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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: OregonSmock on February 18, 2012, 07:13:47 PM
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...of how coaching makes a difference. You guys try to diminish what Danny Manning does with KU's big men, but take a look at the development (or lack thereof) when it comes to Baylor's big men. Perry Jones III would be a NPOY candidate under Self's system. At Baylor, he won't even be All Big 12.
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Pretty sure Jones would shrink in pressure situations just as much at KU as he does at Baylor. It's not a coaching thing that's the problem, it's the giant gaping vagina he has.
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Pretty sure Jones would shrink in pressure situations just as much at KU as he does at Baylor. It's not a coaching thing that's the problem, it's the giant gaping vagina he has.
Bill Self molds his players into tough competitors. Look at the transformation Withey has undergone since the beginning of the season. Quit with the denial.
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Or, they just get to play more.
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yeah, danny manning really coaches the crap out of those 4/5 star players for four years
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I think Calipari and Roy develop much better big men, but thats just MHO.
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...of how coaching makes a difference. You guys try to diminish what Danny Manning does with KU's big men, but take a look at the development (or lack thereof) when it comes to Baylor's big men. Perry Jones III would be a NPOY candidate under Self's system. At Baylor, he won't even be All Big 12.
TRob is a NPOY candidate and didn't even see the floor until his JR year. so PJ3 still has time.
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jones is more skilled than any of ku's bigs, what exactly is it that you koolaiders claim that manning teaches the ku bigs? something other than skills?
drew's faults as a coach have to do with getting his teams to play hard. depending on his mix of players also sometimes selfishness. but the idea that they lack skill or don't develop skill is lollable.
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:facepalm:
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"Every big guy that comes to Kansas just continues to get better from year to year to year... the progression with Danny Manning has a lot to do with that." - Jon Sunvold
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:facepalm:
Ya, the talking point that they "improve" so much is kinda diminished by the FACT that they don't get PT early in their career at KU. KU recruits so well, that you have to wait your turn...also, they recruit so well that it's a bit easier to coach that kind of talent. rock chalk
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:facepalm:
Ya, the talking point that they "improve" so much is kinda diminished by the FACT that they don't get PT early in their career at KU. KU recruits so well, that you have to wait your turn...also, they recruit so well that it's a bit easier to coach that kind of talent. rock chalk
Morris twins started from day one. Lottery picks.
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Just think about how much better they'd be if Danny wasn't one of the laziest D1 assistant coaches in America.
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:facepalm:
Ya, the talking point that they "improve" so much is kinda diminished by the FACT that they don't get PT early in their career at KU. KU recruits so well, that you have to wait your turn...also, they recruit so well that it's a bit easier to coach that kind of talent. rock chalk
Morris twins started from day one. Lottery picks.
Were they 2 stars?
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:facepalm:
Ya, the talking point that they "improve" so much is kinda diminished by the FACT that they don't get PT early in their career at KU. KU recruits so well, that you have to wait your turn...also, they recruit so well that it's a bit easier to coach that kind of talent. rock chalk
Morris twins started from day one. Lottery picks.
Were they 2 stars?
4-stars. Perry Jones was a 5-star, though. So was Wally Judge.
:lol:
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:facepalm:
Ya, the talking point that they "improve" so much is kinda diminished by the FACT that they don't get PT early in their career at KU. KU recruits so well, that you have to wait your turn...also, they recruit so well that it's a bit easier to coach that kind of talent. rock chalk
Morris twins started from day one. Lottery picks.
Were they 2 stars?
4-stars. Perry Jones was a 5-star, though. So was Wally Judge.
:lol:
What was Josh Selby?
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Or maybe a guy like Withey just knows he's going to get playing time and so he's playing with confidence.
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:facepalm:
Ya, the talking point that they "improve" so much is kinda diminished by the FACT that they don't get PT early in their career at KU. KU recruits so well, that you have to wait your turn...also, they recruit so well that it's a bit easier to coach that kind of talent. rock chalk
Morris twins started from day one. Lottery picks.
Were they 2 stars?
4-stars. Perry Jones was a 5-star, though. So was Wally Judge.
:lol:
What was Josh Selby?
5-star. Currently playing in the NBA while Josh Pullen collects checks in Europe.
:love:
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Why can't he get a HC job?
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So, with Trob leaving, and Withey continuing his Danny Manning coached super star rise, there should be no drop off for the hawks next year right? I mean, there's probably 2-3 more guys ready to make their leap in growth from Danny's magic touch, right?
We should expect to see Young and Wesley dominate next year, right?
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Why can't he get a HC job?
He just loves KU too much to leave, LSOC.
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Why can't he get a HC job?
He can. He doesn't want one and doesn't need the money.
:kstategrad:
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Yep, Selby is averaging 5 minutes a game, and is shooting 16% from behind the arc.
He's scored . . . 0.0 in the previous 10 games. In fact, in the previous 10 games the only stat Selby has is .5 steals.
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:facepalm:
Ya, the talking point that they "improve" so much is kinda diminished by the FACT that they don't get PT early in their career at KU. KU recruits so well, that you have to wait your turn...also, they recruit so well that it's a bit easier to coach that kind of talent. rock chalk
Morris twins started from day one. Lottery picks.
Were they 2 stars?
4-stars. Perry Jones was a 5-star, though. So was Wally Judge.
:lol:
What was Josh Selby?
5-star. Currently playing in the NBA while Josh Pullen collects checks in Europe.
:love:
Best coaching job of that Staff's career was somehow making Josh become a great player between the end of his college playing days and the beginning of his pro career. Now THAT is coaching. Hat's off to them...
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So, with Trob leaving, and Withey continuing his Danny Manning coached super star rise, there should be no drop off for the hawks next year right? I mean, there's probably 2-3 more guys ready to make their leap in growth from Danny's magic touch, right?
We should expect to see Young and Wesley dominate next year, right?
Young and Wesley might not even be on the roster next year. KU will have Withey, Traylor, Ellis, Peters, Lucas, and possibly Jakarr Sampson. We will be loaded once again next season.
Yep, Selby is averaging 5 minutes a game, and is shooting 16% from behind the arc.
He's scored . . . 0.0 in the previous 10 games. In fact, in the previous 10 games the only stat Selby has is .5 steals.
What NBA roster is Pullen on right now? TIA.
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Why can't he get a HC job?
He can. He doesn't want one and doesn't need the money.
:kstategrad:
Why is Bill Self so greedy, then? Why is he still a head coach?
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Love how KU fans act like Withy was some walk on scrub that Master Self pulled off the streets and made a star. :lol:
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Why can't he get a HC job?
He can. He doesn't want one and doesn't need the money.
:kstategrad:
Why is Bill Self so greedy, then? Why is he still a head coach?
wut
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Love how KU fans act like Withy was some walk on scrub that Master Self pulled off the streets and made a star. :lol:
Yeah, he clearly hasn't made any improvements since the beginning of the season.
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Love how KU fans act like Withy was some walk on scrub that Master Self pulled off the streets and made a star. :lol:
Yeah, he clearly hasn't made any improvements since the beginning of the season.
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What was Withey, was he a 2 star?
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goFULLBLOWNDENIAL.com
:love: :love: :love:
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Love how KU fans act like Withy was some walk on scrub that Master Self pulled off the streets and made a star. :lol:
Yeah, he clearly hasn't made any improvements since the beginning of the season.
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Lol
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Really hitting on all cylinders in the affirmation and validation front tonight.
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Love how KU fans act like Withy was some walk on scrub that Master Self pulled off the streets and made a star. :lol:
Yeah, he clearly hasn't made any improvements since the beginning of the season.
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What was Withey, was he a 2 star?
Perry Jones III, F-C 22 2-6 0-0 0-0 2 4 0 1 0 0 5 4
Jeff Withey, C 36 6-8 0-0 6-7 6 11 1 1 9 1 2 18
:lol: :lol: :lol:
/thread
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I think Bill Self is a great coach, who gets to coach great players. Seems like a great job. go cats
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Love how KU fans act like Withy was some walk on scrub that Master Self pulled off the streets and made a star. :lol:
Yeah, he clearly hasn't made any improvements since the beginning of the season.
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What was Withey, was he a 2 star?
Perry Jones III, F-C 22 2-6 0-0 0-0 2 4 0 1 0 0 5 4
Jeff Withey, C 36 6-8 0-0 6-7 6 11 1 1 9 1 2 18
:lol: :lol: :lol:
/thread
What year are each of those guys?
Can you show Withey's stats from last year?
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Love how KU fans act like Withy was some walk on scrub that Master Self pulled off the streets and made a star. :lol:
Yeah, he clearly hasn't made any improvements since the beginning of the season.
:flush:
What was Withey, was he a 2 star?
Perry Jones III, F-C 22 2-6 0-0 0-0 2 4 0 1 0 0 5 4
Jeff Withey, C 36 6-8 0-0 6-7 6 11 1 1 9 1 2 18
:lol: :lol: :lol:
/thread
What year are each of those guys?
Can you show Withey's stats from last year?
He's still in full blown denial mode! Yes!
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I don't watch every KU game, but didn't Withey play for KU last year?
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Jeff Whithey was a 4 star rated recruit out of high school, that had 6 high major offers, and was rated 36th in the country by rivals.
This isn't exactly DITR'ing here.
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Jeff Whithey was a 4 star rated recruit out of high school, that had 6 high major offers, and was rated 36th in the country by rivals.
This isn't exactly DITR'ing here.
Never heard of him until this year. Has to be freshman of the year candidate.
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KU is v. good at developing big men. I mean, for goodness sakes, Withey is playing at a high level. Withey.
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KU is v. good at developing big men. I mean, for goodness sakes, Withey is playing at a high level. Withey.
Amazing how self and co takes these groups of rag tag nobodies and wins championships every year. Great coach.
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Jeff Whithey was a 4 star rated recruit out of high school, that had 6 high major offers, and was rated 36th in the country by rivals.
This isn't exactly DITR'ing here.
I absolutely love the premise that a player can't improve or be developed unless he's a diamond in the rough 2-star recruit. You guys should take a break from sitting on the couch by the computer/TV and go out and watch a high school basketball game sometime.
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KU is v. good at developing big men. I mean, for goodness sakes, Withey is playing at a high level. Withey.
Amazing how self and co takes these groups of rag tag nobodies and wins championships every year. Great coach.
Yes, because again, a player cannot improve or develop unless he's a 2-star recruit that nobody has ever heard of before. Fascinating logic on goFULLBLOWNDENIAL.com.
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Jeff Whithey was a 4 star rated recruit out of high school, that had 6 high major offers, and was rated 36th in the country by rivals.
This isn't exactly DITR'ing here.
I absolutely love the premise that a player can't improve or be developed unless he's a diamond in the rough 2-star recruit. You guys should take a break from sitting on the couch by the computer/TV and go out and watch a high school basketball game sometime.
I get paid to do that Beems and with that said, I know 100% that you know 0% about basketball. T's and P's.
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I imagine some of us are trolling beemz, but there's probably a few who aren't.
KU is very good with big men. I don't know how anybody could refute that.
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Congrats on your 36th ranked, 4th year junior averaging 1 pt and 1 rebound more than our unranked freshman Gipson
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Congrats on your 36th ranked, 4th year junior averaging 1 pt and 1 rebound more than our unranked freshman Gipson
pfft
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Congrats on your 36th ranked, 4th year junior averaging 1 pt and 1 rebound more than our unranked freshman Gipson
pfft
In 5 more minutes per game. :lol:
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http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=2-jeff-withey&p1=thomas-gipson
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:lol:
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So, with Trob leaving, and Withey continuing his Danny Manning coached super star rise, there should be no drop off for the hawks next year right? I mean, there's probably 2-3 more guys ready to make their leap in growth from Danny's magic touch, right?
We should expect to see Young and Wesley dominate next year, right?
Young and Wesley might not even be on the roster next year. KU will have Withey, Traylor, Ellis, Peters, Lucas, and possibly Jakarr Sampson. We will be loaded once again next season.
Why aren't Young and Wesley developing? Does Danny believe they're not worthy of developing?
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In fact of all of the "blue bloods" in college basketball KU is the worst at developing big men.
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http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=2-jeff-withey&p1=thomas-gipson
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withey does own him in blocks though
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http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=2-jeff-withey&p1=thomas-gipson
/thread. Jedi mind trick didn't work this time.
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
just wondering what big men ku coaches have developed outside of 4 and 5 star guys :dunno:
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
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http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=2-jeff-withey&p1=thomas-gipson
Yeah, Withey is much better than Gipson, and it's not even close. If you took a look at their stats for Big 12 games it would be even more lopsided. Withey is going to be the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year. You guys are all delusional and in denial. It's fascinating stuff. I mean just take a look at the stats from their last head-to-head matchup:
Jeff Withey, C 36 6-8 0-0 6-7 6 11 1 1 9 1 2 18
Thomas Gipson, F 17 2-5 0-0 3-4 4 8 1 0 1 0 3 7
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title. You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck. You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement. It's hilariously pathetic.
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title. You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck. You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement. It's hilariously pathetic.
only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did. also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title. You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck. You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement. It's hilariously pathetic.
only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did. also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size
Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.
Withey: 11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,
Gipson: 5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title. You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck. You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement. It's hilariously pathetic.
only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did. also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size
Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.
Withey: 11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,
Gipson: 5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg
:lol: :lol: :lol:
gipson doesn't play much for us though
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
just wondering what big men ku coaches have developed outside of 4 and 5 star guys :dunno:
For the last time, this thread is highlighting the fact that just because a guy is a 4/5-star recruit does not mean he's automatically going to be good. Look at Perry Jones III. Look at Wally Judge. Look at Jason Bennett. KU develops their big men better than any other program in the country. All of you clowns thought Withey sucked before the season started, and he just dropped a near triple-double on your asses the other night. Step out of your EMAW bubble for a second and take a look at reality.
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title. You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck. You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement. It's hilariously pathetic.
only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did. also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size
Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.
Withey: 11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,
Gipson: 5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg
:lol: :lol: :lol:
gipson doesn't play much for us though
Yeah, because he's not that good. Your frontline is horrible outside of Samuels.
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title. You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck. You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement. It's hilariously pathetic.
only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did. also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size
Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.
Withey: 11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,
Gipson: 5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg
:lol: :lol: :lol:
gipson doesn't play much for us though
Yeah, because he's not that good. Your frontline is horrible outside of Samuels.
you only say samuels because he owned Robinson, but whatev
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title. You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck. You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement. It's hilariously pathetic.
only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did. also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size
Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.
Withey: 11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,
Gipson: 5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg
:lol: :lol: :lol:
gipson doesn't play much for us though
Yeah, because he's not that good. Your frontline is horrible outside of Samuels.
you only say samuels because he owned Robinson, but whatev
He didn't own anything. He dropped a couple threes and played his best game of the season, and K-State still lost. T-Rob is in the lead for National Player of the Year.
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title. You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck. You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement. It's hilariously pathetic.
only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did. also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size
Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.
Withey: 11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,
Gipson: 5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg
:lol: :lol: :lol:
gipson doesn't play much for us though
Yeah, because he's not that good. Your frontline is horrible outside of Samuels.
you only say samuels because he owned Robinson, but whatev
He didn't own anything. He dropped a couple threes and played his best game of the season, and K-State still lost. T-Rob is in the lead for National Player of the Year.
non factor in mhk though. i guess i expected more from the NPOY
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Total non-factor was one rebound shy of a double double and helped KU sweep the grapes on the way to 44-3.
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Total non-factor was one rebound shy of a double double and helped KU sweep the grapes on the way to 44-3.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
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Jeff Withey just swatted another shot in AFH West. #mostimprovedplayerinthecountry
:love: :love: :love:
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I will admit it's too bad Judge and Bennett didn't stay. They both would've been better than Withey.
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guys, I'm looking at the stats here, and thomas gipson is pretty much just as good as jeff withey even though he's several years younger and is coached by functioning retards rather than danny "the fixer" manning
it's baffling -- does this have something to do with gip's beard?
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I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective!
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do not know if Danny Manning is a great coach. do know that every KU person I've talked to who has met the guy says he is not a particularly friendly/nice individual
(by "every KU person I've talked to" I mean one guy in a bar)
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
just wondering what big men ku coaches have developed outside of 4 and 5 star guys :dunno:
For the last time, this thread is highlighting the fact that just because a guy is a 4/5-star recruit does not mean he's automatically going to be good. Look at Perry Jones III. Look at Wally Judge. Look at Jason Bennett. KU develops their big men better than any other program in the country. All of you clowns thought Withey sucked before the season started, and he just dropped a near triple-double on your asses the other night. Step out of your EMAW bubble for a second and take a look at reality.
this part of your statement is very confusing considering how often you talk about how good your 4/5 star recruits are going to be
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guys, I'm looking at the stats here, and thomas gipson is pretty much just as good as jeff withey even though he's several years younger and is coached by functioning retards rather than danny "the fixer" manning
it's baffling -- does this have something to do with gip's beard?
I thought he was a walk on freshman :dunno: Welp
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I'm not sure I get the whole Withey vs. Gipson comparison.
You are comparing a 7'-0" Junior vs. a 6'-7" true freshman who is 3 years younger.
Yes Witheys stats are way up this year but his minutes per game have increased 4x.
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KU fans often confuse improvement with playing time.
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title. You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck. You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement. It's hilariously pathetic.
only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did. also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size
Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.
Withey: 11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,
Gipson: 5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yet their season stats are similar. Congrats on Withey sucking the first half of the year, I guess :dunno:
Aren't you the one who always says you can't have selective memory and only look at a time period when we talk football. You look like an ass
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And if you think Danny Manning is turning down awesome head coaching jobs at every turn because he loves KU so much, you're the most delusional one here
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Yet their season stats are similar. Congrats on Withey sucking the first half of the year, I guess :dunno:
See? Manning improved him from the first half to the second half.
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Congrats on your 36th ranked, 4th year junior averaging 1 pt and 1 rebound more than our unranked freshman Gipson
pfft
In 5 more minutes per game. :lol:
Our freshman is willing and able to kick TRob's ass, something I don't think Withey has the stones to do.
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And if you think Danny Manning is turning down awesome head coaching jobs at every turn because he loves KU so much, you're the most delusional one here
Pffft. You're undervaluing the appeal of being Lawrentucky's second biggest celebrity.
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goFULLBLOWNDENIAL.com
:love: :love: :love:
denial of what? that KU is good at basketball? no one ever said that you mommy. you need a life.
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Guys i've been thinking about this and I think beems might be right. Bill Self's coaching staff might actually be better than Scott Drew's. This was his original point. So 'grats beems. Mission accomplished, assuming the mission was to have better basketball coaches than Baylor.
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I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective!
As I look for a flattering image of an ex girlfriend so people I don't know will stop making fun of my totally not fat gf.
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Guys i've been thinking about this and I think beems might be right. Bill Self's coaching staff might actually be better than Scott Drew's. This was his original point. So 'grats beems. Mission accomplished, assuming the mission was to have better basketball coaches than Baylor.
Oh yea, maybe I misunderstood the thread. Congrats on the better coaching than Baylor, Beems
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JFC, Beems' validation levels are near an all-time high.
:facepalm:
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Guys i've been thinking about this and I think beems might be right. Bill Self's coaching staff might actually be better than Scott Drew's. This was his original point. So 'grats beems. Mission accomplished, assuming the mission was to have better basketball coaches than Baylor.
Codename: Defeat White Button Up
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This thread is full-on comedy gold. Thanks, OregonMidget.
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What a bunch of retards. So delusional. 44-3.
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KU fans often confuse improvement with playing time.
Yes, because the two are mutually exclusive. God, you guys are dumb. I hope for the sake of K-State's academic integrity that most of you didn't actually go to school there.
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title. You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck. You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement. It's hilariously pathetic.
only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did. also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size
Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.
Withey: 11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,
Gipson: 5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yet their season stats are similar. Congrats on Withey sucking the first half of the year, I guess :dunno:
Aren't you the one who always says you can't have selective memory and only look at a time period when we talk football. You look like an ass
:facepalm:
K-State played a piss poor non-con schedule, while KU played Kentucky, Duke, Ohio State, etc, etc. And the whole point is that Withey has improved. Are you really this dense?
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KU fans often confuse improvement with playing time.
Yes, because the two are mutually exclusive. God, you guys are dumb. I hope for the sake of K-State's academic integrity that most of you didn't actually go to school there.
Do you have an extra 23rd chromosome? Honestly, for the sake of KU's academic integrity, I hope you didn't actually go there. His numbers per game have gone up tremendously (good job, takes HBBIQ to spot that) but per 40 minutes, his points AND rebounds have gone down. I credit Danny Manning. A true miracle worker.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas/2-jeff-withey?per_game=1&per_40=1&tempo_neutral=1&totals=1&plusminus=1&game_type=1&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas/2-jeff-withey?per_game=1&per_40=1&tempo_neutral=1&totals=1&plusminus=1&game_type=1&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct)
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You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others. Good grief. I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkara.allthingsd.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Firony3.jpeg&hash=fc14c80e5c717d5729dd5f0372985dfa78bfe888)
Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title. You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck. You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement. It's hilariously pathetic.
only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did. also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size
Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.
Withey: 11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,
Gipson: 5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yet their season stats are similar. Congrats on Withey sucking the first half of the year, I guess :dunno:
Aren't you the one who always says you can't have selective memory and only look at a time period when we talk football. You look like an ass
:facepalm:
K-State played a piss poor non-con schedule, while KU played Kentucky, Duke, Ohio State, etc, etc. And the whole point is that Withey has improved. Are you really this dense?
I'm not sure if piss poor is a fair term, beems.
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KU fans often confuse improvement with playing time.
Yes, because the two are mutually exclusive. God, you guys are dumb. I hope for the sake of K-State's academic integrity that most of you didn't actually go to school there.
Do you have an extra 23rd chromosome? Honestly, for the sake of KU's academic integrity, I hope you didn't actually go there. His numbers per game have gone up tremendously (good job, takes HBBIQ to spot that) but per 40 minutes, his points AND rebounds have gone down. I credit Danny Manning. A true miracle worker.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas/2-jeff-withey?per_game=1&per_40=1&tempo_neutral=1&totals=1&plusminus=1&game_type=1&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas/2-jeff-withey?per_game=1&per_40=1&tempo_neutral=1&totals=1&plusminus=1&game_type=1&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct)
See, you guys have no critical thinking ability. You just rely on arbitrary numbers to make your points without taking certain factors into account. First of all, Withey's minutes last year came against weak competition, at the end of blowouts. This year, he is playing everybody. Also, his free throw percentage is way up (around 84%). His improvement over the course of the season has been incredible. He's averaging 11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg against Big 12 competition. He was one block shy of a triple double against the grapes, and you guys still can't give credit where credit is due. You are beyond hope. I guess that's what happens when you get 44-3'ed.
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He is good, Beems. But he's getting worse, which is really sad. Just think of what a real Big Man U could have done with him.
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Thread summary:
BMW: "Hey guys, validate us! Validate our coaching staff! Validate Jeff Withey!"
goEMAW: "Na we're good"
BMW: "You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)."
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I like Jeff Withey.
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Thread summary:
BMW: "Hey guys, validate us! Validate our coaching staff! Validate Jeff Withey!"
goEMAW: "Na we're good"
BMW: "You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)."
:lol:
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Thread summary:
BMW: "Hey guys, validate us! Validate our coaching staff! Validate Jeff Withey!"
goEMAW: "Na we're good"
BMW: "You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)."
:lol:
Yeah, that was good.
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I think Manning's biggest accomplishment this year was keeping Robinson out of jail.
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KU fans often confuse improvement with playing time.
Yes, because the two are mutually exclusive. God, you guys are dumb. I hope for the sake of K-State's academic integrity that most of you didn't actually go to school there.
Do you have an extra 23rd chromosome? Honestly, for the sake of KU's academic integrity, I hope you didn't actually go there. His numbers per game have gone up tremendously (good job, takes HBBIQ to spot that) but per 40 minutes, his points AND rebounds have gone down. I credit Danny Manning. A true miracle worker.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas/2-jeff-withey?per_game=1&per_40=1&tempo_neutral=1&totals=1&plusminus=1&game_type=1&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas/2-jeff-withey?per_game=1&per_40=1&tempo_neutral=1&totals=1&plusminus=1&game_type=1&chart1=points_avg&chart2=minutes_avg&chart3=fg_pct)
Why do you do this to yourself beems
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Jeff Withey is a key reason KU will likely win another league title. Good for Self/Manning to finally get him to play like a Top 30 prospect.
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Jeff Withey is a key reason KU will likely win another league title. Good for Self/Manning to finally give him the playing time to play like a Top 30 prospect.
fyp
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Thread summary:
BMW: "Hey guys, validate us! Validate our coaching staff! Validate Jeff Withey!"
goEMAW: "Na we're good"
BMW: "You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)."
:lol:
Went straight to Page 5 to see if I needed to read this thread. Thanks for the recap.....DNR.
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When I visited Baylor for my preseason postcard last fall, Perry Jones told me that he only participated in one summer camp that involved top collegians. Not only did he skip the main events that were sponsored by Nike, Jones told me he didn't even know about them. (Probably just a coincidence that Baylor is an adidas school.) I have to believe that if Jones spent his summer going up against high-level competition instead of working out by himself in Waco that he would be a much better and tougher player.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/02/20/Hoop.Thoughts/1.html
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When I visited Baylor for my preseason postcard last fall, Perry Jones told me that he only participated in one summer camp that involved top collegians. Not only did he skip the main events that were sponsored by Nike, Jones told me he didn't even know about them. (Probably just a coincidence that Baylor is an adidas school.) I have to believe that if Jones spent his summer going up against high-level competition instead of working out by himself in Waco that he would be a much better and tougher player.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/02/20/Hoop.Thoughts/1.html
Wow, makes you really count your blessings for having an elite apparel contract with Nike.
There are certainly less fortunate out there like Baylor and KU.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/02/20/Hoop.Thoughts/1.html
I'm done with Seth Davis. Done. He absolutely has no idea what he's talking about in terms of efficiency. I mean, I don't even...
It doesn't account for efficiency.
If you're a true, hardcore college basketball fan, you know all about efficiency rankings, also known as tempo-free stats. They sprang from the brilliant mind of Ken Pomeroy. His site, KenPom.com, is a bountiful source of useful information. I check it almost every day, and I use Ken's nuggets frequently in my columns and television analysis.
However, these numbers have no place in the bracketing process. None. They tell us a great deal about why a team wins, but that is far less important than knowing whether it wins. Believe it or not, sometimes the less efficient team still ends up with more points.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/02/20/Hoop.Thoughts/1.html
I'm done with Seth Davis. Done. He absolutely has no idea what he's talking about in terms of efficiency. I mean, I don't even...
It doesn't account for efficiency.
If you're a true, hardcore college basketball fan, you know all about efficiency rankings, also known as tempo-free stats. They sprang from the brilliant mind of Ken Pomeroy. His site, KenPom.com, is a bountiful source of useful information. I check it almost every day, and I use Ken's nuggets frequently in my columns and television analysis.
However, these numbers have no place in the bracketing process. None. They tell us a great deal about why a team wins, but that is far less important than knowing whether it wins. Believe it or not, sometimes the less efficient team still ends up with more points.
start a twitter war with him?? :pray:
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That's a shame. I've enjoyed his twitter feed since it got hacked.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/02/20/Hoop.Thoughts/1.html
I'm done with Seth Davis. Done. He absolutely has no idea what he's talking about in terms of efficiency. I mean, I don't even...
It doesn't account for efficiency.
If you're a true, hardcore college basketball fan, you know all about efficiency rankings, also known as tempo-free stats. They sprang from the brilliant mind of Ken Pomeroy. His site, KenPom.com, is a bountiful source of useful information. I check it almost every day, and I use Ken's nuggets frequently in my columns and television analysis.
However, these numbers have no place in the bracketing process. None. They tell us a great deal about why a team wins, but that is far less important than knowing whether it wins. Believe it or not, sometimes the less efficient team still ends up with more points.
start a twitter war with him?? :pray:
Done.
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Hmmmm...
Ken Pomeroy @kenpomeroy
@ksu_FAN That's not exactly what he said.
In response to:
ksu_FAN @ksu_FAN
@kenpomeroy Please address @SethDavisHoops comment on efficiency: "sometimes the less efficient team still ends up with more points".
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:lol:
Well this is just confirming MIR that kenpom isn't Superman. Guy can't even read.
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Hmmmm...
Ken Pomeroy @kenpomeroy
@ksu_FAN That's not exactly what he said.
In response to:
ksu_FAN @ksu_FAN
@kenpomeroy Please address @SethDavisHoops comment on efficiency: "sometimes the less efficient team still ends up with more points".
Did you tell him that it was exactly what he said?
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I'm totally skipping the kenpom concert at this year's big 12 tourney.
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Did you tell him that it was exactly what he said?
ksu_FAN @ksu_FAN
@kenpomeroy Its hard for me to see that he was saying otherwise. And most of his points defending the RPI are flawed at best.
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I knew when I woke up today it would be a great day.
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Oh man, our resident numbers guy is mixing with the elite. Big day for goEMAW, fellas
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Licensing fees?