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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: chum1 on October 25, 2011, 11:16:54 AM
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is klein the smartest qb that snyder has ever had? best field general? coach snyder is always ahead of the curve. remember when he started the dumb, athletic qb trend? maybe things are trending the other way now. whatever works! lol.
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I would say Klein is the best at faking me out with his zone option fake handoff things or whatever. You probably have to be pretty smart to be the best at that. Anyone have this kid in class? What kind of grades are we looking at here? Like, borderline A/B student? That's the feeling I get from him.
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He's like a more athletic Grant Gregory. Gregory was pretty intelligent...it's hard to tell which one was smarter.
I guess after Coffman, you have to look pretty smart though.
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TBH I really want to see him in a situation where we actually HAVE to throw the ball for more than one possession. There's been times where we've come out and thrown 5-6 balls in one possession but not consistently. How much of our efficiency in the pass game is dependent on the defense being overly concerned about the run?
I like what he's done so far. Seems to be pretty intelligent. Pretty good at running the zone read and the option. I think he struggles the most in progressions in the pass game, but that's correctable and I think he's getting better (TD to Lockett last week wasn't his first option). His deep balls (nohomo) have been inconsistent.
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don't compare the chamber to grant rough ridin' gregory :dubious:
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don't compare the chamber to grant rough ridin' gregory :dubious:
You need to respect Grant Gregory for pulling our crap out of a black hole that was Coffman's first eff up. RESPECT HIM!
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If he didn't already have such an awesome nickname I would call him Mr. Intangibles.
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Both Klein and Hubert run that zone read hand-off very well.
Case and Point, at the :57 mark where the KU linebacker tackles Hubert while Klein keeps it or the 1:24 mark where Klein could have easily kept it and gotten around the end but gives it anyway and Hubert still scores. Don't know how many times Ive seen this especially in the red zone. Says a lot for the blocking also giving these guys those options.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHSgwjCMqRw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHSgwjCMqRw)
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Both Klein and Hubert run that zone read hand-off very well.
Case and Point, at the :57 mark where the KU linebacker tackles Hubert while Klein keeps it or the 1:24 mark where Klein could have easily kept it and gotten around the end but gives it anyway and Hubert still scores. Don't know how many times Ive seen this especially in the red zone. Says a lot for the blocking also giving these guys those options.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHSgwjCMqRw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHSgwjCMqRw)
I totally get faked out half the time watching the game
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He's like a more athletic Grant Gregory. Gregory was pretty intelligent...it's hard to tell which one was smarter.
I guess after Coffman, you have to look pretty smart though.
No way man, "Coffman was totally a game manager."
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I would say Klein is the best at faking me out with his zone option fake handoff things or whatever. You probably have to be pretty smart to be the best at that. Anyone have this kid in class? What kind of grades are we looking at here? Like, borderline A/B student? That's the feeling I get from him.
My g/f is in the same major as him (finance or accounting or whatever) and she has him in a bunch of her classes. She says he always looks beat up and tired but gets like all A's and some B's.
Source F+.
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is klein the smartest qb that snyder has ever had? best field general? coach snyder is always ahead of the curve. remember when he started the dumb, athletic qb trend? maybe things are trending the other way now. whatever works! lol.
great question by the OP. right now it's just impossible to say. snyder built DOD1 on snyder players. ie-dumb and athletic. he's now building DOD2 with Prince players. ie-not dumb. time will tell whether snyder is just making the best of the situation or whether he's actually changed philosophies. will he be able to keep winning once all the prince players are gone is another good question. do we have any good answers to all of these good questions would be another good question. i don't think we do.
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TBH I really want to see him in a situation where we actually HAVE to throw the ball for more than one possession. There's been times where we've come out and thrown 5-6 balls in one possession but not consistently. How much of our efficiency in the pass game is dependent on the defense being overly concerned about the run?
I like what he's done so far. Seems to be pretty intelligent. Pretty good at running the zone read and the option. I think he struggles the most in progressions in the pass game, but that's correctable and I think he's getting better (TD to Lockett last week wasn't his first option). His deep balls (nohomo) have been inconsistent.
I have believed for the last 3 games now; that throwing the ball is our Ace in the hole. Everyone still believes we're incapable of throwing the ball.... but I keep going back to the exchange between Harper & a Miami Defender: "Tell your QB to throw the ball" CH response: "Stop him from running it" (and he will) :wink:
We're unstoppable fellas. Play your cards close to the chest because eeking out a 3 pt victory doesn't matter when you're 7-0
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is klein the smartest qb that snyder has ever had? best field general? coach snyder is always ahead of the curve. remember when he started the dumb, athletic qb trend? maybe things are trending the other way now. whatever works! lol.
great question by the OP. right now it's just impossible to say. snyder built DOD1 on snyder players. ie-dumb and athletic. he's now building DOD2 with Prince players. ie-not dumb. time will tell whether snyder is just making the best of the situation or whether he's actually changed philosophies. will he be able to keep winning once all the prince players are gone is another good question. do we have any good answers to all of these good questions would be another good question. i don't think we do.
Isn't it crazy that we are talking about winning with the Prince players... back when Prince recruited them the consensus was :facepalm:
Oh well, whatever works. FWIW, I dont care if we need to keep selling the run in order to open things up - as long as we can open the lanes and fire off a pass or two at the opportune moment - we should be good.
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all a's and some b's. i knew it. on the other hand, remember how bishop had the lowest wonderlic score of all time? klein would never fumble at the end of the ccg.
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all a's and some b's. i knew it. on the other hand, remember how bishop had the lowest wonderlic score of all time? klein would never fumble at the end of the ccg.
yes, very good at holding onto the ball. smart to do that.
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is klein the smartest qb that snyder has ever had? best field general? coach snyder is always ahead of the curve. remember when he started the dumb, athletic qb trend? maybe things are trending the other way now. whatever works! lol.
great question by the OP. right now it's just impossible to say. snyder built DOD1 on snyder players. ie-dumb and athletic. he's now building DOD2 with Prince players. ie-not dumb. time will tell whether snyder is just making the best of the situation or whether he's actually changed philosophies. will he be able to keep winning once all the prince players are gone is another good question. do we have any good answers to all of these good questions would be another good question. i don't think we do.
Isn't it crazy that we are talking about winning with the Prince players... back when Prince recruited them the consensus was :facepalm:
Oh well, whatever works. FWIW, I dont care if we need to keep selling the run in order to open things up - as long as we can open the lanes and fire off a pass or two at the opportune moment - we should be good.
what prince players were we :facepalm: about that are actually contributing? Pretty sure everything I'm excited about this year is transfers or younger guys... CK is really the only prince player that comes to mind
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is klein the smartest qb that snyder has ever had? best field general? coach snyder is always ahead of the curve. remember when he started the dumb, athletic qb trend? maybe things are trending the other way now. whatever works! lol.
great question by the OP. right now it's just impossible to say. snyder built DOD1 on snyder players. ie-dumb and athletic. he's now building DOD2 with Prince players. ie-not dumb. time will tell whether snyder is just making the best of the situation or whether he's actually changed philosophies. will he be able to keep winning once all the prince players are gone is another good question. do we have any good answers to all of these good questions would be another good question. i don't think we do.
Isn't it crazy that we are talking about winning with the Prince players... back when Prince recruited them the consensus was :facepalm:
Oh well, whatever works. FWIW, I dont care if we need to keep selling the run in order to open things up - as long as we can open the lanes and fire off a pass or two at the opportune moment - we should be good.
what prince players were we :facepalm: about that are actually contributing? Pretty sure everything I'm excited about this year is transfers or younger guys... CK is really the only prince player that comes to mind
The point is the majority of them were the suck and that many of them DIDN'T contribute.
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Good at yelling and fist-pumping after touchdowns too. Another smart habit.
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Beasley was pretty smart, rest of DoD QBs - not so much
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Beasley was pretty smart, rest of DoD QBs - not so much
He was allowed to call many of his own plays during his senior year.
What about Marc Dunn? Everyone always forgets about Marc Dunn.
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By all acounts Dylan Meier was pretty smart. Not smart enough to keep from falling off a cliff, but still pretty smart.
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By all acounts Dylan Meier was pretty smart. Not smart enough to keep from falling off a cliff, but still pretty smart.
i've got my eyes on you.
:dubious:
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Beasley was pretty smart, rest of DoD QBs - not so much
He was allowed to call many of his own plays during his senior year.
There's a reason JB's on the sideline today, and it ain't 'cause he's goodlooking.
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By all acounts Dylan Meier was pretty smart. Not smart enough to keep from falling off a cliff, but still pretty smart.
i've got my eyes on you.
:dubious:
:runaway: :ohno: (I didn't mean to sound so callous. Just that it was better for me to say that then to say "that Dylan Meier was pretty smart" and then jtksu would be all like "HE FELL OF A rough ridin' CLIFF!!! DER DER DER DER!!" So really I was just trying to avoid that.)
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iirc, beasley was more of an athletic type of qb than a smart, field general type of qb.
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Snyder is the Billy Beane of college football?
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agreed with everyone re: beasley being more of a wildcat field general than a talented QB. very much like brian kavanaugh, another heady QB field general.
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
This is great.
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Jeff Schwinn might be the smartest ever.
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Was waiting for this... :thumbsup:
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Carsy Coff was smart?
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
i'd prob put beasley on the freeman list.
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I just assume all of our football players, regardless of position, are rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). It's always a pleasant surprise to find out somebody is actually an academic all american.
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Was going to say Kavanaugh and Beasley need to be switched, but after finding this http://airjudden1.tripod.com/ksuqb/jbresume.htm (http://airjudden1.tripod.com/ksuqb/jbresume.htm) I guess the above is correct
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Why are you so racist MIR? Why?
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Don't forget Lamur. I hear he's our dumbest QB yet.
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Pretty sure some would have Kevin "vowel at the end" Lopina on at least the Freemaw list.
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Pretty sure some would have Kevin "vowel at the end" Lopina on at least the Freemaw list.
No, I think Lopina was just an unathletic white guy who only got as far as he did due to his intellect.
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Sammuel Lamur, Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman, Jonathan Beasley
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Added Slammur and moved Beasley, honestly I was realy unsure about. I knew he wasn't fully smart, thought he was dumb all of the time but I could be convinced that he's half smart.
Turtle, denied Lopina stays, he's extremely smart
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is klein the smartest qb that snyder has ever had? best field general? coach snyder is always ahead of the curve. remember when he started the dumb, athletic qb trend? maybe things are trending the other way now. whatever works! lol.
great question by the OP. right now it's just impossible to say. snyder built DOD1 on snyder players. ie-dumb and athletic. he's now building DOD2 with Prince players. ie-not dumb. time will tell whether snyder is just making the best of the situation or whether he's actually changed philosophies. will he be able to keep winning once all the prince players are gone is another good question. do we have any good answers to all of these good questions would be another good question. i don't think we do.
Isn't it crazy that we are talking about winning with the Prince players... back when Prince recruited them the consensus was :facepalm:
Oh well, whatever works. FWIW, I dont care if we need to keep selling the run in order to open things up - as long as we can open the lanes and fire off a pass or two at the opportune moment - we should be good.
what prince players were we :facepalm: about that are actually contributing? Pretty sure everything I'm excited about this year is transfers or younger guys... CK is really the only prince player that comes to mind
And he was recruited as a WR :dunno:
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Why are you so racist MIR? Why?
4. Charles Barkley
Because of Charles’ happy-go-lucky demeanor, he often gets away with saying some pretty garish stuff that would leave others crucified by the media. Having been somewhat outspoken on race issues in the past, he stepped up his game when it came to the discussion of black coaches in college football. He blasted Auburn for not hiring the black candidate, while further condemning Notre Dame for firing Tyrone Willingham, which I agree with, but not on the merits of race.
However, Charles Barkley’s shining racist comment hearkens back to a press conference when he was asked if he thought his team not getting calls was a racial issue, to which he responded “This is why I hate white people” Says the guy with the white wife.
Because it was Chuck, the press conference erupted with laughter and the world kept on spinning. However, if the races had been reversed, I think we would have seen a very different outcome for the perpetrator.
:love:
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:opcat:
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Kavanaugh & May on the "Smart" list? That's a REAL laugher! I also don't think I'd put Ell on the "Dumb" list, he belongs on the Freeman list at worst. I agree that Beasley goes on the 1/2 and 1/2 list too - for consistency, he was our most successful QB and game manager ever. Never saw enough out of Marc Dunn to make a real determination there. Another one for the low IQ list is Smargiasso (sp?). Where would you rate Adam Helm, Paul Watson, Carl Straw, who else are we missing from the Snyder/Prince eras? (can't remember the name of the kid with the stomach disorder . . . )
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Kavanaugh & May on the "Smart" list? That's a REAL laugher! I also don't think I'd put Ell on the "Dumb" list, he belongs on the Freeman list at worst. I agree that Beasley goes on the 1/2 and 1/2 list too - for consistency, he was our most successful QB and game manager ever. Never saw enough out of Marc Dunn to make a real determination there. Another one for the low IQ list is Smargiasso (sp?). Where would you rate Adam Helm, Paul Watson, Carl Straw, who else are we missing from the Snyder/Prince eras? (can't remember the name of the kid with the stomach disorder . . . )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buwpJm-6oEM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buwpJm-6oEM)
That being said if I did this for posters, I'm pretty sure you'd make my smart list.
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By all acounts Dylan Meier was pretty smart. Not smart enough to keep from falling off a cliff, but still pretty smart.
i've got my eyes on you.
:dubious:
:runaway: :ohno: (I didn't mean to sound so callous. Just that it was better for me to say that then to say "that Dylan Meier was pretty smart" and then jtksu would be all like "HE FELL OF A rough ridin' CLIFF!!! DER DER DER DER!!" So really I was just trying to avoid that.)
:nono: :dubious:
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Kavanaugh & May on the "Smart" list? That's a REAL laugher! I also don't think I'd put Ell on the "Dumb" list, he belongs on the Freeman list at worst. I agree that Beasley goes on the 1/2 and 1/2 list too - for consistency, he was our most successful QB and game manager ever. Never saw enough out of Marc Dunn to make a real determination there. Another one for the low IQ list is Smargiasso (sp?). Where would you rate Adam Helm, Paul Watson, Carl Straw, who else are we missing from the Snyder/Prince eras? (can't remember the name of the kid with the stomach disorder . . . )
He's being racist because he's black and hates white people.
I didn't understand it either until I remembered how reverse :opcat: MIR is.
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MIR nailed it. Thanks for breaking it down for all of us. The exact lines I would've drawn. Feel like we should just go ahead and put Tuggle, SLamur on the dumb list. Then put Sams on there once we pull the redshirt
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Kavanaugh & May on the "Smart" list? That's a REAL laugher! I also don't think I'd put Ell on the "Dumb" list, he belongs on the Freeman list at worst. I agree that Beasley goes on the 1/2 and 1/2 list too - for consistency, he was our most successful QB and game manager ever. Never saw enough out of Marc Dunn to make a real determination there. Another one for the low IQ list is Smargiasso (sp?). Where would you rate Adam Helm, Paul Watson, Carl Straw, who else are we missing from the Snyder/Prince eras? (can't remember the name of the kid with the stomach disorder . . . )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buwpJm-6oEM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buwpJm-6oEM)
That being said if I did this for posters, I'm pretty sure you'd make my smart list.
That would be a fun thread
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Kavanaugh & May on the "Smart" list? That's a REAL laugher! I also don't think I'd put Ell on the "Dumb" list, he belongs on the Freeman list at worst. I agree that Beasley goes on the 1/2 and 1/2 list too - for consistency, he was our most successful QB and game manager ever. Never saw enough out of Marc Dunn to make a real determination there. Another one for the low IQ list is Smargiasso (sp?). Where would you rate Adam Helm, Paul Watson, Carl Straw, who else are we missing from the Snyder/Prince eras? (can't remember the name of the kid with the stomach disorder . . . )
He's being racist because he's black and hates white people.
I didn't understand it either until I remembered how reverse :opcat: MIR is.
not reverse :opcat: just :opcat: my racism works the same, I just hate different people
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athletic people are dumb because they don't have to be smart. then, they get mumped over by themselves when they take the wonderlic. see bishop, michael.
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I can't wait to hear the stories next offseason of how Sams just can't figure out the playbook.
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Sammuel Lamur, Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman, Jonathan Beasley
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Added Slammur and moved Beasley, honestly I was realy unsure about. I knew he wasn't fully smart, thought he was dumb all of the time but I could be convinced that he's half smart.
Turtle, denied Lopina stays, he's extremely smart
yeah. i mean i didn't watch beasely enough to know exactly how smart he is and am in no way stating that he is smart 50% of the time. that's a lot. i do think it's fairly safe that he is not entirely dumb though. maybe need a fourth list. :dunno:
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Sammuel Lamur, Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman, Jonathan Beasley
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Added Slammur and moved Beasley, honestly I was realy unsure about. I knew he wasn't fully smart, thought he was dumb all of the time but I could be convinced that he's half smart.
Turtle, denied Lopina stays, he's extremely smart
yeah. i mean i didn't watch beasely enough to know exactly how smart he is am in no way stating that he is smart 50% of the time. that's a lot. i do think it's fairly safe that he is not entirely dumb though. maybe need a fourth list. :dunno:
JB was an extension of HCBS's brain on the field. Extremely high football IQ.
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I remember Chad Mays evaluation read "rocket for and arm but no rocket scientist." Don't know if that means he isn't smart, not many of us are rocket scientists :dunno:.
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I know Stan Weber was not a Snyder player, but I had him in a class, and Stanbot is an extremely smart person who pulled straight A's.
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Announcer used to constantly praise Beasely's football IQ. Course, they may just be something you say while waiting for the playclock to run down to 1.
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CK and his brother guest taught (?) my thermodynamics class last week for a little. Of course this was just our teacher getting us pumped for Beat KU week and he pretty much layed out what they said. Either way :love:
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Lack of delay of game penalties alone puts Chamber in a class all his own. Also have noticed that timeouts with play clock at :01 has reduced this year. Much better timeout management this year. Also seems like plays get in quicker from the sidelines this year. Maybe it's easier to call plays quickly when all of them work??????
All of this rhetoric will :flush: after OU game.
PS Cats still win :ksu:
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
:lol:
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Sammuel Lamur, Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman, Jonathan Beasley
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Added Slammur and moved Beasley, honestly I was realy unsure about. I knew he wasn't fully smart, thought he was dumb all of the time but I could be convinced that he's half smart.
Turtle, denied Lopina stays, he's extremely smart
Are these lists in descending order, say from dumbest to least dumb on the dumb list? If so, I think that Bishop has to be the No. 2 dumb QB, I mean he definitely looks dumber than Roberson and I think he was dumber looking than Webb as well. Def. not as dumb looking as S. Lamur though.
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I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure beasley was smart at least a fourth of the time.
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I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure beasley was smart at least a fourth of the time.
probably right, I think Daris nailed it
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Sammuel Lamur, Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman, Jonathan Beasley
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Added Slammur and moved Beasley, honestly I was realy unsure about. I knew he wasn't fully smart, thought he was dumb all of the time but I could be convinced that he's half smart.
Turtle, denied Lopina stays, he's extremely smart
Are these lists in descending order, say from dumbest to least dumb on the dumb list? If so, I think that Bishop has to be the No. 2 dumb QB, I mean he definitely looks dumber than Roberson and I think he was dumber looking than Webb as well. Def. not as dumb looking as S. Lamur though.
They weren't in descending order, I could only do that for the dumb list. If you're smart you're smart although Turtle brought up a good point with some people thinking that smart people with vowels at the end of their names being not as smart. But as a dumb person, I can tell you that there are varying degrees of dumb in our world and dumb people judge other dummies based on it.
IMHO Sammuel Lamur is the dumbest followed by Allen Webb, who BTW after doing some research was much dumber than I remember, then Bish, with sexy but still dumb Ell a distant fourth. Ell could be confused as one who is sometimes smart but someone trained to know such things won't be fooled.
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every other nicname goEMAW coined spread like wildfire, the chamber died like a one of dax's pheasants.
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every other nicname goEMAW coined spread like wildfire, the chamber died like a one of dax's pheasants.
Yes, goEMAW is a sellout. Anyway, this means we should start brainstorming for a certain intelligent floor leader on the basketball team?
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Sammuel Lamur, Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman, Jonathan Beasley
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Added Slammur and moved Beasley, honestly I was realy unsure about. I knew he wasn't fully smart, thought he was dumb all of the time but I could be convinced that he's half smart.
Turtle, denied Lopina stays, he's extremely smart
Are these lists in descending order, say from dumbest to least dumb on the dumb list? If so, I think that Bishop has to be the No. 2 dumb QB, I mean he definitely looks dumber than Roberson and I think he was dumber looking than Webb as well. Def. not as dumb looking as S. Lamur though.
They weren't in descending order, I could only do that for the dumb list. If you're smart you're smart although Turtle brought up a good point with some people thinking that smart people with vowels at the end of their names being not as smart. But as a dumb person, I can tell you that there are varying degrees of dumb in our world and dumb people judge other dummies based on it.
IMHO Sammuel Lamur is the dumbest followed by Allen Webb, who BTW after doing some research was much dumber than I remember, then Bish, with sexy but still dumb Ell a distant fourth. Ell could be confused as one who is sometimes smart but someone trained to know such things won't be fooled.
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Guys, I do believe that Lamur is smart/athletic enough to kill the clock for us late in the 4th quarter this Saturday. He looked pretty good against KU.
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Guys, I do believe that Lamur is smart/athletic enough to kill the clock for us late in the 4th quarter this Saturday. He looked pretty good against KU.
:dubious:
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Jonathan Beasley, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Kavanaugh & May on the "Smart" list? That's a REAL laugher! I also don't think I'd put Ell on the "Dumb" list, he belongs on the Freeman list at worst. I agree that Beasley goes on the 1/2 and 1/2 list too - for consistency, he was our most successful QB and game manager ever. Never saw enough out of Marc Dunn to make a real determination there. Another one for the low IQ list is Smargiasso (sp?). Where would you rate Adam Helm, Paul Watson, Carl Straw, who else are we missing from the Snyder/Prince eras? (can't remember the name of the kid with the stomach disorder . . . )
Cody Lee Smith, and in light of the MIR name theorem, he cannot go on the smart KSU QB list
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I would say Klein is the best at faking me out with his zone option fake handoff things or whatever. You probably have to be pretty smart to be the best at that. Anyone have this kid in class? What kind of grades are we looking at here? Like, borderline A/B student? That's the feeling I get from him.
My g/f is in the same major as him (finance or accounting or whatever) and she has him in a bunch of her classes. She says he always looks beat up and tired but gets like all A's and some B's.
Source F+.
Odds that someone's gf is getting "chambered"?
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Just remember if it were not for people being dumber than you, you would then be the dumbest person in the world. Thank goodness there are dummies out there!
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Just remember if it were not for people being dumber than you, you would then be the dumbest person in the world. Thank goodness there are dummies out there!
lolwut
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Just remember if it were not for people being dumber than you, you would then be the dumbest person in the world. Thank goodness there are dummies out there!
word.
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Smart KSU QB's-Colin Klein, Carson Coffman, Grant Gregory, Dylan Meier, Allan Evridge, Kevin Lopina, Marc Dunn, Brian Kavanaugh, Matt Miller, Chad May
Dumb KSU QB's-Sammuel Lamur, Alan Webb, Ell Roberson, Michael Bishop
Dumb half or the time smart the other half KSU QB's-Josh Freeman, Jonathan Beasley
Did I miss anybody? Tell me the QB and I'll put them on one of my lists
Added Slammur and moved Beasley, honestly I was realy unsure about. I knew he wasn't fully smart, thought he was dumb all of the time but I could be convinced that he's half smart.
Turtle, denied Lopina stays, he's extremely smart
Are these lists in descending order, say from dumbest to least dumb on the dumb list? If so, I think that Bishop has to be the No. 2 dumb QB, I mean he definitely looks dumber than Roberson and I think he was dumber looking than Webb as well. Def. not as dumb looking as S. Lamur though.
They weren't in descending order, I could only do that for the dumb list. If you're smart you're smart although Turtle brought up a good point with some people thinking that smart people with vowels at the end of their names being not as smart. But as a dumb person, I can tell you that there are varying degrees of dumb in our world and dumb people judge other dummies based on it.
IMHO Sammuel Lamur is the dumbest followed by Allen Webb, who BTW after doing some research was much dumber than I remember, then Bish, with sexy but still dumb Ell a distant fourth. Ell could be confused as one who is sometimes smart but someone trained to know such things won't be fooled.
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I wish MIR would modify his lists to include helpful sub-categories like "Dumb", "Dumber", "Dumbest" and then rank said Wildcat players accordingly.
Additionally, no "smart" list is complete without Adam Helm. One of the smarter players to ever proudly wear the purple.