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Title: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 0.42 on February 27, 2011, 08:01:59 PM
Seems pretty insignificant to me. Much like my posting history.

Actually, I really just wanted an excuse to post this again.

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Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2011, 09:26:46 PM
hate them.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 0.42 on February 27, 2011, 09:32:19 PM
hate them.

hey look, my previously (deliberately) worthless thread just gained "board cred"

Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on February 24, 2013, 06:56:37 PM
 :dance:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: hemmy on February 24, 2013, 07:01:46 PM
who gives a f*ck.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on February 24, 2013, 07:03:42 PM
hemmy what are your thoughts on bradley cooper's tuxedo/hair tonight?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 24, 2013, 07:20:00 PM
I think people who get really invested in the oscars/lives/wardrobes of celebrities are kind of stupid. But then again I tivo'd the combine and am watching that tonight, so I kinda suck too.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: GoodForAnother on February 24, 2013, 07:22:07 PM
Don't really care about the whole red carpet preview but I enjoy being a cunty movie snob once every year
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 0.42 on February 24, 2013, 07:26:31 PM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Skipper44 on February 24, 2013, 07:36:28 PM
It is a pretty good watch with the ol' lady and that type of programing is increasingly rare. I would enjoy it more if they moved it after cbb was over and/or you could stream more of the movies. 
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 24, 2013, 10:31:09 PM
:wifeshit:

:motherinlawshit:
 :zzz: :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: puniraptor on February 24, 2013, 10:32:54 PM
It's watchable enough if you are bbs'n the whole time I suppose.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: OK_Cat on February 25, 2013, 08:21:24 AM
they're fun.  why be a fun-hater?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: steve dave on February 25, 2013, 08:25:16 AM
I haven't seen any of these movies
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: OK_Cat on February 25, 2013, 08:30:11 AM
django was good.  i feel like i'd like argo.  i heart bradley cooper, so i'd probably like the one he is in.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 25, 2013, 08:31:54 AM
Watched maybe half of it last night. Seth was not very funny. Only saw a few of the BP nominees. Just didn't really like it last night.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Skipper44 on February 25, 2013, 10:26:01 AM
Seth was not good,  music was meh.  highlight for me was Affleck's acceptance speech.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2013, 10:29:11 AM
I don't like most of the things Seth has done, but I liked him as a host a lot.

I had only seen Lincoln
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: GoodForAnother on February 25, 2013, 11:03:57 AM
Seth was an amazing host, idiots
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2013, 11:18:29 AM
Seth was an amazing host, idiots

yeah, ribbing the stars a bit, getting a little dirty, but still kind of classin' it up.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: kso_FAN on February 25, 2013, 11:23:48 AM
Seth was an amazing host, idiots

yeah, ribbing the stars a bit, getting a little dirty, but still kind of classin' it up.

The "inside Lincoln's head" joke was  :horrorsurprise: and  :lol: at the same time.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2013, 11:32:24 AM
Seth was an amazing host, idiots

yeah, ribbing the stars a bit, getting a little dirty, but still kind of classin' it up.

The "inside Lincoln's head" joke was  :horrorsurprise: and  :lol: at the same time.

150 years, and still too soon? :lol:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: kso_FAN on February 25, 2013, 11:43:08 AM
Seth was an amazing host, idiots

yeah, ribbing the stars a bit, getting a little dirty, but still kind of classin' it up.

The "inside Lincoln's head" joke was  :horrorsurprise: and  :lol: at the same time.

150 years, and still too soon? :lol:

Yeah, his responses after "push the boundries" jokes were great.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: theKSU on February 25, 2013, 11:47:02 AM
I think Shatner killed it. Glad he stopped by on his way to the funeral home.

Also kind of glad Ang Lee won for Best Director and not Spielberg or Affleck--they are already pompous enough. Argo was a good action flick, but Silver Linings Playbook should have won Best Picture. Clooney just stood up there and looked great in that beard instead of giving a speech though.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: chum1 on February 25, 2013, 11:54:12 AM
I think Lost in Translation was the last Oscar movie I saw.  That came out after American Beauty, right?  I think the Oscars are hilarious to watch, though, beacause everyone in them is absolutely ridiculous in one way or another.  And then there's this huge social media sideshow with things like people hating on the host and The Onion calling a nine year-old a $!#*.  It's all fantastic.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 25, 2013, 11:57:37 AM
I think Shatner killed it. Glad he stopped by on his way to the funeral home.

Also kind of glad Ang Lee won for Best Director and not Spielberg or Affleck--they are already pompous enough. Argo was a good action flick, but Silver Linings Playbook should have won Best Picture. Clooney just stood up there and looked great in that beard instead of giving a speech though.

Do you really think Silver Linings Playbook should have won Best Picture?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 25, 2013, 01:02:24 PM
I'm a big movie guy. I get bored easily and rent movies/go to movies all the time. I saw all the movies up for nominations last night minus les mesberles sp* ( hate musicals) & that depressing movie with the old movie. I thought last night was great. Was really happy for adele, qt, Jennifer Lawrence, guy from inglorious bastards/django, Ben, etc. Was a very entertaining night. The haters are dumbasses.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 25, 2013, 01:03:43 PM
I would have given best picture to Django Unchained, but I would have been ok with Lincoln or even Les Miserables winning it. Argo and Silver Linings Playbook were both great movies, but I would have a hard time calling either of them best picture, given the competition.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2013, 01:07:57 PM
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/02/seth-macfarlane-and-the-oscars-hostile-ugly-sexist-night.html?mbid=social_retweet

also adele was pretty bad. seems like she was losing her voice.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 25, 2013, 01:12:11 PM
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/02/seth-macfarlane-and-the-oscars-hostile-ugly-sexist-night.html?mbid=social_retweet

also adele was pretty bad. seems like she was losing her voice.

LOL, that rant was good enough to go in the politics facebook quotes thread.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2013, 01:14:50 PM
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/02/seth-macfarlane-and-the-oscars-hostile-ugly-sexist-night.html?mbid=social_retweet

also adele was pretty bad. seems like she was losing her voice.

LOL, that rant was good enough to go in the politics facebook quotes thread.

Yeah. I mean he had some jokes that were bad sexist jokes but who hasn't made a Chris Brown joke?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on February 25, 2013, 01:55:19 PM
Amy Davidson sounds like a miserable person
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: DQ12 on February 25, 2013, 01:59:14 PM
Amy Davidson sounds like a miserable person
probably just "that time of the month" if you know what i mean

 ;)
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Mr Bread on February 25, 2013, 02:12:30 PM
Amy Davidson sounds like a miserable person
probably just "that time of the month" if you know what i mean

 ;)

Boobs.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 25, 2013, 02:22:35 PM
i don't care for Seth. But he had good jokes. so pretty much in agreement.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 02, 2014, 07:58:37 PM
ellen doing well so far
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: michigancat on March 02, 2014, 08:07:24 PM
ellen doing well so far

She's a very good nice, clean comedian.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 02, 2014, 08:08:03 PM
jim carrey was funny
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Pete on March 02, 2014, 08:08:31 PM
jim carrey was funny

Ya, I enjoyed that.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 02, 2014, 08:15:13 PM
Ellen is awesome! Don't care about this animation crap tho.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 0.42 on March 02, 2014, 08:42:33 PM
emawblast is the best at thread bumps
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Tobias on March 02, 2014, 10:10:07 PM
emawblast is the best at thread bumps

agreed
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 02, 2014, 10:12:44 PM
Gravity winning everything. Clearly the best movie of the year.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 02, 2014, 10:15:26 PM
Gravity winning everything. Clearly the best movie of the year.

its boring music just won best score
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: chunkles on March 02, 2014, 10:16:13 PM
was about to sit with mrs. chunkles and watch but then Bette Midler started singing after the celeb deaths part and then I had to leave the room and think about life
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 03, 2014, 09:18:59 AM
Apparently all you need to do to win an Oscar is lose an obscene amount of weight for a role.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Institutional Control on March 03, 2014, 09:31:33 AM
Apparently all you need to do to win an Oscar is lose an obscene amount of weight for a role.

Have you seen Dallas Buyer's Club?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: steve dave on March 03, 2014, 09:32:11 AM
I haven't seen any of these movies
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 03, 2014, 09:33:32 AM
Apparently all you need to do to win an Oscar is lose an obscene amount of weight for a role.

Have you seen Dallas Buyer's Club?

Watched it last night in lieu of the Oscars.  It was a good movie.  I just didn't think he gave that great a performance other than losing a crap ton of weight.  Now if he won because everyone else sucked this year, then okay. 
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Institutional Control on March 03, 2014, 09:39:24 AM
Apparently all you need to do to win an Oscar is lose an obscene amount of weight for a role.

Have you seen Dallas Buyer's Club?

Watched it last night in lieu of the Oscars.  It was a good movie.  I just didn't think he gave that great a performance other than losing a crap ton of weight.  Now if he won because everyone else sucked this year, then okay.

I wouldn't say everyone sucked but I thought McConaughey was easily the best of what I saw.  The only one  I didn't see was 12 Years a Slave.

oscar Dern was great in Nebraska and I wouldn't have been surprised if he had won either.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 03, 2014, 09:50:05 AM
Apparently all you need to do to win an Oscar is lose an obscene amount of weight for a role.

Have you seen Dallas Buyer's Club?

Watched it last night in lieu of the Oscars.  It was a good movie.  I just didn't think he gave that great a performance other than losing a crap ton of weight.  Now if he won because everyone else sucked this year, then okay.

I wouldn't say everyone sucked but I thought McConaughey was easily the best of what I saw.  The only one  I didn't see was 12 Years a Slave.

oscar Dern was great in Nebraska and I wouldn't have been surprised if he had won either.

Do you think his acting was comparable to something like Denzel/Alonso in Training Day?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Institutional Control on March 03, 2014, 09:53:14 AM
Apparently all you need to do to win an Oscar is lose an obscene amount of weight for a role.

Have you seen Dallas Buyer's Club?

Watched it last night in lieu of the Oscars.  It was a good movie.  I just didn't think he gave that great a performance other than losing a crap ton of weight.  Now if he won because everyone else sucked this year, then okay.

I wouldn't say everyone sucked but I thought McConaughey was easily the best of what I saw.  The only one  I didn't see was 12 Years a Slave.

oscar Dern was great in Nebraska and I wouldn't have been surprised if he had won either.

Do you think his acting was comparable to something like Denzel/Alonso in Training Day?

It's been a while since I saw Training Day so I couldn't say they were comparable or not.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: michigancat on March 03, 2014, 10:09:44 AM
I'm pretty sure the only nominee I have seen was Gatsby, and it was only for costumes or something.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 03, 2014, 01:00:17 PM
Apparently all you need to do to win an Oscar is lose an obscene amount of weight for a role.

Have you seen Dallas Buyer's Club?

Watched it last night in lieu of the Oscars.  It was a good movie.  I just didn't think he gave that great a performance other than losing a crap ton of weight.  Now if he won because everyone else sucked this year, then okay.

I wouldn't say everyone sucked but I thought McConaughey was easily the best of what I saw.  The only one  I didn't see was 12 Years a Slave.

oscar Dern was great in Nebraska and I wouldn't have been surprised if he had won either.

Do you think his acting was comparable to something like Denzel/Alonso in Training Day?

Do you watch movies? McConny was like, 100x times better in Dallas Buyers Club than Denzel was in Training Day. I'm not exaggerating or goEMAWing, that is absolutely true.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 03, 2014, 01:07:31 PM
Denzel's performance in TD is very overrated I'd say. He was good but it wasn't anything spectacular.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 03, 2014, 01:08:43 PM
Denzel's performance in TD is very overrated I'd say. He was good but it wasn't anything spectacular.

it seems awesome because of who he was partnered with.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 03, 2014, 01:11:49 PM
I didn't think Denzel's TD performance was great, but I did think it was much better than the DBC performance that also won an Oscar.  I specifically picked that performance over others that I absolutely thought deserved the award, like Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man. 
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Trim on March 03, 2014, 01:18:53 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 03, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
That's interesting you say that, because in my review of Dallas Buyers Club in the movie thread, I said him and Leto should win Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor. So if you're argument is that no one "absolutely thought they deserved" the award, you're wrong because I did. And if you're argument is that you're really good at watching movies and deciding who is giving a good/great performance and who is not, well there's just not a lot of evidence for that argument right now.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 03, 2014, 01:23:15 PM
I'd love to see your list of who did and didn't deserve Oscars over the last 20 years Stevesie.  :D
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 03, 2014, 01:25:37 PM
I'd love to see your list of who did and didn't deserve Oscars over the last 20 years Stevesie.  :D

Maybe after March Madness.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 03, 2014, 01:28:13 PM
I think Jack Black was robbed in 2012 (would have been 2013 Oscars I guess). His performance in Bernie was phenomenal.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 26, 2014, 12:48:02 PM
I'd love to see your list of who did and didn't deserve Oscars over the last 20 years Stevesie.  :D

Maybe after March Madness.

 :Chirp:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 26, 2014, 12:57:49 PM
That's interesting you say that, because in my review of Dallas Buyers Club in the movie thread, I said him and Leto should win Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor. So if you're argument is that no one "absolutely thought they deserved" the award, you're wrong because I did. And if you're argument is that you're really good at watching movies and deciding who is giving a good/great performance and who is not, well there's just not a lot of evidence for that argument right now.

leto was fantastic
mc was really good
jennifer garner darn near ruined it and i'd give her a racso. that's oscar backwards you guys.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 26, 2014, 01:27:47 PM
jennifer garner darn near ruined it and i'd give her a racso. that's oscar backwards you guys.

really has gone downhill since her scene in catch me if you can.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 26, 2014, 02:37:59 PM
I'd love to see your list of who did and didn't deserve Oscars over the last 20 years Stevesie.  :D

Maybe after March Madness.

 :Chirp:

I'm binge watching a bunch of Best Picture nominated movies from the past decade. I'll get together with Trim on a blog post soon.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 26, 2014, 02:41:00 PM
Cool.

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Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on February 09, 2022, 04:01:27 PM
https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/2022
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: cfbandyman on February 09, 2022, 06:16:30 PM
One of my friends hosts an Oscar party every year, with the categories and you choose who wins, the one who has the most categories right at the end of the night is the winner. Makes watching the oscar's infinitely better with something on the line (and I generally don't care about them at all)
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Kat Kid on February 09, 2022, 06:58:48 PM
That's interesting you say that, because in my review of Dallas Buyers Club in the movie thread, I said him and Leto should win Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor. So if you're argument is that no one "absolutely thought they deserved" the award, you're wrong because I did. And if you're argument is that you're really good at watching movies and deciding who is giving a good/great performance and who is not, well there's just not a lot of evidence for that argument right now.

leto was fantastic
mc was really good
jennifer garner darn near ruined it and i'd give her a racso. that's oscar backwards you guys.

funny story, I once knew a guy named Racso. His dad was named Oscar.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2022, 09:40:53 PM
https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1508271865625722888?s=21
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Cire on March 27, 2022, 09:42:28 PM
That was wild


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Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Cire on March 27, 2022, 10:10:42 PM
https://twitter.com/willsmith/status/1508271651221217285?s=21&t=fqG6BExo2dcgQ4wxYTw3Uw


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Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2022, 10:17:50 PM
And he just won for lead actor after that.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2022, 10:33:41 PM
https://twitter.com/nygiants82610/status/1508283180796854275?s=21
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2022, 11:23:31 PM
https://twitter.com/hawk/status/1508290647085633536?s=21
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 12:29:07 AM
I'd like to think that Chris Rock didn't know she has alopecia and how she feels about it, that's a pretty rough ridin' awful joke and he's way too good of a comedian for that cheap trick. I felt awful for her, she looked like she was going to cry when he told it.

Gotta say though, he ate that slap like a champ
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2022, 12:45:45 AM
Lmao, what a champ Rock is, and what a bitch Will Smith is. That’s a cowardly rough ridin' move to do that.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 07:23:48 AM


I'd like to think that Chris Rock didn't know she has alopecia and how she feels about it, that's a pretty rough ridin' awful joke and he's way too good of a comedian for that cheap trick. I felt awful for her, she looked like she was going to cry when he told it.

Gotta say though, he ate that slap like a champ



0% chance

https://twitter.com/AmberAbundance/status/1508277545891995657?t=gu5aZK6QSE5gC1tufmydog&s=19
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 07:30:56 AM
https://twitter.com/willsmith/status/1508271651221217285?s=21&t=fqG6BExo2dcgQ4wxYTw3Uw


that's a different Will Smith
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Tobias on March 28, 2022, 07:31:47 AM
that's what made it hilarious in real time
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 08:28:37 AM
Lmao, what a champ Rock is, and what a bitch Will Smith is. That’s a cowardly rough ridin' move to do that.

You're going to have to explain how walking up to someone face to face and slapping that person, is cowardly. I mean it can be a lot of things to a lot of people but I'm not seeing cowardly.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2022, 08:31:12 AM
I'm really surprised it happened on the show. Would have thought it could have been handled backstage. I can only assume Will being the butt of internet jokes about Jada the last 5 years finally made him go for it, only being 10 ft from Chris.
Also why did he slap and not punch the F outta him?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 08:33:15 AM
slap is more disrespectful. he woulda been tossed for throwing a closed fist punch
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: DQ12 on March 28, 2022, 08:50:31 AM
slap is more disrespectful. he woulda been tossed for throwing a closed fist punch
closed fists used to always result in DQ's (which is why the nature boy relied on his iconic knife edge chops) but officials have been pretty lax about it since the mid-90s or so.  now closed fists are universally accepted as a legal move.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 09:34:55 AM
I'm really surprised it happened on the show. Would have thought it could have been handled backstage. I can only assume Will being the butt of internet jokes about Jada the last 5 years finally made him go for it, only being 10 ft from Chris.

I think it was seeing her and how she reacted to the joke that made him snap.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: OK_Cat on March 28, 2022, 09:40:40 AM
Just proves that Will is a little bitch, honestly. There’s no honor is what he did.


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Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: star seed 7 on March 28, 2022, 09:48:27 AM
Pretty meh on all of this but I'm very much enjoying the Ted cruz memes.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: star seed 7 on March 28, 2022, 09:53:02 AM
It's also hilarious that he just sat back down and everyone there was like "eh, alright"
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2022, 09:53:16 AM
What’s the security like at this thing? I don’t think Rock or anyone else thought Will was going to slap anyone when he got on stage.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2022, 10:04:55 AM
just got caught up on what happened, chris handled everything really well
that joke was dumb and he deserved to get slapped for telling such a bad joke, but not there and not because it was about will’s wife.  just a stupid joke.  unfortunate incident that happened in front of too many people.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: OB_Won on March 28, 2022, 10:06:38 AM
Lmao, what a champ Rock is, and what a bitch Will Smith is. That’s a cowardly rough ridin' move to do that.

You're going to have to explain how walking up to someone face to face and slapping that person, is cowardly. I mean it can be a lot of things to a lot of people but I'm not seeing cowardly.
There's about a 0% chance Chris Rock was expecting to be hit in that situation. Pretend punch, confrontation, push maybe but no SANE person does THAT with 10M people watching live worldwide and countless others on social media. This makes Kanye look tame.

It's a shame that this overshadowed Will's only Oscar win. I'm actually pretty disappointed that the Academy allowed Will to stay in the theater and accept the Oscar. He should have been escorted out of the building, immediately.

For the guy who played Ali, Smith's slaps are as soft as his raps. 5'10, 175lb soaking wet 57 year old Chris Rock was barely phased by that unexpected assault.

Next time take that mess backstage, and then publicly shame Rock for his poor tasted joke. Will better be prepared to have every opportunist come at him when he goes out in public, because they'll be baiting him into a chance to sue.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 10:11:21 AM
i could understand Will's reaction a little more if Rock had made a joke about their relationship where it was directed at both of them, but it was a joke directly about Jada, who is famous and a star in her own right.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: cfbandyman on March 28, 2022, 10:16:42 AM
It was unbelievable when it happened, I refused to be it was real and it was just some act. Boy was I wrong
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: OB_Won on March 28, 2022, 10:18:20 AM
i could understand Will's reaction a little more if Rock had made a joke about their relationship where it was directed at both of them, but it was a joke directly about Jada, who is famous and a star in her own right.
I was in my fair share of fights as a stupid adolescent, so I'm not exactly clutching my pearls over why he did it. I just can't believe he walked up on stage at the Oscars and did it in front of the entire world.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 28, 2022, 10:22:54 AM
Best show ever*

*I have never watched the Oscars and did not watch this one.  Just saw the clip in this thread.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: catastrophe on March 28, 2022, 10:24:09 AM
Lmao, what a champ Rock is, and what a bitch Will Smith is. That’s a cowardly rough ridin' move to do that.

You're going to have to explain how walking up to someone face to face and slapping that person, is cowardly. I mean it can be a lot of things to a lot of people but I'm not seeing cowardly.
It seems a little attention whore-y to me, but hey maybe that was the point. People will probably eventually forget why Will even did it in the first place. Less attention on his wife than if he just publicly criticized Rock.
Title: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: catastrophe on March 28, 2022, 10:26:21 AM
just got caught up on what happened, chris handled everything really well
that joke was dumb and he deserved to get slapped for telling such a bad joke, but not there and not because it was about will’s wife.  just a stupid joke.  unfortunate incident that happened in front of too many people.
Listening to the clip it seemed like a total throwaway line. Completely forgettable but for what followed.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 10:32:24 AM
i do wish the joke had been better
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 28, 2022, 10:32:58 AM
I think we all know that will smith’s bitch ass would not have walked onto the stage if the person standing there was the rock Duane Johnson and not Chris rock the comedian. The fresh prince is quite the tough guy though when someone is half a foot shorter and 80 pounds lighter than him.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 28, 2022, 10:39:19 AM
Also, props to Chris rock for keeping it professional and for keeping the show moving when he could’ve made fun of will and his wife for a million different things that I’m sure immediately came to his mind after will yelled two separate times. You can see him think about it for a half second, bite his tongue and then keep going.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2022, 11:09:54 AM
At its core, the joke is mocking Jada's appearance which is a result of a medical condition. I'm not going to pretend that I run around fighting people, but I would certainly be pissed if someone was mocking my wife over a medical condition she's sensitive about.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 11:14:52 AM
lots of great tweets out there but my favorite was something like chris is lucky all the dudes banging jada didn't also rush the stage
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: bucket on March 28, 2022, 11:16:30 AM
lots of great tweets out there but my favorite was something like chris is lucky all the dudes banging jada didn't also rush the stage

ya my IG has had some pretty good memes. Some related to mocat's comment.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 11:19:08 AM
At its core, the joke is mocking Jada's appearance which is a result of a medical condition. I'm not going to pretend that I run around fighting people, but I would certainly be pissed if someone was mocking my wife over a medical condition she's sensitive about.

do we know Chris (or his writers) was aware of her condition?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2022, 11:26:46 AM
At its core, the joke is mocking Jada's appearance which is a result of a medical condition. I'm not going to pretend that I run around fighting people, but I would certainly be pissed if someone was mocking my wife over a medical condition she's sensitive about.

do we know Chris (or his writers) was aware of her condition?

I doubt the writers were involved as I took it as an ad-libbed joke.  I don't know if he was but I don't think it takes a lot of sense to keep your mouth shut about a woman's bald head if you aren't sure.  If I'm Will and I know the joke hurt my wife, I don't necessarily care if Rock knew.  I'm not sure if that's what set Will off either and it doesn't totally justify his actions, I've seen the incident framed as a culmination of Rock jokes at their expense, but it would make it more understandable to me.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Kat Kid on March 28, 2022, 11:28:17 AM
I am working on a take on this. Still have some more thinking to do.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 11:29:40 AM
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1508439453840379909?s=20&t=hNBogqpNXo3dV4r5Stx_gQ
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: _33 on March 28, 2022, 11:32:06 AM
If you're on Will Smith's side in this I question your mental stability.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 11:32:11 AM
https://twitter.com/SuliMcCullough/status/1508358315427827714?s=20&t=hNBogqpNXo3dV4r5Stx_gQ
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 28, 2022, 11:33:03 AM
The medical condition is alopecia though. Hair loss. Like over 1/5 women have it at some point. Will just finally had enough with everyone making fun of him and his wife and their relationship so he decided to assault a 150 pound 60 year old comedian on national tv. Not how I would’ve handled it but oh well, just say you were defending your wife’s honor or some bullshit, then bring up god and 50% of America will apparently be ok with it.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 11:35:48 AM
don't forget being a vessel for love
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2022, 11:36:32 AM
No surprise where Officer Daris falls on this topic.  :cop: :cop lights:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 11:36:37 AM
is it the live on national tv part that's giving you guys a hard time? because getting open hand slapped is exactly what you should expect when you go after someone's wife's medical condition.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2022, 11:36:43 AM
It’s a condition that makes your hair fall out. It’s not rough ridin' cancer. Smith is a bitch because he did that in a situation where he was protected and knew rock wouldn’t expect it. It was a cheap shot. The worst that would have happened is he’s hauled off by security. Ridiculous that he wasn’t hauled out of there.

Will isn’t mad a Rock anyway. He’s mad at himself and prob his wife for stepping out on him, but of course took her back like the baby back bitch he is.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 11:38:00 AM
is it the live on national tv part that's giving you guys a hard time? because getting open hand slapped is exactly what you should expect when you go after someone's wife's medical condition.

i'll ask again do we know Rock and/or his writers were aware of her condition?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 11:39:44 AM
she's been public with it for like a year. chris rock produced a documentary (Good Hair) specifically about black people's hair. if it's true that the joke was written ahead of time then he was certainly aware.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2022, 11:40:33 AM
is it the live on national tv part that's giving you guys a hard time? because getting open hand slapped is exactly what you should expect when you go after someone's wife's medical condition.

Chris Rock is a comedian being paid to go up and roast a couple of celebrities with jokes he probably didn't even write for the Oscars event. The celebrities are all very well aware that some jokes are going to be told at their expense, and that they are more likely to be victims if they are nominated for something. It happens every year.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: _33 on March 28, 2022, 11:42:26 AM
is it the live on national tv part that's giving you guys a hard time? because getting open hand slapped is exactly what you should expect when you go after someone's wife's medical condition.

No it's the part where it's the Oscars and the entire premise is that the COMEDIAN host roasts celebrities in between awards.  If you're a multi-millionaire celebrity who can't mentally handle a slight ribbing from a comedian then maybe don't go to a place where you know a comedian will be ribbing celebrities.  It's not like some guy shouted something to her in a wal-mart parking lot.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 11:45:22 AM
i take back the 'did they know?' question because it doesn't even matter. she's laughing about it and sharing to the world here, which is great. while i don't find it all that funny, a GI Jane joke is so tame. it's not even mean.

[instagram]https://www.instagram.com/p/CYB7dMppvjk/[/instagram]
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2022, 11:45:50 AM
is it the live on national tv part that's giving you guys a hard time? because getting open hand slapped is exactly what you should expect when you go after someone's wife's medical condition.

Chris Rock is a comedian being paid to go up and roast a couple of celebrities with jokes he probably didn't even write for the Oscars event. The celebrities are all very well aware that some jokes are going to be told at their expense, and that they are more likely to be victims if they are nominated for something. It happens every year.

This. Chris Rock is a professional. Kudos to him for handling it so well.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 28, 2022, 11:48:48 AM
is it the live on national tv part that's giving you guys a hard time? because getting open hand slapped is exactly what you should expect when you go after someone's wife's medical condition.

If one more person says medical condition, I’m going to lose my rough ridin' mind. If she had cancer, you’d just say cancer but you can’t because she just has hair loss and that’s lame and you know it so you say “medical condition”
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2022, 11:50:14 AM
is it the live on national tv part that's giving you guys a hard time? because getting open hand slapped is exactly what you should expect when you go after someone's wife's medical condition.

If one more person says medical condition, I’m going to lose my rough ridin' mind. If she had cancer, you’d just say cancer but you can’t because she just has hair loss and that’s lame and you know it so you say “medical condition”

Exactly. It less malicious that ripping on someone for psoriasis.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 11:52:35 AM
it is not ok to make fun of someone (especially female) for having alopecia
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Institutional Control on March 28, 2022, 11:53:59 AM
I have hair loss and I do not like jokes about it either.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 11:55:45 AM
it is not ok to make fun of someone (especially female) for having alopecia

that said, Will laughed at the joke until he caught the laser eyes. this is probably more to do with chris rock going after jada at the 2016 oscars, and of course all the bizarre stuff with Will and Jada and other dudes, and Will claiming he pukes when he orgasms, etc. lots of weird stuff simmering under the surface.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: chum1 on March 28, 2022, 11:56:34 AM
I don't like when rich and famous people get away with stuff the rest of us wouldn't. On top of that, the person in this case has to be WILL SMITH?? Like, it's one thing for people to be like "let's give De Niro a pass." But WILL SMITH!?!? Yuck.

Ultimately, though, it's just hair loss and it's just a slap. They'll all survive.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2022, 11:57:43 AM
I think we all know that will smith’s bitch ass would not have walked onto the stage if the person standing there was the rock Duane Johnson and not Chris rock the comedian. The fresh prince is quite the tough guy though when someone is half a foot shorter and 80 pounds lighter than him.  :rolleyes:

THIS
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 11:58:41 AM
if this happened at someone's house nobody would be kicked out. there is a line between open hand / closed fist. i mean the audience laughed when it happened.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2022, 12:01:16 PM
if this happened at someone's house nobody would be kicked out. there is a line between open hand / closed fist. i mean the audience laughed when it happened.

The audience assumed it was fake.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2022, 12:01:40 PM
It's weird to me because they are both old-ass men in their 50s. I guess it makes sense from Chris Rock's side (joke about a 90s movie, shrug the slap off, etc.) but it really makes you wonder about Will Smith's mental health.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2022, 12:02:38 PM
Will Smith is definitely the one walking away from this looking ridiculous.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 12:02:50 PM
before this all went down i watched Will on CBS Sunday Morning a couple weeks ago and made the comment that he seemed off
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2022, 12:03:57 PM
Chris Rock should have pressed charges. 
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Kat Kid on March 28, 2022, 12:04:15 PM
Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 12:05:58 PM
Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or made any choice that she wanted. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.

same energy

(https://c.tenor.com/JwkZKbIjjH0AAAAM/will-ferrell-old-school.gif)
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: CHONGS on March 28, 2022, 12:08:32 PM
I've never slapped anyone in the face (yet). 
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: catastrophe on March 28, 2022, 12:08:44 PM
it is not ok to make fun of someone (especially female) for having alopecia
I don’t think you can make a blanket statement like this. First of all, circumstances matter. I agree Rock shouldn’t (and he wouldn’t) yell a comment like that across the red carpet or something if he saw her. But this isn’t that. People go to award shows hosted by comedians expecting to get roasted. It was clearly not a mean spirited joke like some tend to be.

Second, I disagree with setting some kind of line where we can make fun of things that are the result of choices vs. medical conditions. Is it ok to make fun of a fat person who overeats out of depression (or sheer laziness) but not a person with a thyroid issue? I personally would take less offense to people making fun of aspects of my life I have no control over. In that case at least it’s clearly not a judgment about you or your character.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 12:11:25 PM
if this happened at someone's house nobody would be kicked out. there is a line between open hand / closed fist. i mean the audience laughed when it happened.

The audience assumed it was fake.

exactly!
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 12:12:21 PM
it is not ok to make fun of someone (especially female) for having alopecia
I don’t think you can make a blanket statement like this. First of all, circumstances matter. I agree Rock shouldn’t (and he wouldn’t) yell a comment like that across the red carpet or something if he saw her. But this isn’t that. People go to award shows hosted by comedians expecting to get roasted. It was clearly not a mean spirited joke like some tend to be.

Second, I disagree with setting some kind of line where we can make fun of things that are the result of choices vs. medical conditions. Is it ok to make fun of a fat person who overeats out of depression (or sheer laziness) but not a person with a thyroid issue? I personally would take less offense to people making fun of aspects of my life I have no control over. In that case at least it’s clearly not a judgment about you or your character.

well i absolutely think that is a clear and obvious line of distinction in terms of what you can/can't make fun of someone for
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 12:13:07 PM
before this all went down i watched Will on CBS Sunday Morning a couple weeks ago and made the comment that he seemed off

yeah he is probably not well
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2022, 12:13:12 PM
I mean, we have laws against violence.  We do not have laws about hurtful hair loss comments.  Our society seems to be pretty OK with saying that assault and battery is not an acceptable response to a verbal insult. That's well settled, right?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: catastrophe on March 28, 2022, 12:13:15 PM
Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.
Agree with this and worth emphasizing that “disability” is a huge category and many adult disabled people don’t need someone to stand up for them, they just need a platform to make people listen. This is the opposite of that.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 12:13:52 PM
Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.

i'm pretty sure jada eyeballed Will onto the stage but i haven't seen direct video evidence of this
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2022, 12:14:49 PM
if this happened at someone's house nobody would be kicked out. there is a line between open hand / closed fist. i mean the audience laughed when it happened.

The audience assumed it was fake.

exactly!

wut?

They laughed, not because of the nature of the strike, but because they thought it was a comedic bit.  They didn't laugh because slapping is hilarious.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: catastrophe on March 28, 2022, 12:15:29 PM
it is not ok to make fun of someone (especially female) for having alopecia
I don’t think you can make a blanket statement like this. First of all, circumstances matter. I agree Rock shouldn’t (and he wouldn’t) yell a comment like that across the red carpet or something if he saw her. But this isn’t that. People go to award shows hosted by comedians expecting to get roasted. It was clearly not a mean spirited joke like some tend to be.

Second, I disagree with setting some kind of line where we can make fun of things that are the result of choices vs. medical conditions. Is it ok to make fun of a fat person who overeats out of depression (or sheer laziness) but not a person with a thyroid issue? I personally would take less offense to people making fun of aspects of my life I have no control over. In that case at least it’s clearly not a judgment about you or your character.

well i absolutely think that is a clear and obvious line of distinction in terms of what you can/can't make fun of someone for
What about genetics? Why is that different than a medical condition? You’re saying it’s not ok to make fun of Kevin Hart for being short but you could make fun of him for cheating on his wife (as an example; I have no clue).
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2022, 12:15:36 PM
I think the lesson here is that open relationships usually end up in a crap show.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: star seed 7 on March 28, 2022, 12:16:45 PM
In a comedic context, slapping is absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 12:18:13 PM
if this happened at someone's house nobody would be kicked out. there is a line between open hand / closed fist. i mean the audience laughed when it happened.

The audience assumed it was fake.

exactly!

wut?

They laughed, not because of the nature of the strike, but because they thought it was a comedic bit.  They didn't laugh because slapping is hilarious.
I disagree. Slapping is objectively hilarious
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: catastrophe on March 28, 2022, 12:19:06 PM
In a comedic context, slapping is absolutely hilarious.
I actually think it would have been pretty good if Will did the slap but pulled it a little bit, sat back down, and didn’t say another word. That would have been both funny and sent a clear message without looking unhinged.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: star seed 7 on March 28, 2022, 12:20:15 PM
In a comedic context, slapping is absolutely hilarious.

Many non-comediac contexts as well.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 12:21:22 PM
I think the lesson here is that open relationships usually end up in a crap show.

i am not 100% up to speed on the ins and outs of will & jada's marriage, but it was my understanding this was infidelity that turned into an open relationship as a way to salvage the marriage
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: _33 on March 28, 2022, 12:23:16 PM
I think the lesson here is that open relationships usually end up in a crap show.

i am not 100% up to speed on the ins and outs of will & jada's marriage, but it was my understanding this was infidelity that turned into an open relationship as a way to salvage the marriage

Things seem to be working out beautifully
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2022, 12:24:23 PM
Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.

What is her disability?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2022, 12:24:55 PM
if this happened at someone's house nobody would be kicked out. there is a line between open hand / closed fist. i mean the audience laughed when it happened.
not sure what kind of parties that you’re hosting, but if someone lays a hand on one of my guests, they’re getting kicked out
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2022, 12:35:13 PM
I'm not justifying Will Smith being violent, but I could certainly imagine Jada feeling like she missed out on roles or being self-conscious.  Her making jokes about it publicly is far different from someone on national TV doing it.

Alopecia isn't cancer but at that point we're just arguing degrees and accepting that it's in bad taste.  Will Smith giving an acceptance speech centered around justifying it afterward was also in pretty bad taste.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: DQ12 on March 28, 2022, 12:39:19 PM
hollyweird
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: _33 on March 28, 2022, 12:39:49 PM
It's part of the show.  It would be like if you were on the boardwalk and you slapped the caricature artist because he accentuated your wife's buck teeth.  It's his job!
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2022, 12:41:36 PM
Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.

What is her disability?

Hair growing
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2022, 12:41:48 PM
chris rock’s joke wasn’t in bad taste, it was a bad joke.  we’re talking about the same guy who said he understood why oj basically decapitated nicole and ron goldman, that was a funny joke.

everything that will smith did was wrong, chris rock did nothing wrong.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 12:51:51 PM
It's part of the show.  It would be like if you were on the boardwalk and you slapped the caricature artist because he accentuated your wife's buck teeth.  It's his job!

will smith is an entertainer and i'd say he did his job to the max last night
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 12:52:16 PM
Lmao, what a champ Rock is, and what a bitch Will Smith is. That’s a cowardly rough ridin' move to do that.

You're going to have to explain how walking up to someone face to face and slapping that person, is cowardly. I mean it can be a lot of things to a lot of people but I'm not seeing cowardly.
It seems a little attention whore-y to me, but hey maybe that was the point. People will probably eventually forget why Will even did it in the first place. Less attention on his wife than if he just publicly criticized Rock.

Uh, I don't think that was calculated.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2022, 01:04:22 PM
In a comedic context, slapping is absolutely hilarious.

Many non-comediac contexts as well.

Despite my responses, this is also true.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 01:05:14 PM
At its core, the joke is mocking Jada's appearance which is a result of a medical condition. I'm not going to pretend that I run around fighting people, but I would certainly be pissed if someone was mocking my wife over a medical condition she's sensitive about.

Regardless of Will's reaction, if this isn't a significant take away from that incident your decency as a person should 100% be called into question. The joke was out of pocket as was Will Smith's reaction, I'm legitimately confused as to how there could be any other take.

Chris Rock has two of the most famous stand up routines of all time, nether of them had a single joke making fun of someone's appearance. I can't remember any good comedian telling a joke about someone's appearance altered by disease or accident. Holding a microphone or having an audience whether it's in a theatre, arena, or the internet doesn't give you license to say whatever you want without repercussion.

I will bet anyone every single dollar I have that Chris Rock will apologize to Jada Pinkett Smith and if nothing else, he regrets telling that joke.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2022, 01:08:52 PM
Yeah, it was an awful joke. I heard it and didn't get it until the camera showed Jada looking pissed off, and my comment at the time was that if she shaved her head for a role, that was a pretty funny joke, but if she has cancer or something, it sucks. But then Will Smith got up and made the quality of the joke completely irrelevant.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 28, 2022, 01:14:40 PM
I'd pay $100 to watch Rock and Adam Sandler talk about this for an hour.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2022, 01:18:45 PM
They'll make a shitty Netflix movie about it soon. Don't worry.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2022, 01:27:55 PM
https://twitter.com/MrGo30/status/1508489630110343176?s=20&t=qa7_CSd8b6B-g4dXF-fC_A :billdance:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 01:36:45 PM
lots of great tweets out there but my favorite was something like chris is lucky all the dudes banging jada didn't also rush the stage

These "jokes" are also problematic. I don't know what them, at one time, having an opening relationship has anything to do her now having alopecia and the appropriateness of joking about it. She's mocked for getting it in, I haven't seen a single joke or mockery about Will doing the same with Margot Robbie and others. This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2022, 01:42:17 PM
If it is something to be pissed about, be pissed about it. 

I can't imagine someone saying something to my wife that would result in me hitting them, short of a threat of violence or something along those lines.  You know why?  Because I am an adult.  This is some childish insecure little man bullshit. 
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2022, 01:42:41 PM
come on now, he was telling a joke and she’s not some defenseless maiden
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 28, 2022, 01:42:54 PM
This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?
Yes, by her husband. It's a joke not some other guy's dick.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 01:46:39 PM
Chris Rock should have pressed charges.

lol. This is without a doubt the second worse take I've seen in this from many people.  This, for the record, is the worst
https://twitter.com/Kbrino222/status/1508436296573722626

Anyway I need to know how in the eff can you say, "Will should be able to take the joke," and say "it's just alopecia" then say Rock should press charges. He wasn't hurt, maybe embarrassed on TV, but to think he should be able to say whatever he wants but then should run to the cops, for that? That's some impressive cognitive dissonance, well done to all.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: _33 on March 28, 2022, 01:55:02 PM
Well, one is legal and the other is illegal.  Seems pretty simple.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: OK_Cat on March 28, 2022, 01:55:30 PM
Makeitrain thinks grown men hitting other grown men is perfectly fine


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Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 01:56:14 PM
come on now, he was telling a joke and she’s not some defenseless maiden

We're a month away from many of us sharing a space together, are you ready, right now to give every single person in that room they license to say whatever they want to everyone in there without repercussion?

If that were Mel Gibson up there joking about her lip size and broad nose, we all cool with that?

Why are people trying to legislate what Will's and Jada's lines should be before they get upset, as if that's anything that can be defined? This wasn't a celebrity roast, as much as some people itt are framing it that way. I really don't get "that shouldn't have upset him," as if he's the only person in the world upset by words.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2022, 01:57:06 PM
Will Smith is wealthy enough that a civil suit has to at least be sort of tempting. I'd agree that Rock should be big enough to not file charges, legally or civilly, though.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 01:57:52 PM
Chris Rock should have pressed charges.

lol. This is without a doubt the second worse take I've seen in this from many people.  This, for the record, is the worst
https://twitter.com/Kbrino222/status/1508436296573722626

Anyway I need to know how in the eff can you say, "Will should be able to take the joke," and say "it's just alopecia" then say Rock should press charges. He wasn't hurt, maybe embarrassed on TV, but to think he should be able to say whatever he wants but then should run to the cops, for that? That's some impressive cognitive dissonance, well done to all.

judd apatow had a (now-deleted) banger about how Will could have killed Rock with that slap
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: DQ12 on March 28, 2022, 02:00:50 PM
Chris Rock's joke wasn't very nice and Will Smith shouldn't have interrupted the show to slap Chris Rock. 

We should try to do a better job of not hurting people's feelings and keeping our hands to our selves.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 02:02:03 PM
Makeitrain thinks grown men hitting other grown men is perfectly fine


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I miss your dumb ass takes and inability to read or form a cogent thought. This was literally 11 posts before you posted this dumb crap.
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The joke was out of pocket as was Will Smith's reaction, I'm legitimately confused as to how there could be any other take.
Learn how to read, you dumb [redacted].
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 02:03:17 PM
This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?
Yes, by her husband. It's a joke not some other guy's dick.

Do you need help understanding "this whole thing?"
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 02:04:07 PM
Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.

Chris Rock's joke wasn't very nice and Will Smith shouldn't have interrupted the show to slap Chris Rock. 

We should try to do a better job of not hurting people's feelings and keeping our hands to our selves.

The end.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: DQ12 on March 28, 2022, 02:07:06 PM
Chris Rock's joke wasn't very nice and Will Smith shouldn't have interrupted the show to slap Chris Rock. 

We should try to do a better job of not hurting people's feelings and keeping our hands to our selves.

The end.
Yes except for laughing at the absurdity of the entire situation, which is warranted imo.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Spracne on March 28, 2022, 02:09:05 PM
Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock, while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris's unacceptable words, or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, Will's actions sucked the oxygen out of KU triumphantly returning to the Final Four for the first time since 2018 without my consent.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 28, 2022, 02:09:54 PM
This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?
Yes, by her husband. It's a joke not some other guy's dick.

Do you need help understanding "this whole thing?"
I'm sure you could enlighten us all on how a comedian shouldn't say anything that could be possibly controversial.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: DQ12 on March 28, 2022, 02:12:55 PM
This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?
Yes, by her husband. It's a joke not some other guy's dick.

Do you need help understanding "this whole thing?"
I'm sure you could enlighten us all on how a comedian shouldn't say anything that could be possibly controversial.
i think the issue is that people think rock was punching down at jada because she's bald.  "punching down" is generally frowned upon.

you can be controversial without punching down.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: OK_Cat on March 28, 2022, 02:19:40 PM
Makeitrain thinks grown men hitting other grown men is perfectly fine


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I miss your dumb ass takes and inability to read or form a cogent thought. This was literally 11 posts before you posted this dumb crap.
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The joke was out of pocket as was Will Smith's reaction, I'm legitimately confused as to how there could be any other take.
Learn how to read, you dumb [redacted].
You’re definitely not unhinged


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Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: star seed 7 on March 28, 2022, 02:22:48 PM
lots of great tweets out there but my favorite was something like chris is lucky all the dudes banging jada didn't also rush the stage

These "jokes" are also problematic. I don't know what them, at one time, having an opening relationship has anything to do her now having alopecia and the appropriateness of joking about it. She's mocked for getting it in, I haven't seen a single joke or mockery about Will doing the same with Margot Robbie and others. This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?

I don't know about problematic but it certainly gets an eye roll from me. Lots of people can't accept that other people may not share the same expectations of marriage that they do.

Also Chris Rock pressing charges would be really disappointing, I'm glad he decided to just be the bigger person.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: stunted on March 28, 2022, 02:26:47 PM
when joking about stuff that could be insecurities, really need to know how the person is going to take it. and then be even more safe with it as a buffer.

anyone who says "it's just a joke" probably has never been made fun of for any deep insecurities. it feels super shitty. saying it's just a joke is like those "IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO RELAX" videos that used to pollute the internet.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: _33 on March 28, 2022, 02:36:27 PM
MakeItRain, have you ever considered not debating with extreme passion every single thing that happens in the entire world and universe and multiverse?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2022, 02:40:20 PM
This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?
Yes, by her husband. It's a joke not some other guy's dick.

Do you need help understanding "this whole thing?"
I'm sure you could enlighten us all on how a comedian shouldn't say anything that could be possibly controversial.
You can't root for comedians to be controversial and be upset when people do, in fact, find it controversial.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2022, 02:43:54 PM
hosts, which are often times comedians, do roast the audiences at awards shows, it brings levity.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 28, 2022, 02:44:39 PM
What's funny about this is if he doesn't slap Chris Rock no one is even talking about this today.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 02:49:00 PM
i'm still struggling with the idea that it was that mean of a joke. going to get way too analytical here, but

he didn't make fun of her inability to grow hair - ex. "Jada your son's career has taken off quite well, growing rapidly. Your hair should take some lessons" i mean that's not funny but something along those lines.

he was just making a dumb joke about having a buzzed head and i still say whoever wrote the joke probably wasn't aware of the alopecia thing.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2022, 02:51:04 PM
At its core, the joke is mocking Jada's appearance which is a result of a medical condition. I'm not going to pretend that I run around fighting people, but I would certainly be pissed if someone was mocking my wife over a medical condition she's sensitive about.

Regardless of Will's reaction, if this isn't a significant take away from that incident your decency as a person should 100% be called into question. The joke was out of pocket as was Will Smith's reaction, I'm legitimately confused as to how there could be any other take.

Chris Rock has two of the most famous stand up routines of all time, nether of them had a single joke making fun of someone's appearance. I can't remember any good comedian telling a joke about someone's appearance altered by disease or accident. Holding a microphone or having an audience whether it's in a theatre, arena, or the internet doesn't give you license to say whatever you want without repercussion.

I will bet anyone every single dollar I have that Chris Rock will apologize to Jada Pinkett Smith and if nothing else, he regrets telling that joke.

I'm not saying Chris Rock didn't know, but I thought Jada looked beautiful and had no idea she had a condition and didn't shave her head intentionally
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 02:51:45 PM
same
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 28, 2022, 03:06:18 PM
lots of great tweets out there but my favorite was something like chris is lucky all the dudes banging jada didn't also rush the stage

These "jokes" are also problematic. I don't know what them, at one time, having an opening relationship has anything to do her now having alopecia and the appropriateness of joking about it. She's mocked for getting it in, I haven't seen a single joke or mockery about Will doing the same with Margot Robbie and others. This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?

I don't know about problematic but it certainly gets an eye roll from me. Lots of people can't accept that other people may not share the same expectations of marriage that they do.

Also Chris Rock pressing charges would be really disappointing, I'm glad he decided to just be the bigger person.

Yeah I agree with all of this.

Also, Chris Rock didn’t write the joke. He just delivered the line that was written for him (which was his job) and it was a pretty tame joke in my opinion. Then he took the slap like a champ with his hands behind his back the whole time. Then he refrained from saying mean crap when you can tell he wanted to for about .5 seconds. Then he just kept the ball rolling. Then he chose not to make a big deal out of some idiot overreacting and didn’t press charges. Perfect job by him. I wouldn’t have done anything different if I was him in that scenario, at least I hope not.

Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 03:10:28 PM
the amazing thing is he never not once ever touched his face. incredible
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 28, 2022, 03:14:13 PM
Will smith on the other hand? Woof. I would’ve done a lot of different things there if it were me and it would’ve started with not hitting a nearly 60 year old comedian who was just doing what he was told to do and who also happens to be half my size.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Spracne on March 28, 2022, 03:17:04 PM
Will smith on the other hand? Woof. I would’ve done a lot of different things there if it were me and it would’ve started with not hitting a nearly 60 year old comedian who was just doing what he was told to do and who also happens to be half my size.

You appear to feel VERY passionately about this.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Trim on March 28, 2022, 03:17:47 PM
I don't see how will and jada can take offense to anything said to or about them at this point in life.  They are proud and public corny weirdos.

If written for him, chris rock should've seen it was kind of lame and done a much better joke about them and/or joked about someone more interesting in the audience.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2022, 03:21:36 PM
If written for him, chris rock should've seen it was kind of lame and done a much better joke about them and/or joked about someone more interesting in the audience.

yeah I'm pretty sure chris rock has veto power when it comes to jokes written for him
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2022, 03:21:49 PM
I don't see how will and jada can take offense to anything said to or about them at this point in life.  They are proud and public corny weirdos.

If written for him, chris rock should've seen it was kind of lame and done a much better joke about them and/or joked about someone more interesting in the audience.

I don't think that's how being a human being works.

Has Rock or his people made any comment on this yet? It's all v fascinating.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 28, 2022, 03:26:55 PM
I don't see how will and jada can take offense to anything said to or about them at this point in life.  They are proud and public corny weirdos.

If written for him, chris rock should've seen it was kind of lame and done a much better joke about them and/or joked about someone more interesting in the audience.

In a perfect world, sure. His joke about Javier and Penelope Cruz immediately before it was even lamer. “The ol’ ball and chain! Amirite U guys?” I’m assuming he just showed up and said whatever they had written for him just like everyone else did.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Trim on March 28, 2022, 03:34:06 PM
I don't see how will and jada can take offense to anything said to or about them at this point in life. 

I don't think that's how being a human being works.

It's part of doing whatever you want.  The rest of the world might thing that doing those things is rough ridin' weird and will talk bad about you and/or tell jokes about you.  Here the talking bad/joking should've been about more lol stuff than her hair or lack thereof.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Trim on March 28, 2022, 03:35:56 PM
I don't see how will and jada can take offense to anything said to or about them at this point in life.  They are proud and public corny weirdos.

If written for him, chris rock should've seen it was kind of lame and done a much better joke about them and/or joked about someone more interesting in the audience.

In a perfect world, sure. His joke about Javier and Penelope Cruz immediately before it was even lamer. “The ol’ ball and chain! Amirite U guys?” I’m assuming he just showed up and said whatever they had written for him just like everyone else did.

I'd be interested in how that works and what the pay is.  If I was chris rock or any comedian whose brand is defined by being funny, it'd take an outrageous amount of money for me to tell someone else's crappier jokes.

For non-comedians, yeah, just read the script written by people theoretically funnier.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 28, 2022, 03:45:59 PM
lots of great tweets out there but my favorite was something like chris is lucky all the dudes banging jada didn't also rush the stage

These "jokes" are also problematic. I don't know what them, at one time, having an opening relationship has anything to do her now having alopecia and the appropriateness of joking about it. She's mocked for getting it in, I haven't seen a single joke or mockery about Will doing the same with Margot Robbie and others. This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?

It is not the jokes, it is Will battering another person on stage over a very bad joke based on some defense of his wife and their marriage, which is at the very least, in the public eye, less than one based on faithfulness.  I am sure there is a lot of "you don't know what really happened" to this but they made money off of telling the public about screwing other people you have to expect that the next time you intend to defend your wife's virtue most of us will rightfully roll our eyes.  Especially if you think you are entitled to literally commit battery.

If a maga from the crowd had stormed the stagge and socked Rock over a maga joke, we are having a different convo
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2022, 03:48:20 PM
Agree that the joke also could’ve been cut for just being terrible. At it’s absolute best, it’s forgettable.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 03:51:41 PM
MakeItRain, have you ever considered not debating with extreme passion every single thing that happens in the entire world and universe and multiverse?

Have you ever considered why you think I am debating any more passionately than the other dozen people posting about this? Should I take your tact? Act like I'm above it all then follow up with multiple passive aggressive posts?

This is a message board, it exists for discussing topics. I can assure you that I won't have a single conversation about a live human about this, other than "did you see Will Smith? yeah it was wild, how about those peacocks!" I don't care enough. People get slapped or punched every single day for saying stupid crap. I'm not the one who thinks anything at all should happen other than these three people hashing it out.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2022, 03:56:53 PM
I don't see how will and jada can take offense to anything said to or about them at this point in life.  They are proud and public corny weirdos.

If written for him, chris rock should've seen it was kind of lame and done a much better joke about them and/or joked about someone more interesting in the audience.

I don't think that's how being a human being works.

Has Rock or his people made any comment on this yet? It's all v fascinating.

It’s how being a celebrity works.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2022, 03:57:22 PM
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Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 04:08:03 PM
lots of great tweets out there but my favorite was something like chris is lucky all the dudes banging jada didn't also rush the stage

These "jokes" are also problematic. I don't know what them, at one time, having an opening relationship has anything to do her now having alopecia and the appropriateness of joking about it. She's mocked for getting it in, I haven't seen a single joke or mockery about Will doing the same with Margot Robbie and others. This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?

It is not the jokes, it is Will battering another person on stage over a very bad joke based on some defense of his wife and their marriage, which is at the very least, in the public eye, less than one based on faithfulness.  I am sure there is a lot of "you don't know what really happened" to this but they made money off of telling the public about screwing other people you have to expect that the next time you intend to defend your wife's virtue most of us will rightfully roll our eyes.  Especially if you think you are entitled to literally commit battery.

If a maga from the crowd had stormed the stagge and socked Rock over a maga joke, we are having a different convo

I literally cannot make the connection about them, at one time, or even now, having an open relationship, with Will Smith's capacity to take a joke about his wife without slapping someone. I can't figure out what one has to do with the other. It was her choice to sleep with that man, it was his choice to slap Chris Rock in the face for what he deemed was a tasteless joke. Ones possible indifference to sexual proclivities doesn't connote an ability to get pissed about anything. Me letting someone call me a porch monkey 30 years ago, without repercussion, doesn't mean you can call me a coon or my wife a mud shark in 2022.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 28, 2022, 04:10:16 PM
I don't see how will and jada can take offense to anything said to or about them at this point in life.  They are proud and public corny weirdos.

If written for him, chris rock should've seen it was kind of lame and done a much better joke about them and/or joked about someone more interesting in the audience.

I don't think that's how being a human being works.

Has Rock or his people made any comment on this yet? It's all v fascinating.

It’s how being a celebrity works.

lol no
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: bucket on March 28, 2022, 04:11:11 PM
They were both wrong. Will more so than Chris.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 04:12:06 PM
I don't see how will and jada can take offense to anything said to or about them at this point in life.  They are proud and public corny weirdos.

If written for him, chris rock should've seen it was kind of lame and done a much better joke about them and/or joked about someone more interesting in the audience.

I don't think that's how being a human being works.

Has Rock or his people made any comment on this yet? It's all v fascinating.

It’s how being a celebrity works.

lol no

What? Achieving some sort of fame doesn't shut down your emotions and improves your decision making?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 04:16:01 PM
I have never heard of mud shark. What an insane term, is that real? (this post made possible by white priv)
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: star seed 7 on March 28, 2022, 04:27:05 PM
A new one for me as well
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 28, 2022, 04:30:10 PM
Years of shitty K-State sports and increased traffic to "The Pit" have taken its toll on this blog.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 04:35:24 PM
I have never heard of mud shark. What an insane term, is that real? (this post made possible by white priv)

unfortunately, yes.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2022, 04:50:49 PM
Years of shitty K-State sports and increased traffic to "The Pit" have taken its toll on this blog.

Yes, it’s hard to keep the pit in the pit these days. Even this thread has a more serious, pit-type tone to it. I’m guilty itt. Really this is something we should all just be laughing at, which is probably exactly what Chris Rock and his comedian buddies are doing rn. <———- regardless of what he decides to say publicly.

The incident was bizarre and funny.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 04:56:20 PM
It's one of the funnier things to ever happen on live tv. The joke was over the line (in my opinion) and the slap was over the line to the same degree (in my opinion). Amazing spectacle though
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2022, 05:12:23 PM
It's one of the funnier things to ever happen on live tv. The joke was over the line (in my opinion) and the slap was over the line to the same degree (in my opinion). Amazing spectacle though

the same degree?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 28, 2022, 05:43:22 PM
Made me actually look up Oscars when I did not intend to this year.  Which is not a comment on the Oscars but more my movie watching in 21-22
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 28, 2022, 05:44:52 PM
It's one of the funnier things to ever happen on live tv. The joke was over the line (in my opinion) and the slap was over the line to the same degree (in my opinion). Amazing spectacle though

It was funny?  And the joke was over the line?? 

It was a bad joke and a pathetic response by someone who is woke as hell.  I've read multiple articles that blame Trump for this.  While I don't totally disagree with some of those articles, this is much more about a society who can't laugh at anything anymore (not that it was funny).
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Kat Kid on March 28, 2022, 05:49:42 PM
Will smith on the other hand? Woof. I would’ve done a lot of different things there if it were me and it would’ve started with not hitting a nearly 60 year old comedian who was just doing what he was told to do and who also happens to be half my size.
I guess it is possible Vern Troyer would say something mean to you but otherwise might be tough.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2022, 05:49:59 PM
It's one of the funnier things to ever happen on live tv. The joke was over the line (in my opinion) and the slap was over the line to the same degree (in my opinion). Amazing spectacle though

It was funny?  And the joke was over the line?? 

It was a bad joke and a pathetic response by someone who is woke as hell.  I've read multiple articles that blame Trump for this.  While I don't totally disagree with some of those articles, this is much more about a society who can't laugh at anything anymore (not that it was funny).

Please post any of the article that blame trump for this, TIA.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 28, 2022, 05:55:36 PM
Mods-Please move to the Pit.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 28, 2022, 05:57:03 PM
It's one of the funnier things to ever happen on live tv. The joke was over the line (in my opinion) and the slap was over the line to the same degree (in my opinion). Amazing spectacle though

It was funny?  And the joke was over the line?? 

It was a bad joke and a pathetic response by someone who is woke as hell.  I've read multiple articles that blame Trump for this.  While I don't totally disagree with some of those articles, this is much more about a society who can't laugh at anything anymore (not that it was funny).

Please post any of the article that blame trump for this, TIA.

Really>?  There are tons...
https://www.outkick.com/will-smith-chris-rock-trump-stern/ (https://www.outkick.com/will-smith-chris-rock-trump-stern/)
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 28, 2022, 05:57:30 PM
Mods-Please move to the Pit.

 :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2022, 05:59:02 PM
It's one of the funnier things to ever happen on live tv. The joke was over the line (in my opinion) and the slap was over the line to the same degree (in my opinion). Amazing spectacle though

It was funny?  And the joke was over the line?? 

It was a bad joke and a pathetic response by someone who is woke as hell.  I've read multiple articles that blame Trump for this.  While I don't totally disagree with some of those articles, this is much more about a society who can't laugh at anything anymore (not that it was funny).

Please post any of the article that blame trump for this, TIA.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/will-smith-oscars-slap-political-takes-1328936/amp/

The trump stuff is near the end
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2022, 06:00:37 PM
Ugh, what trash.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 28, 2022, 06:17:09 PM
Will smith on the other hand? Woof. I would’ve done a lot of different things there if it were me and it would’ve started with not hitting a nearly 60 year old comedian who was just doing what he was told to do and who also happens to be half my size.
I guess it is possible Vern Troyer would say something mean to you but otherwise might be tough.

Oh man was not ready for this  :lol:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: star seed 7 on March 28, 2022, 06:20:05 PM
It's one of the funnier things to ever happen on live tv. The joke was over the line (in my opinion) and the slap was over the line to the same degree (in my opinion). Amazing spectacle though

It was funny?  And the joke was over the line?? 

It was a bad joke and a pathetic response by someone who is woke as hell.  I've read multiple articles that blame Trump for this.  While I don't totally disagree with some of those articles, this is much more about a society who can't laugh at anything anymore (not that it was funny).

This post is all over the place but I think we can all all agree that takes that shoehorn in "woke" can be thrown in the trash with the rest of the politics first garbage.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 06:23:35 PM
It's one of the funnier things to ever happen on live tv. The joke was over the line (in my opinion) and the slap was over the line to the same degree (in my opinion). Amazing spectacle though

It was funny?  And the joke was over the line?? 

It was a bad joke and a pathetic response by someone who is woke as hell.  I've read multiple articles that blame Trump for this.  While I don't totally disagree with some of those articles, this is much more about a society who can't laugh at anything anymore (not that it was funny).

This post is all over the place but I think we can all all agree that takes that shoehorn in "woke" can be thrown in the trash with the rest of the politics first garbage.
pw simultaneously said the slap wasn't funny and then decried that society can't laugh at anything anymore
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Kat Kid on March 28, 2022, 06:24:21 PM
Will smith on the other hand? Woof. I would’ve done a lot of different things there if it were me and it would’ve started with not hitting a nearly 60 year old comedian who was just doing what he was told to do and who also happens to be half my size.
I guess it is possible Vern Troyer would say something mean to you but otherwise might be tough.

Oh man was not ready for this  :lol:
Are you mad daris? What are you going to slap me?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: chum1 on March 28, 2022, 06:34:45 PM
It sure appears that the people who were complaining about taking a political angle on this issue were the ones who got it moved to the pit. Pretty lol.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 06:34:59 PM
It's one of the funnier things to ever happen on live tv. The joke was over the line (in my opinion) and the slap was over the line to the same degree (in my opinion). Amazing spectacle though

It was funny?  And the joke was over the line?? 

It was a bad joke and a pathetic response by someone who is woke as hell.  I've read multiple articles that blame Trump for this.  While I don't totally disagree with some of those articles, this is much more about a society who can't laugh at anything anymore (not that it was funny).

I was wondering why this got pit'd. Some people just can't help themselves.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Trim on March 28, 2022, 06:43:11 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 28, 2022, 06:52:58 PM
Will smith on the other hand? Woof. I would’ve done a lot of different things there if it were me and it would’ve started with not hitting a nearly 60 year old comedian who was just doing what he was told to do and who also happens to be half my size.
I guess it is possible Vern Troyer would say something mean to you but otherwise might be tough.

KK chose violence
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2022, 06:53:55 PM
https://twitter.com/mcswoof/status/1508318145169211397?s=21
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 28, 2022, 07:07:26 PM
It's one of the funnier things to ever happen on live tv. The joke was over the line (in my opinion) and the slap was over the line to the same degree (in my opinion). Amazing spectacle though

It was funny?  And the joke was over the line?? 

It was a bad joke and a pathetic response by someone who is woke as hell.  I've read multiple articles that blame Trump for this.  While I don't totally disagree with some of those articles, this is much more about a society who can't laugh at anything anymore (not that it was funny).

This post is all over the place but I think we can all all agree that takes that shoehorn in "woke" can be thrown in the trash with the rest of the politics first garbage.
pw simultaneously said the slap wasn't funny and then decried that society can't laugh at anything anymore

You're pretty slow huh?  Will Smith slapping Chris Rock is not funny.  This happened because Chris Rock told a bad joke and it made Smith mad..  This wouldn't have happened if  Smith just continued to laugh it off like he was.. 
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 28, 2022, 09:10:24 PM
https://twitter.com/LilNasX/status/1508504927273828353?t=8LWfMf1OEyJB39-5rUIUDA&s=19
Title: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 28, 2022, 09:37:32 PM
Twitter is for people that can’t think for there self


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Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 28, 2022, 09:38:23 PM
That being said check this funny crap from the gram (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220329/21cb2f6b98b7becedb90e65d38e639d8.jpg)


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Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: catastrophe on March 28, 2022, 09:51:35 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/wgkPy8pGP6UAAAAC/true-its-true.gif)
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2022, 10:03:32 PM
https://twitter.com/LilNasX/status/1508504927273828353?t=8LWfMf1OEyJB39-5rUIUDA&s=19

Magnificent
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 29, 2022, 08:39:24 AM
happy tuesday everyone let's get this thing warmed up

https://twitter.com/DavidSpade/status/1508678901609885698?s=20&t=u9uhs3-LrebOc2cXPCUImw
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on March 29, 2022, 08:41:14 AM
https://twitter.com/ThePopPunkDad/status/1508570227113611265?s=20&t=u9uhs3-LrebOc2cXPCUImw
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 29, 2022, 08:56:40 AM
Got his ass.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: catastrophe on March 29, 2022, 09:08:06 AM
#WillSmithAssault
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 29, 2022, 09:14:14 AM
Got his ass.

 :bitchslap: (ftp://:bitchslap:). <----- :horrorsurprise: (ftp://:horrorsurprise:)
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: catastrophe on March 29, 2022, 09:40:20 AM
https://youtu.be/Uy3Anz1qYes
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: DQ12 on March 29, 2022, 09:54:51 AM
Will Smith slapping Chris Rock is not funny.
i disagree
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 29, 2022, 01:42:22 PM
https://twitter.com/ThePopPunkDad/status/1508570227113611265?s=20&t=u9uhs3-LrebOc2cXPCUImw

I bet when this jackass tweeted this he had the most smug look on his face, really felt like he did something.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Trim on March 29, 2022, 04:27:58 PM
Expert analysis:

https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32/status/1508915293111963648
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 29, 2022, 04:29:32 PM
It would have been better if Will had just choked him out on stage.  cc: @Trim
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on March 29, 2022, 04:59:22 PM
Expert analysis:

https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32/status/1508915293111963648

https://youtu.be/J8TqhBIEbWA
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Trim on March 29, 2022, 05:07:13 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 29, 2022, 11:22:35 PM
https://twitter.com/b_powell89/status/1508447630153732105?s=21&t=mjjP7FsCSIqH1sH-7zIeHA
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 30, 2022, 08:50:02 AM
Dave Chappelle never would have gone after the bald wife when the son who wears dresses is available.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: catastrophe on March 30, 2022, 08:55:05 AM
And also Will wouldn’t have tried to slap Chappelle
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 30, 2022, 09:08:12 AM
TIL chris rock did not actually host the oscars but was just a presenter  :lol:
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 30, 2022, 09:08:55 AM
 :lol:

https://twitter.com/hrkbenowen/status/1508440973705101317?s=20&t=WXn5m2-aDJ2NfWxOAnn7ZA
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: mocat on March 30, 2022, 09:23:13 AM
the takes this week did not disappoint
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Tobias on March 30, 2022, 09:26:31 AM
it's a nuclear arms race to the most absurd takes
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 30, 2022, 10:21:36 AM
And also Will wouldn’t have tried to slap Chappelle

The list of people that will wouldn’t have slapped is a mile long. That’s why it was wrong. It’s kind of like if you have to look around before you tell a joke then you probably shouldn’t tell it. You shouldn’t have to be selective with your words or actions if you’re living life right and there’s no way will was walking onto stage to slap Liam Hemsworth or Jason Mamoa or Tom Hanks or Steven Spielberg. He slapped someone who he could get away with slapping and not have any real repercussions.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: CNS on March 30, 2022, 10:24:19 AM
And also Will wouldn’t have tried to slap Chappelle

The list of people that will wouldn’t have slapped is a mile long. That’s why it was wrong. It’s kind of like if you have to look around before you tell a joke then you probably shouldn’t tell it. You shouldn’t have to be selective with your words or actions if you’re living life right and there’s no way will was walking onto stage to slap Liam Hemsworth or Jason Mamoa or Tom Hanks or Steven Spielberg. He slapped someone who he could get away with slapping and not have any real repercussions.

Literally punching down. 
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 30, 2022, 01:04:30 PM
Bill Murray would have whipped Bagger Vance's ass
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Cire on March 30, 2022, 01:34:47 PM
Can't imagine really caring about this. 

Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2022, 01:44:09 PM
Can't imagine really caring about this. 



it's pretty unprecedented and fascinating. I wouldn't say I "care" but definitely think it's interesting.
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: Cire on March 30, 2022, 01:46:22 PM
I mean, if any of us were at a work event and someone slapped a coworker, everyone would be aghast right?
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: 'taterblast on April 08, 2022, 02:17:22 PM
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1512509315550175237?s=20&t=aueVdua0UZVw27_yg3xKkA
Title: Re: I neither like nor dislike the Oscars
Post by: MakeItRain on April 08, 2022, 09:04:40 PM
 :jerk: