I neither like nor dislike the Oscars

[mocat]

it is not ok to make fun of someone (especially female) for having alopecia

that said, Will laughed at the joke until he caught the laser eyes. this is probably more to do with chris rock going after jada at the 2016 oscars, and of course all the bizarre stuff with Will and Jada and other dudes, and Will claiming he pukes when he orgasms, etc. lots of weird stuff simmering under the surface.

[chum1]

I don't like when rich and famous people get away with stuff the rest of us wouldn't. On top of that, the person in this case has to be WILL SMITH?? Like, it's one thing for people to be like "let's give De Niro a pass." But WILL SMITH!?!? Yuck.

Ultimately, though, it's just hair loss and it's just a slap. They'll all survive.

[Pete]

I think we all know that will smith’s bitch ass would not have walked onto the stage if the person standing there was the rock Duane Johnson and not Chris rock the comedian. The fresh prince is quite the tough guy though when someone is half a foot shorter and 80 pounds lighter than him. 

THIS

[mocat]

if this happened at someone's house nobody would be kicked out. there is a line between open hand / closed fist. i mean the audience laughed when it happened.

[Pete]

if this happened at someone's house nobody would be kicked out. there is a line between open hand / closed fist. i mean the audience laughed when it happened.

The audience assumed it was fake.

[Rage Against the McKee]

It's weird to me because they are both old-ass men in their 50s. I guess it makes sense from Chris Rock's side (joke about a 90s movie, shrug the slap off, etc.) but it really makes you wonder about Will Smith's mental health.

[Pete]

Will Smith is definitely the one walking away from this looking ridiculous.

['taterblast]

before this all went down i watched Will on CBS Sunday Morning a couple weeks ago and made the comment that he seemed off

[Pete]

Chris Rock should have pressed charges. 

[Kat Kid]

Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.

['taterblast]

Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or made any choice that she wanted. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.

same energy

[CHONGS]

I've never slapped anyone in the face (yet). 

[catastrophe]

it is not ok to make fun of someone (especially female) for having alopecia

I don’t think you can make a blanket statement like this. First of all, circumstances matter. I agree Rock shouldn’t (and he wouldn’t) yell a comment like that across the red carpet or something if he saw her. But this isn’t that. People go to award shows hosted by comedians expecting to get roasted. It was clearly not a mean spirited joke like some tend to be.

Second, I disagree with setting some kind of line where we can make fun of things that are the result of choices vs. medical conditions. Is it ok to make fun of a fat person who overeats out of depression (or sheer laziness) but not a person with a thyroid issue? I personally would take less offense to people making fun of aspects of my life I have no control over. In that case at least it’s clearly not a judgment about you or your character.

[mocat]

if this happened at someone's house nobody would be kicked out. there is a line between open hand / closed fist. i mean the audience laughed when it happened.

The audience assumed it was fake.

exactly!

[mocat]

it is not ok to make fun of someone (especially female) for having alopecia

I don’t think you can make a blanket statement like this. First of all, circumstances matter. I agree Rock shouldn’t (and he wouldn’t) yell a comment like that across the red carpet or something if he saw her. But this isn’t that. People go to award shows hosted by comedians expecting to get roasted. It was clearly not a mean spirited joke like some tend to be.

Second, I disagree with setting some kind of line where we can make fun of things that are the result of choices vs. medical conditions. Is it ok to make fun of a fat person who overeats out of depression (or sheer laziness) but not a person with a thyroid issue? I personally would take less offense to people making fun of aspects of my life I have no control over. In that case at least it’s clearly not a judgment about you or your character.

well i absolutely think that is a clear and obvious line of distinction in terms of what you can/can't make fun of someone for

[mocat]

before this all went down i watched Will on CBS Sunday Morning a couple weeks ago and made the comment that he seemed off

yeah he is probably not well

[Pete]

I mean, we have laws against violence.  We do not have laws about hurtful hair loss comments.  Our society seems to be pretty OK with saying that assault and battery is not an acceptable response to a verbal insult. That's well settled, right?

[catastrophe]

Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.

Agree with this and worth emphasizing that “disability” is a huge category and many adult disabled people don’t need someone to stand up for them, they just need a platform to make people listen. This is the opposite of that.

[mocat]

Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.

i'm pretty sure jada eyeballed Will onto the stage but i haven't seen direct video evidence of this

[Pete]

if this happened at someone's house nobody would be kicked out. there is a line between open hand / closed fist. i mean the audience laughed when it happened.

The audience assumed it was fake.

exactly!

wut?

They laughed, not because of the nature of the strike, but because they thought it was a comedic bit.  They didn't laugh because slapping is hilarious.

[catastrophe]

it is not ok to make fun of someone (especially female) for having alopecia

I don’t think you can make a blanket statement like this. First of all, circumstances matter. I agree Rock shouldn’t (and he wouldn’t) yell a comment like that across the red carpet or something if he saw her. But this isn’t that. People go to award shows hosted by comedians expecting to get roasted. It was clearly not a mean spirited joke like some tend to be.

Second, I disagree with setting some kind of line where we can make fun of things that are the result of choices vs. medical conditions. Is it ok to make fun of a fat person who overeats out of depression (or sheer laziness) but not a person with a thyroid issue? I personally would take less offense to people making fun of aspects of my life I have no control over. In that case at least it’s clearly not a judgment about you or your character.

well i absolutely think that is a clear and obvious line of distinction in terms of what you can/can't make fun of someone for

What about genetics? Why is that different than a medical condition? You’re saying it’s not ok to make fun of Kevin Hart for being short but you could make fun of him for cheating on his wife (as an example; I have no clue).

[Pete]

I think the lesson here is that open relationships usually end up in a crap show.

[star seed 7]

In a comedic context, slapping is absolutely hilarious.

[mocat]

if this happened at someone's house nobody would be kicked out. there is a line between open hand / closed fist. i mean the audience laughed when it happened.

The audience assumed it was fake.

exactly!

wut?

They laughed, not because of the nature of the strike, but because they thought it was a comedic bit.  They didn't laugh because slapping is hilarious.

I disagree. Slapping is objectively hilarious

[catastrophe]

In a comedic context, slapping is absolutely hilarious.

I actually think it would have been pretty good if Will did the slap but pulled it a little bit, sat back down, and didn’t say another word. That would have been both funny and sent a clear message without looking unhinged.