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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: Mixed-Nutz on October 26, 2011, 07:52:54 PM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/michael-beasleys-lawsuit-alleges-he-received-improper-benefits/2011/10/22/gIQAn40AKM_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/michael-beasleys-lawsuit-alleges-he-received-improper-benefits/2011/10/22/gIQAn40AKM_story.html) :sdeek:
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Anyone surprised is a giant Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
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Surprised he talked about it or surprised he got benis?
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Both
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Holy crap. I mean, I knew about bell and DCAssault, but goddamn is Beasley throwing Malone under the bus.
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Holy crap. I mean, I knew about bell and DCAssault, but goddamn is Beasley throwing Malone under the bus.
For some reason with Hill gone, all of this makes me really happy.
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I'm just glad there weren't any descriptions of juiced up muscleheads anywhere in that article.
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I'm just glad there weren't any descriptions of juiced up muscleheads anywhere in that article.
what if it comes out in court :ohno:
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Holy crap. I mean, I knew about bell and DCAssault, but goddamn is Beasley throwing Malone under the bus.
go, mike, go.
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I opened the article and ctrl+f'd "kansas" and "state" and when I got nothing I stopped giving a crap.
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I opened the article and ctrl+f'd "kansas" and "state" and when I got nothing I stopped giving a crap.
I think your ctrl button is busted.
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I opened the article and ctrl+f'd "kansas" and "state" and when I got nothing I stopped giving a crap.
then you used your shoe as a telephone and crap you pants
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I opened the article and ctrl+f'd "kansas" and "state" and when I got nothing I stopped giving a crap.
I think your ctrl button is busted.
Probably operator error.
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"Malone encouraged Smith to move to Kansas with Beasley “to, among other things, keep other agents away from him,” the suit says. In June 2007, a man whom Malone had introduced to Smith (but whom the suit does not name) paid for Smith’s moving expenses to Kansas and made a “lump-sum payment to cover the first six months of her rent while she was there,” the suit alleges.
In January 2008, the suit claims, the man telephoned Smith and told her that he wanted to be Beasley’s financial adviser. Smith called Malone and informed him about the conversation. Malone said “something dismissive about him and told Ms. Smith to be at ease,” the suit says.
Shortly afterward, according to the suit, Bell called Smith and asked her the amount of her rent and her car payment and told her that both payments would be taken care of. Smith said they were paid for, and that she never made a rent or car payment during Beasley’s entire freshman year as a player for Kansas State during the 2007-08 season, the suit says. "
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Well boys, it's apparent. We've arrived.
:gocho:
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Well boys, it's apparent. We've arrived.
:gocho:
It's such a relief to confirm it. I mean I knew Frank was doing it, but its nice to hear ya know?
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god-damnit mike! :angry:
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I'm just glad there weren't any descriptions of juiced up muscleheads anywhere in that article.
what if it comes out in court :ohno:
BSAAAAAAAC!!!!!!!!!!!!
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god-damnit mike! :angry:
why? mike didn't do anything. love him almost as much as i love myself.
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So should I pencil in the final four this season or next? MCMW
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god-damnit mike! :angry:
why? mike didn't do anything. love him almost as much as i love myself.
fff, what is wrong with you? jeez.
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Another step toward the elite. 'Grats guys.
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Lets just hope Cauley and Upshaw are worth the juice! :bball:
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Too bad we knew about all of this a long time ago.. and it isn't against the rules...
http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/9343554
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norlander is pretty good.
http://college-basketball-blog.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/32955487
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it isn't against the rules...
:D
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DanWetzel Dan Wetzel
Michael Beasley suit alleges his mother got free rent, moving expenses, cash from agents while at KState. NCAA may have easy case
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We come off pretty good in this deal
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DanWetzel Dan Wetzel
Michael Beasley suit alleges his mother got free rent, moving expenses, cash from agents while at KState. NCAA may have easy case
maybe beasley can give back his heisman? I dunno. They put USC on probation for Reggie Bush (and other things). And with this new NCAA Pres it appears the NCAA is trying to make points on ncaa violations. :runaway:
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lol if they vacate those wins that season. l.o.l.
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We come off pretty good in this deal
Not really. We come off as "how in the hell did you not know about this" and the ncaa has generally had a problem with that (i.e. Reggie Bush). They basically said with Bush "how the hell could you not know? he was a high profie recruit, you should have done a better job". Throw in the fact that 'Te was our overpaid assistant who had a relationship with Malone....I think we're looking at sanctions, just a matter of how much of a dick the NCAA wants to be.
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For Beasley only one good thing (the NBA) and a million bad ones could happen. And while college fans will bemoan the allegation that Beasley attending K-State was just a fixed recruitment, when it came to building Beasley’s career, it was also the correct one. Beasley had trouble everywhere he’d been. Kansas State was where he became an All-American, eased NBA fears and landed that big contract.
:love: you better be using this pitch Frank.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AuSrpX1dNyGE44wWkr_dls05nYcB?slug=dw-wetzel_michael_beasley_lawsuit_102611
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sucks for Mark Turgeon
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the phog is all over this one guys.
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http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/beasley-admits-ncaa-violations-implicates-huggins-29891
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Really seems like Beas/Malone/Bell could've settled up on everything long before this point.
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beasley wouldn't do this if it would harm his Kansas State Wildcats. :D
no sanctions ... just good publicity for his favorite team. :driving:
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So I take it the rumors of MB being at the scrimmage this weekend probably isn't gonna happen?
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I feel like I should be more worried about this, but I'm not finding a smoking gun between KSU and Fatima getting paid. As far as I know, Malone isn't a booster, nor was he affiliated with KSU in any way.
Yeah, Huggins paid Hill an exorbitant amount of money (that he didn't earn) to help steer Beasley to KSU. But that's common practice and not illegal. Everything that happened between Malone/Bell/Fatima seems like it's outside of our locus of control.
But, I'll just let the NCAA rules wonks just correct me here. As long as there's no smoking gun between KSU and our boosters and this mess, or money from Hill found its way to Beasley, I'm pretty sure we're okay, right? I mean, they may make us forfeit our wins that season, but whatever. I don't care about any of that.
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norlander is pretty good.
http://college-basketball-blog.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/32955487
i'm addicted to his podcast. i think it's the opening music
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http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/beasley-admits-ncaa-violations-implicates-huggins-29891
I like how he leads with the hiring of Dalonte as if that's the biggest thing...even though it was out there and completely discussed by everyone when it happened.
As it stands now, K-State has only two worries: first, if something more comes out that more strongly implicates the university, or second, if the NCAA decides we're one of the little guys that they have no problem screwing to be an "example" to the big boys that they slap on the wrists.
Huggins is gone. Dalonte is gone. Beasley is gone. Unless more info comes out more strongly implicating Frank or linking KSU to the payments, we're fine.
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Pissclams is at least partially to blame for the issues with Malone.
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I can't wait to throw Malone, Shings, Dalonte & Huggs under the bus so hard they imbed into the roadway and the bus doesn't even feel a bump as it rolls over their lifeless corpses!
:excited:
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http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/beasley-admits-ncaa-violations-implicates-huggins-29891
, or second, if the NCAA decides we're one of the little guys that they have no problem screwing to be an "example" to the big boys that they slap on the wrists.
That was my first thought as well.
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most likely just have the season wiped from the record books. no biggie i guess.
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I feel like I should be more worried about this, but I'm not finding a smoking gun between KSU and Fatima getting paid. As far as I know, Malone isn't a booster, nor was he affiliated with KSU in any way.
Yeah, Huggins paid Hill an exorbitant amount of money (that he didn't earn) to help steer Beasley to KSU. But that's common practice and not illegal. Everything that happened between Malone/Bell/Fatima seems like it's outside of our locus of control.
But, I'll just let the NCAA rules wonks just correct me here. As long as there's no smoking gun between KSU and our boosters and this mess, or money from Hill found its way to Beasley, I'm pretty sure we're okay, right? I mean, they may make us forfeit our wins that season, but whatever. I don't care about any of that.
Yeah. This is kind of where I stand.
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lol if they vacate those wins that season. l.o.l.
All-time series record vs. MU :runaway:
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Someone get Cecil Newton on the horn.
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this is not going to end well...as far as I can tell, not much different than OJ Mayo situation
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I can't wait to throw Malone, Shings, Dalonte & Huggs under the bus so hard they imbed into the roadway and the bus doesn't even feel a bump as it rolls over their lifeless corpses!
:excited:
Would really kick start the Frank v Huggs rivalry well.
Also, Beas needs to just cam newton this thing. No knowledge=no penalty.
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
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I can't wait to throw Malone, Shings, Dalonte & Huggs under the bus so hard they imbed into the roadway and the bus doesn't even feel a bump as it rolls over their lifeless corpses!
:excited:
Would really kick start the Frank v Huggs rivalry well.
Also, Beas needs to just cam newton this thing. No knowledge=no penalty.
pfft. would be difficult considering he filed suit using these 'allegations' as part of his legal argument.
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I can't wait to throw Malone, Shings, Dalonte & Huggs under the bus so hard they imbed into the roadway and the bus doesn't even feel a bump as it rolls over their lifeless corpses!
:excited:
Would really kick start the Frank v Huggs rivalry well.
Also, Beas needs to just cam newton this thing. No knowledge=no penalty.
DNR article.
pfft. would be difficult considering he filed suit using these 'allegations' as part of his legal argument.
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3389049 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3389049)
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we don't have to defend beasley n e more. thank god.
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2 thoughts:
1. Was Rodney Guillory that bad of a guy?
2. Joel Bell is one vindictive little bitch.
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we don't have to defend beasley n e more. thank god.
what did he do that needs defending? :confused:
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we don't have to defend beasley n e more. thank god.
what did he do that needs defending? :confused:
Yeah, still love ya Beas. To the end.
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As stated before, Beas could shoot someone, and I would remain on #TeamBeas
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2. Joel Bell is one vindictive little bitch.
Cassidy went at him pretty hard on twitter yesterday.
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God bless Earthdog Fred.
Comedy. All of this righteous indignation from The Flock when we've had two players suspended by the NCAA in the last seven years for accepting improper benefits, half of our stellar recruiting class is academically ineligible (and almost every year we have one or more players who aren't cleared until mid-September because they attended multiple basketball factories), and the two guys who got kicked out of the NBA orientation seminar for blowing dope were our guys.
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lol @ anyone who is worried for KSU about this
#TeamBeas
also, #TeamMomBeas
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fatty fat fat...what on earth :sdeek:
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what are you basketball only fans going to do with yourselves? us combos have an undefeated football team to help us sleep at night :cool:
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:babywillie:
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Pissclams is at least partially to blame for the issues with Malone.
When a bag man meets a bag man nothing good can come of it.
Before goEMAW gets subpoenaed we better BSAC up.
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:lol:
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Currie you know what to do! :ump:
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Somehow OBz is responsible. And really, getting the Bball program axed is pretty brilliant.
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remember when everyone was freaking out about arthur and bryce with nevin shapiro?
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lol if they vacate those wins that season. l.o.l.
If this happens, who gets credit for our win over USC in the NCAA tourney? Also, did our home losing streak versus KU end up being 28 games instead of 25?
:sdeek:
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known. Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu. The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.
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I'm glad Mike stood up to these guys. He's growing up.
We also now have a good idea why the DC Assault pipeline dried up so fast. Dalonte didn't deliver what they wanted.
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everyone already knew why it dried up. interestingly, I tweeted like a year ago something to the effect of "Curtis, quit blaming K-State. It wasn't our fault" and Fatima RT'd me.
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everyone already knew why it dried up. interestingly, I tweeted like a year ago something to the effect of "Curtis, quit blaming K-State. It wasn't our fault" and Fatima RT'd me.
:thumbs:
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I wish I'd been trying to calm the Malone waters directly at CBE instead of wasting my time trying to get Nolan to handle it.
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known. Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu. The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.
Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?
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How did Beasley get through the NCAA Clearinghouse?
:surprised:
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How did Beasley get through the NCAA Clearinghouse?
:surprised:
His grades were never an issue
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How did Beasley get through the NCAA Clearinghouse?
:surprised:
His grades were never an issue
nor was his amateur status.
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sticking to my Mike would never hurt KSU theory. no worries here.
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everyone already knew why it dried up. interestingly, I tweeted like a year ago something to the effect of "Curtis, quit blaming K-State. It wasn't our fault" and Fatima RT'd me.
grats sd.
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How did Beasley get through the NCAA Clearinghouse?
:surprised:
His grades were never an issue
LOL.... he went to six different high schools. Someone paid good money to make sure his grades weren't an issue. What a joke.
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HUR HUR HUR YA
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known. Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu. The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.
Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?
yes. if it was reasonable that ksu should have known. which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel".
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The damage will come if the NCAA can reasonably say that KSU should have known.
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We have arrived :gocho:
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known. Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu. The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.
Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?
yes. if it was reasonable that ksu should have known. which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel".
Yeah, Te is saying the right things:
"No, Fatima had a full-time job," Hill told the newspaper. "It was not like she moved to Kansas and stopped working. She continued to work. She had a family, so I never assumed. She didn't buy a house. She rented a house, which later some kids rented. So I didn't think it was extra. Normal living."
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:zzz:
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also good luck to Mike w/ his counter suit :crossfingers:
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also good luck to Mike w/ his counter suit :crossfingers:
YES!
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hopefully DC Assault will have to disband and Mike retires from the NBA and starts a new AAU club in DC and steers all top prospects to Manhattan, KS.
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Trud = :dubious: :facepalm: :curse:
Hill = :surprised: :confused: :frown:
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What started all this? What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about. Someone pls summarize.
TIA
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known. Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu. The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.
Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?
yes. if it was reasonable that ksu should have known. which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel".
I'm confused. If KU can directly pay Chalmers' dad and Manning's dad, then why is K-State supposed to investigate every dollar that its players' parents may get from sources completely unrelated to the university?
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Also, TRob's kid sis who got paid and lives with dad?
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Would love to get 'Pad's take on this situation.
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known. Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu. The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.
Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?
yes. if it was reasonable that ksu should have known. which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel".
I'm confused. If KU can directly pay Chalmers' dad and Manning's dad, then why is K-State supposed to investigate every dollar that its players' parents may get from sources completely unrelated to the university?
There was no NCAA rule against Chalmers/Manning coaching for KU. There's an NCAA rule against parents collecting money from boosters.
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known. Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu. The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.
Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?
yes. if it was reasonable that ksu should have known. which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel".
I'm confused. If KU can directly pay Chalmers' dad and Manning's dad, then why is K-State supposed to investigate every dollar that its players' parents may get from sources completely unrelated to the university?
There was no NCAA rule against Chalmers/Manning coaching for KU. There's an NCAA rule against parents collecting money from boosters.
Who is the booster in this situation?
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known. Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu. The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.
Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?
yes. if it was reasonable that ksu should have known. which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel".
I'm confused. If KU can directly pay Chalmers' dad and Manning's dad, then why is K-State supposed to investigate every dollar that its players' parents may get from sources completely unrelated to the university?
There was no NCAA rule against Chalmers/Manning coaching for KU. There's an NCAA rule against parents collecting money from boosters.
good thing Bell isn't EMAW then
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What started all this? What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about. Someone pls summarize.
TIA
Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer). Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap. I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for.
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What started all this? What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about. Someone pls summarize.
TIA
Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer). Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap. I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for.
basically saying he exploited a child and is using the negative press to curb bell's suit and force a settlement, seems to me.
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known. Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu. The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.
Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?
yes. if it was reasonable that ksu should have known. which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel".
I'm confused. If KU can directly pay Chalmers' dad and Manning's dad, then why is K-State supposed to investigate every dollar that its players' parents may get from sources completely unrelated to the university?
There was no NCAA rule against Chalmers/Manning coaching for KU. There's an NCAA rule against parents collecting money from boosters.
Who is the booster in this situation?
The NCAA also prohibits agents from paying players and their parents (while in school).
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known. Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu. The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.
Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?
yes. if it was reasonable that ksu should have known. which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel".
I'm confused. If KU can directly pay Chalmers' dad and Manning's dad, then why is K-State supposed to investigate every dollar that its players' parents may get from sources completely unrelated to the university?
There was no NCAA rule against Chalmers/Manning coaching for KU. There's an NCAA rule against parents collecting money from boosters.
Who is the booster in this situation?
The NCAA also prohibits agents from paying players and their parents (while in school).
So we just have to show the payment was before he enrolled? That should be easy enough. I doubt she moved to Manhattan after he enrolled.
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usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.
they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known. Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu. The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.
Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?
yes. if it was reasonable that ksu should have known. which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel".
I'm confused. If KU can directly pay Chalmers' dad and Manning's dad, then why is K-State supposed to investigate every dollar that its players' parents may get from sources completely unrelated to the university?
There was no NCAA rule against Chalmers/Manning coaching for KU. There's an NCAA rule against parents collecting money from boosters.
Who is the booster in this situation?
The NCAA also prohibits agents from paying players and their parents (while in school).
Yeah. I'm sure K-State will have to forfeit wins. Unless it can be proven that K-State should have known about the payments, I don't think anything more will come of this.
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DK dunking on Mayo will be erased from both team's record books :frown:
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DK dunking on Mayo will be erased from both team's record books :frown:
IT WILL LIVE ON IN MY HEART! THEY CAN'T TAKE THAT!
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What started all this? What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about. Someone pls summarize.
TIA
Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer). Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap. I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for.
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html
^actually a pretty interesting read.
Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.
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this is all just so shocking
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Sounds good to me! GO GET'EM MIKE! :excited:
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this is all just so shocking
haha
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What started all this? What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about. Someone pls summarize.
TIA
Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer). Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap. I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for.
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html
^actually a pretty interesting read.
Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.
Knew the bell/DCA stuff, but didn't realize that there was actually a law suit from it.
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What started all this? What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about. Someone pls summarize.
TIA
Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer). Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap. I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for.
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html
^actually a pretty interesting read.
Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.
Beasley didn't know about the money that got paid to Fatima until September 2008 and K-State was supposed to know about it?
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http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html
^actually a pretty interesting read.
Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.
From the time he was thirteen (13) years old, Beasley was envisioned as a strong NBA prospect … he was over 6 feet tall and had a level of skill and intensity on the court that adumbrated success at every level of basketball.
so intense
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… but one thing became clear: he was a prodigious basketball talent. By the time he was ready to go to college, he was one of the best teenage basketball players in America
yes. yes he was.
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Andy Katz misleading people? Odd tweet.
Michael Beasley alleges improper benefits at Kansas State Wildcats in lawsuit against ex-agent http://es.pn/s7CStd
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http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html
^actually a pretty interesting read.
Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.
53. In or around September 2008, Beasley learned, through a third party, that Malone and Bell had been making payments to his mother without his knowledge or consent for years. He felt betrayed by the men in whom he had placed his trust and immediately terminated the Agent Contract and the Merchandising Agreement with Bell and dramatically shifted his relationship with Malone at the same time.
betrayal is a bitter pill to swallow. explains a lot about the falling out between DCA and Hill
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and could have lead to his crushing depression during his first couple years in the league.
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seems like they tried to cover KSU's asses as much as possible. Pretty nasty stuff going on here im sure.
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Beasley wanted a Nike contract.
Good. Adidas is awful.
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sticking to my Mike-would-never-hurt-KSU theory. no worries here.
theory confirmed. love you Mike.
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sticking to my Mike-would-never-hurt-KSU theory. no worries here.
theory confirmed. love you Mike.
There is no doubt he waited on the Cam Newton results so he didn't hurt EMAW.
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sticking to my Mike-would-never-hurt-KSU theory. no worries here.
theory confirmed. love you Mike.
There he is not doubt he waited on the Cam Newton results so he didn't hurt EMAW.
We are so rough ridin' blessed
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i take it all back
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i take it all back
I knew you didn't mean it. I knew.
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What started all this? What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about. Someone pls summarize.
TIA
Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer). Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap. I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for.
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html
^actually a pretty interesting read.
Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.
Beasley didn't know about the money that got paid to Fatima until September 2008 and K-State was supposed to know about it?
which is why there is nothing to be worried about.
:ump:
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:love: Frank can never leave us now :love:
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I'm sorry Mike. I said some pretty awful things about you in my head. :dunno: I take it back and go get yourself a Nike contract. You deserve it cause you rule! :GivingLoveTapWithFistOnYourChin:
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http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html
^actually a pretty interesting read.
Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.
53. In or around September 2008, Beasley learned, through a third party, that Malone and Bell had been making payments to his mother without his knowledge or consent for years. He felt betrayed by the men in whom he had placed his trust and immediately terminated the Agent Contract and the Merchandising Agreement with Bell and dramatically shifted his relationship with Malone at the same time.
betrayal is a bitter pill to swallow. explains a lot about the falling out between DCA and Hill
I'm assuming the Cam Newton thing will apply here. Thanks, Cam. Turns out you may have helped EMAW afterall.
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:love: Frank can never leave us now :love:
ha
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This is great . . . really like what this means for K-State basketball.
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yes. if it was reasonable that ksu should have known. which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel".
there is nothing ncaa-wrong with an aau club paying for the tourney related travel of a player's parents. i don't think there is even any issue with an agent donating to the aau club and the club using that money for bball opps that involve the player. the amateur issue only enters with the direct involvement of the agent and a player.
you are right on the "living normal" stuff.
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nolan smith signed with bell, in case anyone else was wondering.
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How many womens basketball scholly's should we voluntarily give up to avoid ncaa sanctions? I think 2, plus 1 womens tennis ought to cover it.
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This is scorched earth tactics by Beasley. He is destroying these guys.
Which means if Malone or Bell have anything on Dalonte or K-State they will air it all out. Don't think this is over.
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if Malone or Bell have anything on Dalonte or K-State they will air it all out. Don't think this is over.
no way.
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Part of Delonte Hill's huge salary is the money he uses to pay off sleazeballs to get players. Since it comes out of his personal account, it's off limits to NCAA. Huggins and Frank Martin are both guilty as sin when it comes to paying players. This is how it works now, kids.
much like morphine, you don't realize how much you miss this stuff till you get another little taste.
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nolan smith signed with bell, in case anyone else was wondering.
did he get a nike contract?
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meh
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meh
My thoughts exactly. Honestly, wgaf.
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meh
My thoughts exactly. Honestly, wgaf.
bball fans gaf. get out of here, combo trash.
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meh
My thoughts exactly. Honestly, wgaf.
bball fans gaf. get out of here, combo trash.
sys. It is OK. EMAW bball is YOUR precious, and they aren't going to take it.
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Holloway acknowledges being that person. He said he provided financial assistance to Smith — at her request — that included paying her rent in Manhattan, Kan., during the 2007-08 academic year. He said he also purchased, at Beasley’s request, the sport-utility vehicle that Beasley drove while at Kansas State.
Contrary to Beasley’s suits, Holloway said Beasley was aware of the benefits being provided to Smith.
“Beasley knew everything,” Holloway said. “His mother knew everything.”
welp.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/dc-based-cpa-claims-responsibility-for-benefits-micahel-beasley-received/2011/10/28/gIQAfLnYQM_story.html
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Shouldn't change much about KSU's position IMO. They'll argue that they couldn't have reasonably known about that. Holloway doesn't have any KSU connections. Beasely(despite what some would like to think) wasn't driving around in some 50k vehicle. It'll still come down to whether the NCAA thinks of KSU as one of the little guys and hammers them or one of the big guys and tells them to not do it again.
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Holloway acknowledges being that person. He said he provided financial assistance to Smith — at her request — that included paying her rent in Manhattan, Kan., during the 2007-08 academic year. He said he also purchased, at Beasley’s request, the sport-utility vehicle that Beasley drove while at Kansas State.
Contrary to Beasley’s suits, Holloway said Beasley was aware of the benefits being provided to Smith.
“Beasley knew everything,” Holloway said. “His mother knew everything.”
welp.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/dc-based-cpa-claims-responsibility-for-benefits-micahel-beasley-received/2011/10/28/gIQAfLnYQM_story.html
Good lord this gets more elite by the day. Can we get some strip club/plane ticket action please?
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Finally read through the full pleadings. Found this interesting.
61. In addition, Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant the outstanding balance that Counter-Defendant claimed was due him. Specifically, Bell demanded that Beasley reimburse Counter-Defendant for thousands of dollars that had been laid out before Beasley had ever signed a player-agent agreement. Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant in full.
So, according to Mike, all of the "extra benefits" have been paid back some time ago.
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Finally read through the full pleadings. Found this interesting.
61. In addition, Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant the outstanding balance that Counter-Defendant claimed was due him. Specifically, Bell demanded that Beasley reimburse Counter-Defendant for thousands of dollars that had been laid out before Beasley had ever signed a player-agent agreement. Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant in full.
So, according to Mike, all of the "extra benefits" have been paid back some time ago.
would this not be viewed an admission that he received the goods in the NCAA's eyes? Who cares legally, but NCAA-wise could be bad for us?
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Finally read through the full pleadings. Found this interesting.
61. In addition, Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant the outstanding balance that Counter-Defendant claimed was due him. Specifically, Bell demanded that Beasley reimburse Counter-Defendant for thousands of dollars that had been laid out before Beasley had ever signed a player-agent agreement. Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant in full.
So, according to Mike, all of the "extra benefits" have been paid back some time ago.
would this not be viewed an admission that he received the goods in the NCAA's eyes? Who cares legally, but NCAA-wise could be bad for us?
That paragraph comes after the ones about Mike not knowing anything about any of it until after he was gone from KSU. When he found out, he fired Bell. Bell was all "I've paid out $_______ over the years, you owe me". Mike cut the check.
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Seriously seems like Mike has us in mind. :ksu:
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We come off pretty good in this deal
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Finally read through the full pleadings. Found this interesting.
61. In addition, Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant the outstanding balance that Counter-Defendant claimed was due him. Specifically, Bell demanded that Beasley reimburse Counter-Defendant for thousands of dollars that had been laid out before Beasley had ever signed a player-agent agreement. Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant in full.
So, according to Mike, all of the "extra benefits" have been paid back some time ago.
would this not be viewed an admission that he received the goods in the NCAA's eyes? Who cares legally, but NCAA-wise could be bad for us?
he took the loan from bell after he left school but before he was drafted and started collecting paychecks. this is common practice.
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he took the loan from bell after he left school but before he was drafted and started collecting paychecks. this is common practice.
That's not what's being talked about in the part of the counter-suit I excerpted.
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he took the loan from bell after he left school but before he was drafted and started collecting paychecks. this is common practice.
That's not what's being talked about in the part of the counter-suit I excerpted.
so what?
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It's been a while. Looks like Beasley "won" last December. Bell asked for reconsideration and got it. They bickered through 2012 thus far and possibly had a settlement somewhat agreed to but didn't finalize it and Bell got a judgment vs. Beasley, and Beasley's gotten that set aside already. We need to get a reporter on the ground in Montgomery County.
This article is from when Mike won that initial ruling at the end of 2011:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/judge-sides-with-michael-beasley-in-case-against-former-agent-joel-bell-says-he-will-appeal/2011/12/06/gIQAoxAlaO_story.html
The court record that takes you from before that article and through now doesn't c&p well. If you want to see it, click here, http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiry-index.jsp and accept and enter case # 342922V from Montgomery County Circuit Court.
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sooo....NCAA give a crap about this?