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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: MakeItRain on August 31, 2012, 08:22:52 PM
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http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/31/3790621/fox-sports-kc-will-not-carry-k.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/31/3790621/fox-sports-kc-will-not-carry-k.html)
Does this jackass have any idea how many people don't have access to Kansas 22 or Metro Sports?
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currie!! :shakesfist:
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:sdeek:
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**Pulls the FJC shirt out of the closet**
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:sdeek:
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MIR, don't get pissed but I'm going to put out the CC signal because this is very concerning.
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oh man so much butthurt in here guys
so very very much of the butthurt
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are you rough ridin' kidding me???
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season ticket sales must be down, JC thinks this will sell more???
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season ticket sales must be down, JC thinks this will sell more???
Has to be
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You don't know the whole story
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I dont have metro sports :frown:
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:kstategrad:
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eff him and his season tickets.
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compared to running off a coach who does nothing but get in the tourney, this is like a rough ridin' coup. lol @ our resident nazis using this as an outlet for their repressed butthurt.
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MIR, don't get pissed but I'm going to put out the CC signal because this is very concerning.
:confused: why would I be pissed?
It means warm up the credit cards for kstatehd.tv it also likely means a loss of access for Full Court.
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I don't want to watch multiple bball games on kstatetv
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I don't want to watch multiple bball games on kstatetv
I don't want to watch 1 bball game on kstatetv :frown: I want to watch them on regular tv like a bigtime school :frown:
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I don't want to watch multiple bball games on kstatetv
I don't want to watch 1 bball game on kstatetv :frown: on want to watch them on regular tv like a bigtime school :frown:
well yeah. back to wooly days
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The only thing that can salvage this is if he sells the inventory to local affiliates in Kansas and the KC area like KU does with their Jayhawk Network, but they don't have nearly as many tier 3 games. The problem with this is 10 games is a lot to sell to networks with their own primetime shows and special holiday season programming.
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JC is Carl Peterson.
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The only thing that can salvage this is if he sells the inventory to local affiliates in Kansas and the KC area like KU does with their Jayhawk Network, but they don't have nearly as many tier 3 games. The problem with this is 10 games is a lot to sell to networks with their own primetime shows and special holiday season programming.
yeah, I am dumbfounded how they rebound. wtf.
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I'll give the line for the Curriebots before they even give it to save time.
Fox Sports lowballed us, the revenue earned from new kstateHD subscriptions and additional advertising revenue will make up the revenue.
Whomever claims this better be ready with numbers.
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I'll give the line for the Curriebots before they even give it to save time.
Fox Sports lowballed us, the revenue earned from new kstateHD subscriptions and additional advertising revenue will make up the revenue.
Whomever claims this better be ready with numbers.
are we seriously not going to be available on ESPN3 (like we were when FSNKC carried us) when every other rough ridin' conference team is? :frown:
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I'll give the line for the Curriebots before they even give it to save time.
Fox Sports lowballed us, the revenue earned from new kstateHD subscriptions and additional advertising revenue will make up the revenue.
Whomever claims this better be ready with numbers.
That's not even the point. Being on basic cable in the region is worth more in exposure and free advertising than whatever we get selling web subscriptions.
What a rough ridin' chode.
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I'll give the line for the Curriebots before they even give it to save time.
Fox Sports lowballed us, the revenue earned from new kstateHD subscriptions and additional advertising revenue will make up the revenue.
Whomever claims this better be ready with numbers.
That's not even the point. Being on basic cable in the region is worth more in exposure and free advertising than whatever we get selling web subscriptions.
What a rough ridin' chode.
When you don't really care about fielding a winning basketball team, that point just doesn't matter.
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I'll give the line for the Curriebots before they even give it to save time.
Fox Sports lowballed us, the revenue earned from new kstateHD subscriptions and additional advertising revenue will make up the revenue.
Whomever claims this better be ready with numbers.
are we seriously not going to be available on ESPN3 (like we were when FSNKC carried us) when every other rough ridin' conference team is? :frown:
If I see John tomorrow walking around the stadium, I'll ask.
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Trying to limit TV exposure in order to drive up ticket/kstate.hd sales, under the veil of we couldn't make our usual TV contract work, just shows what a snake in the grass JC is. This sums up why so many of our fans dislike him. He makes decisions based on what's best for KSU Athletic's bottom line like KSU Athletics is a company. Well, that's not the purpose of KSU Athletics, the purpose is to bring joy to KSU Cat fans. That's supposed to be his #1 goal, and it's not.
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weber was the 1st straw.
what will be the last??
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you guys know how captaincrap rolls into these types of threads and usually destroys us and tells us it's not like that at all and we're going to have ESPN3 just like we did and local access just like we did and all that? I cannot rough ridin' wait for him to do that. Because I'm really rough ridin' nervous he's not going to. :frown:
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If we still had Frank, I would be on Currie's side here because there would be no reason for FSN to low ball us. Currie hired oscar Weber, though, and while he may not have found any university presidents or AD's who had anything bad to say about oscar, he should have been smart enough to know that tv execs would not agree.
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you guys know how captaincrap rolls into these types of threads and usually destroys us and tells us it's not like that at all and we're going to have ESPN3 just like we did and local access just like we did and all that? I cannot rough ridin' wait for him to do that. Because I'm really rough ridin' nervous he's not going to. :frown:
This is why I love CC. :pray: come and put my in a clown suit.
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you guys know how captaincrap rolls into these types of threads and usually destroys us and tells us it's not like that at all and we're going to have ESPN3 just like we did and local access just like we did and all that? I cannot rough ridin' wait for him to do that. Because I'm really rough ridin' nervous he's not going to. :frown:
This is why I love CC. :pray: come and put my in a clown suit.
I personally cannot wait for him to be all condescending about it and make me feel like a dumbass :excited:
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you guys know how captaincrap rolls into these types of threads and usually destroys us and tells us it's not like that at all and we're going to have ESPN3 just like we did and local access just like we did and all that? I cannot rough ridin' wait for him to do that. Because I'm really rough ridin' nervous he's not going to. :frown:
What if he isn't going to, and we have to wait until rough ridin' november to find out if we can watch our favorite basketball team?
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you guys know how captaincrap rolls into these types of threads and usually destroys us and tells us it's not like that at all and we're going to have ESPN3 just like we did and local access just like we did and all that? I cannot rough ridin' wait for him to do that. Because I'm really rough ridin' nervous he's not going to. :frown:
What if he isn't going to, and we have to wait until rough ridin' november to find out if we can watch our favorite basketball team?
We already know. You can watch the Cats, but it's going to cost you $10 per month and you will need to hook your laptop up to your tv.
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you guys know how captaincrap rolls into these types of threads and usually destroys us and tells us it's not like that at all and we're going to have ESPN3 just like we did and local access just like we did and all that? I cannot rough ridin' wait for him to do that. Because I'm really rough ridin' nervous he's not going to. :frown:
What if he isn't going to, and we have to wait until rough ridin' november to find out if we can watch our favorite basketball team?
that's not going to happen. tell him and make him feel like dogshit cc. TELL HIM.
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you guys know how captaincrap rolls into these types of threads and usually destroys us and tells us it's not like that at all and we're going to have ESPN3 just like we did and local access just like we did and all that? I cannot rough ridin' wait for him to do that. Because I'm really rough ridin' nervous he's not going to. :frown:
This is why I love CC. :pray: come and put my in a clown suit.
I personally cannot wait for him to be all condescending about it and make me feel like a dumbass :excited:
If they end up putting the games on Kansas 22 & Metro Sports they still can and likely will still be on WatchEspn.com. The issue is for the thousands of K-Staters who live in Kansas that will best case scenario have to purchase a Full Court subscription to watch all of the home non-cons, worst case scenario will have to watch the games on the internet. These are acceptable options for EMAWs who live in Seattle, completely unacceptable for EMAWs living in Wichita, Olathe, or Manhattan.
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this thread is dumbass city
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you guys know how captaincrap rolls into these types of threads and usually destroys us and tells us it's not like that at all and we're going to have ESPN3 just like we did and local access just like we did and all that? I cannot rough ridin' wait for him to do that. Because I'm really rough ridin' nervous he's not going to. :frown:
if this doesn't happen then mount 42's gonna erupt at a Panjandrum level
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Burn it the eff down. Walk away and don't turn around when it explodes. Keep your back to it, continue walking, and maybe light up a cigarette or something.
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season ticket sales must be down, JC thinks this will sell more???
just for the record, at this point last year compared to this year we are 14 season tickets a head of where we were last year.
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I guess good thing I got season tickets and a bag on my head or that maybe I'll be in Seattle.
:ksu:
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If they end up putting the games on Kansas 22 & Metro Sports they still can and likely will still be on WatchEspn.com. The issue is for the thousands of K-Staters who live in Kansas that will best case scenario have to purchase a Full Court subscription to watch all of the home non-cons, worst case scenario will have to watch the games on the internet. These are acceptable options for EMAWs who live in Seattle, completely unacceptable for EMAWs living in Wichita, Olathe, or Manhattan.
Yeah, that's why this is so confounding. The entire point of the tier two network coverage is to provide broadcasts for the local region, where the vast majority of our fan base resides.
The K-Statehd thing is ok for what it is, but it's not supposed to take the place of tier two network coverage. There has to be something more to this story, because there is no way JC could possibly think this little in-house tv thing is going to replace a major cable broadcast. And I'd venture to say, that if surveyed, 90% of K-State fans don't have any idea what K-Statehd is, have never used it, and will not use it if it means watching a game on a computer, or involves the gymnastics of hooking a computer up to he TV. Hell, I won't waste my time with this much less my 65 year old parents. And until it's available as a channel on a cable provider, this isn't going to change.
All money aside, we are severly, severly crippling he exposure of the brand and the visibility of the school in the local region. This part blows me, if true.
We really need CaptainCrap to get in here and dress us up in clownsuits right now.
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:kstategrad:
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Just to clarify, is it Learfield or the KSU Athletic Department negotiating? There might be legal seperation between the two but in reality there is influence/agenda setting done by the AD's office to Learfield? I dunno. Just trying to figure out what other option KSU would have that would provide it the exposure that FSKC would. KstateHD is an option, might drive subscriptions (certainly would make it look more profitable which is always good for the ol' resume). We could probably get a few games on NBC or whatever like KU does, but not 10.
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C'mon Bosco!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1_7sACnM3Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=113s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1_7sACnM3Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=113s)
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wow. color me shocked. phase two of operation karate basketball destruction, complete.
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Couple things:
1. Ath Dept, and Currie specifically, are not at all involved in negoations. It is the job of the rights holder (Learfield / K-State Sports Properties) to negotiate on behalf of K-State, they are the ones making/rejecting offers.
2. This is a typical carriage fee negotiation, where both sides want money (Fox wants to keep more, Learfield wants to get more). It is debatable who is causing the hangup, but I have been told there are people in Bramlage that are a little irritated and feel Learfield overplayed their hand by asking for too much. But as in any negotiation, it probably depends on who you talked to about it.
3. Worst case scenario, 3rd tier rights will be Time Warner / Cox for this season and back on FSN next season. All games would still be available on ESPN3 / Watch ESPN / Full Court. And I think Learfield would have some explaining to do for the Ath Dept.
4. This has nothing to do with K-StateHDTV
5. There is still time for one party or another to come back to the table with a counter. My guess is that will happen at some point before the season starts.
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Couple things:
1. Ath Dept, and Currie specifically, are not at all involved in negoations. It is the job of the rights holder (Learfield / K-State Sports Properties) to negotiate on behalf of K-State, they are the ones making/rejecting offers.
2. This is a typical carriage fee negotiation, where both sides want money (Fox wants to keep more, Learfield wants to get more). It is debatable who is causing the hangup, but I have been told there are people in Bramlage that are a little irritated and feel Learfield overplayed their hand by asking for too much. But as in any negotiation, it probably depends on who you talked to about it.
3. Worst case scenario, 3rd tier rights will be Time Warner / Cox for this season and back on FSN next season. All games would still be available on ESPN3 / Watch ESPN / Full Court. And I think Learfield would have some explaining to do for the Ath Dept.
4. This has nothing to do with K-StateHDTV
5. There is still time for one party or another to come back to the table with a counter. My guess is that will happen at some point before the season starts.
look at all the rubes in this thread that don't understand negotiations! :lol: great post as always cc!
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thanks cc
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dumbasses
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LEARFIELD :shakesfist:
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Between switching to WeberBall and being a pain in the ass to watch from Colorado, KSU is really making it hard for me to be a fan if they don't get this crap figured out.
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I bet if Currie and the Athletic Department really want the games on FSN like they have been, they can make that happen.
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Could Learfield just decide they weren't going to have our games broadcasted? I mean, it probably wouldn't be a good deal for them, but could it happen?
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Bet Learfield thought they were gonna get the Frank Martin price. FSNKC was all, "lol, nope"
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I bet if Currie and the Athletic Department really want the games on FSN like they have been, they can make that happen.
nope. their hands are apparently completely tied. just completely. no say whatsoever as to whether or not the bball games get aired on tv for humans to watch or not. seems like quite the deal.
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I bet if Currie and the Athletic Department really want the games on FSN like they have been, they can make that happen.
nope. their hands are apparently completely tied. just completely. no say whatsoever as to whether or not the bball games get aired on tv for humans to watch or not. seems like quite the deal.
they will be on tv. i'll be watching, will you?
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I bet they won't be on TV in Omaha if we don't get something worked out with Fox :frown:
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I bet if Currie and the Athletic Department really want the games on FSN like they have been, they can make that happen.
nope. their hands are apparently completely tied. just completely. no say whatsoever as to whether or not the bball games get aired on tv for humans to watch or not. seems like quite the deal.
they will be on tv. i'll be watching, will you?
of course. i love cats bball. i also have uverse. what channel will they be on kim carnes?
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ALSO WHAT CHANNEL IN OMAHA?
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welp, learfield is now on the list.
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I bet if Currie and the Athletic Department really want the games on FSN like they have been, they can make that happen.
nope. their hands are apparently completely tied. just completely. no say whatsoever as to whether or not the bball games get aired on tv for humans to watch or not. seems like quite the deal.
they will be on tv. i'll be watching, will you?
of course. i love cats bball. i also have uverse. what channel will they be on kim carnes?
drop subscription to uverse in favor of cox. boom. problem solved.
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ALSO WHAT CHANNEL IN OMAHA?
espn3. boom. problem solved.
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I bet if Currie and the Athletic Department really want the games on FSN like they have been, they can make that happen.
nope. their hands are apparently completely tied. just completely. no say whatsoever as to whether or not the bball games get aired on tv for humans to watch or not. seems like quite the deal.
they will be on tv. i'll be watching, will you?
of course. i love cats bball. i also have uverse. what channel will they be on kim carnes?
drop subscription to uverse in favor of cox. boom. problem solved.
wait...so they won't be on my tv? you just said they would be. :confused:
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I bet if Currie and the Athletic Department really want the games on FSN like they have been, they can make that happen.
nope. their hands are apparently completely tied. just completely. no say whatsoever as to whether or not the bball games get aired on tv for humans to watch or not. seems like quite the deal.
they will be on tv. i'll be watching, will you?
of course. i love cats bball. i also have uverse. what channel will they be on kim carnes?
drop subscription to uverse in favor of cox. boom. problem solved.
wait...so they won't be on my tv? you just said they would be. :confused:
i said they would be on tv. they will be, i am right.
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Just imagine how much more concerned RD would be had we hired a coach he didn't hate.
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I bet if Currie and the Athletic Department really want the games on FSN like they have been, they can make that happen.
nope. their hands are apparently completely tied. just completely. no say whatsoever as to whether or not the bball games get aired on tv for humans to watch or not. seems like quite the deal.
they will be on tv. i'll be watching, will you?
of course. i love cats bball. i also have uverse. what channel will they be on kim carnes?
drop subscription to uverse in favor of cox. boom. problem solved.
wait...so they won't be on my tv? you just said they would be. :confused:
i said they would be on tv. they will be, i am right.
i don't know kim carnes. it seems like being a kansas state basketball fan is becoming pretty hard. do i need a special tv too? roku box?
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Just imagine how much more concerned RD would be had we hired a coach he didn't hate.
i'd be at the games if that was the case.
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LEARFIELD :shakesfist:
nominated, cosign
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Just imagine how much more concerned RD would be had we hired a coach he didn't hate.
we're all cats fans, i get it.
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great stuff, guys.
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I'll give the line for the Curriebots before they even give it to save time.
Fox Sports lowballed us, the revenue earned from new kstateHD subscriptions and additional advertising revenue will make up the revenue.
Whomever claims this better be ready with numbers.
That's not even the point. Being on basic cable in the region is worth more in exposure and free advertising than whatever we get selling web subscriptions.
What a rough ridin' chode.
I live in KC and don't get Metro Sports. eff you, John Currie.
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Also, I will prolly have to switch to Time Warner, now. Well played John Currie, well played.
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I wonder what this means when my elite neighborhood gets Google Fiber!
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Everest/Surewest, we had a good run...
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Pete, if you're gonna insist on being a bitch about this, send your filthy emails to K-State Sports Properties, a division of Learfield Sports at 1800 College Avenue, Manhattan, KS 66502. DO NOT send them to the K-State Athletic Department at 1800 College Avenue, Manhattan, KS 66502.
http://learfieldsports.com/university-partners/k-state-sports-properties/
http://www.kstatesports.com/feedback/ksu-feedback.html
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Pete, if you're gonna insist on being a bitch about this, send your filthy emails to K-State Sports Properties, a division of Learfield Sports at 1800 College Avenue, Manhattan, KS 66502. DO NOT send them to the K-State Athletic Department at 1800 College Avenue, Manhattan, KS 66502.
http://learfieldsports.com/university-partners/k-state-sports-properties/
http://www.kstatesports.com/feedback/ksu-feedback.html
I wonder if they know how much they are going to piss off Kansas City.
Prez Shulz is going to love this.
Oh, the KC Catbackers should be a delight this year as well.
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Pete, if you're gonna insist on being a bitch about this, send your filthy emails to K-State Sports Properties, a division of Learfield Sports at 1800 College Avenue, Manhattan, KS 66502. DO NOT send them to the K-State Athletic Department at 1800 College Avenue, Manhattan, KS 66502.
http://learfieldsports.com/university-partners/k-state-sports-properties/
http://www.kstatesports.com/feedback/ksu-feedback.html
I wonder if they know how much they are going to piss off Kansas City.
Prez Shulz is going to love this.
Oh, the KC Catbackers should be a delight this year as well.
Unless you plan on attending a KC Learfieldbackers event, it really shouldn't be an issue.
LEARFIELD!!! :shakesfist:
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Tomorrow night I cannot attend, but THE Tim Fitzgerald is the guest.
He is a media type who might be able to help Cat fans, and become a hero.
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Tomorrow night I cannot attend, but THE Tim Fitzgerald is the guest.
He is a media type who might be able to help Cat fans, and become a hero.
Maybe he'll offer himself and DJamer Wally's services to do pirated hoops broadcasts emanating from a Salina studio. :dunno:
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Tomorrow night I cannot attend, but THE Tim Fitzgerald is the guest.
He is a media type who might be able to help Cat fans, and become a hero.
Maybe he'll offer himself and DJamer Wally's services to do pirated hoops broadcasts emanating from a Salina studio. :dunno:
Good idea, but they would need to be prerecorded and extremely fast paced. Not sure it would work.
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Can you get espn3, Pete? eff those Learfield dickheads.
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Tomorrow night I cannot attend, but THE Tim Fitzgerald is the guest.
He is a media type who might be able to help Cat fans, and become a hero.
Maybe he'll offer himself and DJamer Wally's services to do pirated hoops broadcasts emanating from a Salina studio. :dunno:
Good idea, but they would need to be prerecorded and extremely fast paced. Not sure it would work.
These are the guys who accurately predicted Jeff Luc to the Cats and Tay Bender backing up Klein. You think they can't forecast some measly hoops games?
DJDT already has some practice footage. Chop that up into some highlights with Drizzy in the background to simulate a full game into a down and dirty half-hour. Boom. eff you Learfield, GPC has it covered.
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Still don't get how john currie allows a large portion of the alumni base to be blacked out.
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Still don't get how john currie allows a large portion of the alumni base to be blacked out.
It's Learfield, dumbass. John Currie's only one man. Even he can't take down Learfield.
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Can you get espn3, Pete? eff those Learfield dickheads.
I cannot. Surewest doesn't offer it. They have been living on borrowed time with me (they don't have HBOgo either).
Learfield may actually be doing me a favor here.
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I hate the way Wyatt pronounces "Learfield Sports"
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I hate the way Wyatt pronounces "Learfield Sports" announces.
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I love Wyatt
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Man oh man . . . let's just call CC "The Sniper"
Blam . . . headshot . . . Blam . . . headshot
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Let's leave the Currie issue aside for minute, how is everyone not upset about the potential of K-State fans not being able to see the games? I struggle to comprehend the myriad posts I'm reading here and on GPC where people are actually arguing that it is better to have less visibility in the hopes that the AD gets a few more bucks.
The boot-licking deference to power even when weighed against their own best interest is impossible for me to understand. I will never understand it. We are not consumers to be manipulated for the profits of the Athletics Department, we are alumni that should have an Athletics Department that serves US. Why the hell is this hard for people? Its like we are so used to dysfunction that we don't even understand how things are supposed to work.
I hope we hear that this is resolved and FSN is back. But this is just another episode that has pulled back the curtain on the mindset of some (most?!) of our fans, and it actively hurts them, you and I. I'm not sure who really benefits, because again it strains all possible definitions to claim that it "benefits" the Athletics Dept. because THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OURS!
Trim said it best (paraphrase):
WE are K-State. You're just some guy who gets a paycheck from US.
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Trim said it best (paraphrase):
WE are K-State. You're just some guy who gets a paycheck from US.
I never considered an all-powerful 3rd party (Learfield).
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I had planned on switching from Cox to Directv to get the NFL deal but I'd hate to not be able to watch 10 freakin Cat games. eff Currie/Leerfield/whoever else is responsible for us being regulated to freaking cox 22. What will they do when WSU has a big volleyball that conflicts with one of our games?! :ohno:
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I had planned on switching from Cox to Directv to get the NFL deal but I'd hate to not be able to watch 10 freakin Cat games. eff Currie/Leerfield/whoever else is responsible for us being regulated to freaking cox 22. What will they do when WSU has a big volleyball that conflicts with one of our games?! :ohno:
GPC would like you to know that it isn't that important because it is only 10 icky non-con games that no one cares about and if you cared about it enough you'd find a way to watch the games so get over it and we will make tons of money and party and it will be awesome when we can finally compete with the big boys with our awesome comcast/KAKE contract for millions of dollars.
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I'm more likely to go to a bar on Sunday to watch the NFL than I am to go on a Tuesday night to watch the Cats play Savannah State. eff this crap, now I gotta stick with Cox. Wonder how much Leerfield got from them to make this deal...l
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JT, you'd be a moron not to get Directv. Also the "deal" with MetroSports and/or Kansas 22 is not done they were just speculated as potential suitors. Real being real both networks have plenty of inventory including 22 having WSU games already. As much as we think they should be, if there is a conflict between a game that is already contracted and a KSU game that isn't contracted, KSU is getting tape delayed or not shown at all.
Honestly the only way this is getting saved is if we get the FSKC deal back and get it back this season ASAP. I don't watch them but we've already lost an episode of The LHC Bill Snyder Show, I do watch volleyball and we only have one televised match scheduled and that's an ESPNU match at flood aggy.
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Baseball KHATZ play on FSKC sometimes
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The boot-licking deference to power even when weighed against their own best interest is impossible for me to understand.
One thing I've learned about a lot of K-State fans outside of this forum is that they were raised to always be deferential to those higher up than them, to shut up and be productive in your own life and not complain about what the boss is doing because they clearly know what they're doing if they got that position (in their minds). It's not because these tucks are inferior human beings, it's because they grew up in an environment where questioning authority was rarely encouraged. It makes sense especially for those who come off the farm to K-State because if you grow up in an agricultural and/or rural environment, you don't have a lot of time or opportunities to question one decision or another. What's more baffling is when kids who grew up in suburban or urban KC come to K-State and adopt the same mindset.
There are other parts of the country where this mindset occurs, but it seems to be especially strong with K-Staters. KU 'tucks, on the other hand, whine all the goddamn time about what their athletic department's doing. They'll eat their own so damned quickly it'll make your head spin. A vast majority of KU people come from urban environments like KC, Omaha, STL, Chicago, etc., so it makes sense; questioning authority is always more common in urban environments than rural ones.
Of course, not all K-Staters who come from rural and/or agricultural backgrounds are going to always be deferential to bad decisions made by the athletic department and/or the university. This forum is evidence of that. But we're outnumbered by those who are, and I think that should be pretty obvious by now to everyone. It's the nature of the beast, and it's something we're always going to have to deal with as K-State fans.
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Is it any better to think that your opinion regarding how John Currie's job should be done, as officially stated on goEMAW, actually amounts to something?
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Is it any better to think that your opinion regarding how John Currie's job should be done, as officially stated on goEMAW, actually amounts to something?
Good question. One thing that's common with all FBS athletic departments is that the fans who aren't big donors don't matter unless everyone jumps ship en masse, and even then that's no guarantee of regime change (see: CU, Maryland).
On the other hand, the Fire Prince plane banner was pretty effective.
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EMAW Against The Machine
:pikeboner:
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Is it any better to think that your opinion regarding how John Currie's job should be done, as officially stated on goEMAW, actually amounts to something?
I think a three pronged attack of angry message board posts, heckling at basketball games and online ms paint/meme mockery is all I'm willing to commit to. If that doesn't work, then I don't know what possibly would.
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If that doesn't work, then I don't know what possibly would.
domestic terrorism.
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Tree poisoning
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high blood pressure
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LEARFIELD :curse:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20120913_93_0_Wheels408198 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20120913_93_0_Wheels408198)
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LEARFIELD :curse:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20120913_93_0_Wheels408198 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20120913_93_0_Wheels408198)
:surprised:
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2012-13/quick_facts/quick_facts.pdf
KSU appears to have taken down the corresponding 11-12 version, as the link on this page goes to the Hawaii bracket, but I've got it printed and it's funny to see the TV column side by side. I'll scan and post it later.
http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/092711aaa.html
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LEARFIELD :curse:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20120913_93_0_Wheels408198 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20120913_93_0_Wheels408198)
LOL. What a clusterfuck this is.
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fix this, pencilneck.
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LEARFIELD :curse:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20120913_93_0_Wheels408198 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20120913_93_0_Wheels408198)
:surprised:
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2012-13/quick_facts/quick_facts.pdf
KSU appears to have taken down the corresponding 11-12 version, as the link on this page goes to the Hawaii bracket, but I've got it printed and it's funny to see the TV column side by side. I'll scan and post it later.
http://kstatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/092711aaa.html
:curse:
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if KSU athletics had an embassy in Austin, I'd storm the crap out of it right now :shakesfist:
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if KSU athletics had an embassy in Austin, I'd storm the crap out of it right now :shakesfist:
I'd join you.
:chainsaw:
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Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
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Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
Credit will remain with the passionate fans at goEMAW.com, thank you very much.
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Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
:thumbs: good news
Did he rip Learfield's ass?
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Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
Credit will remain with the passionate fans at goEMAW.com, thank you very much.
:rolleyes:
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John, good job getting your team on tv. I mean, that is something that is rare these days. When the standard for a high level team is to be simply reviewed in the newspaper the next day, you are taking it to the next level and making sure that a third tier cable channel actually shows the games rather than there being nothing.
I want to commend you on such a high level of performance.
If you aren't too worn out and your schedule allows, could you please tackle chewing gum while walking next? TIA
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If this gets worked out, I'm giving all the credit to Learfield and not Currie so cc will keep thinking I'm an ungrateful reactionary dumbass. It's the best thing for goEMAW if I keep that going.
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John, good job getting your team on tv. I mean, that is something that is rare these days. When the standard for a high level team is to be simply reviewed in the newspaper the next day, you are taking it to the next level and making sure that a third tier cable channel actually shows the games rather than there being nothing.
I want to commend you on such a high level of performance.
If you aren't too worn out and your schedule allows, could you please tackle chewing gum while walking next? TIA
Good one.
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Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
Thank you for responding here CC.
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currie is clearly a hero
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Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
:thumbs: good news
Did he rip Learfield's ass?
Yep, he yelled all the way down the hall for the Learfield dudes to get the deal done.
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currie is clearly a hero
Don't like this one as much as the other one, but keep em coming. I have high expectations of you guys.
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Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
:thumbs: good news
Did he rip Learfield's ass?
Yep, he yelled all the way down the hall for the Learfield dudes to get the deal done.
Meh, I like the different angle, but not enough venom. Keep at it, though!
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I wonder what kind of poster CC would be if he wasn't busy being all insidery and stuff
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I wonder what kind of poster CC would be if he wasn't busy being all insidery and stuff
probably close to _FAN but with more of an edge
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cc, would you be able to later say how this was hashed out or maybe PM me the details? I'm just curious how Currie came through here. Hard to congratulate him without details.
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Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
:thumbs: good news
Did he rip Learfield's ass?
Yep, he yelled all the way down the hall for the Learfield dudes to get the deal done.
Meh, I like the different angle, but not enough venom. Keep at it, though!
I save venom for the actual dude (that's a cowboy/western reference, isn't it?) at nutPAKs.
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cc, would you be able to later say how this was hashed out or maybe PM me the details? I'm just curious how Currie came through here. Hard to congratulate him without details.
I'll PM you.
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cc, would you be able to later say how this was hashed out or maybe PM me the details? I'm just curious how Currie came through here. Hard to congratulate him without details.
After deal is announced
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cc, would you be able to later say how this was hashed out or maybe PM me the details? I'm just curious how Currie came through here. Hard to congratulate him without details.
After deal is announced
thanks
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I wonder what kind of poster CC would be if he wasn't busy being all insidery and stuff
probably close to _FAN but with more of an edge
Edgier than this: !!!!STATS NERD ALERT!!!!
We've clearly kept our coverage teams vanilla the first two weeks in anticipation of our date in Manhattan.
Leave it to McCarney to come up with a stroke (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/dan-mccarney-suffered-stroke-thinks-vodka-him-feel-175611451.html) of genius like that.
I don't think so.
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I wonder what kind of poster CC would be if he wasn't busy being all insidery and stuff
probably close to _FAN but with more of an edge
Edgier than this: !!!!STATS NERD ALERT!!!!
We've clearly kept our coverage teams vanilla the first two weeks in anticipation of our date in Manhattan.
Leave it to McCarney to come up with a stroke (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/dan-mccarney-suffered-stroke-thinks-vodka-him-feel-175611451.html) of genius like that.
I don't think so.
I mean like more on average. _FAN's zingers are a surprise death ray from space.
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Couple things:
1. Ath Dept, and Currie specifically, are not at all involved in negoations. It is the job of the rights holder (Learfield / K-State Sports Properties) to negotiate on behalf of K-State, they are the ones making/rejecting offers.
Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
"I do want the credit, without any of the blame."
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Potato, potahto.
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Couple things:
1. Ath Dept, and Currie specifically, are not at all involved in negoations. It is the job of the rights holder (Learfield / K-State Sports Properties) to negotiate on behalf of K-State, they are the ones making/rejecting offers.
Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
"I do want the credit, without any of the blame."
Ooh, you're very close. Keep thinking!
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We are kind of melting down about something totally different now, but thanks for checking in, CC.
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We are kind of melting down about something totally different now, but thanks for checking in, CC.
orly? I've been away, what have i missed
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We are kind of melting down about something totally different now, but thanks for checking in, CC.
orly? I've been away, what have i missed
see the ATTN! thread on the football board
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hot damn cc is great. totally would be a ridiculous smartass semi version of _fan.
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Couple things:
1. Ath Dept, and Currie specifically, are not at all involved in negoations. It is the job of the rights holder (Learfield / K-State Sports Properties) to negotiate on behalf of K-State, they are the ones making/rejecting offers.
Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
"I do want the credit, without any of the blame."
Ooh, you're very close. Keep thinking!
"I want some of the credit, without any of the blame." :dunno:
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If Ben Boyle gets shitcanned, I'd like to find a place for him at goEMAW. Maybe he could be the EMAWprentice. :dunno:
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What changed from 01Sep2012 when you said Currie specifically was not involved in the negotiations to now him deserving credit for an agreement? Did he send a contract that both sides would be agreeable to via Western Union Dillon's Trash Executive Service?
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What changed from 01Sep2012 when you said Currie specifically was not involved in the negotiations to now him deserving credit for an agreement? Did he send a contract that both sides would be agreeable to via Western Union Dillon's Trash Executive Service?
i'm going to guess that he got involved with the negotiations. this is rocket science so don't worry about looking dumb.
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If you took from this:
"1. Ath Dept, and Currie specifically, are not at all involved in negoations. It is the job of the rights holder (Learfield / K-State Sports Properties) to negotiate on behalf of K-State, they are the ones making/rejecting offers."
That John Currie was getting ready to get involved and save the day, you are indeed a rocket surgeon and are way smarter than me. Apologies.
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I wonder what kind of poster CC would be if he wasn't busy being all insidery and stuff
probably close to _FAN but with more of an edge
Edgier than this: !!!!STATS NERD ALERT!!!!
We've clearly kept our coverage teams vanilla the first two weeks in anticipation of our date in Manhattan.
Leave it to McCarney to come up with a stroke (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/dan-mccarney-suffered-stroke-thinks-vodka-him-feel-175611451.html) of genius like that.
I don't think so.
I mean like more on average. _FAN's zingers are a surprise death ray from space.
:lol:
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I wonder if currie offered to have KSU take a smaller chunk to get us the FSN deal done
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Reported today that 3 other Big 12 schools got their 3rd tier deals done with Fox. I'm glad Currie moved mountains to make us the 4th!
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I wonder if currie offered to have KSU take a smaller chunk to get us the FSN deal done
I will retract some hate if this is the case.
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I wonder if currie offered to have KSU take a smaller chunk to get us the FSN deal done
I will retract some hate if this is the case.
Didn't even take an airplane banner threat this time.
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If you took from this:
"1. Ath Dept, and Currie specifically, are not at all involved in negoations. It is the job of the rights holder (Learfield / K-State Sports Properties) to negotiate on behalf of K-State, they are the ones making/rejecting offers."
That John Currie was getting ready to get involved and save the day, you are indeed a rocket surgeon and are way smarter than me. Apologies.
no, i took cc saying he wasn't involved in the past when things weren't getting done, to cc now saying adjc has been involved in helping get things done, to mean that adjc got involved and helped get things moving towards resolution.
tin foil hats are popular around here but i've got a beautiful head of hair (i'm in sales) and refuse to wear them.
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Reported today that 3 other Big 12 schools got their 3rd tier deals done with Fox. I'm glad Currie moved mountains to make us the 4th!
Excellent, but not my fave. Keep at it!
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If you took from this:
"1. Ath Dept, and Currie specifically, are not at all involved in negoations. It is the job of the rights holder (Learfield / K-State Sports Properties) to negotiate on behalf of K-State, they are the ones making/rejecting offers."
That John Currie was getting ready to get involved and save the day, you are indeed a rocket surgeon and are way smarter than me. Apologies.
no, i took cc saying he wasn't involved in the past when things weren't getting done, to cc now saying adjc has been involved in helping get things done, to mean that adjc got involved and helped get things moving towards resolution.
tin foil hats are popular around here but i've got a beautiful head of hair (i'm in sales) and refuse to wear them.
Pro-tip: Exacerbates your Bell's palsy-ness (that you don't have :thumbsup:). Less hair makes your head look smaller and therefore less obese. :thumbs:
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Reported today that 3 other Big 12 schools got their 3rd tier deals done with Fox. I'm glad Currie moved mountains to make us the 4th!
Excellent, but not my fave. Keep at it!
Hey, I'm just looking forward to the story of Currie's heroic efforts on this issue.
OT: any chance he'll fight me in a big event inside the former OOD or somewhere with all proceeds going to the winner's charity (#fatty4ksu)?
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If you took from this:
"1. Ath Dept, and Currie specifically, are not at all involved in negoations. It is the job of the rights holder (Learfield / K-State Sports Properties) to negotiate on behalf of K-State, they are the ones making/rejecting offers."
That John Currie was getting ready to get involved and save the day, you are indeed a rocket surgeon and are way smarter than me. Apologies.
no, i took cc saying he wasn't involved in the past when things weren't getting done, to cc now saying adjc has been involved in helping get things done, to mean that adjc got involved and helped get things moving towards resolution.
tin foil hats are popular around here but i've got a beautiful head of hair (i'm in sales) and refuse to wear them.
Pro-tip: Exacerbates your Bell's palsy-ness (that you don't have :thumbsup:). Less hair makes your head look smaller and therefore less obese. :thumbs:
during/after chicago =MODS=PAK, i've grown a beard because of how great michigancat looked with his. even more hair = even less bell's.
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Man, maybe I'll blow out a beard?
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Reported today that 3 other Big 12 schools got their 3rd tier deals done with Fox. I'm glad Currie moved mountains to make us the 4th!
Excellent, but not my fave. Keep at it!
CC,
In your opinion, what are the odds that I will be able to see my KSU cats on KC airwaves without changing my cable provider?
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If you took from this:
"1. Ath Dept, and Currie specifically, are not at all involved in negoations. It is the job of the rights holder (Learfield / K-State Sports Properties) to negotiate on behalf of K-State, they are the ones making/rejecting offers."
That John Currie was getting ready to get involved and save the day, you are indeed a rocket surgeon and are way smarter than me. Apologies.
no, i took cc saying he wasn't involved in the past when things weren't getting done, to cc now saying adjc has been involved in helping get things done, to mean that adjc got involved and helped get things moving towards resolution.
tin foil hats are popular around here but i've got a beautiful head of hair (i'm in sales) and refuse to wear them.
Pro-tip: Exacerbates your Bell's palsy-ness (that you don't have :thumbsup:). Less hair makes your head look smaller and therefore less obese. :thumbs:
during/after chicago =MODS=PAK, i've grown a beard because of how great michigancat looked with his. even more hair = even less bell's.
Fighting fire with fire. :thumbs:
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Well, when I read Kansas State University Athletic Director John Currie's last newsletter. Because, well, unlike some I actually pay attention and understand that you can find out lots of stuff on this crazy Internet thingy . . . you know, instead of rehashing dumbass "Fire Snyder" threads from 2010 . . . but I digress.
Had you read the newsletter completely, you would have noticed this:
5:30 p.m. - I arrive back at the DFW airport to meet with Learfield Sports executive VP Andy Rawlings. Learfield Sports is our multi-media rights holder and partner. It does a great job managing our corporate partnerships, our signage and videoboard, as well as the radio network and third-tier TV. In those rapidly evolving areas there is always much to catch up on and strategize about.
Now, being a brilliant mind, I quickly told myself, "You know Dax, I bet that John Currie's talking about that whole Fox Sports KC thing with that Andy Rawling's guy from Learfield." That's just how I roll. I kept it myself so I could then :lol: as the Too Cool for School crowd continued their usual inane and infantile meltdown in this thread.
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Good job posting that when you read it daxdumbass
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Good job posting that when you read it daxdumbass
Don't be mad.
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T-Y, lukeoflukeluke.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.msg595161#msg595161
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.msg595167#msg595167
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Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
So it wasn't the AD's fault when this crap got stupid, but now that it's going to get fixed it's all to Curries credit?
hmmmmmm....seems a lot like the religious people/God dynamic... :barf:
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T-Y, lukeoflukeluke.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.msg595161#msg595161
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.msg595167#msg595167
That's the football board, and posted with no comment . . . BFD.
Word
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T-Y, lukeoflukeluke.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.msg595161#msg595161
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.msg595167#msg595167
That's the football board, and posted with no comment . . . BFD.
Word
Let's just sit tight until we hear about the herculean efforts made by John Currie to wrest back control from the evil Learfield people down the hall and make the same deal 1/3 of the rest of the conference just did as well. I'm just glad we had a hand in motivating this reversal of fortune.
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T-Y, lukeoflukeluke.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.msg595161#msg595161
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.msg595167#msg595167
That's the football board, and posted with no comment . . . BFD.
Word
Let's just sit tight until we hear about the herculean efforts made by John Currie to wrest back control from the evil Learfield people down the hall and make the same deal 1/3 of the rest of the conference just did as well. I'm just glad we had a hand in motivating this reversal of fortune.
Okay
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Man, maybe I'll blow out a beard?
i haven't shaved in close to two weeks now. :dance:
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Man, maybe I'll blow out a beard?
i haven't shaved in close to two weeks now. :dance:
:surprised:
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michigancat!
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If you took from this:
"1. Ath Dept, and Currie specifically, are not at all involved in negoations. It is the job of the rights holder (Learfield / K-State Sports Properties) to negotiate on behalf of K-State, they are the ones making/rejecting offers."
That John Currie was getting ready to get involved and save the day, you are indeed a rocket surgeon and are way smarter than me. Apologies.
no, i took cc saying he wasn't involved in the past when things weren't getting done, to cc now saying adjc has been involved in helping get things done, to mean that adjc got involved and helped get things moving towards resolution.
tin foil hats are popular around here but i've got a beautiful head of hair (i'm in sales) and refuse to wear them.
Well Mr. Clams & CC the $56.29 question is if this is about Currie riding in to save the day, why didn't it happen sooner? We have already lost programming because the FSKC deal isn't done. This is why when this was brought up two weeks ago and we were led to believe that Currie had no control we gave a collective :rolleyes:
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i don't know any more than anyone else here but since you asked, i'll give you my guess as to what took place. but first it's important to clear up an issue in your post. cc never posted that currie had no control, he posted that it wasn't currie who was negotiating with fox sports. i hope you never thought that currie had no control, you seem smarter than that. anyway, there's a difference there which i'm sure you're able to discern.
here's my guess as to what happened-
fact- learfield owns negotiating responsibilities as our rights holder.
guess- currie trusted that they would come to an agreement with fox sports to work out a deal and stayed out of it.
fact- learfield and fox sports didn't come to an agreement. learfield asked for too much.
guess- currie underestimated learfields ability to negotiate a deal.
guess- currie, two weeks ago and once it came out that the two sides weren't able to work out a deal, began pressuring learfield to get a deal done. while he can't negotiate w/ fox sports, he can certainly negotiate with learfield as it relates to K-State and Learfield's future relationship together.
guess- learfield, reacting to currie's involvement and pressure, went back to the table with fox sports with more reasonable terms for both sides.
guess- the situation will be resolved in short order. and it very well may have been worked out w/o adjc's involvement. or maybe not.
does any of this really matter, it's resolved. sorry you missed out on a vball game.
:dunno:
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Its cool that it got worked out but is also BS that the deal got botched originally. Kinda casts a bit of doubt on our relationship with Learfield.
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Its cool that it got worked out but is also BS that the deal got botched originally. Kinda casts a bit of doubt on our relationship with Learfield.
it's really not a big deal, this happens all the time. did you know that i missed an episode of the bachelor this summer when kc's local ABC affiliate owner, hearst, couldn't come to terms with time warner? it sucked.
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Yeah, I guess there is a decent amount of chicken being played in the TV world. Still pissed though.
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GODDAMMIT CURRIE FIRED FRANK WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT HE SUCKS MAN TV crap MAN eff OFF CURRIE NOW eff OFF
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Yeah, thats about right.
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i don't know any more than anyone else here but since you asked, i'll give you my guess as to what took place. but first it's important to clear up an issue in your post. cc never posted that currie had no control, he posted that it wasn't currie who was negotiating with fox sports. i hope you never thought that currie had no control, you seem smarter than that. anyway, there's a difference there which i'm sure you're able to discern.
here's my guess as to what happened-
fact- learfield owns negotiating responsibilities as our rights holder.
guess- currie trusted that they would come to an agreement with fox sports to work out a deal and stayed out of it.
fact- learfield and fox sports didn't come to an agreement. learfield asked for too much.
guess- currie underestimated learfields ability to negotiate a deal.
guess- currie, two weeks ago and once it came out that the two sides weren't able to work out a deal, began pressuring learfield to get a deal done. while he can't negotiate w/ fox sports, he can certainly negotiate with learfield as it relates to K-State and Learfield's future relationship together.
guess- learfield, reacting to currie's involvement and pressure, went back to the table with fox sports with more reasonable terms for both sides.
guess- the situation will be resolved in short order. and it very well may have been worked out w/o adjc's involvement. or maybe not.
does any of this really matter, it's resolved. sorry you missed out on a vball game.
:dunno:
It's not worked out yet.
The point of the question was why didn't your obvious scenario happen a month ago.. Currie, Learfield, FSKC, you, Ben Boyle, Joe Montgomery, cc, et al should be sorry I missed a volleyball match.
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Its cool that it got worked out but is also BS that the deal got botched originally.
If a deal got done, then it didn't get botched. I mean, it could have been done earlier, but welcome to the business world. Negotiations are fluid, and frankly, since nobody has any rough ridin' idea what representations were being made by Fox, Learfield, or JC, speculating one way or another is kinda Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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i don't know any more than anyone else here but since you asked, i'll give you my guess as to what took place. but first it's important to clear up an issue in your post. cc never posted that currie had no control, he posted that it wasn't currie who was negotiating with fox sports. i hope you never thought that currie had no control, you seem smarter than that. anyway, there's a difference there which i'm sure you're able to discern.
here's my guess as to what happened-
fact- learfield owns negotiating responsibilities as our rights holder.
guess- currie trusted that they would come to an agreement with fox sports to work out a deal and stayed out of it.
fact- learfield and fox sports didn't come to an agreement. learfield asked for too much.
guess- currie underestimated learfields ability to negotiate a deal.
guess- currie, two weeks ago and once it came out that the two sides weren't able to work out a deal, began pressuring learfield to get a deal done. while he can't negotiate w/ fox sports, he can certainly negotiate with learfield as it relates to K-State and Learfield's future relationship together.
guess- learfield, reacting to currie's involvement and pressure, went back to the table with fox sports with more reasonable terms for both sides.
guess- the situation will be resolved in short order. and it very well may have been worked out w/o adjc's involvement. or maybe not.
does any of this really matter, it's resolved. sorry you missed out on a vball game.
:dunno:
It's not worked out yet.
The point of the question was why didn't your obvious scenario happen a month ago.. Currie, Learfield, FSKC, you, Ben Boyle, Joe Montgomery, cc, et al should be sorry I missed a volleyball match.
my guess as to why it didn't happen a month ago, currie underestimated how badly learfield would screw up the negotiation. as soon as he realized the issue, he addressed it and (hopefully) things are fixed in short order. not sure what else he could have done, maybe sent a message to learfield in advance of the negotiation telling them not to screw it up.
in my earlier post, i mentioned that ABC was in the same situation with TWC in KC. the first thing ABC did was start a media blitz blaming TWC for not renewing the deal with them. that makes the other side (TWC, or Learfield in our case) look bad. curries phone starts ringing off the hook, he starts pushing buttons at Learfield, and things start getting done.
robinette got used to further Fox Sports agenda (notice is was their release that he quoted in the article, even though negotations were still taking place) and gain them leverage in the negotiations. like CC said, this stuff happens a lot, and will happen more and more.
i love watching ksu cats vball as much as anyone and share in your pain, having missed the televised game of suzie fritz and co.
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i don't know any more than anyone else here but since you asked, i'll give you my guess as to what took place. but first it's important to clear up an issue in your post. cc never posted that currie had no control, he posted that it wasn't currie who was negotiating with fox sports. i hope you never thought that currie had no control, you seem smarter than that. anyway, there's a difference there which i'm sure you're able to discern.
here's my guess as to what happened-
fact- learfield owns negotiating responsibilities as our rights holder.
guess- currie trusted that they would come to an agreement with fox sports to work out a deal and stayed out of it.
fact- learfield and fox sports didn't come to an agreement. learfield asked for too much.
guess- currie underestimated learfields ability to negotiate a deal.
guess- currie, two weeks ago and once it came out that the two sides weren't able to work out a deal, began pressuring learfield to get a deal done. while he can't negotiate w/ fox sports, he can certainly negotiate with learfield as it relates to K-State and Learfield's future relationship together.
guess- learfield, reacting to currie's involvement and pressure, went back to the table with fox sports with more reasonable terms for both sides.
guess- the situation will be resolved in short order. and it very well may have been worked out w/o adjc's involvement. or maybe not.
does any of this really matter, it's resolved. sorry you missed out on a vball game.
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It's not worked out yet.
The point of the question was why didn't your obvious scenario happen a month ago.. Currie, Learfield, FSKC, you, Ben Boyle, Joe Montgomery, cc, et al should be sorry I missed a volleyball match.
my guess as to why it didn't happen a month ago, currie underestimated how badly learfield would screw up the negotiation. as soon as he realized the issue, he addressed it and (hopefully) things are fixed in short order. not sure what else he could have done, maybe sent a message to learfield in advance of the negotiation telling them not to screw it up.
in my earlier post, i mentioned that ABC was in the same situation with TWC in KC. the first thing ABC did was start a media blitz blaming TWC for not renewing the deal with them. that makes the other side (TWC, or Learfield in our case) look bad. curries phone starts ringing off the hook, he starts pushing buttons at Learfield, and things start getting done.
robinette got used to further Fox Sports agenda (notice is was their release that he quoted in the article, even though negotations were still taking place) and gain them leverage in the negotiations. like CC said, this stuff happens a lot, and will happen more and more.
i love watching ksu cats vball as much as anyone and share in your pain, having missed the televised game of suzie fritz and co.
see how much more fun you are when you remove butthurt from your vocab?
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Thanks 'sclams :cheers:
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Thanks 'sclams :cheers:
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Why in the hell am I watching OU volleyball in HD on FSOK with there mouthbreathing broadcasters yet there is still no K-State deal? Christ, I thought this was done, under control. Such bullshit.
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Why in the hell am I watching OU volleyball in HD on FSOK with there mouthbreathing broadcasters yet there is still no K-State deal? Christ, I thought this was done, under control. Such bullshit.
Considering how good the volleyball team is this year, that kind of makes it even worse.
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CC - Are we looking at expanding the deal with FSN at the same level as Tech, OU, Baylor, etc.?
Are we going to the "1000 hours of content on FSNKC and FSN Midwest" angle, and that's why this is taking longer? We're changing the parameters of the deal?
It seems like Fox is trying to gobble up as many hours of T3 Big 12 content that they can get their hands on.
Also, if the above is true, what does this do to K-State HD.tv?
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Also, if the above is true, what does this do to K-State HD.tv?
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Why in the hell am I watching OU volleyball in HD on FSOK with there mouthbreathing broadcasters yet there is still no K-State deal? Christ, I thought this was done, under control. Such bullshit.
Word is ADJC (remember, he is normally not specifically involved in negotiations, just doing us cat fans a HUGE favor by directing our athletics to a tv set, again not his job) was about to kick ass/take names etc. when those Learfield punks down the hall got him a 2 week Carnival Cruise as a gift to smooth things over for their blundering of the negotiations. They assured him a deal would be done but here we are. Quite a pickle.
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The Time Warner channel guide now lists the LHC Bill Snyder Show in its old time slot at 10:30 Sunday night on Fox Sports Kansas City. It also lists repeat showings during the week on Fox Sports Central. It had been airing on MetroSports the past 3 weeks.
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It's showing up on the Directv guide too. Has a deal been reached? I guess we'll find out in the Friday email from Currie.
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It's showing up on the Directv guide too. Has a deal been reached? I guess we'll find out in the Friday email from Currie.
He's SO busy. Do you see all the things he does in those emails? WOW! He must be the busiest person in the history of the world. Thank God he shares that with us, so we can share in the joy of the marvel of it!
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It's showing up on the Directv guide too. Has a deal been reached? I guess we'll find out in the Friday email from Currie.
Nope. BUT :excited:
"Neighborhood Coffee with the AD" Debuts in Manhattan
It's always important to have personal contact with our fans and hear their thoughts, concerns and questions, but it is especially important as we make necessary adjustments together to continue our positive momentum. Earlier this month, we held a neighborhood coffee event at the Colbert Hills Clubhouse to provide western Manhattan area residents with an opportunity to talk one-on-one about K-State Athletics. A great crowd was in attendance and the "tour" will be coming to a neighborhood near you! Watch for dates and times coming soon.
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The LHC Bill Snyder Television Show may now be seen on FSN each Sunday at 10:30 p.m.
http://cjonline.com/sports/2012-09-22/donations-will-affect-k-state-football-seating
But: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22943.0 :sdeek:
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Deal with FSN is close. Credit should go to ADJC when done.
:thumbs: good news
Did he rip Learfield's ass?
Yep, he yelled all the way down the hall for the Learfield dudes to get the deal done.
Meh, I like the different angle, but not enough venom. Keep at it, though!
i don't know any more than anyone else here but since you asked, i'll give you my guess as to what took place. but first it's important to clear up an issue in your post. cc never posted that currie had no control, he posted that it wasn't currie who was negotiating with fox sports. i hope you never thought that currie had no control, you seem smarter than that. anyway, there's a difference there which i'm sure you're able to discern.
here's my guess as to what happened-
fact- learfield owns negotiating responsibilities as our rights holder.
guess- currie trusted that they would come to an agreement with fox sports to work out a deal and stayed out of it.
fact- learfield and fox sports didn't come to an agreement. learfield asked for too much.
guess- currie underestimated learfields ability to negotiate a deal.
guess- currie, two weeks ago and once it came out that the two sides weren't able to work out a deal, began pressuring learfield to get a deal done. while he can't negotiate w/ fox sports, he can certainly negotiate with learfield as it relates to K-State and Learfield's future relationship together.
guess- learfield, reacting to currie's involvement and pressure, went back to the table with fox sports with more reasonable terms for both sides.
guess- the situation will be resolved in short order. and it very well may have been worked out w/o adjc's involvement. or maybe not.
does any of this really matter, it's resolved. sorry you missed out on a vball game.
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the bsnyder show is on fxkc
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the bsnyder show is on fxkc
That can be shown without a deal being finalized. FSKC can buy those.
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about rough ridin' time:
http://kstatesports.cstv.com/genrel/101712aaa.html (http://kstatesports.cstv.com/genrel/101712aaa.html)
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about rough ridin' time:
http://kstatesports.cstv.com/genrel/101712aaa.html (http://kstatesports.cstv.com/genrel/101712aaa.html)
jezuscrist, seriously!!! I don't watch lame sports like women's volleyball, but if I did, I would have missed like 3/4 of the season!!!
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K-STATE, FOX SPORTS AND LEARFIELD SPORTS UNVEIL MULTIMEDIA RIGHTS Reply
K-STATE, FOX SPORTS AND LEARFIELD SPORTS UNVEIL INNOVATIVE MULTIMEDIA RIGHTS AGREEMENT
MANHATTAN, Kan. ? K-State Athletics announced today an enhanced third-tier television package that includes regional, national and world-wide distribution as a result of a new multi-year agreement between FOX Sports and Learfield Sports, the multimedia rights holder for K-State Athletics.
FOX Sports will televise nearly 60 broadcasts, including up to 28 live K-State sporting events this season with regional distribution on FOX Sports Kansas City and FOX Sports Midwest, some national distribution on FOX College Sports (FCS) and world-wide distribution on K-StateHD.TV. A complete schedule of live game telecasts and the various FOX platforms carrying the telecasts will be released in the coming weeks.
"This a big win for the K-State Nation and the Wildcats' fan base throughout the Midwest and beyond," said Learfield Sports' Chief Content Officer Joe Ferreira. "Millions of viewers on a variety of platforms will now be able to catch K-State games and coaches' shows, resulting in a much greater volume of programming for the Wildcats with a broader distribution than ever before."
Fans in Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana and other parts of the nation will see K-State events, which may include approximately eight K-State men's basketball games, up to 20 women's basketball, baseball and volleyball games, and additional non-game programming mutually selected by FOX Sports and K-State on FOX Sports platforms including FOX Sports Kansas City and FOX Sports Midwest each year during the multi-year agreement. Selected programming may include the following shows throughout their respective seasons: the LHC Bill Snyder Show, the oscar Weber Show and the Deb Patterson Show, as well as a preseason football special. FOX Sports Kansas City has been the television home of K-State sports since 2003.
The new groundbreaking agreement also allows K-State Athletics to stream events on K-StateHD.TV that are not selected for distribution by FOX Sports or any FOX-designated platform. Debuting in 2011, K-StateHD.TV is an exclusive high-definition network providing Kansas State Athletics and Kansas State University a world-wide connection for live athletics and academics events, classic games, press conferences, original programming, as well as on-campus performances and/or lectures. A joint venture with the university, K-StateHD.TV is ranked first in viewership among all CBS?College Network schools.
"We are pleased to announce this new multi-year agreement which will maximize the exposure and visibility of our programs and student-athletes throughout Kansas, the Midwest and the entire country," K-State Athletics Director John Currie said. "This partnership with FOX, as well as our continued growth with K-StateHD.TV, will afford our fans significant opportunities to watch and support the Wildcats."
"We're excited to extend our relationship with K-State into a second decade," said FOX Sports Kansas City and FOX Sports Midwest Senior Vice President/General Manager Jack Donovan. "We enjoy working with K-State and its student-athletes and are pleased to showcase more K-State coverage as part of our new multi-year agreement."
Learfield Sports' K-State Sports Properties oversees all aspects of the K-State relationship. Learfield Sports, which manages multimedia rights for more than 50 collegiate institutions and associations including four additional Big 12 Conference members ? Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech ? also titles the prestigious Learfield Sports Directors' Cup. The company's multi-media rights encompass numerous content distribution platforms to deliver the passion of college athletics across radio, television and digital networks to fans globally. Today, Learfield Sports' exclusive sports programming reaches more than 50 million television households nationally and delivers nearly 17,000 hours of radio programming on more than 1,000 radio stations. For additional information about the company's 40-year history and complete collegiate portfolio, visit www.learfieldsports.com.
FOX Sports Kansas City, a regional sports television network, is the leading provider of local sports in Kansas and western Missouri. FOX Sports Kansas City and FOX Sports Midwest combine to reach more than 6 million television homes and produce more than 2000 hours of local programming each year, including Kansas City Royals baseball, Big 12, Kansas State, University of Missouri and Missouri Valley Conference sports, St. Louis Cardinals baseball, St. Louis Blues hockey and much more. For more information visit FOXSportsKansasCity.com.
FOX College Sports is seen by viewers in the nation's 25 largest cities, including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, Dallas and Atlanta. FCS is available on DirecTV and most major cable companies including AT&T U-verse, Charter, Comcast, Insight, Time Warner and Verizon FiOS. For complete cable provider information and availability log onto http://fcs.channelfinder.net/start.asp
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the key takeaway here:
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K-STATE, FOX SPORTS AND LEARFIELD SPORTS UNVEIL MULTIMEDIA RIGHTS Reply
K-STATE, FOX SPORTS AND LEARFIELD SPORTS UNVEIL INNOVATIVE MULTIMEDIA RIGHTS AGREEMENT
MANHATTAN, Kan. ? K-State Athletics announced today an enhanced third-tier television package that includes regional, national and world-wide distribution as a result of a new multi-year agreement between FOX Sports and Learfield Sports, the multimedia rights holder for K-State Athletics.
FOX Sports will televise nearly 60 broadcasts, including up to 28 live K-State sporting events this season with regional distribution on FOX Sports Kansas City and FOX Sports Midwest, some national distribution on FOX College Sports (FCS) and world-wide distribution on K-StateHD.TV. A complete schedule of live game telecasts and the various FOX platforms carrying the telecasts will be released in the coming weeks.
"This a big win for the K-State Nation and the Wildcats' fan base throughout the Midwest and beyond," said Learfield Sports' Chief Content Officer Joe Ferreira. "Millions of viewers on a variety of platforms will now be able to catch K-State games and coaches' shows, resulting in a much greater volume of programming for the Wildcats with a broader distribution than ever before."
Fans in Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana and other parts of the nation will see K-State events, which may include approximately eight K-State men's basketball games, up to 20 women's basketball, baseball and volleyball games, and additional non-game programming mutually selected by FOX Sports and K-State on FOX Sports platforms including FOX Sports Kansas City and FOX Sports Midwest each year during the multi-year agreement. Selected programming may include the following shows throughout their respective seasons: the LHC Bill Snyder Show, the oscar Weber Show and the Deb Patterson Show, as well as a preseason football special. FOX Sports Kansas City has been the television home of K-State sports since 2003.
The new groundbreaking agreement also allows K-State Athletics to stream events on K-StateHD.TV that are not selected for distribution by FOX Sports or any FOX-designated platform. Debuting in 2011, K-StateHD.TV is an exclusive high-definition network providing Kansas State Athletics and Kansas State University a world-wide connection for live athletics and academics events, classic games, press conferences, original programming, as well as on-campus performances and/or lectures. A joint venture with the university, K-StateHD.TV is ranked first in viewership among all CBS?College Network schools.
"We are pleased to announce this new multi-year agreement which will maximize the exposure and visibility of our programs and student-athletes throughout Kansas, the Midwest and the entire country," K-State Athletics Director John Currie said. "This partnership with FOX, as well as our continued growth with K-StateHD.TV, will afford our fans significant opportunities to watch and support the Wildcats."
"We're excited to extend our relationship with K-State into a second decade," said FOX Sports Kansas City and FOX Sports Midwest Senior Vice President/General Manager Jack Donovan. "We enjoy working with K-State and its student-athletes and are pleased to showcase more K-State coverage as part of our new multi-year agreement."
Learfield Sports' K-State Sports Properties oversees all aspects of the K-State relationship. Learfield Sports, which manages multimedia rights for more than 50 collegiate institutions and associations including four additional Big 12 Conference members ? Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech ? also titles the prestigious Learfield Sports Directors' Cup. The company's multi-media rights encompass numerous content distribution platforms to deliver the passion of college athletics across radio, television and digital networks to fans globally. Today, Learfield Sports' exclusive sports programming reaches more than 50 million television households nationally and delivers nearly 17,000 hours of radio programming on more than 1,000 radio stations. For additional information about the company's 40-year history and complete collegiate portfolio, visit www.learfieldsports.com.
FOX Sports Kansas City, a regional sports television network, is the leading provider of local sports in Kansas and western Missouri. FOX Sports Kansas City and FOX Sports Midwest combine to reach more than 6 million television homes and produce more than 2000 hours of local programming each year, including Kansas City Royals baseball, Big 12, Kansas State, University of Missouri and Missouri Valley Conference sports, St. Louis Cardinals baseball, St. Louis Blues hockey and much more. For more information visit FOXSportsKansasCity.com.
FOX College Sports is seen by viewers in the nation's 25 largest cities, including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, Dallas and Atlanta. FCS is available on DirecTV and most major cable companies including AT&T U-verse, Charter, Comcast, Insight, Time Warner and Verizon FiOS. For complete cable provider information and availability log onto http://fcs.channelfinder.net/start.asp
Make it Luke? or are you just posting the text of the link for posterity?
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he's doing what any good poster would do and including the information at the link and not drive traffic somewhere else.
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he's doing what any good poster would do and including the information at the link and not drive traffic somewhere else.
what ever
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he's doing what any good poster would do and including the information at the link and not drive traffic somewhere else.
what ever
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