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Title: Our BCS Chances
Post by: The3ears on November 14, 2011, 08:37:32 PM
  Assume we win out. 

There are a total of 10 BCS slots.  6 big conf champs are automatic.  BCS rule allow one guaranteed BCS spot to a non-Big Six conference champion if finishes in the top 12 or in the top 16 and its ranking is higher than that of a conference champion with an automatic berth. 
Since Big east does not have a team ranked,  there should be at least one slot for them.  So there are only 3 "at large" slots left.

1. We won't win the big 12, (even OU or OSU both has two loses, we lose the tie break).  We cannot get the automatic bid.  So we can only hope for an at large bid.

2. Current BCS rule limits two teams from a conference,   OSU will still be ranked ahead of us even if they lose the last two (very unlikely against ISU).  For us to have a chance,  we need OU to lose two more games (At Baylor and vs OSU).   

3. BCS rule says  At-large candidates must have at least nine victories and finish in the top 14 in the final BCS standings.  We are currently #13.  That rank will improve as we win the remian 2 games.  So no problem on our qualification.

4. SEC will take one and only one at large slot. regarless. ( currently  LSU, Bama, Ark and SC are all ahead of us)

5. Clemson and VT shall meet at the ACC Champ game, so the loser should drop below us.

6. Pac10 has two teams ahead.  Oregon is #4.  it will remain ahead of us even if they lose to USC.   So it helps a great deal if Stanford lose another one.


Giving the great story we have this year,  We shall be selected by a BCS if:
A.  OU loses two more games
B.  Stanford lose another game.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 14, 2011, 08:47:45 PM
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.  OU loses two more games
B.  Stanford lose another game.

neither of those are occurring. and OU doesn't need two losses for us to be picked ahead of them.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Panjandrum on November 14, 2011, 09:07:07 PM
OU's loss will come late in the year, which hurts.  If we win out, we'll probably be Top 10 BCS, which helps.

Also, I'm sure the Fiesta Bowl is probably a little tired of having OU year after year.  They probably think they can sell more tickets if they get someone different for once.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: hemmy on November 14, 2011, 09:10:58 PM
0%
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Houstoncat93 on November 14, 2011, 09:11:32 PM
Stewart Mandel tweeted this morning that he though a 2 loss K-State goes to the Fiesta before a 2 loss Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 14, 2011, 09:12:28 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: bws on November 14, 2011, 09:26:33 PM

Not to mention karma wise we're owed a BCS invite after getting screwed by the orange in 2002...


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_20021207/ai_n11789842/ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_20021207/ai_n11789842/)
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: The3ears on November 14, 2011, 09:30:32 PM
That would be great!
 :ksu:
 
I should clarify what I meant to say:   we will be selected by BCS if the two happens.  But does not mean we have no chances if OU does not lose two more and Stanford does not lose.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 14, 2011, 09:35:33 PM

I should clarify what I meant to say:   we will be selected by BCS if the two happens.  But does not mean we have no chances if OU does not lose two more and Stanford does not lose.

^was not super-clarifying.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Panjandrum on November 14, 2011, 09:38:10 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.

There's nothing sexy about a 10-2 Oklahoma.

There's something extremely sexy about a 10-2 Kansas State.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 14, 2011, 09:44:06 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.

There's nothing sexy about a 10-2 Oklahoma.

There's something extremely sexy about a 10-2 Kansas State.

That's what we think, but does anybody else actually think that?
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 14, 2011, 09:45:56 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.

There's nothing sexy about a 10-2 Oklahoma.

There's something extremely sexy about a 10-2 Kansas State.

That's what we think

you're damn right.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: wetwillie on November 14, 2011, 09:46:19 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.

There's nothing sexy about a 10-2 Oklahoma.

There's something extremely sexy about a 10-2 Kansas State.


10-2 Oklahoma has little to play for, 10-2 K-State has everything to play for.  the thought of 11-1 OU and OSU makes me want to :barf:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Panjandrum on November 14, 2011, 09:50:07 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.

There's nothing sexy about a 10-2 Oklahoma.

There's something extremely sexy about a 10-2 Kansas State.

That's what we think, but does anybody else actually think that?

Fiesta Bowl rep at BSFS on Saturday.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Katpappy on November 14, 2011, 10:23:43 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.

There's nothing sexy about a 10-2 Oklahoma.

There's something extremely sexy about a 10-2 Kansas State.

That's what we think, but does anybody else actually think that?

Fiesta Bowl rep at BSFS on Saturday.
Wut?  We're playing Tex-ass on Saturday!  Or are you talking ISU game Dec. 3rd?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Duncan on November 14, 2011, 10:29:54 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.

There's nothing sexy about a 10-2 Oklahoma.

There's something extremely sexy about a 10-2 Kansas State.

That's what we think, but does anybody else actually think that?

Fiesta Bowl rep was at BSFS on Saturday.
Wut?  We're playing Tex-ass on Saturday!  Or are you talking ISU game Dec. 3rd?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 14, 2011, 10:54:21 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.

There's nothing sexy about a 10-2 Oklahoma.

There's something extremely sexy about a 10-2 Kansas State.

That's what we think, but does anybody else actually think that?

Fiesta Bowl rep at BSFS on Saturday.
Wut?  We're playing Tex-ass on Saturday!  Or are you talking ISU game Dec. 3rd?  :dunno:

I think he's referring to last Saturday.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Katpappy on November 14, 2011, 10:56:55 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.

There's nothing sexy about a 10-2 Oklahoma.

There's something extremely sexy about a 10-2 Kansas State.

That's what we think, but does anybody else actually think that?

Fiesta Bowl rep at BSFS last Saturday.
FYP  :dunno:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Panjandrum on November 14, 2011, 11:25:25 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.

There's nothing sexy about a 10-2 Oklahoma.

There's something extremely sexy about a 10-2 Kansas State.

That's what we think, but does anybody else actually think that?

Fiesta Bowl rep at BSFS last Saturday.
FYP  :dunno:

I didn't realize it was that ambiguous.  Yes, last Saturday.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Stevesie60 on November 14, 2011, 11:41:09 PM
If OU loses to OSU and we win out, I could see us getting picked over OU for the Fiesta.

There's nothing sexy about a 10-2 Oklahoma.

There's something extremely sexy about a 10-2 Kansas State.

That's what we think, but does anybody else actually think that?

Fiesta Bowl rep at BSFS last Saturday.
FYP  :dunno:

I didn't realize it was that ambiguous.  Yes, last Saturday.

It wasn't.
Title: Re: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: steve dave on November 15, 2011, 06:16:15 AM
0%
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 15, 2011, 07:29:59 AM
Yeah.  0%. Don't do this, guys.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: EllToPay on November 15, 2011, 07:47:05 AM
no chance. hope for dallas.

Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: kso_FAN on November 15, 2011, 08:02:36 AM
Its okay to talk about, but don't get your hopes up.

K-State fans have to be willing to take the Cotton Bowl and run all over the place with it.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: massofcatfan on November 15, 2011, 08:37:31 AM

Not to mention karma wise we're owed a BCS invite after getting screwed by the orange in 2002...


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_20021207/ai_n11789842/ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_20021207/ai_n11789842/)

and 2000 (Michigan)
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: O-town Kat on November 15, 2011, 08:56:49 AM
In a scenario where ksu and osu win out I think the Tostitos is likely
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Panjandrum on November 15, 2011, 09:13:44 AM
I'm going to happily drink the Kool-aid, tuck my shirt in reeeeeeeaaaal tight, and I'm going to hope for the Fiesta.

 :drink:

None of you can convince me otherwise.  None.  Of you.  Good day.

 :clac:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: kso_FAN on November 15, 2011, 09:43:00 AM
I'm going to happily drink the Kool-aid, tuck my shirt in reeeeeeeaaaal tight, and I'm going to hope for the Fiesta.

 :drink:

None of you can convince me otherwise.  None.  Of you.  Good day.

 :clac:

I'm good with this as long as our fanbase (most of which anticipated maybe a 6 win season) doesn't complain if we do end up in the Cotton.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 15, 2011, 09:54:46 AM
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Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Panjandrum on November 15, 2011, 10:52:20 AM
I'm going to happily drink the Kool-aid, tuck my shirt in reeeeeeeaaaal tight, and I'm going to hope for the Fiesta.

 :drink:

None of you can convince me otherwise.  None.  Of you.  Good day.

 :clac:

I'm good with this as long as our fanbase (most of which anticipated maybe a 6 win season) doesn't complain if we do end up in the Cotton.

Well, anyone who is mad at being in the Cotton Bowl is an idiot.  It's the freaking Cotton Bowl.

That said, all things considered, I'd kill to be in the BCS again.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: steve dave on November 15, 2011, 11:03:38 AM
My question is if we get the cotton if we lose to TX and beat ISU.  TX losing to MU has to help us here.  We will have lost the head to head with TX but I see them dropping at least one of @Baylor and @aTm.  Does a 2 loss OU still get into the BCS?  At large bids in order?:

Autos: LSU, OSU, Oregon, VTech/Clem Winner, Some BE loser team, Some B10 loser team

1 loss Bama
1 loss Stanford
Undefeated Houston
2 loss OU
1 loss Boise
Vtech and Clemson are probably playing again in their championship game and a 2 loss OU gets in ahead of either at 2 losses imo
Gotta think a 2 loss OU gets in ahead of any of the loser B10 schools with 2 losses
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 15, 2011, 11:21:21 AM
My question is if we get the cotton if we lose to TX and beat ISU.  TX losing to MU has to help us here.  We will have lost the head to head with TX but I see them dropping at least one of @Baylor and @aTm.  Does a 2 loss OU still get into the BCS?  At large bids in order?:

It's pretty simple. SEC, Pac 12, and Big 12 will each get an at-large bid, plus Houston or Boise for the 4th. The Big 12 at-large will be between OU and K-State. I don't see any realistic scenario where the Big 12 doesn't snag an at-large bid.

If K-State beats Texas, then it will be interesting to see whether OU or K-State, both 10-2, goes to Fiesta. Probably OU.

If K-State loses to Texas, then 10-2 OU definitely goes to Fiesta, and K-State maybe goes to Cotton. Remember, even though K-State will probably finish with a better record than Texas, the Big 12 bowls don't have to pick by record. Cotton could very well decide to take an 8-4 Texas over a 9-3 K-State.

Needless to say, it is very important that we beat Texas to ensure the Cotton Bowl, and keep our hopes alive for Fiesta. If not, San Antonio wouldn't be so bad.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: theKSU on November 15, 2011, 11:32:13 AM
NCG: LSU vs. OSU
Orange: Big East vs. Clemson
Rose: Oregon vs. Wisconsin
Sugar: Alabama vs. Houston
Fiesta: OU or K-State vs. Mich St. or Stanford

Michigan State still has to play in a CCG, if they win they would go to the Rose and knock all other Big 10 teams out of contention.  If they lose they'll have 2 losses.  Stanford faces Cal and Notre Dame--losable games.  Houston could get beat in their CCG by Southern Miss.  

Oklahoma State has to beat Oklahoma to have any shot, unless a major upset occurs in Ames on Friday night.  It may come down to the great John Currie and the Animal lobbying for a slot.  There's going to be a pile of 2 loss teams at the end of the year.  

I'd like Fiesta more than anything, but Alamo would be fun.  I've been to Dallas before.  JerryWorld is cool but Dallas is pretty meh. 
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 15, 2011, 11:34:55 AM
http://www.kansas.com/2011/11/15/2103814/kansas-state-football-an-enticing.html
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: kso_FAN on November 15, 2011, 11:35:29 AM
Its nice to know that we are on top of things: http://www.kansas.com/2011/11/15/2103814/kansas-state-football-an-enticing.html


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"I am sitting here looking at a slick, four-color brochure made specifically for the AT&T Cotton Bowl," said Cotton Bowl President Rick Baker. "It says, 'K-State fans are ready to pack Arlington with purple,' and has statistics on how well K-State travels and how the team is doing.

"It's as slick a piece as you're ever going to want to see. I've never received one during the season like this. It just goes to show how forward-thinking and aggressive they are right now."


Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 15, 2011, 11:37:13 AM
I love bowl talks/bowl execs. They are just so smooth and dirty. I love it.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: steve dave on November 15, 2011, 11:50:15 AM
wow, the animal is at another level  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: O-town Kat on November 15, 2011, 11:59:01 AM
When we drive through Denton on the way down there I predict I will attempt that eagle scream.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: TheHamburglar on November 15, 2011, 12:00:28 PM
NCG: LSU vs. OSU
Orange: Big East vs. Clemson
Rose: Oregon vs. Wisconsin
Sugar: Alabama vs. Houston
Fiesta: OU or K-State vs. Mich St. or Stanford

Michigan State still has to play in a CCG, if they win they would go to the Rose and knock all other Big 10 teams out of contention.  If they lose they'll have 2 losses.  Stanford faces Cal and Notre Dame--losable games.  Houston could get beat in their CCG by Southern Miss. 

Oklahoma State has to beat Oklahoma to have any shot, unless a major upset occurs in Ames on Friday night.  It may come down to the great John Currie and the Animal lobbying for a slot.  There's going to be a pile of 2 loss teams at the end of the year. 

I'd like Fiesta more than anything, but Alamo would be fun.  I've been to Dallas before.  JerryWorld is cool but Dallas is pretty meh. 

You messed 1 thing up, Wisconsin already has 2 losses...so here is how it shakes out with that fact.

Change Rose Bowl: Oregon vs. Wisky or Michigan St. (The loser of the their CCG is not getting a BCS with 3 losses)
Change Fiesta to some combo of: OU/KSU vs. Stanford vs. Michigan/Nebraska winner (the winner of this game will have 2 losses and a very good shot at being in the required BCS top 14)
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: KITNfury on November 15, 2011, 12:06:27 PM
4 color brochures!!
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: theKSU on November 15, 2011, 12:08:42 PM
I'm projecting Wisconsin as the Big 10 winner.  Good point on Nebraska or Michigan being possibilities.  K-State vs. Nebraska in the Fiesta Bowl?  :sdeek:  Of course they would MUCH rather take OU in that scenario.  Better hope Nebraska loses again. 
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 15, 2011, 12:59:09 PM
Look, between the SEC, Pac 12, Big 12, Big 10, and ACC, only 3 of them are going to get an at-large bid. And is anyone here seriously suggesting that the Big 12 will get left out? How many teams does each conference have in the current BCS Top 15?
- SEC: 5
- Big 12: 3
- Pac 12: 2
- ACC: 2
- Big 10: 1 (MSU at number 15)

The Big 12 and SEC are definitely getting at-large bids.

Even if the Nubbs win out, there is no way in hell they sneak into a BCS at-large spot with 2 losses (including Northwestern at home?!) and without even winning their division.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Bookcat on November 15, 2011, 12:59:56 PM
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 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: CNS on November 15, 2011, 01:03:01 PM
4 color brochures!!

Really hope all 4 were green
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: purplenutz on November 15, 2011, 01:15:26 PM
4 color brochures!!

4 color process.  CMYK (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black)  It's standard process in mass printing.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 15, 2011, 02:13:36 PM
From KC Star (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/15/3267595/k-state-is-looking-good-to-several.html#ixzz1do4d0f2i):

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Added Fiesta Bowl spokesperson Kristen Pflipsen: “We are still considering K-State for the Fiesta Bowl. A lot of things would have to happen for that to become reality. But that is not out of the question. We’ve always had a really positive experience with the Wildcats.”

So, in other words, K-State needs to win out, and OU needs to lose 2 more. That's fine, I'll take the Cotton Bowl.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Panjandrum on November 15, 2011, 02:42:20 PM
Look, between the SEC, Pac 12, Big 12, Big 10, and ACC, only 3 of them are going to get an at-large bid. And is anyone here seriously suggesting that the Big 12 will get left out? How many teams does each conference have in the current BCS Top 15?
- SEC: 5
- Big 12: 3
- Pac 12: 2
- ACC: 2
- Big 10: 1 (MSU at number 15)

The Big 12 and SEC are definitely getting at-large bids.

Even if the Nubbs win out, there is no way in hell they sneak into a BCS at-large spot with 2 losses (including Northwestern at home?!) and without even winning their division.

Everyone needs to root for Michigan this weekend just to ensure they stay the eff out.

A 10-2 NU team that's got even a remotely legitimate claim to a BCS invite could get it due to the 85,000 tickets they'd buy at $500 a pop.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: steve dave on November 15, 2011, 02:44:17 PM
yeah, we wouldn't have a prayer if it came down to us v. nu.  If OU and NU are both eligible by BCS rules they are going.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 15, 2011, 02:48:42 PM
Even if the Nubbs win out, there is no way in hell they sneak into a BCS at-large spot with 2 losses (including Northwestern at home?!) and without even winning their division.

Everyone needs to root for Michigan this weekend just to ensure they stay the eff out.

A 10-2 NU team that's got even a remotely legitimate claim to a BCS invite could get it due to the 85,000 tickets they'd buy at $500 a pop.

Then, by that logic, wouldn't Michigan be in just as good a position to snag an at-large if they beat NU? The Big 10 is not going to get 2 teams into the BCS this year. Not going to happen. There isn't any room for them. The SEC gets a bid. So will the Big 12. So will Houson or some other underserving non-AQ team. You're basically saying NU or Michigan would go instead of Stanford?
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Panjandrum on November 15, 2011, 02:49:16 PM
From KC Star (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/15/3267595/k-state-is-looking-good-to-several.html#ixzz1do4d0f2i):

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Added Fiesta Bowl spokesperson Kristen Pflipsen: “We are still considering K-State for the Fiesta Bowl. A lot of things would have to happen for that to become reality. But that is not out of the question. We’ve always had a really positive experience with the Wildcats.”

So, in other words, K-State needs to win out, and OU needs to lose 2 more. That's fine, I'll take the Cotton Bowl.

Not necessarily.  It would help, but it's not necessarily the case.

If OSU just lays the hammer down on OU and beats them by three or four TD's, they could drop like a rock at the wrong time.  
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: TheHamburglar on November 15, 2011, 03:12:17 PM
Even if the Nubbs win out, there is no way in hell they sneak into a BCS at-large spot with 2 losses (including Northwestern at home?!) and without even winning their division.

Everyone needs to root for Michigan this weekend just to ensure they stay the eff out.

A 10-2 NU team that's got even a remotely legitimate claim to a BCS invite could get it due to the 85,000 tickets they'd buy at $500 a pop.

Then, by that logic, wouldn't Michigan be in just as good a position to snag an at-large if they beat NU? The Big 10 is not going to get 2 teams into the BCS this year. Not going to happen.

At this time I would tend to agree with you.  Right now it looks like the probable at large bids will be Houston, Stanford, OU, and Alabama.  However there are multiple scenarios that individually are not probable, but collectively might be 50/50 that one of them happens and would allow the Nub/Michigan winner in.  Those are if Tulsa knocks off Houston, OU loses to Baylor and OSU, or Stanford loses to Notre Dame.  If any of those happen it opens up a spot for the BigTen.  If Stanford loses to ND the Fiesta would pick a 2-loss Nub over a 2-loss Stanford to play OU, or if OU loses this weekend to Baylor they would probably pick a 2-loss Michigan or Nub over a 2-loss KSU to play Stanford.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Katpappy on November 15, 2011, 03:43:11 PM
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Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 15, 2011, 03:56:08 PM
Just tell me who to cheer for to make this ridiculously impossible scenario at least 1% possible.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: TheHamburglar on November 15, 2011, 04:05:23 PM
Just tell me who to cheer for to make this ridiculously impossible scenario at least 1% possible.

Tulsa to beat Houston, Cal to beat Stanford, Notre Dame to beat Stanford, South Carolina to beat Clemson, Baylor to beat OU, Ohio State to beat Michigan, Iowa to beat Nebraska, and probably Michigan to beat Nebraska.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 15, 2011, 04:07:12 PM
Just tell me who to cheer for to make this ridiculously impossible scenario at least 1% possible.

Baylor.
OSU.
Cal.
Notre Dame.
SMU.
Tulsa.
Michigan (but only this Saturday)
Iowa.
Ohio State.

That should do it.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: hemmy on November 15, 2011, 04:28:00 PM
Just tell me who to cheer for to make this ridiculously impossible scenario at least 1% possible.

Tulsa to beat Houston, Cal to beat Stanford, Notre Dame to beat Stanford, South Carolina to beat Clemson, Baylor to beat OU, Ohio State to beat Michigan, Iowa to beat Nebraska, and probably Michigan to beat Nebraska.

SC > Clemson does absolutely nothing. Clemson is already locked in the ACC championship game.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: OregonSmock on November 15, 2011, 04:45:44 PM
12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

National Coach of the Year?  Maybe
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 15, 2011, 04:46:20 PM
'grats, pepperjax.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 15, 2011, 04:52:06 PM
12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

Won a division?  No.

Won the Big 12?  No.

Used the bounty of one decent team paired with one incredibly lucky schedule as a springboard for future sustained success?  No.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Brock Landers on November 15, 2011, 05:11:07 PM
Did he really just list being on the cover of Sports Illustrated as a significant accomplishment?  LOL.  How quaint.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 15, 2011, 05:39:18 PM
12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

National Coach of the Year?  Maybe

And they lost to Mizzou the next game after the cover and didn't make the Dr Pepper.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: wetwillie on November 15, 2011, 05:49:41 PM
Can't believe people can't just admit KU had a great team their orange bowl year. What a strange thing to be butthurt about.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 15, 2011, 05:53:36 PM
Can't believe people can't just admit KU had a great team their orange bowl year. What a strange thing to be butthurt about.

Because they didn't. They had a good team with a great schedule. They lost to the first great team they played that year.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: kso_FAN on November 15, 2011, 05:56:17 PM
12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

National Coach of the Year?  Maybe

Give this K-State a schedule where only one regular season opponent finishes with fewer than 6 losses (and you got beat) and its likely they go 11-1 too. The win over VT was pretty solid though.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: TheHamburglar on November 15, 2011, 06:15:23 PM
Just tell me who to cheer for to make this ridiculously impossible scenario at least 1% possible.

Tulsa to beat Houston, Cal to beat Stanford, Notre Dame to beat Stanford, South Carolina to beat Clemson, Baylor to beat OU, Ohio State to beat Michigan, Iowa to beat Nebraska, and probably Michigan to beat Nebraska.

SC > Clemson does absolutely nothing. Clemson is already locked in the ACC championship game.

That's not why I said that.  I have no idea what the odds of a 2-loss Clemson team getting an at-large bid if they lose the ACC championship game, but they are currently #7 in the BCS and I don't know if they would drop below us with a loss in the ACC championship game.  I also know they consistently fill a 81,000 seat stadium, so they may actually travel pretty well if given the BCS opportunity.  It wouldn't hurt to add another loss to the ACC to hurt their BCS rankings.  I know odds of the ACC getting an at-large bid are like 2%, but a Clemson loss to South Carolina would drop it to 0% while helping KSU to possibly gain a spot in the BCS rankings and increase their profile.  I know that this is by far the least important game to KSU that I listed, but eliminating another possible at-large team, even if their chances are only 2% to begin with doesn't hurt. 

It also serves 1 more purpose.  A South Carolina loss would drop them out of the top 14 and top 16, but a win would keep them in it.  This helps us 2 ways.  1) It keeps 1 more team in the top 14 pool of at-large teams that can't get an at-large bid because their conference has already maxed out their participants.  2)  In the event that Houston loses it may open up the possibility of TCU sliding into that no-AQ, top 16 auto bid slot.  South Carolina winning this game keeps them above TCU and adding 1 more spot for TCU to have to jump in the case that Houston loses to take up an at-large bid.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 15, 2011, 07:25:01 PM
12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

National Coach of the Year?  Maybe

Give this K-State a schedule where only one regular season opponent finishes with fewer than 6 losses (and you got beat) and its likely they go 11-1 too. The win over VT was pretty solid though.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: DQ12 on November 15, 2011, 07:28:18 PM
Being a bowl rep would be so sweet. 
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: EllToPay on November 15, 2011, 07:30:30 PM
12-1?  No

BCS Bowl?  No

Cover of Sports Illustrated?  No

National Coach of the Year?  Maybe

grats, beems. hopefully our program in three years won't be the worst in america like yours is. but 'grats, though.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 15, 2011, 07:34:30 PM
Quote from: ksu_Fan
Give this K-State a schedule where only one regular season opponent finishes with fewer than 6 losses (and you got beat) and its likely they go 11-1 too. The win over VT was pretty solid though.


No way man, SELa was just as good in 2007 as Oklahoma or Oklahoma State is this year.

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Goddammit.  You guys have gone and gotten me all excited that we're gonna go BCS, even though I know we won't.  Now I'm gonna be disappointed if we go Cotton.   :flush:  BCS question, though: other than the fact that OU went to the Fiesta Bowl last year, why would we be even close to as attractive as the Sooners in any way?
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: pike on November 15, 2011, 07:36:34 PM
Cause a 10-2 K-State doesn't happen every year like it does for OU, and they lose the Fiesta bowl every year anyway.

This assumes we win out obviously. If not then mods delete thread thx bye.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: GoodForAnother on November 15, 2011, 08:00:16 PM
OU fans are tired of the Fiesta, they go there too much.  Fiesta knows that nerdy-ass KSU fans like us will buy like 1.7 million tickets and camp outside in the rain to get in.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 15, 2011, 08:12:20 PM
But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 15, 2011, 08:36:58 PM
Quote from: ksu_Fan
Give this K-State a schedule where only one regular season opponent finishes with fewer than 6 losses (and you got beat) and its likely they go 11-1 too. The win over VT was pretty solid though.


No way man, SELa was just as good in 2007 as Oklahoma or Oklahoma State is this year.

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Goddammit.  You guys have gone and gotten me all excited that we're gonna go BCS, even though I know we won't.  Now I'm gonna be disappointed if we go Cotton.   :flush:  BCS question, though: other than the fact that OU went to the Fiesta Bowl last year, why would we be even close to as attractive as the Sooners in any way?
Fan excitement. They know we will bring 30k-50k whereas OU fans may be disappointed and ho-hum about another trip to the Fiesta. Its all about what the fan base can bring to the local economy.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: The3ears on November 15, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?

If OU lose to Baylor & OSU, they have 3 loses and very likely be out of the top 14, should be lower than us if we win out.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Katpappy on November 15, 2011, 09:00:12 PM
But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?

If OU lose to Baylor & OSU, they have 3 loses and very likely be out of the top 14, should be lower than us if we win out.
Jesus eff, what part of FAIRYLAND are you from.  :lol:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: DQ12 on November 16, 2011, 10:59:07 AM
But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?

If OU lose to Baylor & OSU, they have 3 loses and very likely be out of the top 14, should be lower than us if we win out.
Jesus eff, what part of FAIRYLAND are you from.  :lol:
Baylor has the kind of offense that could give OU fits.  I don't think Baylor will win, but it's a pretty tough game for OU, match-up wise. 
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 16, 2011, 11:23:30 AM
But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?

If OU lose to Baylor & OSU, they have 3 loses and very likely be out of the top 14, should be lower than us if we win out.
Jesus eff, what part of FAIRYLAND are you from.  :lol:
Baylor has the kind of offense that could give OU fits.  I don't think Baylor will win, but it's a pretty tough game for OU, match-up wise. 

:dubious:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on November 16, 2011, 11:31:27 AM
Too many scenarios, my head hurts. I'm happy with the Cotton Bowl, hopefully OSU and OU don't do anything stupid that would strip the CB away from us..
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: DQ12 on November 16, 2011, 11:41:18 AM
But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?

If OU lose to Baylor & OSU, they have 3 loses and very likely be out of the top 14, should be lower than us if we win out.
Jesus eff, what part of FAIRYLAND are you from.  :lol:
Baylor has the kind of offense that could give OU fits.  I don't think Baylor will win, but it's a pretty tough game for OU, match-up wise. 

:dubious:
It is.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 16, 2011, 11:43:36 AM
But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?

If OU lose to Baylor & OSU, they have 3 loses and very likely be out of the top 14, should be lower than us if we win out.
Jesus eff, what part of FAIRYLAND are you from.  :lol:
Baylor has the kind of offense that could give OU fits.  I don't think Baylor will win, but it's a pretty tough game for OU, match-up wise. 

:dubious:

OU lost to rough ridin' TTech. anything is possible.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: AbeFroman on November 16, 2011, 11:50:05 AM
But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?

If OU lose to Baylor & OSU, they have 3 loses and very likely be out of the top 14, should be lower than us if we win out.
Jesus eff, what part of FAIRYLAND are you from.  :lol:
Baylor has the kind of offense that could give OU fits.  I don't think Baylor will win, but it's a pretty tough game for OU, match-up wise. 

Baylor has the kind of defense that can't give anyone fits.  I don't think OU will lose, but it's a pretty tough game for Baylor, match-up wise. 
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 16, 2011, 11:57:19 AM
But could we really garner better ratings than OU?  Isn't that really the only thing they give a crap about?

If OU lose to Baylor & OSU, they have 3 loses and very likely be out of the top 14, should be lower than us if we win out.
Jesus eff, what part of FAIRYLAND are you from.  :lol:
Baylor has the kind of offense that could give OU fits.  I don't think Baylor will win, but it's a pretty tough game for OU, match-up wise. 

:dubious:

OU lost to rough ridin' TTech. anything is possible.

They were off last week. They will beat Baylor by more points than are scored in our game.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: The3ears on November 16, 2011, 07:26:50 PM
Fiesta, Alamo, Insight and Holiday Bowls talk KSU
http://www.themercury.com/k-statesports/article.aspx?articleId=83c61172ee794ecf89b4c1ae92dd49a0

"It's possible they'd be eligible for the Fiesta Bowl," Kristen Pflipsen, director of public relations for the Fiesta Bowl, told The Mercury in a phone interview Monday.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2011, 07:27:54 PM
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Note: Not sure if this helps K-State’s cause or not, but Cotton Bowl president Rick Baker and Wildcats athletic director John Currie are longtime friends. Currie considers him a mentor.
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: wes mantooth on November 16, 2011, 07:35:48 PM
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Note: Not sure if this helps K-State’s cause or not, but Cotton Bowl president Rick Baker and Wildcats athletic director John Currie are longtime friends. Currie considers him a mentor.


 :surprised:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 16, 2011, 07:48:03 PM
The Animal is in an old boys' network with big-shot Texans.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Our BCS Chances
Post by: Kornheiser on November 16, 2011, 07:52:50 PM
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Note: Not sure if this helps K-State’s cause or not, but Cotton Bowl president Rick Baker and Wildcats athletic director John Currie are longtime friends. Currie considers him a mentor.


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