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http://curtiskitchen.com/will-k-state-fans-ever-embrace-frank-martin/
"Will K-State fans ever embrace Frank Martin"
What a bunch of BS. I hate this kind of crap.
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Being a townie and all, I know a lot of K-State fans. I have never, EVER, heard of someone staying home because of Martin. What a piece of crap article.
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I thiiinnnkkk I'm gooonnaaaa :barf:
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I don't even know what to say.
I'm without speech.
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To sum up, he confirmed you and sys. Said no one goes to basketball games because we're good at football again. And that another reason people don't go to games is because Frank yells and stuff.
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interesting article. we've been good in bball for a while now, it may not be as fun anymore.
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wtf kind of trash article is this
So, while folks figure out how close they want to stand, or sit, or get to Martin, they lean back while they assess. They are not emotionally invested. They aren’t angry, sad, happy, reserved or even apathetic. They’re simply watching.
what a terrible piece of journalistic effort.
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I don' know who this Kitchen fellow is, but he is going to get a full on verbal assault from the tip to the buzzer the next time SF is in the OOD. :chainsaw:
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if i was kitchen and read this thread, i'd be thinking that i did a pretty good job.
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there's probably some truth in there somewhere. However most of it is crap.
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if i was kitchen and read this thread, i'd be thinking that i did a pretty good job.
Yes. I also hope that leads to him thinking that he'll be able to donate more than $10 to the next goEMAW philanthropy.
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DNR, but I do think the MU/BU attendances were lowered by the Cotton Bowl. The MU game for obvious reasons, and the BU game because a lot of foagies are still satisfied with the bowl and don't need bball yet. FYBS.
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I'm thinking Kitchen is trying to go full Whitlock and simply say stuff to get a reaction. At least I hope.
With students at games it will be fine. And despite what some here have said, the crowd Tuesday was pretty good. Disappointed with the empties, but still good.
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I'm thinking Kitchen is trying to go full Whitlock and simply say stuff to get a reaction. At least I hope.
He should've combo'd in the names and contact info of more DUs to really piss goEMAW off.
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It's like this board forgets who we are from time to time.
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I'm thinking Kitchen is trying to go full Whitlock and simply say stuff to get a reaction. At least I hope.
With students at games it will be fine. And despite what some here have said, the crowd Tuesday was pretty good. Disappointed with the empties, but still good.
At least with Fatlock you could tell he was :bait: with his obviously racist comments and his rampant uncle tomming of KU. This is just a crap piece.
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What a ridiculous article.
The attendance and fan support has been fine this year.
We played our last home prior to Baylor when 35,000 of our fans were in Dallas and our students on holiday break. We played the Baylor game with our students still not having returned on campus. It's not that hard to rough ridin' understand why the only section of the arena not at full capacity was the student section.
Even with that taken into consideration, the crowd was loud and into it then entire game.
We've got problems with this team and none of them have to do with fan support for Frank Martin or disinterest in the basketball problem.
JFC. We seriously have the dumbest people in America covering Kansas State athletics.
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I have no problem with Kitchen wanting to explore that thesis if he so desires. The issue for me is that he jumps from thesis to conclusion with no effort to support it with anything other than a "few responses" on his website. Find some actual people to talk to. Lay out some concrete things that have changed in the atmosphere, not these vague allusions to "disconnect." On top of that, don't base these generalities on two winter break games.
Bottom line, it's just another Kitchen article that's poor from a technical standpoint, whatever you think of the topic. And it's why Kitchen is running a blog instead of covering the K-State beat for the Star/Eagle.
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It's like this board forgets who we are from time to time.
i know. i'll check with ron to confirm, but i'm pretty sure this is what it felt like towards the end of the roman empire.
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What a bunch of garbage. I didn't know he was this stupid.
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It's like this board forgets who we are from time to time.
i know. i'll check with ron to confirm, but i'm pretty sure this is what it felt like towards the end of the roman empire.
next time someone tries to do a rebel board, they should refrain from enticing posters from ksf and gpc to join it. once they come along, it's no longer a rebel board.
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I didn't agree with the article. I think the general theme he's hitting on, basketball isn't supported with the fervor that it was a few years ago, which is partially true, is based on a foundation of two points:
1) It's really hard to have sustained success in football and men's basketball for a prolonged period of time when you have a relatively small fan base (i.e. there are finite resources; you must split them somehow, and one side will most likely get screwed). He mentions this. However, I think every school makes this decision when it hits that crossroads. And, honestly, the majority of schools pick football. It's not unique.
2) Frank Martin is a successful coach. I mean, for God's sakes, he's up there with Tex Winter in terms of wins during a certain time frame. However, and I use this analogy a lot, we like the sausage (the season in retrospect), but we hate seeing how it's made (individual losses, strange lineup decisions, crazy motivational tactics, etc.). He doesn't directly mention this.
I don't think the fans disconnect with Frank as much as they've embraced football (regardless of LHC Bill Snyder). The amount of damage that was done to the basketball program when Wefald went full throttle football in the 90's is still being corrected. It was absolutely necessary for the university, long-term, but it did long-term harm to the basketball program. That, combined with the dominance Kansas asserted over us for twenty years (while we did the same in football, for the most part) established a new identity for an entire generation. And that generation now has the money.
I do agree that Frank Martin is a brand. He transcends his program because of his personality. What most KSU fans don't recognize is that these good players that he's recruiting are coming here for Frank and not Kansas State, for the most part. We are relevant because Frank is a known and desired commodity. ESPN wants to show highlights of him. Jim Rome wants to talk about him.
I think Curtis is correct in the sense that there is going to be a tug-of-war between football and basketball in the coming years. I think he's incorrect that it's about Frank. I think it's because we only have so much love/money/time to go around.
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It's like this board forgets who we are from time to time.
i know. i'll check with ron to confirm, but i'm pretty sure this is what it felt like towards the end of the roman empire.
next time someone tries to do a rebel board, they should refrain from enticing posters from ksf and gpc to join it. once they come along, it's no longer a rebel board.
maybe this was dr00d's plan?
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I didn't agree with the article. I think the general theme he's hitting on, basketball isn't supported with the fervor that it was a few years ago, which is partially true, is based on a foundation of two points:
1) It's really hard to have sustained success in football and men's basketball for a prolonged period of time when you have a relatively small fan base (i.e. there are finite resources; you must split them somehow, and one side will most likely get screwed). He mentions this. However, I think every school makes this decision when it hits that crossroads. And, honestly, the majority of schools pick football. It's not unique.
2) Frank Martin is a successful coach. I mean, for God's sakes, he's up there with Tex Winter in terms of wins during a certain time frame. However, and I use this analogy a lot, we like the sausage (the season in retrospect), but we hate seeing how it's made (individual losses, strange lineup decisions, crazy motivational tactics, etc.). He doesn't directly mention this.
I don't think the fans disconnect with Frank as much as they've embraced football (regardless of LHC LHC Bill Snyder). The amount of damage that was done to the basketball program when Wefald went full throttle football in the 90's is still being corrected. It was absolutely necessary for the university, long-term, but it did long-term harm to the basketball program. That, combined with the dominance Kansas asserted over us for twenty years (while we did the same in football, for the most part) established a new identity for an entire generation. And that generation now has the money.
I do agree that Frank Martin is a brand. He transcends his program because of his personality. What most KSU fans don't recognize is that these good players that he's recruiting are coming here for Frank and not Kansas State, for the most part. We are relevant because Frank is a known and desired commodity. ESPN wants to show highlights of him. Jim Rome wants to talk about him.
I think Curtis is correct in the sense that there is going to be a tug-of-war between football and basketball in the coming years. I think he's incorrect that it's about Frank. I think it's because we only have so much love/money/time to go around.
Amazing analysis. Thanks Pan.
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Ethical compass my ass.
It was a game during the break and the AD was selling tickets for $50 a seat.
If you want to blame anybody for the perceived lackluster atmosphere, look at the AD. Give the damn things away if you have to, just get it filled.
The lower rungs of Sec 18 were just as angered up as I've ever seen them(with a few exceptions of course).
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I'm curious, is the following statement accurate? I didn't think so.*
And, sometimes, even in a nationally prominent Baylor/K-State game’s biggest moments, the loudest cheer of this night, by far, goes to the football coach seated in the crowd just as it always does.
*(whatever "sometimes the loudest cheer goes to the football coach just as it always does" is supposed to mean)
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Panjandrum isn't dumb.
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I'm curious, is the following statement accurate? I didn't think so.*
And, sometimes, even in a nationally prominent Baylor/K-State game’s biggest moments, the loudest cheer of this night, by far, goes to the football coach seated in the crowd just as it always does.
*(whatever "sometimes the loudest cheer goes to the football coach just as it always does" is supposed to mean)
It's BS, Sprads' trey to take lead in 2nd, and later Angel's trey to take lead were the loudest, IMO. Roars.
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did not read, but any story that has a few Posnaski-esque "dot dot dot" lines is big-time in my book. Well done, Curtis Kitchen. :thumbs:
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chum. I say f this place. I'm bequething PP/NN to _FAN and Powercat Posse.
Let's gagksu again and humiliate this tuck den.
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chum1 hates lebron. :lol:
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I refuse to read a Kitchen article unless there are at least 2 rhetorical questions. Someone tell me if I can click on that....
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Let's gagksu again and humiliate this tuck den.
"goEMAW dumbass thread of the day" :love:
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chum1 hates lebron. :lol:
"goEMAW dumbass video of the day" :love:
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I do think we need to get more angried up. Harder to do with success
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I do think we need to get more angried up. Harder to do with success
The next weeknight game is at 8 p.m. Extra hour of anger juice.
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I'm not entirely sure who Curtis Kitchen is.
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Frank just needs to hang on a few years until Bill's gone. Then Sean will run us back into the ground and the tucks will embrace Frank fully.
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Frank Martin is the K-State brand I like the most at this point.
#frankite4life
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Frank Martin is the K-State brand I like the most at this point.
#frankite4life
+1
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I do think we need to get more angried up. Harder to do with success
The next weeknight game is at 8 p.m. Extra hour of anger juice.
As long as there is R-A-B there will be anger.
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Frank Martin is the K-State brand I like the most at this point.
#frankite4life
:surprised:
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I do think we need to get more angried up. Harder to do with success
The next weeknight game is at 8 p.m. Extra hour of anger juice.
As long as there is R-A-B there will be anger.
_fan can we get a "Angriest fans in America fueled by R-A-B" shirt please.
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I do think we need to get more angried up. Harder to do with success
The next weeknight game is at 8 p.m. Extra hour of anger juice.
As long as there is R-A-B there will be anger.
:thumbs:
:curse:
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[quoted]id not read, but any story that has a few Posnaski-esque "dot dot dot"[/quote]
Celine not Posnaski. :facepalm:
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I didn't agree with the article. I think the general theme he's hitting on, basketball isn't supported with the fervor that it was a few years ago, which is partially true, is based on a foundation of two points:
1) It's really hard to have sustained success in football and men's basketball for a prolonged period of time when you have a relatively small fan base (i.e. there are finite resources; you must split them somehow, and one side will most likely get screwed). He mentions this. However, I think every school makes this decision when it hits that crossroads. And, honestly, the majority of schools pick football. It's not unique.
2) Frank Martin is a successful coach. I mean, for God's sakes, he's up there with Tex Winter in terms of wins during a certain time frame. However, and I use this analogy a lot, we like the sausage (the season in retrospect), but we hate seeing how it's made (individual losses, strange lineup decisions, crazy motivational tactics, etc.). He doesn't directly mention this.
I don't think the fans disconnect with Frank as much as they've embraced football (regardless of LHC Bill Snyder). The amount of damage that was done to the basketball program when Wefald went full throttle football in the 90's is still being corrected. It was absolutely necessary for the university, long-term, but it did long-term harm to the basketball program. That, combined with the dominance Kansas asserted over us for twenty years (while we did the same in football, for the most part) established a new identity for an entire generation. And that generation now has the money.
I do agree that Frank Martin is a brand. He transcends his program because of his personality. What most KSU fans don't recognize is that these good players that he's recruiting are coming here for Frank and not Kansas State, for the most part. We are relevant because Frank is a known and desired commodity. ESPN wants to show highlights of him. Jim Rome wants to talk about him.
I think Curtis is correct in the sense that there is going to be a tug-of-war between football and basketball in the coming years. I think he's incorrect that it's about Frank. I think it's because we only have so much love/money/time to go around.
Good post. To dovetail about the brand coach v. brand school look at some of the bluest of blue bloods fighting that battle. Kentucky was running coaches out to get a brand coach to rehab their brand school, coach Cal obviously.
I wonder how much the enthusiasm has dropped for Frank not because of his fault but because he came in so high with the amazing recruiting class of MB and essentially BW. That first year and really second year was an incredibly tough act to follow.
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Anger.
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Would you feast your eyes on that! Makes me angry just lookin at it.
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Good post. To dovetail about the brand coach v. brand school look at some of the bluest of blue bloods fighting that battle. Kentucky was running coaches out to get a brand coach to rehab their brand school, coach Cal obviously.
I wonder how much the enthusiasm has dropped for Frank not because of his fault but because he came in so high with the amazing recruiting class of MB and essentially BW. That first year and really second year was an incredibly tough act to follow.
I don't think enthusiasm has dropped for Frank at all. I think that's kind of a straw man. I think we're facing the high-class problem of trying to find support for two Top 25 programs. This is uncharted water for our university. Making this about Frank vs. Bill is trying to make a very simple to explain/understand problem more interesting.
The real question is, "Why do KSU fans seem to like football more than basketball?" I can assure you that the real answer to that question has nothing to do with Frank or Bill. We still would have the same issue if Gary Patterson was coaching KSU in the Cotton Bowl last Friday night, or if Bob Huggins were still coaching our basketball team.
This school, and it's most capable financial supporters, favor football because we won a crap ton for a decade and beat the snot out of KU more often than not. We're still looking to break the "glass ceiling" that will create a lot of basketball support, if you will.
This school is going to support football until basketball gives it a reason to favor it. That means a Final Four and sustained success.
Bo Ryan has won almost 300 games in Madison, he's gone to four Sweet 16's and one Elite 8., won three Big Ten regular season and two post season titles, and it's safe to say that if someone put a gun to Barry Alvarez's head tomorrow and told him he could only keep Bielema vs. Ryan, he'd pick Bielema every time.
Basketball rarely wins over football. That's just how it goes.
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In the late party of February, early part of March this notion that we don't support Frank Martin's basketball program is going to sound so Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
I seriously can't even believe this is being discussed.
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Good post. To dovetail about the brand coach v. brand school look at some of the bluest of blue bloods fighting that battle. Kentucky was running coaches out to get a brand coach to rehab their brand school, coach Cal obviously.
I wonder how much the enthusiasm has dropped for Frank not because of his fault but because he came in so high with the amazing recruiting class of MB and essentially BW. That first year and really second year was an incredibly tough act to follow.
I don't think enthusiasm has dropped for Frank at all. I think that's kind of a straw man. I think we're facing the high-class problem of trying to find support for two Top 25 programs. This is uncharted water for our university. Making this about Frank vs. Bill is trying to make a very simple to explain/understand problem more interesting.
The real question is, "Why do KSU fans seem to like football more than basketball?" I can assure you that the real answer to that question has nothing to do with Frank or Bill. We still would have the same issue if Gary Patterson was coaching KSU in the Cotton Bowl last Friday night, or if Bob Huggins were still coaching our basketball team.
This school, and it's most capable financial supporters, favor football because we won a crap ton for a decade and beat the snot out of KU more often than not. We're still looking to break the "glass ceiling" that will create a lot of basketball support, if you will.
This school is going to support football until basketball gives it a reason to favor it. That means a Final Four and sustained success.
Bo Ryan has won almost 300 games in Madison, he's gone to four Sweet 16's and one Elite 8., won three Big Ten regular season and two post season titles, and it's safe to say that if someone put a gun to Barry Alvarez's head tomorrow and told him he could only keep Bielema vs. Ryan, he'd pick Bielema every time.
Basketball rarely wins over football. That's just how it goes.
you're making up a "basketball support is suffering myth" just like kitchen. The only difference from past bball years is the 18 game league schedule leads more conference games before students are back.
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Good post. To dovetail about the brand coach v. brand school look at some of the bluest of blue bloods fighting that battle. Kentucky was running coaches out to get a brand coach to rehab their brand school, coach Cal obviously.
I wonder how much the enthusiasm has dropped for Frank not because of his fault but because he came in so high with the amazing recruiting class of MB and essentially BW. That first year and really second year was an incredibly tough act to follow.
I don't think enthusiasm has dropped for Frank at all. I think that's kind of a straw man. I think we're facing the high-class problem of trying to find support for two Top 25 programs. This is uncharted water for our university. Making this about Frank vs. Bill is trying to make a very simple to explain/understand problem more interesting.
The real question is, "Why do KSU fans seem to like football more than basketball?" I can assure you that the real answer to that question has nothing to do with Frank or Bill. We still would have the same issue if Gary Patterson was coaching KSU in the Cotton Bowl last Friday night, or if Bob Huggins were still coaching our basketball team.
This school, and it's most capable financial supporters, favor football because we won a crap ton for a decade and beat the snot out of KU more often than not. We're still looking to break the "glass ceiling" that will create a lot of basketball support, if you will.
This school is going to support football until basketball gives it a reason to favor it. That means a Final Four and sustained success.
Bo Ryan has won almost 300 games in Madison, he's gone to four Sweet 16's and one Elite 8., won three Big Ten regular season and two post season titles, and it's safe to say that if someone put a gun to Barry Alvarez's head tomorrow and told him he could only keep Bielema vs. Ryan, he'd pick Bielema every time.
Basketball rarely wins over football. That's just how it goes.
you're making up a basketball support is suffering myth just like kitchen.
It's not suffering. I just said the fan base, overall, favors football, and it will until basketball gives it a reason not to do so.
Once the students get back, the OOD will be filled up again, and like 909 said, no one will be talking about a lack of support for any reason.
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i wonder if games on tuesday nights versus saturdays at noon have anything to do with how many fans actually show up, etc and it all has anything to do with this stupid conversation.
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the support for the basketball team is unchanged
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Nigel Malone like a milion years ago"KSU FB players get love during FB season. KSU BB players get love year round".
It hurts Malone.
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Nigel Malone like a milion years ago"KSU FB players get love during FB season. KSU BB players get love year round".
It hurts Malone.
Nigel may find things a bit different after 10-3.
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This read is a classic case of the "I'm bored as a journalist and i've already written a million pieces that are all the same. I feel like stirring some crap up today". Journalism Boardem 101. :gocho:
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there's probably some truth in there somewhere. However most of it is crap.
the truth is in that the crowds have sucked and that football is hurting the thing that we love.
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there's probably some truth in there somewhere. However most of it is crap.
the truth is in that the crowds have sucked and that football is hurting the thing that we love.
How long you gonna beat this drum?
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It was a game during the break and the AD was selling tickets for $50 a seat.
If you want to blame anybody for the perceived lackluster atmosphere, look at the AD.
very fair and relevant point.
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How long you gonna beat this drum?
until it is fixed or i get bored with it.
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panj, i appreciate your posts on this topic.
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Football has had quite a few empties this year as well. The break and the 18 game B12 shed has had it's effect on bball, but like others have said the AD didn't do itself any favors by not finding a way to fill both BSFS and OOD when it was needed.
The real problem is that it seems to be that the article is attempting do drum up negative sentiments. Or at least highlight them.
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Football has had quite a few empties this year as well. The break and the 18 game B12 shed has had it's effect on bball, but like others have said the AD didn't do itself any favors by not finding a way to fill both BSFS and OOD when it was needed.
The real problem is that it seems to be that the article is attempting do drum up negative sentiments. Or at least highlight them.
I wouldn't go that far. I think he was just writing a piece about something he feels, but it was off the mark because he misdiagnosed the actual problem.
I can assure you that he's not out to instigate anything negative.
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To me the big thing in selling seats when there are going to be seats avaliable is price point. If the extra tickets are around $20 or less, I don't think either program would ever have problems selling out. But Baylor was $40 I believe for GA, K-State simply has too many fans that aren't going to pay that and will settle for watching on TV. Disappointing, especially when you are playing a Top 10 team, but it is what it is.
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mizzou GA was $60
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To me the big thing in selling seats when there are going to be seats avaliable is price point. If the extra tickets are around $20 or less, I don't think either program would ever have problems selling out. But Baylor was $40 I believe for GA, K-State simply has too many fans that aren't going to pay that and will settle for watching on TV. Disappointing, especially when you are playing a Top 10 team, but it is what it is.
Exactly. What makes no sense to me is it seems that those sections are less than half full so if the AD cut ticket prices in half, they'd make more money if that led to a sellout just in ticket sales. And, they'd make more in parking, concessions, and merch. Plus, you know, the arena would be full which would be nice.
But, I thought the empties in the Baylor game were in the student section and the general public had no access to those sections? Students should have to claim their winter break tickets so the AD can sell any unclaimed tickets if that's the case.
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To me the big thing in selling seats when there are going to be seats avaliable is price point. If the extra tickets are around $20 or less, I don't think either program would ever have problems selling out. But Baylor was $40 I believe for GA, K-State simply has too many fans that aren't going to pay that and will settle for watching on TV. Disappointing, especially when you are playing a Top 10 team, but it is what it is.
Exactly. What makes no sense to me is it seems that those sections are less than half full so if the AD cut ticket prices in half, they'd make more money if that led to a sellout just in ticket sales. And, they'd make more in parking, concessions, and merch. Plus, you know, the arena would be full which would be nice.
But, I thought the empties in the Baylor game were in the student section and the general public had no access to those sections? Students should have to claim their winter break tickets so the AD can sell any unclaimed tickets if that's the case.
Students were gone, so those seats were on sell for $40 as GA seats.
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those prices are rough ridin' outrageous
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those prices are rough ridin' outrageous
The available GA tickets have sold out pretty much each game, so price isn't the issue. The problem is students with tickets that don't show up. Student sections are waaaay oversold, but it's hardly ever an issue because most of the student tickets do not get used each game.
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man oh man
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snap
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those prices are rough ridin' outrageous
The available GA tickets have sold out pretty much each game, so price isn't the issue. The problem is students with tickets that don't show up. Student sections are waaaay oversold, but it's hardly ever an issue because most of the student tickets do not get used each game.
So I'm assuming that Baylor was part of the student tickets then. The $40 GA tickets sold out?
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those prices are rough ridin' outrageous
The available GA tickets have sold out pretty much each game, so price isn't the issue. The problem is students with tickets that don't show up. Student sections are waaaay oversold, but it's hardly ever an issue because most of the student tickets do not get used each game.
Well, they're outrageous to me. :ck:
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How hard is Kitchen laughing at this thread right now :jerk:
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those prices are rough ridin' outrageous
The available GA tickets have sold out pretty much each game, so price isn't the issue. The problem is students with tickets that don't show up. Student sections are waaaay oversold, but it's hardly ever an issue because most of the student tickets do not get used each game.
What about not selling out the football stadium?
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those prices are rough ridin' outrageous
The available GA tickets have sold out pretty much each game, so price isn't the issue. The problem is students with tickets that don't show up. Student sections are waaaay oversold, but it's hardly ever an issue because most of the student tickets do not get used each game.
What about not selling out the football stadium?
Seriously. Some folks will never have a grasp on what our fanbase is like.
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Support for Seff waning.
http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2342
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Support for Seff waning.
http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2342
:sdeek:
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Support for Seff waning.
http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2342
:sdeek:
Probably all of the people paying top dollar to see the Charlie Weis all-stars.
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Kitchen is really pretty terrible, always has been.
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Kitchen is really pretty terrible, always has been.
disagree wholeheartedly... this bored just loves to trash everyone who isn't black (cause of being spoiled by jeff martin),national (gottleib), and doesn't post here enough (meek and kitchen).
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Kitchen is really pretty terrible, always has been.
disagree wholeheartedly... this bored just loves to trash everyone who isn't black (cause of being spoiled by jeff martin),national (gottleib), and doesn't post here enough (meek and kitchen).
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everyone here rough ridin' loves austin
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Spoiled by Blackness: The goEMAW Story
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Spoiled by Blackness: The goEMAW Story
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everyone here rough ridin' loves austin
because he posts here a lot, like zmoney mentioned. no one really has a problem w/ smellinger, mostly because he's rarely says anything of interest. All of goEMAW has a huge boner for Rob Cassidy, and he works for gpc for chrissakes. I really like Bob Lutz, especially on twitter - wish he was on there more. I love the KU beat guys because they are all enormous homers and it's a joy to witness their homerism. Scotchy McScotcherson is great, and I can't say a bad thing about his replacement (PROBABLY CAUSE HE'S BLACK HUR HUR HUR). oscar Haertl seems like an absolute stud. Other than Kellis and Kitchen, (and maybe Mark Jannsen), I'm not sure there are any non-national non-black guys that are moderately disliked by goEMAW.
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Kitchen is really pretty terrible, always has been.
disagree wholeheartedly... this bored just loves to trash everyone who isn't black (cause of being spoiled by jeff martin),national (gottleib), and doesn't post here enough (meek and kitchen).
You think CK is good?
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everyone here rough ridin' loves austin
used to, you mean. meek is no longer culturally relevant.
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everyone here rough ridin' loves austin
used to, you mean. meek is no longer culturally relevant.
well, everyone but sys then.
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everyone here rough ridin' loves austin
used to, you mean. meek is no longer culturally relevant.
well, everyone but sys then.
The "no zeal no deal down with Austin Meek" cemented him as a journalistic hero in my mind.
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well, everyone but sys then.
i don't dislike him, but he just doesn't do anything anymore. doesn't post, doesn't tweet, doesn't write about the delicious kstate basketball wildcats. he's removed himself from the conversation.
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well, everyone but sys then.
i don't dislike him, but he just doesn't do anything anymore. doesn't post, doesn't tweet, doesn't write about the delicious kstate basketball wildcats. he's removed himself from the conversation.
wasn't his choice
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doesn't matter. i should have mentioned doesn't podcast with tully corcoran too.
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Squawkstin Beak, just now after his squawk ears burned:
Lloyd Noble Center. We meet again.
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kitchen was just a game early with his take. frank's a f'ng Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). so NOW angel isn't good enough to get PT? jesus.
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Curtis Kitchen is an unemployed dumbass.
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Crowd looks good tonight. Fans embrace Frank after the OU loss? :dunno:
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Crowd looks good tonight. Fans embrace Frank after the OU loss? :dunno:
chances are better that curty didn't realize a lot of the students were still on break last game.....and by chances are better that I mean obviously
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Is there anything on the face of the earth more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than critisizing reporters? Who really gives a eff what these journey school nerds think of a sport they never played? You are actually surprised when they puke out a column full of nonsense? OH and by the way, living in Wichita I have learned that Lutz and Heartl are two of the most pathetic sneaker-chasin' doorknobs that anyone could ever encounter. They despise ksu if they didn't derive some of their pathetic existence from calling our football games and covering our basketball they would be making the case of how the Wheatshockers are more deserving of being in the big12 than us.
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Is there anything on the face of the earth more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than critisizing reporters? Who really gives a eff what these journey school nerds think of a sport they never played? You are actually surprised when they puke out a column full of nonsense? OH and by the way, living in Wichita I have learned that Lutz and Heartl are two of the most pathetic sneaker-chasin' doorknobs that anyone could ever encounter. They despise ksu if they didn't derive some of their pathetic existence from calling our football games and covering our basketball they would be making the case of how the Wheatshockers are more deserving of being in the big12 than us.
This is really rough ridin' tuckish
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living in Wichita
You just made the wichita pak'rs hoops team starting play in april. Details to come.
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living in Wichita
You just made the wichita pak'rs hoops team starting play in april. Details to come.
Trim made it home tonight. How excited are you that Beems is on Twitter? :emawkid:
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Is there anything on the face of the earth more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than critisizing reporters? Who really gives a eff what these journey school nerds think of a sport they never played? You are actually surprised when they puke out a column full of nonsense? OH and by the way, living in Wichita I have learned that Lutz and Heartl are two of the most pathetic sneaker-chasin' doorknobs that anyone could ever encounter. They despise ksu if they didn't derive some of their pathetic existence from calling our football games and covering our basketball they would be making the case of how the Wheatshockers are more deserving of being in the big12 than us.
This is really rough ridin' tuckish
That's offensive, DO YOU WANT TO FIGHT?
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living in Wichita
You just made the wichita pak'rs hoops team starting play in april. Details to come.
Trim made it home tonight. How excited are you that Beems is on Twitter? :emawkid:
You're not on the team.
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reporters that say stupid things deserve to be mocked and pi'd mercilessly on twitter.
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Groove BACK: http://curtiskitchen.com/how-willie-got-his-groove-back/
There are some interesting quotes in there, particularly Frank talking about shot selection.