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Title: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: wetwillie on April 21, 2011, 04:01:31 PM
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Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Trim on April 21, 2011, 04:04:37 PM
Add Frank.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 04:10:12 PM
should be able to choose at least two.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: OK_Cat on April 21, 2011, 04:46:32 PM
i voted canadian, but for the record, i don't think anybody leaves.  martin teasing at leaving the past few weeks is the only off-season drama for us this year.   :emawkid:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: doom on April 21, 2011, 05:40:40 PM
i voted canadian, but for the record, i don't think anybody leaves.  martin teasing at leaving the past few weeks is the only off-season drama for us this year.   :emawkid:

At least one guy goes.  Nick or Canada.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 21, 2011, 06:23:52 PM
i voted canadian, but for the record, i don't think anybody leaves.  martin teasing at leaving the past few weeks is the only off-season drama for us this year.   :emawkid:

I had this mentality all season. I thought Sutton leaving was the only drama. Then Dillards was the last of it. Then Asprilla. Then Wally. And that had to be the last, right? Then Curtis almost gets kicked off the team. And now Frank won't say he's staying and Angel won't say he's coming. It never ends.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2011, 08:44:18 PM
rod and nick...sigh
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: wetty on April 22, 2011, 02:38:39 AM
Jamar.....Sutton version 2.0
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 22, 2011, 11:20:19 AM
Jamar.....Sutton version 2.0

This actually makes sense.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: 1/64th on April 22, 2011, 12:07:21 PM
Jamar.....Sutton version 2.0

This actually makes sense.

Actually it makes no sense at all....there is no comparison at all.  Dom had younger more "talented" guys ready to fill his spot.  Jamar has no one trying to take his spot. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: hemmy on April 22, 2011, 12:10:24 PM
The whole team
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2011, 12:11:48 PM
The whole team

Would rather blow it all up than to see Rod go.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on April 22, 2011, 12:12:09 PM
Jamar is the only senior next year, right? and a butt load of Juniors?  I think we need to dump at least 1 or 2 Juniors to balance our classes out.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 22, 2011, 12:12:27 PM
Jamar.....Sutton version 2.0

This actually makes sense.

Actually it makes no sense at all....there is no comparison at all.  Dom had younger more "talented" guys ready to fill his spot.  Jamar has no one trying to take his spot. 

Meh, Jamar made no progress this season.  You might even say he regressed some.  Some kids do care about getting better, or at the very least, having fun.  I don't think Jamar had fun this season.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 12:15:58 PM
Jamar is the only senior next year, right? and a butt load of Juniors?  I think we need to dump at least 1 or 2 Juniors to balance our classes out.

This makes sense, but we'd be replacing juniors with juniors with Jones or Watson.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: 8manpick on April 22, 2011, 04:21:48 PM
The guy that posted this today is going nowhere.

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Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on April 22, 2011, 05:26:13 PM
This makes sense, but we'd be replacing juniors with juniors with Jones or Watson.

yes, but then two of those will be jettisoned next year, so really it makes perfect sense again.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Cackle on April 22, 2011, 05:32:36 PM
saw Rod on campus today by Cardwell.  he looked sad :cry:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on April 23, 2011, 02:08:34 AM
saw Rod on campus today by Cardwell.  he looked sad :cry:
Would you guys shut the eff up about Rod leaving?  I mean if he does I will kill myself but he isn't leaving....YOU HEAR THAT ROD?  yOU ARE RESPONSIBLE!
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: RonLongshaft on April 24, 2011, 12:46:17 PM
hey idiots! Irving!  :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: wetwillie on April 25, 2011, 05:37:31 PM
warm it up!

1. Jamar Samuels
2. Nick Russell
3. Rodney McGruder
4. JHR
5. Martavious Irving
6. Juevol Myles
7.Will Spradling
8. Shane Southwell
9. Nino Williams
10. Omari Lawrence
11. Thomas Gipson
12. Diaz
13. Angel
14. Jones
15. Shawshank


15 enter 13 leave , 15 enter 13 leave.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 25, 2011, 06:34:21 PM
Mods: Please rename this thread "ROSTER CAROUSEL MASTER THREAD (PERPETUALLY FEATURING THE KSU CATS!)"

For as much Frank talks about caring about the guys that play on the team, he sure doesn't seem to give a crap about the guys that play on the team.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: ChEtah on April 25, 2011, 06:42:03 PM
warm it up!

1. Jamar Samuels
2. Nick Russell
3. Rodney McGruder
4. JHR
5. Martavious Irving
6. Juevol Myles
7.Will Spradling
8. Shane Southwell
9. Nino Williams
10. Omari Lawrence
11. Thomas Gipson
12. Diaz
13. Angel
14. Jones
15. Shawshank


15 enter 13 leave , 15 enter 13 leave.

you can add Victor, Devon, and Watson to your list of people trying to get a scholarship.  One of which you are calling Shawshank...
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Scary Smart on April 25, 2011, 06:44:16 PM
Might as well take JamSlam and Rod out of the sweepstakes after you watch this video. Also, the adorableness/sexiness of these two continues to amaze me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC1DeZFu11g
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Spaces on April 25, 2011, 07:04:26 PM
Might as well take JamSlam and Rod out of the sweepstakes after you watch this video. Also, the adorableness/sexiness of these two continues to amaze me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC1DeZFu11g
Thought the same thing when I saw that.

I'm tired of the Rod rumors trying to  :bait: me and make me mad.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2011, 08:41:30 PM
Every player in the Frank Martin era.

Each player listed once, last year in the program listed. No returners to next year moved to 2012 yet, the 6 projected newcomers listed for 2012. Walk-ons in italics. Jucos underlined. Players with previous D1 experience in bold.

Name   Season
Andre Gilbert   2008
Bill Walker   2008
Blake Young   2008
Clent Stewart   2008
James Franklin   2008
Michael Beasley   2008
Abdul Herrera   2009
Anthony Downing   2009
Buchi Awaji   2009
Darren Kent   2009
Fred Brown   2009
Ron Anderson   2009
Chris Merriewether   2010
Denis Clemente   2010
Dominique Sutton   2010
Justin Werner   2010
Luis Colon   2010
Alex Potuzak   2011
Curtis Kelly   2011
Devon Peterson   2011
Freddy Asprilla   2011
Jacob Pullen   2011
Jamar Samuels   2011
Jordan Henriquez-Roberts   2011
Juevol Myles   2011
Martavious Irving   2011
Nick Russell   2011
Nino Williams   2011
Rodney McGruder   2011
Shane Southwell   2011
Victor Ojeleye   2011
Wally Judge   2011
Will Spradling   2011
Adrian Diaz   2012
Angel Rodriguez   2012
James Watson   2012
Jeremy Jones   2012
Omari Lawrence   2012
Thomas Gipson   2012
   
32 Scholarship Players   
7 Walk-on Players   

Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on April 25, 2011, 09:45:42 PM
good job, _fan.  looks like in a couple of days 10 of 26 scholarship players will have quit or transferred out during martin's reign of terror.  six will have graduated.


what a joke.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: MakeItRain on April 25, 2011, 11:59:17 PM
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Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on April 26, 2011, 07:04:32 AM
good job, _fan.  looks like in a couple of days 10 of 26 scholarship players will have quit or transferred out during martin's reign of terror.  six will have graduated.


what a joke.

sys turning on Frank?
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: wetwillie on April 26, 2011, 07:36:51 AM
warm it up!

1. Jamar Samuels
2. Nick Russell
3. Rodney McGruder
4. JHR
5. Martavious Irving
6. Juevol Myles
7.Will Spradling
8. Shane Southwell
9. Nino Williams
10. Omari Lawrence
11. Thomas Gipson
12. Diaz
13. Angel
14. Jones
15. Shawshank


15 enter 13 leave , 15 enter 13 leave.

you can add Victor, Devon, and Watson to your list of people trying to get a scholarship.  One of which you are calling Shawshank...


Victor and Devon's ship has sailed(see what I did there) and as for Watson I have no excuse for confusing him with the real shawshank. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 26, 2011, 08:39:39 AM
Frank's never gonna change fellas.  Just ask him.

Oh, while you're asking him about that, ask him about his salary also.

Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on April 26, 2011, 08:43:10 AM
while you're asking him about that, ask him about his salary also.

no need to ask.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2011, 10:52:53 AM
i think Shawshank just signed w/ Iowa.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on April 28, 2011, 02:35:13 PM
Report: Nick following in the footsteps (the first ones) of Dez Willingham...
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: slucat on April 28, 2011, 03:51:14 PM
Report: Nick following in the footsteps (the first ones) of Dez Willingham...

This
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: waks on April 28, 2011, 04:00:07 PM
Doesn't Ojeleye receive an academic scholarship?
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: slucat on April 28, 2011, 04:25:54 PM
Doesn't Ojeleye receive an academic scholarship?


I would think, he has a 3.9 GPA
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: 8manpick on April 28, 2011, 04:57:51 PM
while you're asking him about that, ask him about his salary also.

no need to ask.

According to the Manhattan Mercury's annual pay report which covered the M's today, Francisco Martin made 1,588,149.29 in 2010. Case closed.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 28, 2011, 05:56:15 PM
while you're asking him about that, ask him about his salary also.

no need to ask.

According to the Manhattan Mercury's annual pay report which covered the M's today, Francisco Martin made 1,588,149.29 in 2010. Case closed.

boom, roasted franks over the campfire
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on April 29, 2011, 10:44:32 AM
canada scoop.  if not myles, then who?   :ohno:


http://newsdurhamregion.com/sports/article/176236
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: wetwillie on April 29, 2011, 10:50:53 AM
canada scoop.  if not myles, then who?   :ohno:


http://newsdurhamregion.com/sports/article/176236


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With super stardom on his mind and the passion to lead instilled in his heart, Ajax native Juevol Myles believes he can play a prominent role with the Kansas State Wildcats next season.

Quote
"I'm very excited, this year in my eyes (individually) was a disappointment, but I always look at it like I could have still been in junior college," he said. "Now I know what to expect, and what I need to show coach Frank and the rest of the staff so I can help this team move forward in the future."

Quote
"There should be a lot (minutes) available next year. Every big school recruits all positions so I think there is a guard coming in, but that doesn't bother me because now I know what to do, and what I need to do in practice, the weight room and with my conditioning so I'm ready and can prove to coach Martin and the rest of the coaching staff that I'm ready to lead this team."

Either he is staying or about to be violently blindsided



Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 11:17:27 AM
well....eff.  has to be martavious, right?  has to be.  captaincrap said it's not Rod.  Nick is already gone.  can't be sprads/nino/shane, right?  RIGHT? 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 29, 2011, 11:59:47 AM
Juevol and Omari will share scholarship/apartment/girlfriend/jersey.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: omari on April 29, 2011, 12:01:37 PM
Juevol and Omari will share scholarship/apartment/girlfriend/jersey.

will take
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 29, 2011, 12:05:46 PM
Haha, nice entrance!  :lol:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 29, 2011, 12:06:44 PM
well....eff.  has to be martavious, right?  has to be.  captaincrap said it's not Rod.  Nick is already gone.  can't be sprads/nino/shane, right?  RIGHT? 

has jamar been ruled out? because if he hasn't, then i'm going w/ him.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 12:09:32 PM
well....eff.  has to be martavious, right?  has to be.  captaincrap said it's not Rod.  Nick is already gone.  can't be sprads/nino/shane, right?  RIGHT? 

has jamar been ruled out? because if he hasn't, then i'm going w/ him.

I think captain crap insinuated that since he and rod were on the promotional youtube video thing that they were ruled out....though he only mentioned rod by name....  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 29, 2011, 02:25:18 PM
Collegiate_Hoop Twitter
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Per Source, Kasnas State guard Nick Russell will transfer.

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: OK_Cat on April 29, 2011, 02:34:36 PM
 :zzz:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Benja on April 29, 2011, 02:35:04 PM
well, that's a giant huge non rough ridin' surprise
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 29, 2011, 02:38:18 PM
Poor Nick, so misunderstood.

Oh well, I have my new Fred Brown.   :pbj:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2011, 02:39:33 PM
Poor Nick, so misunderstood.

Oh well, I have my new Fred Brown.   :pbj:

No, denied.

Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 02:39:38 PM
I bet he scores a shitload at SMU
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 29, 2011, 03:09:38 PM
Poor Nick, so misunderstood.

Oh well, I have my new Fred Brown.   :pbj:

No, denied.



Perpetual K-State apologists do not get to deny anything.

Sorry . . . well, not really.

Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 29, 2011, 04:31:15 PM
I bet D Scott is really pissed that Canada is staying.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: doom on April 29, 2011, 05:04:55 PM
I bet he scores a cacload at SMU

I don't know.  Their coach is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2011, 05:07:43 PM
I bet he scores a cacload at SMU

I don't know.  Their coach is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). 

Good, his D may go unnoticed then. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 06:36:42 PM
I bet D Scott is really pissed that Canada is staying.

 :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 06:47:19 PM
Sprads  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: doom on April 29, 2011, 10:06:26 PM
Sprads  :horrorsurprise:

wtf?
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 10:07:16 PM
Sprads  :horrorsurprise:

wtf?

:frown:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 29, 2011, 10:10:03 PM
Sprads  :horrorsurprise:

wtf?

:frown:


I won't believe it until BSAC confirms.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 29, 2011, 10:10:58 PM
saw him today, looked like a lost puppy.  :surprised:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: 0.42 on April 29, 2011, 10:34:45 PM
 :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 10:36:13 PM
just some guy on GPC saying that's what he's hearing  :frown:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 10:39:53 PM
I take that back.  I will forgive the crap out of frank if he keeps winning.  who the eff am I kidding. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on April 30, 2011, 02:47:02 PM
No way it's sprads. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 30, 2011, 02:51:52 PM
No way it's sprads. 

It better rough ridin' not be
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Tobias on April 30, 2011, 03:01:00 PM
No way it's sprads. 

It better rough ridin' not be

i can actually visualize the collective tuck murdering frank.  bob knight on play-by-play.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Benja on April 30, 2011, 04:47:49 PM
Well, Nick was at the spring game sitting with the rest of the players.... and apparently telling people he'll be back next year, so......
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Trim on April 30, 2011, 04:52:48 PM
I say we keep them all and when the NCAA questions it, Frank can just inform them that he used to be a math teacher and knows how to count and they and their rules should consider themselves boom roasted.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 30, 2011, 04:54:00 PM
Frank doesn't count his bonus late signing period players in his scholarship figures. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Benja on April 30, 2011, 04:56:30 PM
Doc Spradling wasn't there, though  :frown:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Benja on April 30, 2011, 04:58:53 PM
And of course, no Jamar to be seen. The enigma.  :frown:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 30, 2011, 04:59:28 PM
Doc Spradling wasn't there, though  :frown:
:frown: (also Nick (or more likely that powerespect) is full of crap, he's gone)
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Benja on April 30, 2011, 05:00:37 PM
Doc Spradling wasn't there, though  :frown:
:frown: (also Nick (or more likely that powerespect) is full of crap, he's gone)


yeah, more likely that powerespect.












or it's sprads
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: gatoveintisiete on April 30, 2011, 07:22:22 PM
somebody make me a list of the roster with schollies, then tell me what number we have to be at, then give me emails for the roster and I will take care of the rest. tia :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Deez Nutz on April 30, 2011, 08:20:16 PM
Back in January a source of mine said that two guys were likely going to be gone during the off season:  Wally Judge and Will Spradling.  A week later Judge quit, and ever since then I've been worried about Spradling.  This whole time I didn't post on here about Spradling because I didn't want to start any rumors and because I hoped he would change his mind and stay.   :cry:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Tobias on April 30, 2011, 08:32:51 PM
Back in January a source of mine said that two guys were likely going to be gone during the off season:  Wally Judge and Will Spradling.  A week later Judge quit, and ever since then I've been worried about Spradling.  This whole time I didn't post on here about Spradling because I didn't want to start any rumors and because I hoped he would change his mind and stay.   :cry:

TrimGoPowercat may be able to get you a job.  pm for further details.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Trim on April 30, 2011, 08:47:32 PM
Back in January a source of mine said that two guys were likely going to be gone during the off season:  Wally Judge and Will Spradling.  A week later Judge quit, and ever since then I've been worried about Spradling.  This whole time I didn't post on here about Spradling because I didn't want to start any rumors and because I hoped he would change his mind and stay.   :cry:

TrimGoPowercat may be able to get you a job.  pm for further details.

Yep, that's the kind of initiative we look for at GPC.  Have you ever sterilized a desk before?
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Deez Nutz on April 30, 2011, 09:27:36 PM
Back in January a source of mine said that two guys were likely going to be gone during the off season:  Wally Judge and Will Spradling.  A week later Judge quit, and ever since then I've been worried about Spradling.  This whole time I didn't post on here about Spradling because I didn't want to start any rumors and because I hoped he would change his mind and stay.   :cry:

TrimGoPowercat may be able to get you a job.  pm for further details.

I don't need the job, but I wouldn't mind receiving an award of some kind for using the proper restraint on such highly sensitive information.  If I had spilled the beans too soon he might have left before the season was over.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 30, 2011, 09:37:24 PM
Back in January a source of mine said that two guys were likely going to be gone during the off season:  Wally Judge and Will Spradling.  A week later Judge quit, and ever since then I've been worried about Spradling.  This whole time I didn't post on here about Spradling because I didn't want to start any rumors and because I hoped he would change his mind and stay.   :cry:

TrimGoPowercat may be able to get you a job.  pm for further details.

I don't need the job, but I wouldn't mind receiving an award of some kind for using the proper restraint on such highly sensitive information.  If I had spilled the beans too soon he might have left before the season was over.

maybe the opposite though and if we knew in advance, we could've pi'd wally into staying and he wouldn't have had to have gone through the whole "frank, i quit. frank, i made a mistake and want back. what? i can't come back. seriously? :sad face:"

i mean really, you might be the reason that wally is no longer going to be here. think about that for a second.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Deez Nutz on April 30, 2011, 09:54:20 PM
Back in January a source of mine said that two guys were likely going to be gone during the off season:  Wally Judge and Will Spradling.  A week later Judge quit, and ever since then I've been worried about Spradling.  This whole time I didn't post on here about Spradling because I didn't want to start any rumors and because I hoped he would change his mind and stay.   :cry:

TrimGoPowercat may be able to get you a job.  pm for further details.

I don't need the job, but I wouldn't mind receiving an award of some kind for using the proper restraint on such highly sensitive information.  If I had spilled the beans too soon he might have left before the season was over.

maybe the opposite though and if we knew in advance, we could've pi'd wally into staying and he wouldn't have had to have gone through the whole "frank, i quit. frank, i made a mistake and want back. what? i can't come back. seriously? :sad face:"

i mean really, you might be the reason that wally is no longer going to be here. think about that for a second.
Yeah, I really hadn't thought of it that way so you may have a point.  However, the team started winning a bunch of games after Wally left, and some have argued that his leaving at that time was actually a good thing.  So perhaps I could then take some credit for indirectly being responsible for us beating KU, Texas, etc. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on April 30, 2011, 10:18:58 PM
mods, please immediatley ban deez nut for not spilling the beans on his rumor immediately when he heard it.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Deez Nutz on April 30, 2011, 10:25:25 PM
mods, please immediatley ban deez nut for not spilling the beans on his rumor immediately when he heard it.

Figured you would be clapping your hands about it now that your wish is about to come true.......

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10040.0
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on April 30, 2011, 10:45:53 PM
Figured you would be clapping your hands about it now that your wish is about to come true.......

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10040.0

heheh.  good bump, d. nutz.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Benja on April 30, 2011, 11:04:22 PM
mods, please immediatley ban deez nut for not spilling the beans on his rumor immediately when he heard it.

yeah. it's like, what the hell do we even have a message board for, if not to spread irresponsible rumors and such. bad person.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 30, 2011, 11:42:13 PM
mods, please immediatley ban deez nut for not spilling the beans on his rumor immediately when he heard it.

Figured you would be clapping your hands about it now that your wish is about to come true.......

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10040.0

 :lol:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on May 01, 2011, 09:24:23 AM
mods, please immediatley ban deez nut for not spilling the beans on his rumor immediately when he heard it.

yeah. it's like, what the hell do we even have a message board for, if not to spread irresponsible rumors and such. bad person.

Anyone who doesn't want their spilled beans on the board but still wants to get some beans off their chest can PM said beans to steve dave (the protector of secret beans). 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Deez Nutz on May 01, 2011, 10:03:06 AM
I'm supposed to meet with my source again later today and hope to find out more about it.  However, I can't guarantee all the beans will be spilled if the information is too juicy.   :batman:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Trim on May 01, 2011, 11:56:58 AM
I'm supposed to meet with my source again later today and hope to find out more about it.  However, I can't guarantee all the beans will be spilled if the information is too juicy.   :batman:

TrimGoPowercat can appreciate this.

TrimGoEMAW says eff You.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 01, 2011, 12:00:37 PM
I'm supposed to meet with my source again later today and hope to find out more about it.  However, I can't guarantee all the beans will be spilled if the information is too juicy.   :batman:

TrimGoPowercat can appreciate this.

TrimgoEMAW says eff You.

RickDarisKStateFans says please ask your source about possible wbb team defections as well.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Deez Nutz on May 01, 2011, 08:43:11 PM
TrimgoEMAW says eff You.

I know for a fact that my little brother could kick your little brother's ass.   :comehere:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Trim on May 01, 2011, 08:45:11 PM
TrimgoEMAW says eff You.

I know for a fact that my little brother could kick your little brother's ass.   :comehere:

Seems like you should donate then.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: wetwillie on May 01, 2011, 08:46:24 PM
The chokeout goEMAW kid cole would deliver to deez nutz and/or his little brother would be legendary
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Deez Nutz on May 01, 2011, 08:57:38 PM
TrimgoEMAW says eff You.

I know for a fact that my little brother could kick your little brother's ass.   :comehere:

Seems like you should donate then.

I've donated plenty of my time and financially over several years.  I even took my little bro to see us mop the floor with #1 KU a couple of months ago rather than sell the ticket for a couple hundred bucks.  I guarantee he is way more EMAW than your little bro.   :emawkid:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Trim on May 01, 2011, 09:00:51 PM
I've donated plenty of my time and financially over several years. 

Call the BFKS lady here tomorrow and see if she'll credit our goEMAW team with your time and financially.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 01, 2011, 09:06:26 PM
I'm supposed to meet with my source again later today and hope to find out more about it.  However, I can't guarantee all the beans will be spilled if the information is too juicy.   :batman:

TrimGoPowercat can appreciate this.

TrimgoEMAW says eff You.

RickDarisKStateFans says please ask your source about possible wbb team defections as well.
y-l_agoEMAW makes a big stink and acts like he is very dissapointed the slim jim, carrot, mayonnaise challenge didn't happen and blames Rick Daris
y-l_aRealLife is relieved he doesn't have to eat that crap.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Deez Nutz on May 01, 2011, 09:08:55 PM
I've donated plenty of my time and financially over several years. 

Call the BFKS lady here tomorrow and see if she'll credit our goEMAW team with your time and financially.

Yeah, but your BFKS is for the Wichita BBBS whereas mine would be for Riley County BBBS, so I would rather participate in my own shindig. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Trim on May 01, 2011, 09:10:36 PM
I've donated plenty of my time and financially over several years. 

Call the BFKS lady here tomorrow and see if she'll credit our goEMAW team with your time and financially.

Yeah, but your BFKS is for the Wichita BBBS whereas mine would be for Riley County BBBS, so I would rather participate in my own shindig. 

My fault.  I missed your post about how you're leading a corresponding Riley County goEMAW team.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Deez Nutz on May 01, 2011, 09:17:45 PM
I've donated plenty of my time and financially over several years. 

Call the BFKS lady here tomorrow and see if she'll credit our goEMAW team with your time and financially.

Yeah, but your BFKS is for the Wichita BBBS whereas mine would be for Riley County BBBS, so I would rather participate in my own shindig. 

My fault.  I missed your post about how you're leading a corresponding Riley County goEMAW team.

Well I'm not on a team this year.  I was a couple of times in the past, but I hate asking for donations.  I mainly just like hanging out w/ my little bro.  I've been specifically teaching him tae kwon do for the purpose of kicking your bro's ass, though. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Trim on May 01, 2011, 09:30:08 PM
I've donated plenty of my time and financially over several years. 

Call the BFKS lady here tomorrow and see if she'll credit our goEMAW team with your time and financially.

Yeah, but your BFKS is for the Wichita BBBS whereas mine would be for Riley County BBBS, so I would rather participate in my own shindig. 

My fault.  I missed your post about how you're leading a corresponding Riley County goEMAW team.

Well I'm not on a team this year.  I was a couple of times in the past, but I hate asking for donations.  I mainly just like hanging out w/ my little bro.  I've been specifically teaching him tae kwon do for the purpose of kicking your bro's ass, though. 

I don't mind asking for donations at all.  Donate some money, bad person.  goEMAW has a trophy to win.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on May 03, 2011, 03:07:21 PM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1218255

cassidy confirms.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: EllToPay on May 03, 2011, 03:12:37 PM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1218255

cassidy confirms.

:frown:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: theswo on May 03, 2011, 03:27:10 PM
Jeremy jones > nick russell :ck:. Frank?
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 03, 2011, 03:29:17 PM
:frown:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: EllToPay on May 03, 2011, 03:31:36 PM
he'll always have his running 3 to end the half against unlv. :frown:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 03, 2011, 03:33:47 PM
No question, Russell failed to live up to the hype he had as a recruit. Offensively, he was average(decent on a good day), defensively, he was subpar. Maybe if he would have gotten consistent, extended minutes, he could have established his game a little better.

At the end of the day, just a SOPH though, I guess our staff didn't see any room for improvement . :ck:

I hate to see Myles go with the likelihood of him losing eligibility if he wants to stay DI, but if the other transfer is anyone else other than him, it will be, for me at least, a definite WTF moment.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: OK_Cat on May 03, 2011, 03:36:12 PM
never understood why russell is such a folk hero to ksufans/goEMAW'rs.  he was never consistent and never showed signs of being a big time player. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 03, 2011, 03:37:19 PM
No question, Russell failed to live up to the hype he had as a recruit. Offensively, he was average(decent on a good day), defensively, he was subpar. Maybe if he would have gotten consistent, extended minutes, he could have established his game a little better.

At the end of the day, just a SOPH though, I guess our staff didn't see any room for improvement . :ck:

I hate to see Myles go with the likelihood of him losing eligibility if he wants to stay DI, but if the other transfer is anyone else other than him, it will be, for me at least, a definite WTF moment.

Are we sure that there will be another?  2 grads, wally, and nick leave, 4 sign including gip, watson, jones, omari.

I assume if anyone else leaves, it will be 95 getting the 'ship

 :dunno:

are my numbers off?
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 03, 2011, 03:38:07 PM
never understood why russell is such a folk hero to ksufans/goEMAW'rs.  he was never consistent and never showed signs of being a big time player. 

This, but I always got a lot of crap for pointing this out.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 03, 2011, 03:39:01 PM
never understood why russell is such a folk hero to ksufans/goEMAW'rs.  he was never consistent and never showed signs of being a big time player. 

My only issue is that we are replacing him with somebody else who will be inconsistent and never be a big time player. If anybody else transfers other than Canada, I will seriously start to turn on Frank.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 03, 2011, 03:42:26 PM
Scolly count
1. Samuels
2. McGruder
3. Henriquez
4. Irving
5. Spradling
6. Southwell
7. Williams
8. Gipson
9. Diaz
10. Rodriguez
11. Lawrence
12. Watson
13. Jones
14. Myles

Something's got to give.

No scolly for DPete I guess   :frown:
 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: EllToPay on May 03, 2011, 03:43:20 PM
never understood why russell is such a folk hero to ksufans/goEMAW'rs.  he was never consistent and never showed signs of being a big time player. 

which of our guards this year (excluding jake) showed consistency and big timey-ness? nick, when played consistently, was the best offensive threat.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: wetwillie on May 03, 2011, 03:46:09 PM
the meltdown will be epic when it turns out to be rod
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2011, 03:46:59 PM
Who here wouldn't take Spradling over Russell?  Really all that needs to be said.  We have plenty of 2's that are Russell level.  I grant that he seemed like he should be better than he was, but that's very different than actually doing it particularly with Frank steering ship.  This is sad and all, but mostly because devon won't get a ship.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: OK_Cat on May 03, 2011, 03:48:28 PM
95 isn't getting a 'ship.  <---- ok_cat confirmed on twitter last week.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 03, 2011, 03:57:45 PM
Quote
judge_me_now Wally Judge
Wow ppl act like I'm the first player to leave k- state in the last 3 years

 :lol:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 03, 2011, 03:59:23 PM
Quote
judge_me_now Wally Judge
And even if ur like "oh he left in the middle of the season" there were 9 games left I think thats way less than half. Check that math
Favorite Reply

CHECK YOUR SOURCE!!!

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: jtksu on May 03, 2011, 04:08:07 PM
Sprads is way better than Nick.  At least Sprads gives us another outside threat and plays decent D.  Nicks does... well, what does Nick do?  He's good for like 2 good games per season.  eff Nick and eff Wally for being such a little bitch lately.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: 8manpick on May 03, 2011, 04:23:25 PM
Quote
judge_me_now Wally Judge
And even if ur like "oh he left in the middle of the season" there were 9 games left I think thats way less than half. Check that math
Favorite Reply

CHECK YOUR SOURCE!!!

 :facepalm:

The FP only played in 17 of our 34 games... half
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 03, 2011, 04:29:24 PM
Quote
judge_me_now Wally Judge
Lmao 9 players have left in the last 3 years. So we all must be assholes huh lil

LOUD NOISES!!!
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on May 03, 2011, 04:45:32 PM
Quote
judge_me_now Wally Judge
Lmao 9 players have left in the last 3 years. So we all must be assholes huh lil

are people calling judge an bad person on twitter?  i hate our fans.

Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 03, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
Quote
judge_me_now Wally Judge
Lmao 9 players have left in the last 3 years. So we all must be assholes huh lil

are people calling judge an bad person on twitter?  i hate our fans.



I can only find one tweet that would have done it... There was nothing else.

Quote
BobSpecht Bobby Specht
So...@NickRussell12 just pulled a @judge_me_now. #adios #KState

Does Bobby post here?? Prepare for some twitter hate.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 03, 2011, 05:10:57 PM
Quote
judge_me_now Wally Judge
Lmao 9 players have left in the last 3 years. So we all must be assholes huh lil

are people calling judge an bad person on twitter?  i hate our fans.



I didn't see any of this.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on May 03, 2011, 05:13:54 PM
Quote
are people calling judge an bad person on twitter?  i hate our fans.

I didn't see any of this.

yeah, maybe he is referencing something else.  i hope he is attacking ryan wallace who has been attacking him as a player and a person on 1350.  someone should beat the crap out of wallace (ryan), what a joke.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: wetwillie on May 03, 2011, 05:22:02 PM
Quote
judge_me_now Wally Judge
Lmao 9 players have left in the last 3 years. So we all must be assholes huh lil

are people calling judge an bad person on twitter?  i hate our fans.



I can only find one tweet that would have done it... There was nothing else.

Quote
BobSpecht Bobby Specht
So...@NickRussell12 just pulled a @judge_me_now. #adios #KState

Does Bobby post here?? Prepare for some twitter hate.


Lol Bobby will probably think Canada is jumping ship too, the idea that a scholarship player could be forced out is foreign to the tucks.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2011, 05:23:23 PM
are people calling judge an bad person on twitter?  i hate our fans.

I didn't see any of this.

yeah, maybe he is referencing something else.  i hope he is attacking ryan wallace who has been attacking him as a player and a person on 1350.  someone should beat the cac out of wallace (ryan), what a joke.
[/quote]

My goodness, why would you listen to 1350?
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on May 03, 2011, 05:41:07 PM
My goodness, why would you listen to 1350?

someone tweeted that cassidy would be on discussing kstate bball.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Scary Smart on May 03, 2011, 05:52:05 PM
Quote
Despite his limited role, Russell said his experiences at K-State were positive.

"I enjoyed my time here at K-State and in Manhattan, Kansas," he said. "I wish that it could have been better. I wish I could have been able to graduate from here, got the chance to play at the next level from here. But unfortunately, it didn't pan out that way.

"I enjoyed myself. I'll miss the town. I love Manhattan."


JFC, even the players that hate Frank and are transferring can't deny their love for MHK.

http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-05-03/k-states-russell-im-pretty-sure-im-transferring
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: theKSU on May 03, 2011, 05:57:15 PM
Sounds like God told him to leave K-State. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: PoetWarrior on May 03, 2011, 06:04:10 PM
You're killing us Frank.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: SwiftCat on May 03, 2011, 06:14:54 PM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1218255

cassidy confirms.

Dammit Frank.
Title: Nick Russell - TRANSFERRING.
Post by: scoops callahan on May 03, 2011, 07:54:20 PM
so recently (30 mins) i heard Nick Russell was transferring.. looked at his twitter and BAM - i love manhattan ks and the wildcat nation so much im sorry it had to come to this... #EMAW.. always in my heart.  :bang:
Title: Re: Nick Russell - TRANSFERRING.
Post by: OK_Cat on May 03, 2011, 07:56:56 PM
Life changing post, adunzzz.
Title: Re: Nick Russell - TRANSFERRING.
Post by: jtksu on May 03, 2011, 07:59:20 PM
MOON-  LANDED ON!!!!
Title: Re: Nick Russell - TRANSFERRING.
Post by: scoops callahan on May 03, 2011, 07:59:32 PM
thanks, i try.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Nick Russell - TRANSFERRING.
Post by: Tobias on May 03, 2011, 07:59:51 PM
thanks, adunzzz.  keep 'em coming!  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on May 03, 2011, 08:11:51 PM
Losing Nick is disappointing only in the fact that if your plan is to recruit 3-star talent its best to keep as much of that around as possible so you develop players.

That said, the "Russell is a great offensive threat" myth that somehow got started and perpetuated by K-State fans is ridiculous. All you have to do is look at a comparison of the 5 remaining guards and you see that Russell not only had the worst offensive rating off all 5, he also was the worst shooter.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=devon-peterson&p1=nick-russell&p2=will-spradling&p3=martavious-irving&p4=2-juevol-myles

On top of that he gave inconsistent effort and played poor defense. He was okay with assists and defensive rebounding, but Nick had no real great skill, especially on offense, that made him stand out from the rest nor makes me think losing him is a big deal.

If Jones comes in and even tries, he'll be a better player than Nick, though I suppose I'm a bit hopeful he'll come in with some confidence simply based on the fact that he was one of the better JUCO players in the area and got a lot of attention. Having that can go a long way IMHO, and that is something Nick never had.

I wish him well, likely at a mid major at best, but this is not some great loss. Its certainly one this team can recover from. 

Finally, I put Nick in the same category as Wally as far as this "I just want to play" junk both are playing. Frank went out of his way to give both plenty of opportunities to be one of the Top 7-8 players on this team by starting them and playing them plenty of minutes, especially early in the year. Neither one of them took advantage of that. They got much more of an opportunity than anyone else besides Pullen, Kelly, McGruder, and Samuels, so I can give them no sympathy there. Maybe if it was Irving or Myles saying that I could listen, but I can't from them.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: scoops callahan on May 03, 2011, 08:16:05 PM
Not Nick, hes transferring  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Pett on May 03, 2011, 08:18:28 PM
Quote
judge_me_now Wally Judge
Lmao 9 players have left in the last 3 years. So we all must be assholes huh lil

are people calling judge an bad person on twitter?  i hate our fans.



I can only find one tweet that would have done it... There was nothing else.

Quote
BobSpecht Bobby Specht
So...@NickRussell12 just pulled a @judge_me_now. #adios #KState

Does Bobby post here?? Prepare for some twitter hate.


Bobby actually does post here. :grin:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: pike on May 03, 2011, 08:21:15 PM
JFC 9 players....is that correct?
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 03, 2011, 08:27:08 PM
Quote
judge_me_now Wally Judge
Lmao 9 players have left in the last 3 years. So we all must be assholes huh lil

are people calling judge an bad person on twitter?  i hate our fans.



I can only find one tweet that would have done it... There was nothing else.

Quote
BobSpecht Bobby Specht
So...@NickRussell12 just pulled a @judge_me_now. #adios #KState

Does Bobby post here?? Prepare for some twitter hate.


Bobby actually does post here. :grin:

 :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Nick Russell - TRANSFERRING.
Post by: Cackle on May 03, 2011, 08:34:31 PM
 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Nick Russell - TRANSFERRING.
Post by: scoops callahan on May 03, 2011, 08:36:05 PM
:horrorsurprise:


Agreeeed :cheers:
Title: Re: Nick Russell - TRANSFERRING.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 03, 2011, 08:46:33 PM
cf0506?  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2011, 08:50:53 PM
Quote
judge_me_now Wally Judge
Lmao 9 players have left in the last 3 years. So we all must be assholes huh lil

are people calling judge an bad person on twitter?  i hate our fans.



I can only find one tweet that would have done it... There was nothing else.

Quote
BobSpecht Bobby Specht
So...@NickRussell12 just pulled a @judge_me_now. #adios #KState

Does Bobby post here?? Prepare for some twitter hate.


Bobby actually does post here. :grin:

 :shakesfist:

hi bobby
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on May 03, 2011, 10:01:58 PM
JFC 9 players....is that correct?

Meh. We've lost better players. (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=nick-russell&fred-brown=2008-2009&nick-russell=2009-2010&p1=40-ron-anderson&p2=wally-judge&p3=fred-brown)
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 04, 2011, 08:13:59 AM
Losing Nick is disappointing only in the fact that if your plan is to recruit 3-star talent its best to keep as much of that around as possible so you develop players.

That said, the "Russell is a great offensive threat" myth that somehow got started and perpetuated by K-State fans is ridiculous. All you have to do is look at a comparison of the 5 remaining guards and you see that Russell not only had the worst offensive rating off all 5, he also was the worst shooter.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=devon-peterson&p1=nick-russell&p2=will-spradling&p3=martavious-irving&p4=2-juevol-myles

On top of that he gave inconsistent effort and played poor defense. He was okay with assists and defensive rebounding, but Nick had no real great skill, especially on offense, that made him stand out from the rest nor makes me think losing him is a big deal.

If Jones comes in and even tries, he'll be a better player than Nick, though I suppose I'm a bit hopeful he'll come in with some confidence simply based on the fact that he was one of the better JUCO players in the area and got a lot of attention. Having that can go a long way IMHO, and that is something Nick never had.

I wish him well, likely at a mid major at best, but this is not some great loss. Its certainly one this team can recover from. 

Finally, I put Nick in the same category as Wally as far as this "I just want to play" junk both are playing. Frank went out of his way to give both plenty of opportunities to be one of the Top 7-8 players on this team by starting them and playing them plenty of minutes, especially early in the year. Neither one of them took advantage of that. They got much more of an opportunity than anyone else besides Pullen, Kelly, McGruder, and Samuels, so I can give them no sympathy there. Maybe if it was Irving or Myles saying that I could listen, but I can't from them.

I don't see Nick just leaving because he wasn't getting enough time. I see Nick leaving because Frank recruited more players than he had scholarships for and told Nick that he wouldn't be getting a scholly next year. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on May 04, 2011, 08:20:36 AM
I don't see Nick just leaving because he wasn't getting enough time. I see Nick leaving because Frank recruited more players than he had scholarships for and told Nick that he wouldn't be getting a scholly next year. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

I have no doubt its both, but it doesn't bother me. I'm just saying lets not pretend Nick and Wally didn't have a chance to earn whatever they wanted here, whether it be playing time or playing as a face the basket post player. I'd rather do what you can to keep them around, but at some point its probably best to go a different direction and that's what Frank does. Its all part of the buy in or quit philosophy. Like anything with a coach, if he wins consistently no one will really care. If he doesn't, it will blow up in his face.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Winters on May 04, 2011, 09:14:24 AM
Remember when nick went off against iowa st. last year in Hilton? Glad to say I was there nick, I was there.  :cry:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kstate4life on May 04, 2011, 10:12:43 AM
Went off? Didn't he score like 13 points?
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 04, 2011, 10:20:50 AM
This has been a fact for so long doesn't even feel like he was here.  Except his TO against Wisky.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: unleashthemob on May 04, 2011, 10:25:11 AM
13 points is going off for Nick!
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kstate4life on May 04, 2011, 10:30:06 AM
13 points is going off for Nick!

exactly why kstate is better off without him
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: KITNfury on May 04, 2011, 10:53:40 AM
Remember when Colon went off for something like 9 points against So. Miss.? That was awesome.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Fuktard on May 04, 2011, 10:54:37 AM
This has been a fact for so long doesn't even feel like he was here.  Except his TO's against Wisky.

fyp
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 04, 2011, 11:02:17 AM
Remember when Colon went off for something like 9 points against So. Miss.? That was awesome.

lol

Lu >>>>> Nick
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: O-town Kat on May 04, 2011, 11:04:49 AM
God I can still replay that lost possession vs Wiscy in my head
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Winters on May 04, 2011, 11:48:59 AM
13 points is going off for Nick!

exactly why kstate is better off without him
He won us that game though.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kstate4life on May 04, 2011, 11:51:28 AM
13 points is going off for Nick!

exactly why kstate is better off without him
He won us that game though.

same argument could be made for anyone who scored more than one point that game
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 04, 2011, 12:15:39 PM
Remember when Colon went off for something like 9 points against So. Miss.? That was awesome.

I remember he scored like 22 in Kansas City two years ago.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on May 04, 2011, 12:18:27 PM
Remember when Colon went off for something like 9 points against So. Miss.? That was awesome.

I remember he scored like 22 in Kansas City two years ago.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=283462306
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 04, 2011, 12:21:02 PM
Remember when Colon went off for something like 9 points against So. Miss.? That was awesome.

I remember he scored like 22 in Kansas City two years ago.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=283462306

Next year I'll say he scored 26 in that game, so there's that.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on May 04, 2011, 02:05:17 PM
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Another day another transfer. (Breaking) Juevol Myles will transfer from K-State: http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1218603
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: OK_Cat on May 04, 2011, 02:06:34 PM
already used "sickness in the family" for freddy, didn't we?   :ck:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2011, 02:07:26 PM
sorry canada.  you were a stand up d00d.  
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: EllToPay on May 04, 2011, 02:09:07 PM
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Another day another transfer. (Breaking) Juevol Myles will transfer from K-State: http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1218603

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: wetwillie on May 04, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
Canada really grew on me during the season, I'm a little pissed at Frank for basically ruining any chance he had at a D1 Career but i'll be over it in a week.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2011, 02:12:50 PM
Canada really grew on me during the season, I'm a little pissed at Frank for basically ruining any chance he had at a D1 Career but i'll be over it in a week.

It was by far the best thing for ksu cats hoops (after we had confirmed two had to go) but you have to feel bad for the maple leaf
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 04, 2011, 02:14:01 PM
Yeah, that sucks.  I guess I felt about Myles the way most of you retards felt about Nick. 

Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on May 04, 2011, 02:17:25 PM
Continual attrition is not ideal given our recruiting, but I've pretty much accepted that this is part of Frank. It will be find as long as he wins. If we are going to have attrition, Nick and Canada are acceptable losses.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: fr@ck me on May 04, 2011, 02:23:13 PM
Continual attrition is not ideal given our recruiting, but I've pretty much accepted that this is part of Frank. It will be find as long as he wins. If we are going to have attrition, Nick and Canada are acceptable losses.

seems kind of weird how he talks about needing to have guys in the system 4 years to have success... to have the guys who have been there show the new kids what to do... especially since we are always replacing 5 or 6 guys each year do to graduation/transfers.  Will we ever get what frank wants if we keep losing transfers  :dunno:  :ohno:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 04, 2011, 02:25:14 PM
"...we're a young team.  A third of our guys weren't playing for our team last season..."

Leaving the door open.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Cackle on May 04, 2011, 02:27:28 PM
 :cry: Canada...
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on May 04, 2011, 02:27:50 PM
"...we're a young team.  A third Half of our guys weren't playing for our team last season..."

Leaving the door open.

Yeah, but fyp.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: catzacker on May 04, 2011, 02:34:33 PM
Continual attrition is not ideal given our recruiting, but I've pretty much accepted that this is part of Frank. It will be find as long as he wins. If we are going to have attrition, Nick and Canada are acceptable losses.

it's unsustainable.  nick and canada, by themselves are fine, but not when the other brave souls that have gone before them are taken into consideration , regardless of their abilities or lack thereof.  
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2011, 02:35:10 PM
Is Myles on campus?  THought he was suppose to be there after the 4th, but don't remember ever officially hearing of his arrival.

yeah, he is

Somebody find out if he sucks or not.   :cheers:

Hey, michigancat here.  I can confirm that he sucks.

Thanks.

 :cry:

I'm still holding out hope that he's better than past transfers i.e. Taybron and Maybank. I'm expecting him to be a Jeremy Pargo type.


Take Taybron, give him 3 years of eligibility, and you've got Myles (if we're lucky).

We weren't lucky. :frown:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2011, 02:36:14 PM
Hey Watson and Irving-welcome to you, next year
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2011, 02:36:38 PM
Continual attrition is not ideal given our recruiting, but I've pretty much accepted that this is part of Frank. It will be find as long as he wins. If we are going to have attrition, Nick and Canada are acceptable losses.

it's unsustainable.  nick and canada, by themselves are fine, but not when the other brave souls that have gone before them are taken into consideration , regardless of their abilities or lack thereof.  

Exactly. I had a really great post on this a while back that I don't feel like digging up. I hate dumbshits who are all, "he wasn't the best player, so no big deal." That's just stupid.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kso_FAN on May 04, 2011, 02:38:41 PM
Continual attrition is not ideal given our recruiting, but I've pretty much accepted that this is part of Frank. It will be find as long as he wins. If we are going to have attrition, Nick and Canada are acceptable losses.

it's unsustainable.  nick and canada, by themselves are fine, but not when the other brave souls that have gone before them are taken into consideration , regardless of their abilities or lack thereof.  

Exactly. I had a really great post on this a while back that I don't feel like digging up. I hate dumbcraps who are all, "he wasn't the best player, so no big deal." That's just stupid.

I've been on the continuity with 3 stars bandwagon for a long time. I was just saying we knew 2 were leaving, and to find out its Russell and Myles and not someone like McGruder or Samuels is nice. To a point.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on May 04, 2011, 02:42:49 PM
canada scoop.  if not myles, then who?   :ohno:


http://newsdurhamregion.com/sports/article/176236


Quote
With super stardom on his mind and the passion to lead instilled in his heart, Ajax native Juevol Myles believes he can play a prominent role with the Kansas State Wildcats next season.

Quote
"I'm very excited, this year in my eyes (individually) was a disappointment, but I always look at it like I could have still been in junior college," he said. "Now I know what to expect, and what I need to show coach Frank and the rest of the staff so I can help this team move forward in the future."

Quote
"There should be a lot (minutes) available next year. Every big school recruits all positions so I think there is a guard coming in, but that doesn't bother me because now I know what to do, and what I need to do in practice, the weight room and with my conditioning so I'm ready and can prove to coach Martin and the rest of the coaching staff that I'm ready to lead this team."

Either he is staying or about to be violently blindsided

completely mumped a good human over.  for james rough ridin' watson, a marginal high-major juco with widely referenced character issues (whatever the eff that means).  what pieces of crap the kstate staff are.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: OK_Cat on May 04, 2011, 02:47:36 PM
the best part of frank martin off season bball bbs'ing are all the people who act upset about these things.  it's always going to happen, just embrace it.

like _fan said, at least it's not mcgruder or samuels.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on May 04, 2011, 02:53:12 PM
the best part of frank martin off season bball bbs'ing are all the people who act upset about these things.  it's always going to happen, just embrace it.

that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), even for you.  just because you don't have the ability to change something doesn't mean it is ethical, logical or useful to embrace it.


poklahomacat1939 - "the best part of hitler post-invasion atrocity bbs'ing are all the people who act upset about these things.  it's always going to happen, just embrace it."
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 04, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
canada scoop.  if not myles, then who?   :ohno:


http://newsdurhamregion.com/sports/article/176236


Quote
With super stardom on his mind and the passion to lead instilled in his heart, Ajax native Juevol Myles believes he can play a prominent role with the Kansas State Wildcats next season.

Quote
"I'm very excited, this year in my eyes (individually) was a disappointment, but I always look at it like I could have still been in junior college," he said. "Now I know what to expect, and what I need to show coach Frank and the rest of the staff so I can help this team move forward in the future."

Quote
"There should be a lot (minutes) available next year. Every big school recruits all positions so I think there is a guard coming in, but that doesn't bother me because now I know what to do, and what I need to do in practice, the weight room and with my conditioning so I'm ready and can prove to coach Martin and the rest of the coaching staff that I'm ready to lead this team."

Either he is staying or about to be violently blindsided

completely mumped a good human over.  for james rough ridin' watson, a marginal high-major juco with widely referenced character issues (whatever the eff that means).  what pieces of crap the kstate staff are.

Agreed. If Frank doesn't like the players he has, he shouldn't have recruited them in the first place.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: OK_Cat on May 04, 2011, 02:57:49 PM
the best part of frank martin off season bball bbs'ing are all the people who act upset about these things.  it's always going to happen, just embrace it.

that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), even for you.  just because you don't have the ability to change something doesn't mean it is ethical, logical or useful to embrace it.


poklahomacat1939 - "the best part of hitler post-invasion atrocity bbs'ing are all the people who act upset about these things.  it's always going to happen, just embrace it."

lol at comparing a couple of bench/role players getting the boot to hitler killing jews.  saul is gonna be pissed.

would you rather nick and canada stick around a few more years and "maybe" get better (but probably still suck), or take the chance on 2 new guys?  If they suck, then you can make a thread about how pissed you are that they're getting kicked out next year.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2011, 02:59:22 PM
canada scoop.  if not myles, then who?   :ohno:


http://newsdurhamregion.com/sports/article/176236


Quote
With super stardom on his mind and the passion to lead instilled in his heart, Ajax native Juevol Myles believes he can play a prominent role with the Kansas State Wildcats next season.

Quote
"I'm very excited, this year in my eyes (individually) was a disappointment, but I always look at it like I could have still been in junior college," he said. "Now I know what to expect, and what I need to show coach Frank and the rest of the staff so I can help this team move forward in the future."

Quote
"There should be a lot (minutes) available next year. Every big school recruits all positions so I think there is a guard coming in, but that doesn't bother me because now I know what to do, and what I need to do in practice, the weight room and with my conditioning so I'm ready and can prove to coach Martin and the rest of the coaching staff that I'm ready to lead this team."

Either he is staying or about to be violently blindsided

completely mumped a good human over.  for james rough ridin' watson, a marginal high-major juco with widely referenced character issues (whatever the eff that means).  what pieces of crap the kstate staff are.

Agreed. If Frank doesn't like the players he has, he shouldn't have recruited them in the first place.

IIRC, lots of folks here said we shouldn't have recruited Myles long before he committed. Frank should consult us before he pulls this crap.

would you rather nick and canada stick around a few more years and "maybe" get better (but probably still suck), or take the chance on 2 new guys?  If they suck, then you can make a thread about how pissed you are that they're getting kicked out next year.

I'd rather them stay and maybe get better but probably still suck. I KNOW Watson and Jones will suck. Not sure on Russell. Pretty sure Myles would continually suck.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 04, 2011, 03:02:43 PM
Starting to not buy the "Buy in or quit" philosophy. 

Should be revised to "Get better or quit".

Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on May 04, 2011, 03:03:53 PM
lol at comparing a couple of bench/role players getting the boot to hitler killing jews.  saul is gonna be pissed.

would you rather nick and canada stick around a few more years and "maybe" get better (but probably still suck), or take the chance on 2 new guys?  If they suck, then you can make a thread about how pissed you are that they're getting kicked out next year.

lol @ you for not accepting the similarities.  martin should never have recruited myles, because as soon as he did, it was obvious and inevitable that he would eff him out of any chance of having a productive, stable d1 career.  hitler should never have invaded poland.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 04, 2011, 03:04:31 PM
Starting to not buy the "Buy in or quit" philosophy. 

Should be revised to "Get better or quit".



Maybe "Quit or I'll kick your ass off the team for some juco scrub."
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 04, 2011, 03:05:41 PM
I wouldn't mind this at all, but the perception from outside isn't the best.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: OK_Cat on May 04, 2011, 03:16:48 PM
I wouldn't mind this at all, but the perception from outside isn't the best.

nobody outside of goEMAW.com and gopowercat.com cares, or even knows.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: jtksu on May 04, 2011, 03:17:39 PM
Gotta assume this can't be good for recruiting.  "Sure, we'll give you a scholarship but there's a realg good chance I'm going to kick your ass off the team in a year or two."
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2011, 03:18:43 PM
I wouldn't mind this at all, but the perception from outside isn't the best.

nobody outside of goEMAW.com and gopowercat.com cares, or even knows.

other coaches know.

But if Frank can somehow convince folks he only runs of shitty players, maybe other coaches could cockblock frank out of shitty players. Kind of an odd way to get to the end result, but I think I'd take it.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 04, 2011, 03:43:10 PM
I wouldn't mind this at all, but the perception from outside isn't the best.

nobody outside of goEMAW.com and gopowercat.com cares, or even knows.

other coaches know.

But if Frank can somehow convince folks he only runs of shitty players, maybe other coaches could cockblock frank out of shitty players. Kind of an odd way to get to the end result, but I think I'd take it.

Yeah, but when it's not just shitty players that leave, the other coaches will use that information, too. Dominique Sutton doesn't help Frank, and Frank had better hope that Wally doesn't have success at Rutgers or wherever he ends up.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 04, 2011, 03:45:36 PM
I wouldn't mind this at all, but the perception from outside isn't the best.

nobody outside of goEMAW.com and gopowercat.com cares, or even knows.

other coaches know.

But if Frank can somehow convince folks he only runs of shitty players, maybe other coaches could cockblock frank out of shitty players. Kind of an odd way to get to the end result, but I think I'd take it.

Yeah, but when it's not just shitty players that leave, the other coaches will use that information, too. Dominique Sutton doesn't help Frank, and Frank had better hope that Wally doesn't have success at Rutgers or wherever he ends up.

The first player that actually accomplishes anything after transferring from KSU will be the player that brings all this down.

Wally is our only threat of this happening. 
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: sys on May 04, 2011, 03:52:48 PM
russell will be more successful than judge, post kstate.  between his two schools, judge should pick maryland.  i don't think he'll get off the bench at rutgers.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: slucat on May 04, 2011, 04:18:28 PM
Starting to not buy the "Buy in or quit" philosophy. 

Should be revised to "Get better or quit".



Maybe "Quit or I'll kick your ass off the team for some juco scrub."

Unfortunatley this.
I really kind of find this pretty shitty of Frank and Co.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 04, 2011, 04:20:48 PM
Quote
TheDailyGemini Gemini
by Jam32Sam
If geminis feel like their time is being wasted, they quickly remove themselves from those situations and people.

Must have a whole lot of Geminis on our team.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: kougar24 on May 04, 2011, 04:23:06 PM
I wouldn't mind this at all, but the perception from outside isn't the best.

nobody outside of goEMAW.com and gopowercat.com cares, or even knows.

other coaches know.

But if Frank can somehow convince folks he only runs of crapty players, maybe other coaches could crockblock frank out of crapty players. Kind of an odd way to get to the end result, but I think I'd take it.

Good point. If we can get other coaches at crappy schools to say "Hey kid, you aren't good enough for K-State, so you'll just be forced out after two years anyway, so come here instead!" it would be a pretty solid silver lining.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: pissclams on May 04, 2011, 05:10:05 PM
i'm 100% confident that frank would only start/play 1-2 players some nights if he thought he could do it w/o getting fired.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: CNS on May 04, 2011, 05:30:54 PM
i'm 100% confident that frank would only start/play 1-2 players some nights if he thought he could do it w/o getting fired.

Imagine how bad those 1-2 guys would get yelled at for allowing open shots on the continuous 5 on 2 break.

 :frank:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: ChEtah on May 04, 2011, 07:31:16 PM
i'm 100% confident that frank would only start/play 1-2 players some nights if he thought he could do it w/o getting fired.

Imagine how bad those 1-2 guys would get yelled at for allowing open shots on the continuous 5 on 2 break.

 :frank:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 04, 2011, 09:56:42 PM
<- was excited for Frank to leave for Miami.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: SwiftCat on May 04, 2011, 10:15:12 PM
Feel  bad for Canada. That was really shitty to recruit him last year.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on May 05, 2011, 07:06:24 AM
Feel  bad for Canada. That was really shitty to recruit him last year.

It's, like, I didn't feel bad for Andre Gilbert for some reason though.  Maybe I'm becoming soft.  Or maybe I found Canada more adorable and Andre less a funny guy.  idon'tknow.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: EllToPay on May 05, 2011, 07:10:33 AM
Feel  bad for Canada. That was really shitty to recruit him last year.

It's, like, I didn't feel bad for Andre Gilbert for some reason though.  Maybe I'm becoming soft.  Or maybe I found Canada more adorable and Andre less a funny guy.  idon'tknow.

He took some of the adorableness out of the Walker, Beasley, Pullen after practice video. Have hated him ever since.
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: steve dave on May 05, 2011, 07:18:20 AM
Feel  bad for Canada. That was really shitty to recruit him last year.

It's, like, I didn't feel bad for Andre Gilbert for some reason though.  Maybe I'm becoming soft.  Or maybe I found Canada more adorable and Andre less a funny guy.  idon'tknow.

He took some of the adorableness out of the Walker, Beasley, Pullen after practice video. Have hated him ever since.

everyone is the best at something
Title: Re: Who will win this summer's Frank Martin Change Your School Sweepstakes
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 08, 2011, 05:04:43 PM
Juevol a Coyote now.

Last but certainly not least in the hearts of EMAW everywhere.

http://www.usdcoyotes.com/sports/mbball/bio.asp?PLAYER_ID=3448