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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: steve dave on March 01, 2011, 07:41:47 AM
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http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/sports/jacks_smack/jacks-smack-theres-no-reason-to-wait-to-announce-the-big-12-coach-of-the-year-award
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ruh roh. better get the prep H out.
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http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/sports/jacks_smack/jacks-smack-theres-no-reason-to-wait-to-announce-the-big-12-coach-of-the-year-award
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Jack Harry :emawkid:
I know a certain fanbase that is not going to like this though. At All
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Jack Harry :emawkid:
I know a certain fanbase that is not going to like this though. At All
Ratings. He's like Whitlock, say whatever will piss off the most people.
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Jack Harry :emawkid:
I know a certain fanbase that is not going to like this though. At All
Ratings. He's like Whitlock, say whatever will piss off the most people.
Bullshit, Jack :love: Frank. He thinks they were both in the battle of An Lao in Vietnam or something...
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Jack Harry :emawkid:
I know a certain fanbase that is not going to like this though. At All
Ratings. He's like Whitlock, say whatever will piss off the most people.
Squawk
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Sweeps week.
'grats Jack.
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thr part about discrediting ku's success is totally true.
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Jack Harry :emawkid:
I know a certain fanbase that is not going to like this though. At All
Ratings. He's like Whitlock, say whatever will piss off the most people.
Squawk
I just don't trust the media types. They're all self serving bastards.
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Jack is using that more as a Mike needs to get his crap together jab, than what it seems to be.
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It also means this: Frank Martin deserves Big 12 Coach of the Year consideration. No, the Wildcats won't win the Big 12 like they were supposed to win it; they dug a hole too deep. But one way to prove your worth as a coach is to overcome adversity and turn a bad season good midflight, and Martin has spent the past month doing exactly that -- Monday's win at Texas serving as just the most recent example.
http://gary-parrish.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6271764/27705428
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
:confused:
Jay Bilas tells you to STFU.
JayBilas Jay Bilas
Not a fan of "exceed expectations" criterion for COY. Just means our expectations were out of whack, doesn't it? We don't do that for POY.
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Jack Harry :emawkid:
I know a certain fanbase that is not going to like this though. At All
TO THE PHOG! :cheese:
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
:confused:
Jay Bilas tells you to STFU.
JayBilas Jay Bilas
Not a fan of "exceed expectations" criterion for COY. Just means our expectations were out of whack, doesn't it? We don't do that for POY.
Bilas is talking about exceeding expectations. Frank Martin and K-State definitely haven't exceeded expectations this season.
:flush:
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I'm kind or partial to giving coach of the year to Tad Boyle. I know, I know I'm not supposed to admit that after he made us all :chainsaw: but still what he has done is impressive. Give credit where credit is due
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
:confused:
Jay Bilas tells you to STFU.
JayBilas Jay Bilas
Not a fan of "exceed expectations" criterion for COY. Just means our expectations were out of whack, doesn't it? We don't do that for POY.
Bilas is talking about exceeding expectations. Frank Martin and K-State definitely haven't exceeded expectations this season.
:flush:
who should win it, and why?
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I think HCBS deserves it just as much as anyone else. Think about everything KU has gone through this season: injuries to Releford, Robinson, and Selby; suspensions to Selby, Little, and Taylor; and then of course the night of Jan 21, and the trip to Washington DC to Lisa Robinson's funeral. This KU team has faced a lot of adversity, yet it doesn't even show in the win-loss record. I think many of us take for granted that part of Self's job and responsibilities, but he deserves a lot of credit for keeping everyone on the same page.
:lol:
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
:confused:
Jay Bilas tells you to STFU.
JayBilas Jay Bilas
Not a fan of "exceed expectations" criterion for COY. Just means our expectations were out of whack, doesn't it? We don't do that for POY.
Bilas is talking about exceeding expectations. Frank Martin and K-State definitely haven't exceeded expectations this season.
:flush:
who should win it, and why?
If KU wins the outright Big 12 title, I'd give it to Bill Self. His team was picked to finish 2nd in the Big 12 this season after losing two NBA lottery picks and an All-American point guard, yet KU is sitting at 27-2 and in position to win a seventh straight conference title. You could also make a strong case for Tad Boyle at Colorado, especially if they finish 9-7 and earn a 1st round bye in the Big 12 tournament.
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
:confused:
Jay Bilas tells you to STFU.
JayBilas Jay Bilas
Not a fan of "exceed expectations" criterion for COY. Just means our expectations were out of whack, doesn't it? We don't do that for POY.
Bilas is talking about exceeding expectations. Frank Martin and K-State definitely haven't exceeded expectations this season.
:flush:
who should win it, and why?
If KU wins the outright Big 12 title, I'd give it to Bill Self. His team was picked to finish 2nd in the Big 12 this season after losing two NBA lottery picks and an All-American point guard, yet KU is sitting at 27-2 and in position to win a seventh straight conference title. You could also make a strong case for Tad Boyle at Colorado, especially if they finish 9-7 and earn a 1st round bye in the Big 12 tournament.
you should probably change your talking point and want Frank to win the big12 COY award so he'll move on from KSU and quit kicking Bill's ass all the time.
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
:confused:
Jay Bilas tells you to STFU.
JayBilas Jay Bilas
Not a fan of "exceed expectations" criterion for COY. Just means our expectations were out of whack, doesn't it? We don't do that for POY.
Bilas is talking about exceeding expectations. Frank Martin and K-State definitely haven't exceeded expectations this season.
:flush:
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Good to have you back beems. Seeking validation again. Order restored.
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Yup - feels good to have Beems back!
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
:confused:
Jay Bilas tells you to STFU.
JayBilas Jay Bilas
Not a fan of "exceed expectations" criterion for COY. Just means our expectations were out of whack, doesn't it? We don't do that for POY.
Bilas is talking about exceeding expectations. Frank Martin and K-State definitely haven't exceeded expectations this season.
:flush:
who should win it, and why?
If KU wins the outright Big 12 title, I'd give it to Bill Self. His team was picked to finish 2nd in the Big 12 this season after losing two NBA lottery picks and an All-American point guard, yet KU is sitting at 27-2 and in position to win a seventh straight conference title. You could also make a strong case for Tad Boyle at Colorado, especially if they finish 9-7 and earn a 1st round bye in the Big 12 tournament.
Yeah but, according to most UK fans, this years team is better without those two NBA lottery picks and an All-American point guard, so you guys should have been picked to win it outright from the beginning. :dunno:
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
:confused:
Jay Bilas tells you to STFU.
JayBilas Jay Bilas
Not a fan of "exceed expectations" criterion for COY. Just means our expectations were out of whack, doesn't it? We don't do that for POY.
Bilas is talking about exceeding expectations. Frank Martin and K-State definitely haven't exceeded expectations this season.
:flush:
who should win it, and why?
If KU wins the outright Big 12 title, I'd give it to Bill Self. His team was picked to finish 2nd in the Big 12 this season after losing two NBA lottery picks and an All-American point guard, yet KU is sitting at 27-2 and in position to win a seventh straight conference title. You could also make a strong case for Tad Boyle at Colorado, especially if they finish 9-7 and earn a 1st round bye in the Big 12 tournament.
hmm...sounds like your picks EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS, which is what Bilas is talking about. Are you fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
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Two in a row for Frank now. How many before they name the award after him? Or will they call it the Frank Martin Big 12 Coach of the Year Award starting next year?
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Two in a row for Frank now. How many before they name the award after him? Or will they call it the Frank Martin Big 12 Coach of the Year Award starting next year?
They will probably wait until after next year when he wins it again without his All American point guard and best big man. Then again, the Kats will be better next year without those 2 and Frank will have to do something more awesome to exceed expectations.
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
:confused:
Jay Bilas tells you to STFU.
JayBilas Jay Bilas
Not a fan of "exceed expectations" criterion for COY. Just means our expectations were out of whack, doesn't it? We don't do that for POY.
Bilas is talking about exceeding expectations. Frank Martin and K-State definitely haven't exceeded expectations this season.
:flush:
who should win it, and why?
If KU wins the outright Big 12 title, I'd give it to Bill Self. His team was picked to finish 2nd in the Big 12 this season after losing two NBA lottery picks and an All-American point guard, yet KU is sitting at 27-2 and in position to win a seventh straight conference title. You could also make a strong case for Tad Boyle at Colorado, especially if they finish 9-7 and earn a 1st round bye in the Big 12 tournament.
you should probably change your talking point and want Frank to win the big12 COY award so he'll move on from KSU and quit kicking Bill's ass all the time.
Meh. I actually enjoy having Frank at K-State. He's only got two wins against KU, FWIW.
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
:confused:
Jay Bilas tells you to STFU.
JayBilas Jay Bilas
Not a fan of "exceed expectations" criterion for COY. Just means our expectations were out of whack, doesn't it? We don't do that for POY.
Bilas is talking about exceeding expectations. Frank Martin and K-State definitely haven't exceeded expectations this season.
:flush:
who should win it, and why?
If KU wins the outright Big 12 title, I'd give it to Bill Self. His team was picked to finish 2nd in the Big 12 this season after losing two NBA lottery picks and an All-American point guard, yet KU is sitting at 27-2 and in position to win a seventh straight conference title. You could also make a strong case for Tad Boyle at Colorado, especially if they finish 9-7 and earn a 1st round bye in the Big 12 tournament.
Yeah but, according to most UK fans, this years team is better without those two NBA lottery picks and an All-American point guard, so you guys should have been picked to win it outright from the beginning. :dunno:
Doesn't it say something about the coaching staff when a team loses three starters (two NBA lottery picks) and gets better?
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They should rename the award to Recruiter of the Year. Does anyone actually think these coaches really do that much coaching?
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They should rename the award to Recruiter of the Year. Does anyone actually think these coaches really do that much coaching?
[/raises hand]
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Wasn't K-State picked to finish 1st in the Big 12 this season?
:confused:
Jay Bilas tells you to STFU.
JayBilas Jay Bilas
Not a fan of "exceed expectations" criterion for COY. Just means our expectations were out of whack, doesn't it? We don't do that for POY.
Bilas is talking about exceeding expectations. Frank Martin and K-State definitely haven't exceeded expectations this season.
:flush:
who should win it, and why?
If KU wins the outright Big 12 title, I'd give it to Bill Self. His team was picked to finish 2nd in the Big 12 this season after losing two NBA lottery picks and an All-American point guard, yet KU is sitting at 27-2 and in position to win a seventh straight conference title. You could also make a strong case for Tad Boyle at Colorado, especially if they finish 9-7 and earn a 1st round bye in the Big 12 tournament.
Yeah but, according to most UK fans, this years team is better without those two NBA lottery picks and an All-American point guard, so you guys should have been picked to win it outright from the beginning. :dunno:
Doesn't it say something about the coaching staff when a team loses three starters (two NBA lottery picks) and gets better?
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Yes I do, but I also think people that think they are better this year than last year's number 1 overall seed probably have trouble tying their shoes.
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They should rename the award to Recruiter of the Year. Does anyone actually think these coaches really do that much coaching?
Did you see the Morris twins as freshmen?
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I think it's Self. He is saddled with one of the dirtiest/thug laden rosters in conference history and is still winning some games. Granted, they lose to good teams but ku feasts on the also-rans. Pretty tough to win those games night in and night out with such character issues.
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They should rename the award to Recruiter of the Year. Does anyone actually think these coaches really do that much coaching?
Did you see the Morris twins as freshmen?
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ya, they were highly rated kids who everyone in the world projected to be NBA lottery picks someday. wow, great job on not letting them eff themselves up no matter how many times they've tried to trip over their own two feet.
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They should rename the award to Recruiter of the Year. Does anyone actually think these coaches really do that much coaching?
Did you see the Morris twins as freshmen?
:confused:
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2011/feb/27/names-change-kansas-doesnt/?mens_basketball (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2011/feb/27/names-change-kansas-doesnt/?mens_basketball)
At Saturday’s end, the Jayhawks had an 82-70 victory, a 27-2 record and a two-year record of 60-5. How in the world have they done that with constantly changing player availability?
Marcus Morris, the team’s best player and therefore the last guy who has to worry about buttering up the coach, fielded the question and then did what he always does. He spoke from the heart. He’s as honest an interview as you’ll find in today’s careful world.
“It’s got to be the coaches,” Morris said. “We had three NBA players leave us last year, and nobody really gave us much of a chance. Kansas State was No. 1 in the conference because of all our (personnel) losses.”
That’s the way the Big 12 coaches saw it, ranking the Wildcats No. 1 in the preseason poll. K-State’s playing much better now and still has a chance to finish fourth. Kansas moved into a tie with Texas for first in the Big 12 with two games remaining.
“It all comes down to coaching,” Marcus continued. “Coach Self is just a great coach. The coaching staff is one in a million to me. Having D. (Danny) Manning coaching us every practice, giving you insight on what move you should make and what move you should get to, you definitely have to cherish that because it isn’t going to happen all the time.”
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Not following your point Beems. Is it that we should only let big retards vote for B12 COTY :dunno:
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As much as I hate saying this, what about the Turd?
He barely has a guy on his team that can dribble, yet they've got 3rd place pretty much locked up.
God I rough ridin' hate that cocksucker though. Whines like Jim Boeheim.
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Boyle
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As much as I hate saying this, what about the Turd?
He barely has a guy on his team that can dribble, yet they've got 3rd place pretty much locked up.
God I rough ridin' hate that cocksucker though. Whines like Jim Boeheim.
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Boyle
Def think he is one of a few that could have a case made.
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Boyle
Def think he is one of a few that could have a case made.
Its not like any other coach can claim a sweep against one of the Top 4 teams in the league. Well, one has wins over the top 2 teams, but that's different.
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Boyle
Def think he is one of a few that could have a case made.
Its not like any other coach can claim a sweep against one of the Top 4 teams in the league. Well, one has wins over the top 2 teams, but that's different.
No other program can claim seven straight Big 12 titles, either.
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The "soren petro" method of awarding the COY is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and lazy method.
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Now that Frank is back to back Big 12 COY do you think he will want more money?
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Seriously, though... why does anyone think Frank Martin deserves Big 12 COTY? Is it because he did a terrible job of coaching the team earlier in the season, and now they're finally playing up to their potential?
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Wow, just realized we will have the confy COY & POY :surprised:
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Can someone please add "A phog.net talking point" to Beems handle?
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Can someone please add "A phog.net talking point" to Beems handle?
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Can someone please add "A phog.net talking point" to Beems handle?
Pffffftttttt... I've been defending K-State/Pullen/Frank on phog.net over the past week and a half. I just don't think Frank deserves Big 12 COTY. K-State was predicted to win the conference this year, and they're sitting at 9-6 and in a tie for 4th place.
:dunno:
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When do the goEMAW awards come out? Before or after the B12 tourney?
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Seriously, though... why does anyone think Frank Martin deserves Big 12 COTY? Is it because he did a terrible job of coaching the team earlier in the season, and now they're finally playing up to their potential?
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why does self deserve it? because the media screwed up in the preseason and thought that k-state was better than ku? good reason!
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The media gets their preseason predictions wrong therefore you can't win COY. You simply can't argue against absolute stupidity, but that's what you get by the ton from Tardville.
Oh and Beems my spot on point about you being nothing but a tardville talking point has nothing to do with you're so called "defense" of Frank in Tardville. You have absolutely no original thoughts.
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Boyle
Def think he is one of a few that could have a case made.
Its not like any other coach can claim a sweep against one of the Top 4 teams in the league. Well, one has wins over the top 2 teams, but that's different.
No other program can claim seven straight Big 12 titles, either.
Most programs don't give themselves a title when they get second place, either.
That and its "COY" not "COL7Ys"
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Unbelievable run the Cats are on right now. Defending B12 Champs, back to back COY awards, POY this year, sweeping TX, crushing KU in the FB and BB series, the amazing conf tourney bye streak living on after goEMAW friend Doc Sadler crushes Missouri....
And on and on. Drink it in boys.
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Has there been a program that has had as much elite level success in such a short period as K-State right now? I don't know of one.
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I just don't think Frank deserves Big 12 COTY. K-State was predicted to win the conference this year, and they're sitting at 9-6 and in a tie for 4th place.
:dunno:
Expect-rough ridin'-Tations. Jesus titty christ.
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Not only have we experienced this elite success, but we look and act incredibly adorable doing it.
:love:
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Not only have we experienced this elite success, but we look and act incredibly adorable doing it.
:love:
class :love:
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Unbelievable run the Cats are on right now. Defending B12 Champs, back to back COY awards, POY this year, sweeping TX, crushing KU in the FB and BB series, the amazing conf tourney bye streak living on after goEMAW friend Doc Sadler crushes Missouri....
And on and on. Drink it in boys.
Add in 'card-carrying premium member of the E19' and I think we're all good here.
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When do the goEMAW awards come out? Before or after the B12 tourney?
Last year's were after the NCAA tourney. :dunno:
I can tell you that I know the rumblings I've heard from comittee members are that the Cats are looking good in the POY, COY and conference champs races.
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4th place finish = dissapointing season.
Please make sure to take all of your personal belongings, we've arrived.
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The media gets their preseason predictions wrong therefore you can't win COY. You simply can't argue against absolute stupidity, but that's what you get by the ton from Tardville.
Oh and Beems my spot on point about you being nothing but a tardville talking point has nothing to do with you're so called "defense" of Frank in Tardville. You have absolutely no original thoughts.
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no original thoughts
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This will be the first time in conference history that a coach has won back to back big 12 COY awards :surprised:
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I still think Self. Finishing second in the midst of the worst collegiate AD scandal in decades, the FBI and Feds all over Lawrence, Lew lining his pockets and laughing in ku's face, the worst football program in the conference, horrible in all other sports and with a team rife with character issues....?
He was able to tune it out and coach the team up for all but a few of the biggest games.
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Seff is going to win it . . . just :lol: at the "he didn''t meet preseason media expectations therefore he can't be COY" idiocy.
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no original thoughts
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no original thoughts
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dude.
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I'm all for giving little bro COY & POY. The dobermans are going to be too busy going balls deep in the big dance to give two cacs about it. :excited:
THE 2011 FRANK MARTIN BIG XII COY - bill seff
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The Big 12 coach of the year award is now called "The Frankie"
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no original thoughts
I love how he gets all his posting ideas from others here.
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The Big 12 coach of the year award is now called "The Frankie"
Big 12 co-coach of the year is now called "The Lil Frankie"
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The media gets their preseason predictions wrong therefore you can't win COY. You simply can't argue against absolute stupidity, but that's what you get by the ton from Tardville.
Coaches got it wrong, too.
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The media gets their preseason predictions wrong therefore you can't win COY. You simply can't argue against absolute stupidity, but that's what you get by the ton from Tardville.
Coaches got it wrong, too.
Frank didn't.
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The media gets their preseason predictions wrong therefore you can't win COY. You simply can't argue against absolute stupidity, but that's what you get by the ton from Tardville.
Coaches got it wrong, too.
Frank didn't.
Cuz he couldn't or cuz he didn't want to? We'll never know.
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Delusion factor: High (and rising)
:love:
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The media gets their preseason predictions wrong therefore you can't win COY. You simply can't argue against absolute stupidity, but that's what you get by the ton from Tardville.
Coaches got it wrong, too.
Frank didn't.
Cuz he couldn't or cuz he didn't want to? We'll never know.
:ck:
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The media gets their preseason predictions wrong therefore you can't win COY. You simply can't argue against absolute stupidity, but that's what you get by the ton from Tardville.
Coaches got it wrong, too.
Frank didn't.
that eliminates 10 of the 12 from coy, head to head btwn martin and myscoach should settle it.
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The media gets their preseason predictions wrong therefore you can't win COY. You simply can't argue against absolute stupidity, but that's what you get by the ton from Tardville.
Coaches got it wrong, too.
Frank didn't.
that eliminates 10 of the 12 from coy, head to head btwn martin and myscoach should settle it.
Seems like the only fair way.
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The media gets their preseason predictions wrong therefore you can't win COY. You simply can't argue against absolute stupidity, but that's what you get by the ton from Tardville.
Coaches got it wrong, too.
Frank didn't.
that eliminates 10 of the 12 from coy, head to head btwn martin and myscoach should settle it.
Turgeon was the other coach that picked KU to win the Big 12.
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Turgeon was the other coach that picked KU to win the Big 12.
sadler said he did. only fair way to determine the liar is head to head.
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No coaches have impressed really, give it to Tad Boyle.
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Bill Self is a hell of a coach... give him the Frankie. eff that school/fanbase though, spose KU has to have one decent person on their payroll.
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Katz picks Frank
• If Kansas State continues on its current pace and finishes in third place in the Big 12, why shouldn't Frank Martin be coach of the year in the league? Martin has dealt with multiple suspensions and defections and has the Wildcats positioned to be a threat to win the Big 12 conference tournament and go into the NCAAs on quite a high.
Even though it took until late in the season, Martin got Jacob Pullen to become the leader he needed him to be for the Wildcats. Martin is pushing the right buttons with this squad at the right time and, ultimately, isn't that how a coach should be judged? How a team finishes, not just how it starts, should be part of the criteria.
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Self. :blank:
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everyone has such a huge hard on for frank. they might as well just come out and say that the criteria for coy is whatever frank does.
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everyone has such a huge hard on for frank. they might as well just come out and say that the criteria for coy is whatever frank does.
will take
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:bwpopcorn:
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:bwpopcorn:
I can understand why you're excited about the goEMAW.com awards. I am too.
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excited about the goEMAW.com awards. I am too.
:pbj:
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You know who cares about conference awards, losers from loser schools. Not deez katz.
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Jack Harry basically did a segment on why Frank should have gotten COY last night, and Frank B. , Jack, and Lance all said that the POY has basically become Best Player on Best Team and that is why McElbows got it. All three said they would have gone with Jake or Burks. They went on to say that if you take Jake or Burks away from their teams, those teams become OU/OSU/Tech and that Jake and Burks are obviously the most important players to their teams. Said that it is amazing that everyone knows they have to key on Jake, but still can't stop him.
NBC sports wanted a KSU sweep.
They are completely enamored with us. :gocho: