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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: detch23 on July 09, 2012, 09:13:48 AM
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Puts LHCBS in perspective compared to other schools. This brings me back to the topic of what we are going to do for our next coach.
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/62681/programs-without-winningest-coaches (http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/62681/programs-without-winningest-coaches)
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#ubben4merc
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Ron Zook. It's going to be Ron Zook.
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Just how effed are we going to be without him?
God damnit.
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Ron Zook. It's going to be Ron Zook.
We will probably get Dooley after Tennessee fires him.
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I have never been under the impression that Ubben hates K-State, but I think this is more just agknowlegeing how terrible we were without him.
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Just how effed are we going to be without him?
God damnit.
Ubben or Snyder?
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Here's what we know:
Currie wants out of Manhattan yesterday. Wants it so bad it's the only thing he thinks about. But, he isn't leaving for a worse job. He wants a big time job. He has obviously tainted his image by not being able to get along with his basketball coach. Some dumbasses will tell you that there isn't enough public evidence for this and some will refuse to believe it. Everyone who is everyone in college sports knows what went down and that those two rough ridin' idiots couldn't play nice. He made it worse by hiring a loser who anyone who had an opening could have hired. He has done well raising money. He timed that right as conference armageddon was happening and our alumni realized we had a real shot at getting kicked out of the big kid pool if we didn't start doing some crap. He also looks good because we are comparing him to a bunch of dumbfucks who preceeded him who didn't know crap about raising money (I still love you Bob). So, he knows he has to make a big hire in football. He knows his chance will come soon. He will take a better job if one comes available before Bill dies or whatever but he may not get an offer. I think he will try to make a splash football coach hire. I'm hopeful he will try to pay a lot to do so. I'm not really that concerned with Currie making this hire.
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Just how effed are we going to be without him?
God damnit.
I wouldn't say effed, OB prolly has 5 good years left and that is plenty of time for a quality coach to get fired somewhere go to the NFL and then come back to be a Head Coach.. Cough Jim Leavitt Cough Cough
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Ron Zook. It's going to be Ron Zook.
guys look, zook wouldn't have been my first choice either, but he did take illinois to a bcs bowl game! i'm personally going to see how he recruits and coaches on the field for a few years before i judge him and i urge you all to do the same. if he can just learn from some of the mistakes he made while he was at illinois and bring in some good recruiting assistants...
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Just how effed are we going to be without him?
God damnit.
I wouldn't say effed, OB prolly has 5 good years left and that is plenty of time for a quality coach to get fired somewhere go to the NFL and then come back to be a Head Coach.. Cough Jim Leavitt Cough Cough
If it were going to be Leavitt, Currie would have let Snyder go ahead and make him defensive coordinator. I would like to think we can do better than Leavitt, but I think Currie will end up with someone worse.
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Here's what we know:
Currie wants out of Manhattan yesterday. Wants it so bad it's the only thing he thinks about. But, he isn't leaving for a worse job. He wants a big time job. He has obviously tainted his image by not being able to get along with his basketball coach. Some dumbasses will tell you that there isn't enough public evidence for this and some will refuse to believe it. Everyone who is everyone in college sports knows what went down and that those two rough ridin' idiots couldn't play nice. He made it worse by hiring a loser who anyone who had an opening could have hired. He has done well raising money. He timed that right as conference armageddon was happening and our alumni realized we had a real shot at getting kicked out of the big kid pool if we didn't start doing some crap. He also looks good because we are comparing him to a bunch of dumbfucks who preceeded him who didn't know crap about raising money (I still love you Bob). So, he knows he has to make a big hire in football. He knows his chance will come soon. He will take a better job if one comes available before Bill dies or whatever but he may not get an offer. I think he will try to make a splash football coach hire. I'm hopeful he will try to pay a lot to do so. I'm not really that concerned with Currie making this hire.
How do you reconcile the two bolded statements? Currie doesn't care about bb?
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My biggest problem with Currie hiring Weber is that I think Currie truly believes he made a good hire. It makes it hard to believe that Currie will make a good football hire, regardless of what he is willing to spend, because he just doesn't know what a good hire is.
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Here's what we know:
Currie wants out of Manhattan yesterday. Wants it so bad it's the only thing he thinks about. But, he isn't leaving for a worse job. He wants a big time job. He has obviously tainted his image by not being able to get along with his basketball coach. Some dumbasses will tell you that there isn't enough public evidence for this and some will refuse to believe it. Everyone who is everyone in college sports knows what went down and that those two rough ridin' idiots couldn't play nice. He made it worse by hiring a loser who anyone who had an opening could have hired. He has done well raising money. He timed that right as conference armageddon was happening and our alumni realized we had a real shot at getting kicked out of the big kid pool if we didn't start doing some crap. He also looks good because we are comparing him to a bunch of dumbfucks who preceeded him who didn't know crap about raising money (I still love you Bob). So, he knows he has to make a big hire in football. He knows his chance will come soon. He will take a better job if one comes available before Bill dies or whatever but he may not get an offer. I think he will try to make a splash football coach hire. I'm hopeful he will try to pay a lot to do so. I'm not really that concerned with Currie making this hire.
How do you reconcile the two bolded statements? Currie doesn't care about bb?
yes
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My biggest problem with Currie hiring Weber is that I think Currie truly believes he made a good hire. It makes it hard to believe that Currie will make a good football hire, regardless of what he is willing to spend, because he just doesn't know what a good hire is.
he thinks it's a safe hire that won't blow up in his face until he's long gone. he's right, unfortunately.
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My biggest problem with Currie hiring Weber is that I think Currie truly believes he made a good hire. It makes it hard to believe that Currie will make a good football hire, regardless of what he is willing to spend, because he just doesn't know what a good hire is.
he thinks it's a safe hire that won't blow up in his face until he's long gone. he's right, unfortunately.
I can actually forsee Weber getting his ass kicked in confy this year. But you are right, Weber's track record and inherent chicken nuggets-ness will make him popular. Plus, from what I have seen, Weber is adept at deflecting when his talented teams crap all over the court. He will survive several years.
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Currie is gambling on the timing with oscar. I mean, if Bill does have 5 yrs left, Currie will be our AD for a while or take a lateral move.
Also, we should start talking to Peyton Manning about the coaching job. I mean, his NFL arc and Bill's remaining life have to have similar timing, right?
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Currie is gambling on the timing with oscar. I mean, if Bill does have 5 yrs left, Currie will be our AD for a while or take a lateral move.
Also, we should start talking to Peyton Manning about the coaching job. I mean, his NFL arc and Bill's remaining life have to have similar timing, right?
Tom Brady
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Herbstreit
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Here's what we know:
Currie wants out of Manhattan yesterday. Wants it so bad it's the only thing he thinks about. But, he isn't leaving for a worse job. He wants a big time job. He has obviously tainted his image by not being able to get along with his basketball coach. Some dumbasses will tell you that there isn't enough public evidence for this and some will refuse to believe it. Everyone who is everyone in college sports knows what went down and that those two rough ridin' idiots couldn't play nice. He made it worse by hiring a loser who anyone who had an opening could have hired. He has done well raising money. He timed that right as conference armageddon was happening and our alumni realized we had a real shot at getting kicked out of the big kid pool if we didn't start doing some crap. He also looks good because we are comparing him to a bunch of dumbfucks who preceeded him who didn't know crap about raising money (I still love you Bob). So, he knows he has to make a big hire in football. He knows his chance will come soon. He will take a better job if one comes available before Bill dies or whatever but he may not get an offer. I think he will try to make a splash football coach hire. I'm hopeful he will try to pay a lot to do so. I'm not really that concerned with Currie making this hire.
yep
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Michael Strahan
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doug gottlieb
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Herbstreit
If Herbie said he were interested, Currie would call an emergency presser and announce Zook within 45 minutes
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I think the timing might turn out just right for us to go get Jim McElwin from Colorado State. He was the head coach at Fresno State a few years ago and was under Saban for the last three years.
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LOL at Dan McCarney being ISU's winningest coach with a 56-85 record.
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McElwin doesn't seem to be the scary smart type either which is always plus.
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Guys, It's going to be Ron Zook. Currie will be on the fence about it, but he'll get phone calls from 80-year-old Johnny Majors and 77-year-old John Cooper giving Zook a recommendation from his days as their assistants in the 1980s and it will be all over.
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I couldn't get excited about Ron Zook, but I think he would be a better hire than Weber.
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i made a lot of phone calls to a lot of people trying to get someone to say something bad about ron zook and i just couldn't.
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Currie is gambling on the timing with oscar. I mean, if Bill does have 5 yrs left, Currie will be our AD for a while or take a lateral move.
Also, we should start talking to Peyton Manning about the coaching job. I mean, his NFL arc and Bill's remaining life have to have similar timing, right?
Instant recruiting magnet with brains to coach. Me like.
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I think the timing might turn out just right for us to go get Jim McElwin from Colorado State. He was the head coach at Fresno State a few years ago and was under Saban for the last three years.
sounds like a huge loser
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I think the timing might turn out just right for us to go get Jim McElwin from Colorado State. He was the head coach at Fresno State a few years ago and was under Saban for the last three years.
sounds like a huge loser
He was never the HC at Fresno St. He's never been a HC before.
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Herbstreit
If Herbie said he were interested, Currie would call an emergency presser and announce Zook within 45 minutes
heh. I think you have to do something like this (or Prince) with football just like you do with basketball. I'm a firm believer that you won't be able to hire a proven winner to coach at KSU, like, ever. So just roll the dice, and maybe be great.
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I think the timing might turn out just right for us to go get Jim McElwin from Colorado State. He was the head coach at Fresno State a few years ago and was under Saban for the last three years.
Awful, we want Gottlieb.
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I think we are closer to a new Head Football coach than you think. I think this may be Bill's last year and is going to hang it up again. Currie being all public about his 12% increase in the athletic budget is just a tool he is using to show our next coach the wants to spend more money.
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What ever happened to that one assistant from San Jose State (not the dude who left us with his son)? Also, I think we need to stick a knife in pig aggie state and get that Malzahn guy.
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I think we are closer to a new Head Football coach than you think. I think this may be Bill's last year and is going to hang it up again. Currie being all public about his 12% increase in the athletic budget is just a tool he is using to show our next coach the wants to spend more money.
I'm going to be honest here. I read this post and realized there is a possibility that we may be looking for a new FBHC in 5-6 months and immediately got a knot in the pit of my stomach. I know there's a small chance of it happening and my stomach dropped. It's not so much the losing Bill, but the thought of who is replacement will be. I really hope Johnny Majors and John Cooper go on a 21 day cruise together followed by a 1 month fishing expedition starting December 1st. Maybe add an African Safari after that just to be safe.
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rick daris is crushing it in this thread btw
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Bill would actually be pretty smart to call it a career after this year. we may very well suck next season whether he's here or not. we lose a lot.
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If we get Malzahn he will be here for one year before the SEC comes calling, and we'll (hopefully) take a risk on one of the assistants he brought in. And I'll love every second of it.
(Cue steve dave responding to my post with "we're not getting Malzahn")
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If we get Malzahn he will be here for one year before the SEC comes calling, and we'll (hopefully) take a risk on one of the assistants he brought in. And I'll love every second of it.
(Cue steve dave responding to my post with "we're not getting Malzahn")
we're not getting malzahn
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Everyone already knows who the next FBHC will be. I don't know of any reason to even discuss such a thing.
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I cannot believe I am going to say this but Dana Dimel would not be the worst successor.
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I cannot believe I am going to say this but Dana Dimel would not be the worst successor.
I know Joe Bob and Mo are pulling for this, otherwise Mo would have to retire and Joe Bob would have to go be the DE coach at UTSA or Louisana-Monroe.
Note: I don't think Dimel would be that bad of a choice either, I just couldn't help myself not to take a dig at those 2.
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I cannot believe I am going to say this but Dana Dimel would not be the worst successor.
yep, it's totally going to be dimel and we can't even say anything mean about him because he signed that fattyfest thing for us in the back of rab. i think dimel is more/less running everything already, so the hc title would just be a formality. double d come on down.
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I cannot believe I am going to say this but Dana Dimel would not be the worst successor.
yep, it's totally going to be dimel and we can't even say anything mean about him because he signed that fattyfest thing for us in the back of rab. i think dimel is more/less running everything already, so the hc title would just be a formality. double d come on down.
yeah, plus KU offered him their HC job and he shot their asses down.
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I cannot believe I am going to say this but Dana Dimel would not be the worst successor.
:dubious:
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IMO (like it matters) it will not be anyone on staff or with K-State ties. It will be someone the SEC connections/south connections. "It will knock our socks off"
Or Currie may use this hire to hire a manority for his resume building. Hope for a firing from the WBB or Baseball clubs to fill this "need"
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Who wins in this battle:
Currie's inner accountant vs. What's best for Currie's Resume vs. What's best for KSU FB (Hint: The correct answer is not "What's best for KSU FB")
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Who wins in this battle:
Currie's inner accountant vs. What's best for Currie's Resume vs. What's best for KSU FB (Hint: The correct answer is not "What's best for KSU FB")
Yeah, but 2 and 3 don't necessarily conflict either. A great hire that is seen out of KStates league would help his resume tremendously. His resume really doesn't need any more fundraising polishing. It could really use some good coach hiring and relationship polishing though.
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IMO (like it matters) it will not be anyone on staff or with K-State ties. It will be someone the SEC connections/south connections. "It will knock our socks off"
Or Currie may use this hire to hire a manority for his resume building. Hope for a firing from the WBB or Baseball clubs to fill this "need"
Well he ran off the one we had, so he probably needs two to get back ahead in that category (that is unless he wants an SEC job, in which case he needs to hire as many non-threatening white protestants as possible).
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Who wins in this battle:
Currie's inner accountant vs. What's best for Currie's Resume vs. What's best for KSU FB (Hint: The correct answer is not "What's best for KSU FB")
Yeah, but 2 and 3 don't necessarily conflict either. A great hire that is seen out of KStates league would help his resume tremendously. His resume really doesn't need any more fundraising polishing. It could really use some good coach hiring and relationship polishing though.
as already said he is priming the pump with this whole 12% increase.
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Who wins in this battle:
Currie's inner accountant vs. What's best for Currie's Resume vs. What's best for KSU FB (Hint: The correct answer is not "What's best for KSU FB")
Yeah, but 2 and 3 don't necessarily conflict either. A great hire that is seen out of KStates league would help his resume tremendously. His resume really doesn't need any more fundraising polishing. It could really use some good coach hiring and relationship polishing though.
as already said he is priming the pump with this whole 12% increase.
Love this metaphor.
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Tee Martin
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Who wins in this battle:
Currie's inner accountant vs. What's best for Currie's Resume vs. What's best for KSU FB (Hint: The correct answer is not "What's best for KSU FB")
Yeah, but 2 and 3 don't necessarily conflict either. A great hire that is seen out of KStates league would help his resume tremendously. His resume really doesn't need any more fundraising polishing. It could really use some good coach hiring and relationship polishing though.
as already said he is priming the pump with this whole 12% increase.
12% increase over what we are paying the current staff as a whole is still no where near the $ it will take to hire splash coach. It's not just the $ for the HC as the HC won't commit coaching suicide by taking a job with a low staff budget.
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Is the dana dimel scenario analogous to the underwood would not be the worst thing in the world scenario?
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We're going to end up with Houston Nutt, aren't we? :frown:
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Dimel would be a much better hire than Underwood
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We're going to end up with Houston Nutt, aren't we? :frown:
Would take
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i agree with the hamburglar that currie is an accountant that took a wrong turn at the wake forrest job fair and ended up in athletics administration.
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We're going to end up with Houston Nutt, aren't we? :frown:
Would take
I'm not sure if he meets our "better than Prince" standard. Dimel would be better, but not much. I would like to see us pursue Luke Fickell, but I doubt that we even give him a phone call.
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i agree with the hamburglar that currie is an accountant that took a wrong turn at the wake forrest job fair and ended up in athletics administration.
I think he is prob a good assist AD who's ceiling is assist AD in charge of fundraising.
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We're going to end up with Houston Nutt, aren't we? :frown:
Would take
I'm not sure if he meets our "better than Prince" standard. Dimel would be better, but not much. I would like to see us pursue Luke Fickell, but I doubt that we even give him a phone call.
we aren't getting luke fickell
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I think the whole "Dimel wouldn't be a bad choice" idea is dependent on what the overall staff budget is. If we could hire Dimel at $1.5MM rather than someone else at $2.3MM, would Dimel be given an extra $400,000 to play with to hire is assistants over what the $2.3MM coach would be given? Would Dimel be given an extra $150,000 to throw at a better DC? Would rather take Dimel with a higher staff budget than a splash HC hire with a crap staff.
Look at Ron Prince's team with James Franklin & Raheem Morris compared to Ron Prince's team with Tim Tibesar & Dave Brock. Look at LHC Bill Snyder's teams with Dana Dimel or Brett Bielema or any DC or OC from the 1990s compared to LHC Bill Snyder's teams with Del Miller and Bobby Elliott.
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We're going to end up with Houston Nutt, aren't we? :frown:
Would take
I'm not sure if he meets our "better than Prince" standard. Dimel would be better, but not much. I would like to see us pursue Luke Fickell, but I doubt that we even give him a phone call.
we aren't getting luke fickell
I agree, but if you don't get told "no" a few times, you're not really going to end up with the best possible coach. It's going to be a whole lot easier for me to stomach whoever we end up with if we at least publicly go after some good coaches. I mean, if Iowa State can get Gene Chizik, who's to say we have no shot at somebody's defensive coordinator? Why not ask?
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Jim Tressel would be the ultimate home run, and he's toxic to other programs for the next few years.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/12/20/jim-tressel-ohio-state-ncaa-sanctions/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/12/20/jim-tressel-ohio-state-ncaa-sanctions/index.html)
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Jim Tressel would be the ultimate home run, and he's toxic to other programs for the next few years.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/12/20/jim-tressel-ohio-state-ncaa-sanctions/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/12/20/jim-tressel-ohio-state-ncaa-sanctions/index.html)
oh man, would take. dream hire.
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Tressel and Pearl ....
What could have been
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Tressel and Pearl ....
What could have been
Tressel still could be. He would have to sit out the first 5 games of his first season and he would not be able to coach the bowl game. BFD, if you ask me.
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No way on tressel. With oscar rough ridin' up BB, the sole tuck focus will be on football. No way all that tuck focus will let us end up with a guy like tressel.
The majority of our fans would rather we be a 5-6 win team with a guy they sit next to at church that doesn't cuss and won't let LaDanian Tomlinson sleep through meetings.
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mmMMmm would take raheem morris!
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Petrino
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No way on tressel. With oscar rough ridin' up BB, the sole tuck focus will be on football. No way all that tuck focus will let us end up with a guy like tressel.
The majority of our fans would rather we be a 5-6 win team with a guy they sit next to at church that doesn't cuss and won't let LaDanian Tomlinson sleep through meetings.
They would only be against Tressel until his first press conference, at which time they would fully endorse him. It would be just like Huggins, only better.
The majority of our fans will stop going to games altogether after we hire some loser and he goes a few seasons with only 5-6 wins. It's Currie's job to see this.
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Petrino
HARLEY DAY!!!!!
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Petrino
jfc, would take.
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Petrino
jfc, would take.
His name comes up daily here in Knoxville as a potential replacement for Dooley. He's gonna get hired again, might as well be us.
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Petrino would be pretty great.
This thread is just setting us all up for extreme disappointment, btw.
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Bill isn't leaving until Tate is done playing here.
That being said, Currie's resume would look pretty piss poor if he hired Dimel.
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Herbstreit
If Herbie said he were interested, Currie would call an emergency presser and announce Zook within 45 minutes
Yep
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Bill isn't leaving until Tate is done playing here.
That being said, Currie's resume would look pretty piss poor if he hired Dimel.
It will look more piss poor when worse potential hires from outside the program keep telling him no. Then again, Currie isn't a logical man.
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Bill isn't leaving until Tate is done playing here.
That being said, Currie's resume would look pretty piss poor if he hired Dimel.
Was it not reported that Tate suffered a career threatening injury?
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LHC Bill Snyder is going to live and coach forever
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we can all do the same if we stick to his one meal a day super diet consisting of 1/4 cup birdseed. (you get 3 cheat days a month where you may consume 1 chocolate chip cookie if it is a gift.)
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He will coach undead
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we can all do the same if we stick to his one meal a day super diet consisting of 1/4 cup birdseed. (you get 3 cheat days a month where you may consume 1 chocolate chip cookie if it is a gift.)
he loves taco bell. the fact that he's lived this long is a miracle.
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Bill isn't leaving until Tate is done playing here.
That being said, Currie's resume would look pretty piss poor if he hired Dimel.
Was it not reported that Tate suffered a career threatening injury?
Yeah, thought I heard this too.
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mmMMmm would take raheem morris!
Wow, me too. I forgot about him.
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we aren't getting Raheem Morris
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we aren't getting Raheem Morris
He just got fired! and the reasons he left us are all gone (except for our location in manhattan, ks)!
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Bill isn't leaving until Tate is done playing here.
That being said, Currie's resume would look pretty piss poor if he hired Dimel.
It will look more piss poor when worse potential hires from outside the program keep telling him no. Then again, Currie isn't a logical man.
People keep bringing this talking point up like it matters, but it really doesn't matter how many times we get told no. It's not like Dimel will refuse the job if we get told no too many times. At the end of the day, nobody remembers how many times you get told no. If I were conducting the search and the first guy I asked said yes, I would think that I didn't aim high enough.
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we aren't getting Raheem Morris
He just got fired! and the reasons he left us are all gone (except for our location in manhattan, ks)!
none of that increases our odds
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I know that our odds increase when we target coaches who have just been fired.
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Bill isn't leaving until Tate is done playing here.
That being said, Currie's resume would look pretty piss poor if he hired Dimel.
It will look more piss poor when worse potential hires from outside the program keep telling him no. Then again, Currie isn't a logical man.
People keep bringing this talking point up like it matters, but it really doesn't matter how many times we get told no. It's not like Dimel will refuse the job if we get told no too many times. At the end of the day, nobody remembers how many times you get told no. If I were conducting the search and the first guy I asked said yes, I would think that I didn't aim high enough.
I think you missed the part where I said "worse potential hires". I'm fine with getting told "no" until Dimel is our best option. My point is that Currie is so set on bringing in an outside hire that he'll keep asking even if Dimel ends up being a much better option than the person he brings in.
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I know that our odds increase when we target coaches who have just been fired.
doesn't matter. if someone is fired and still wouldn't take the job under any circumstances our odds are zero. when you bring up a name ask yourself this (or ask me because I will be able to answer it correctly/immediatley without even thinking about it):
would he take the job if offered? nope. <---- well, there you have it.
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ok I will consider replacing exclamation marks with question marks going forward.
Dana Dimel is boring for a daydream and makes me sad though.
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ok I will consider replacing exclamation marks with question marks going forward.
Dana Dimel is boring for a daydream and makes me sad though.
yeah, not denying that
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Remember when Tony Dungy said on Football Night in America that Raheem Morris left KSU as the DC to become a position coach in the NFL it was because while he was at KSU he didn't think he'd get a shot as a HC in the college ranks because he was a minority? Raheem Morris isn't coming back to KSU.
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Hey guys, but what about the fact that Raheem coached Freeman? That can't hurt, right?
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Remember when Tony Dungy said on Football Night in America that Raheem Morris left KSU as the DC to become a position coach in the NFL it was because while he was at KSU he didn't think he'd get a shot as a HC in the college ranks because he was a minority? Raheem Morris isn't coming back to KSU.
This made me feel like raheem COULD come back! Is John Currie a likely racist? If so, I see that as the only barrier.
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Remember when Tony Dungy said on Football Night in America that Raheem Morris left KSU as the DC to become a position coach in the NFL it was because while he was at KSU he didn't think he'd get a shot as a HC in the college ranks because he was a minority? Raheem Morris isn't coming back to KSU.
This made me feel like raheem COULD come back! Is John Currie a likely racist? If so, I see that as the only barrier.
Is see that as KSU isn't a destination job for Raheem if he wanted to get back into the college game, and he wouldn't come back to KSU to try to improve his stock to get a better job because he doesn't believe he would get a fair shake at the next one.
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I don't know why people don't just work in Manhattan and fly back to their beach resort homes.
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ok I will consider replacing exclamation marks with question marks going forward.
Dana Dimel is boring for a daydream and makes me sad though.
We're not getting Dimel.
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ok I will consider replacing exclamation marks with question marks going forward.
Dana Dimel is boring for a daydream and makes me sad though.
We're not getting Dimel.
You are just being a contrarian now.
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ok I will consider replacing exclamation marks with question marks going forward.
Dana Dimel is boring for a daydream and makes me sad though.
We're not getting Dimel.
You are just being a contrarian now.
I'm having Beems withdrawals. I'm sure you understand.
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ok I will consider replacing exclamation marks with question marks going forward.
Dana Dimel is boring for a daydream and makes me sad though.
We're not getting Dimel.
This is phrased perfectly. I mean, fantastic.
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Manny Diaz. Or Kirby Smart.
But really, BV is the only person who DESERVES it.
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We need someone that is a hardass and the players hate, he needs to have a conflicting relationship with the AD too.
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Remember when Tony Dungy said on Football Night in America that Raheem Morris left KSU as the DC to become a position coach in the NFL it was because while he was at KSU he didn't think he'd get a shot as a HC in the college ranks because he was a minority? Raheem Morris isn't coming back to KSU.
Yeah, I don't think he put it quite that way.
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Remember when Tony Dungy said on Football Night in America that Raheem Morris left KSU as the DC to become a position coach in the NFL it was because while he was at KSU he didn't think he'd get a shot as a HC in the college ranks because he was a minority? Raheem Morris isn't coming back to KSU.
Yeah, I don't think he put it quite that way.
Here's the link:
http://thegrio.com/2009/12/07/tony-dungy-lack-of-black-college-coaches-disgraceful/ (http://thegrio.com/2009/12/07/tony-dungy-lack-of-black-college-coaches-disgraceful/)
Dungy's exact quote: "Raheem Morris was a defensive coordinator at Kansas State. He left there to be a position coach in the NFL feeling like he had a better chance for advancement."
Not saying Dungy's right or wrong, just saying that if Raheem felt that strongly about it that Dungy mentioned in on FB Night in America, Raheem's not coming back.
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IIRC, Dungy also said we were kind of racist for firing Prince and bringing back Snyder. Which means that Dungy was...well...kind of right.
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Remember when Tony Dungy said on Football Night in America that Raheem Morris left KSU as the DC to become a position coach in the NFL it was because while he was at KSU he didn't think he'd get a shot as a HC in the college ranks because he was a minority? Raheem Morris isn't coming back to KSU.
Yeah, I don't think he put it quite that way.
Here's the link:
http://thegrio.com/2009/12/07/tony-dungy-lack-of-black-college-coaches-disgraceful/ (http://thegrio.com/2009/12/07/tony-dungy-lack-of-black-college-coaches-disgraceful/)
Dungy's exact quote: "Raheem Morris was a defensive coordinator at Kansas State. He left there to be a position coach in the NFL feeling like he had a better chance for advancement."
Not saying Dungy's right or wrong, just saying that if Raheem felt that strongly about it that Dungy mentioned in on FB Night in America, Raheem's not coming back.
Or he just felt he could advance more quickly in the NFL than he could have in college.
FWIW, he was right.
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IIRC, Dungy also said we were kind of racist for firing Prince and bringing back Snyder. Which means that Dungy was...well...kind of right.
Wonder what he feels about KU? :opcat:
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I'm not sure RP was even a real black guy, and I'm not sure Dungy is either. They can both gtfo.
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one of the prerequisites for the next coach that k-state hires is that I (dlew12) must have heard of him.
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Dimel makes the most sense, why else would he have come back?
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Hey guys, its pretty silly to speculate on replacing a coach that isn't going to leave for a while. 5 years ago, we'd have been pretty jacked to replace Huggs with rough ridin' oscar Weber.
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Man oh man.
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I would be surprised if the next HC is currently on staff.
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This thread needs more Brent Venables.
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This thread needs more Brent Venables and cocaine.
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This thread needs more Brent Venables and cocaine.
Redundant.
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it's too soon guys.
i still wake up in a cold sweat screaming about chicken nuggets three nights a week.
it's too soon.
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it's too soon guys.
i still wake up in a cold sweat screaming about chicken nuggets three nights a week.
it's too soon.
It's never too soon for Venzy.
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I would be surprised if the next HC is currently on staff.
Not me. You can go buy that Drano you were going to ingest if this happens:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fksu%2Fsports%2Fm-footbl%2Fauto_headshot%2F5526824.jpeg&hash=df1244428417e4e353ca2d6c251b3117049bf396)
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Remember when Tony Dungy said on Football Night in America that Raheem Morris left KSU as the DC to become a position coach in the NFL it was because while he was at KSU he didn't think he'd get a shot as a HC in the college ranks because he was a minority? Raheem Morris isn't coming back to KSU.
Yeah, I don't think he put it quite that way.
Here's the link:
http://thegrio.com/2009/12/07/tony-dungy-lack-of-black-college-coaches-disgraceful/ (http://thegrio.com/2009/12/07/tony-dungy-lack-of-black-college-coaches-disgraceful/)
Dungy's exact quote: "Raheem Morris was a defensive coordinator at Kansas State. He left there to be a position coach in the NFL feeling like he had a better chance for advancement."
Not saying Dungy's right or wrong, just saying that if Raheem felt that strongly about it that Dungy mentioned in on FB Night in America, Raheem's not coming back.
Or he just felt he could advance more quickly in the NFL than he could have in college.
FWIW, he was right.
Yeah, I didn't understand him to be saying anything about KSU -- good, bad or otherwise. It had to do with college football more broadly being behind the NFL in minority hiring. It just so happened Raheem came from KSU (where we already had a minority head coach at the time.)
Anyway, this is perfectly tee'd up now for someone to post "We're not getting Raheem."
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I would be surprised if the next HC is currently on staff.
Not me. You can go buy that Drano you were going to ingest if this happens:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fksu%2Fsports%2Fm-footbl%2Fauto_headshot%2F5526824.jpeg&hash=df1244428417e4e353ca2d6c251b3117049bf396)
Why on Earth would I want to drink Drano. I'm a KSU cat fan, and there isn't a better life out there.
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when did we decide we wanted a minority? or did we decide that? :runaway: