
Post by: Tobias on September 17, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
i'm not gonna stop being excited until ou takes it away from me
Title: Re: +17
Post by: kim carnes on September 17, 2012, 08:32:51 PM
 :curse:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: cas4ksu on September 18, 2012, 12:37:20 AM
Folks,

Be excited and anxious for the game. These moments happen only so often.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: EllToPay on September 18, 2012, 07:47:14 AM
i'm not gonna stop being excited until ou takes it away from me

YES
Title: Re: +17
Post by: slobber on September 18, 2012, 08:28:53 AM
i'm not gonna stop being excited until ou takes it away from me

YES
NO! OU ain't taking crap away from me. I won't let them! :chainsaw: :curse:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 18, 2012, 09:53:00 AM
i'm not gonna stop being excited until ou takes it away from me

YES
NO! OU ain't taking crap away from me. I won't let them! :chainsaw: :curse:

What if OU takes John Hubert's cookies?  What then!  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: +17
Post by: DOD Take 2 on September 18, 2012, 11:53:32 AM
To dax, slmz and all the other negative nancy's:

Yes, we get it.  We are an underdog.  Did you not read the freaking thread title?  WE ARE ALL AWARE!  I don't really know who you think you're talking to with your concern trolls about the team being ready and your pre-emptive melt downs.  If you have lived Big 8, Big 12, Big 12-2 football, you know this matchup.  As _FAN astutely pointed out, this matchup has not been as lopsided as the score suggests!  EVEN IN NORMAN!

Now I also want to bring something else to your attention.  In the Stoops era here are the QB's we've brought to Norman:

2001: Sophomore Ell Roberson
2005: Senior Allen Webb
2009: Senior Grant Gregory
2012: Senior Collin Klein

Which of these is not like the other ones?  A sophomore, two transfer QBs or a 2nd year starter with immense game experience.  Of course the defense has to play well, but we should put up points.  We should control the tempo. 

Look at '09!
We won TOP, had 50% 3rd down conversion (despite giving up 76%!!), converted 66% 4th Down! and 80% in the RZ.  Why did we lose?  The first four possessions of the game OU went 8 plays for 14-0, while Kstate went 6 plays, two punts.  AND WE STILL WERE KICKING OFF WITH 11 MINUTES TO GO DOWN 5!  We even hold them to a FG and it is a 1 possession game!  I am not claiming any moral victories here, but that 2009 squad was awful. 

People have seemingly lost all sense of perspective.  This game will be competitive.  There will be an opportunity for either team to win it.  Whether KSU seizes that opportunity or not I cannot say, but I watched the oSu game last year and that is about how I expect this game to go.  Down to the last posession.

Enjoy it CAT fans.  Prepare yourself to enjoy it.  This moment has a clear expiration date.

/fatty4ksu

Didn't OU convert some crazy ass like 3rd & 36 late in that game to salt it away, or score again to make it a 2 score game right before or after Banks housed one? God that game pissed me off.

I think it was a 1st & 36 or something. I think they ended up converting a 3rd & 24 though with a receiver breaking like 2 tackles and tip-toeing the sideline.
Title: Re: +17
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2012, 01:23:03 PM
Some interesting items:

WVU -28 v. Maryland  (are the Terps horrible?) :horrorsurprise:

Baylor -7 to Monroe (I know they look like a middling sec team but really?)   :confused:

KU +10 to NIU (who almost lost to Army)  :lol:

Cal+17 to USC (if the media wills it, usc is a nc contender)  :jerk:

Yeah Maryland are complete trash.  Randy Edsall will get fired at some point this season and its only his second at UM.  They beat William & Mary at home 7-6.  They just lost a home game to UCONN, the school Edsall ditched for Maryland.  UM is without a doubt worse than Marshall & we know how the WVU game turned out for them.  -28 is easy money, I'm sure that line will increase before kick off.

:flush: good god wvu is grossly overrated
Title: Re: +17
Post by: hemmy on September 22, 2012, 01:40:26 PM
WVU has 1 yard rushing through 3 quarters...what on earth?
Title: Re: +17
Post by: DQ12 on September 22, 2012, 01:43:36 PM
Right now, I really think we have a good chance to beat WVU.

That's a nice thought to have.