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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: Dirty Sanchez on February 20, 2011, 08:17:10 AM
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Currently in 6th, but still a giant clusterfuck in the standings. Tied with baylor and corn record-wise. Can still get a first rd bye.
Upcoming schedules
baylor--@mu, @osu, aTm, texas
corn--KSU, mu, @isu, @cu
misery--baylor, uk, @KSU, @corn
KSU--@corn, @texas, mu, isu
The corn (yes, really) and misery games are huge for us . I see baylor falling back. That schedule's just too tough.
Now here's your "take that bracket and run" thought. KSU gets 4th, corn 5th. We get a first rd bye to play the winner of corn/iowa st. :emawkid:
#2 Texas 11-1 -- 23-4
#1 Kansas 10-2 1 25-2
#17 Texas A&M 8-4 3 21-5
#21 Missouri 7-5 4 21-6
Nebraska 6-6 5 18-8
Kansas State 6-6 5 18-9
Baylor 6-6 5 17-9
Colorado 5-7 6 16-11
Oklahoma State 4-8 7 16-10
Oklahoma 4-8 7 12-14
Texas Tech 4-8 7 12-15
Iowa State 1-11 10 14-13
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Nubb will beat us
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Nubb will beat us
this must not happen
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Nubb will beat us
No.
Actually, they might beat us.
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Nubb will beat us
this must not happen
NU will be tough. I will be there. Last trip to Lincoln and likely the final time against Doc, will be a little bittersweet.
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jfc if NU is the #4 seed. Goddamn home loss to CU. And really, two games, CU at home and the UNLV game are what have us on the bubble. So Dillards can go ahead and eat a pallet of dicks. NU is going to beat us. Sucks but they are. We're going to need two wins in the conf tourney to get in, imo.
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jfc if NU is the #4 seed. Goddamn home loss to CU. And really, two games, CU at home and the UNLV game are what have us on the bubble. So Dillards can go ahead and eat a pallet of dicks. NU is going to beat us. Sucks but they are. We're going to need two wins in the conf tourney to get in, imo.
The bubble appears to be extra shitty this year....which could help
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The committee will likely ignore the UNLV loss, but yes, the CU losses are bad. So is the OSU loss.
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Time to bust out the yearly link
http://www.notnothing.net/bball/b12mbb.php
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It looks like 4/5/6 will be a MU/KSU/NU mix. Our next two games are huge, win both and 4th is likely.
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It looks like 4/5/6 will be a MU/KSU/NU mix. Our next two games are huge, win both and 4th is likely.
I'm going to nu too, but we will lose. Our one conference road win is against the mayor by a single point. NU has a single home loss to ku. :bawl:
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It looks like 4/5/6 will be a MU/KSU/NU mix. Our next two games are huge, win both and 4th is likely.
I'm going to nu too, but we will lose. Our one conference road win is against the mayor by a single point. NU has a single home loss to ku. :bawl:
Get drunk and be a crazed, hateful wolf and make sure we don't lose. Also, pay for _FAN's beers.
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Hopefully, Nebraska doesn't handle success well, having never before experienced it. Any DUI news out of Lincoln this morning?
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Hopefully, Nebraska doesn't handle success well, having never before experienced it. Any DUI news out of Lincoln this morning?
:crossfingers: that's what i'm counting on.
just like bobby said amid all his ramblings on monday, human nature is a fierce opponent (or something like that)..
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Seems like bubble teams with a little star power have an edge, remember the Beasley year, this year the beard carries us through even at 8-8.
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Seems like bubble teams with a little star power have an edge, remember the Beasley year, this year the beard carries us through even at 8-8.
I would rather mu not be a must win. and even with wins against mu, isu we still need to win our first tourney game or we aren't guaranteed crap.
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Even with Saturday I haven't seen anything that makes me feel like you guys do about going up to Lincoln. Nubbs don't worry me nearly as much as mizzou
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Even with Saturday I haven't seen anything that makes me feel like you guys do about going up to Lincoln. Nubbs don't worry me nearly as much as mizzou
I thought the same thing until I looked at how many times we've won at Nebraska over the past 4 years, compared to how many times we've won against Missouri in the OOD.
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Seems like bubble teams with a little star power have an edge, remember the Beasley year, this year the beard carries us through even at 8-8.
I would rather mu not be a must win. and even with wins against mu, isu we still need to win our first tourney game or we aren't guaranteed crap.
If we beat NU and MU I guarantee our NCAA spot.
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Even with Saturday I haven't seen anything that makes me feel like you guys do about going up to Lincoln. Nubbs don't worry me nearly as much as mizzou
I thought the same thing until I looked at how many times we've won at Nebraska over the past 4 years, compared to how many times we've won against Missouri in the OOD.
As long as they don't have Maric or his equivalent, I'm feeling good.
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We could lose @ NU and still get a bye by the skin of our teeth. KenPom has Nubb going 8-8, which would likely entail splitting the MU and @ISU games. If NU beats MU in Lincoln (52% win prob.) and loses to ISU in Ames (51% win prob.), and KenPom's other projections hold, we get the bye. Here's the bracket generator output:
1. Texas (15 - 1)
2. Kansas (14 - 2)
3. Texas A&M (10 - 6)
4. Kansas State (8 - 8) With Missouri, defeated Nebraska based on North Division record. Defeated Missouri based on record against #1 North Division teams.
5. Missouri (8 - 8) With Kansas State, defeated Nebraska based on North Division record. Lost to Kansas State based on record against #1 North Division teams. Defeated Nebraska based on North Division record.
6. Nebraska (8 - 8) Lost to Kansas State and Missouri based on North Division record. Lost to Missouri based on North Division record.
7. Baylor (7 - 9) Defeated Colorado based on head-to-head record.
8. Colorado (7 - 9) Lost to Baylor based on head-to-head record.
9. Oklahoma State (6 - 10)
10. Texas Tech (5 - 11) Defeated Oklahoma based on record against #2 North Division teams.
11. Oklahoma (5 - 11) Lost to Texas Tech based on record against #2 North Division teams.
12. Iowa State (3 - 13)
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The more I look at teams on the bubble, the more it seems that an 8-8 finish puts us in, considering our SOS and RPI. We're all but guaranteed 1 W in the conf tourney if we get the 11 or 12 seed in the 1st round.
It appears NU has the most favorable schedule remaining of the 4 battling out for the 1st round bye. Crazy to think the Huskers could make the big dance. Nothing about that team, from just watching them, has me thinking NCAA worthy, but their resume continues to improve.
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We won't lose to NU. Mizzou....not so sure.
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I agree with _foo.
NU won't be "easy" but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Mizzou will keep me up a few nights though. :ohno:
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I agree with _foo.
NU won't be "easy" but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Mizzou will keep me up a few nights though. :ohno:
complete dumbasses.
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We'll see come saturday.
If I'm wrong, I'll admit it.
If you're wrong, you can suck my balls.
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We won't lose to NU. Mizzou....not so sure.
opposite
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3 more wins and we are in.
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10-6 :emawkid:
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We could lose @ NU and still get a bye by the skin of our teeth. KenPom has Nubb going 8-8, which would likely entail splitting the MU and @ISU games. If NU beats MU in Lincoln (52% win prob.) and loses to ISU in Ames (51% win prob.), and KenPom's other projections hold, we get the bye. Here's the bracket generator output:
1. Texas (15 - 1)
2. Kansas (14 - 2)
3. Texas A&M (10 - 6)
4. Kansas State (8 - 8) With Missouri, defeated Nebraska based on North Division record. Defeated Missouri based on record against #1 North Division teams.
5. Missouri (8 - 8) With Kansas State, defeated Nebraska based on North Division record. Lost to Kansas State based on record against #1 North Division teams. Defeated Nebraska based on North Division record.
6. Nebraska (8 - 8) Lost to Kansas State and Missouri based on North Division record. Lost to Missouri based on North Division record.
7. Baylor (7 - 9) Defeated Colorado based on head-to-head record.
8. Colorado (7 - 9) Lost to Baylor based on head-to-head record.
9. Oklahoma State (6 - 10)
10. Texas Tech (5 - 11) Defeated Oklahoma based on record against #2 North Division teams.
11. Oklahoma (5 - 11) Lost to Texas Tech based on record against #2 North Division teams.
12. Iowa State (3 - 13)
I think that there is a very good possibility that this happens. I am as optimistic as ever... WE WILL GET THAT 4 SEED!!!! :emawkid:
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Mizzou has been crap on the road
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Mizzou has been crap on the road
1 conf road win. same as nu & ksu. baylor has two.
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We'll see come saturday.
If I'm wrong, I'll admit it.
If you're wrong, you can suck my balls.
Yep
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Seems like bubble teams with a little star power have an edge, remember the Beasley year, this year the beard carries us through even at 8-8.
I would rather mu not be a must win. and even with wins against mu, isu we still need to win our first tourney game or we aren't guaranteed cac.
If we beat NU and MU I guarantee our NCAA spot.
Big words from a Runza employee..
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Mizzou has been crap on the road
1 conf road win. same as nu & ksu. baylor has two.
Never forget the Cats have 30 seconds of a second road win.
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We could lose @ NU and still get a bye by the skin of our teeth. KenPom has Nubb going 8-8, which would likely entail splitting the MU and @ISU games. If NU beats MU in Lincoln (52% win prob.) and loses to ISU in Ames (51% win prob.), and KenPom's other projections hold, we get the bye. Here's the bracket generator output:
1. Texas (15 - 1)
2. Kansas (14 - 2)
3. Texas A&M (10 - 6)
4. Kansas State (8 - 8) With Missouri, defeated Nebraska based on North Division record. Defeated Missouri based on record against #1 North Division teams.
5. Missouri (8 - 8) With Kansas State, defeated Nebraska based on North Division record. Lost to Kansas State based on record against #1 North Division teams. Defeated Nebraska based on North Division record.
6. Nebraska (8 - 8) Lost to Kansas State and Missouri based on North Division record. Lost to Missouri based on North Division record.
7. Baylor (7 - 9) Defeated Colorado based on head-to-head record.
8. Colorado (7 - 9) Lost to Baylor based on head-to-head record.
9. Oklahoma State (6 - 10)
10. Texas Tech (5 - 11) Defeated Oklahoma based on record against #2 North Division teams.
11. Oklahoma (5 - 11) Lost to Texas Tech based on record against #2 North Division teams.
12. Iowa State (3 - 13)
I think that there is a very good possibility that this happens. I am as optimistic as ever... WE WILL GET THAT 4 SEED!!!! :emawkid:
It's the most likely scenario:
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2011/2/21/2004474/big-12-outlook-02-21-11#storyjump
However, everything would still have to go just right. Much better to beat NU and get a little breathing room.
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No Wednesday!
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I don't think we will lose again until we get to the Big 12 Tournament.
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I don't think we will lose again until we get to the Big 12 Tournament.
If that happens...we go 3-1 in Big Monday games. One of the biggest shocks, after the team face-planted, of the season. (for me)
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Looks like us vs Miz for the 4. Smell ya later Baylor and Nub :lol:
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wierd. if i do the bracket projector as
KSU: MU(W), @UT(L), ISU(W)
MU: @KSU(L), @NU(L), KU(W) =>
4. Missouri (9 - 7) Defeated Kansas State based on record against #4 North Division teams.
but if i switch to
MU: @KSU(L), @NU(W), KU(L) =>
4. Kansas State (9 - 7) Defeated Missouri based on record against #1 North Division teams.
neither teams North records change. but swapping out the results for Missouri against KU and NU flips the seedings.
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wierd. if i do the bracket projector as
KSU: MU(W), @UT(L), ISU(W)
MU: @KSU(L), @NU(L), KU(W) =>
4. Missouri (9 - 7) Defeated Kansas State based on record against #4 North Division teams.
but if i switch to
MU: @KSU(L), @NU(W), KU(L) =>
4. Kansas State (9 - 7) Defeated Missouri based on record against #1 North Division teams.
neither teams North records change. but swapping out the results for Missouri against KU and NU flips the seedings.
Yeah because if they beat KU the tie breaker of record against the #1 team in the division would be the same 1-1 versus KU. Mizzou and KSU would finish 2nd & 3rd in this scenario so then you go to the record against the #4 team. In whatever you generated Nebraska finished behind Colorado for 4th. KSU was 0-2 versus CU and Mizzou was 1-1. Therefore the third to last tiebreaker would go to Mizzou. It is not very likely that the standings will finish with Colorado finishing 4th and KSU and Mizzou would have to use that tie breaker. As a matter of fact KSU, Mizzou, NU, and CU would have to win/lose an exact combination of games for this to play out. I'm no mathematician but I'm pretty sure there are still around 100 win combination possibilities for these four teams.
Also worth noting that Colorado and Nebraska are still very much alive for the 4 seed. Colorado will likely be eliminated on Saturday, Nebraska will need to win in Ames.
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We'll see come saturday.
If I'm wrong, I'll admit it.
If you're wrong, you can suck my balls.
Okay now, looks like someone owes me a ball sucking...
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Update
This week has really sorted things out. As mentioned above, its us and mizzou for #4. Looking at the schedules and tiebreakers, here's the breakdown:
KSU: @texas, iowa st.---despite our history with texas, I'm going conservative and say 1-1
mu: @nebraska, uk--I'd say at best 1-1. nebraska could be a trap game on the road, preparing for uk, and nebraska being a little angry at the iowa st loss.
Obviously, if we go 1-1 (or 2-0) and mizzou goes 0-2, we get the 4.
Now if we lose to texas and beat iowa st and mizzou beats nebraska and loses to uk. The tiebreakers go 1)head2head-split 2)division record-tied @6-4. 3)record against the top team in the division (uk)--Advantage KSU.
If we lose texas and win iowa st and mizzou loses to nebraska and beats uk, the same tiebreakers go until 3, when, if I'm reading it right, would go to common record against other division teams. uk/KSU/mu-tie. Then it would fall to colorado--Advantage mizzou.
The texas game is inconsequential if mizzou loses either game (I think they will lose either or both), because its a non-divisional game. Outside of NCAA resume's, the iowa st game is more important to us. Might be more to lose by losing to them than there is to gain beating texas.
Tiebreaker list:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1520897
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Be careful, fracking Colorado could blow us up. They have an opportunity to also finish 9-7 (@ISU, NU) and we could fall as low as #6 if we finish in a three-way tie with CU and MU.
:eek:
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so it seems like a three way tie would go cu 4. then kstate 5 if mu beats nu, kstate 6 if mu beats ku.
worth pointing out that a three way tie is highly unlikely, even though each individual game needed for the tie might appear fairly likely.
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Be careful, fracking Colorado could blow us up. They have an opportunity to also finish 9-7 (@ISU, NU) and we could fall as low as #6 if we finish in a three-way tie with CU and MU.
:eek:
scary
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dream scenario, obviously, is kstate gets the no-wed by 10-6ing, to play five seed cu.
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dream scenario, obviously, is kstate gets the no-wed by 10-6ing, to play five seed cu.
That would be amazing.
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Update
This week has really sorted things out. As mentioned above, its us and mizzou for #4. Looking at the schedules and tiebreakers, here's the breakdown:
KSU: @texas, iowa st.---despite our history with texas, I'm going conservative and say 1-1
mu: @nebraska, uk--I'd say at best 1-1. nebraska could be a trap game on the road, preparing for uk, and nebraska being a little angry at the iowa st loss.
Obviously, if we go 1-1 (or 2-0) and mizzou goes 0-2, we get the 4.
Now if we lose to texas and beat iowa st and mizzou beats nebraska and loses to uk. The tiebreakers go 1)head2head-split 2)division record-tied @6-4. 3)record against the top team in the division (uk)--Advantage KSU.
If we lose texas and win iowa st and mizzou loses to nebraska and beats uk, the same tiebreakers go until 3, when, if I'm reading it right, would go to common record against other division teams. uk/KSU/mu-tie. Then it would fall to colorado--Advantage mizzou.
The texas game is inconsequential if mizzou loses either game (I think they will lose either or both), because its a non-divisional game. Outside of NCAA resume's, the iowa st game is more important to us. Might be more to lose by losing to them than there is to gain beating texas.
Tiebreaker list:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1520897
This week cleared nothing up, Nebraska eliminated themselves, that's it. The CU win was a worst case scenario. Hell A&M could easily finish 6th and they've been third all season. This race is fun to watch, there are 13 games left and 11 of them have direct impact on the top 7 seeds. OU plays in both meaningless games. People who disparage basketballs regular season are idiots.
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dream scenario, obviously, is kstate gets the no-wed by 10-6ing, to play five seed cu.
But in this scenario, we would likely play KU again. That's assuming they win out.
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if 9-7 => :pray: 6 seed
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Update
This week has really sorted things out. As mentioned above, its us and mizzou for #4. Looking at the schedules and tiebreakers, here's the breakdown:
KSU: @texas, iowa st.---despite our history with texas, I'm going conservative and say 1-1
mu: @nebraska, uk--I'd say at best 1-1. nebraska could be a trap game on the road, preparing for uk, and nebraska being a little angry at the iowa st loss.
Obviously, if we go 1-1 (or 2-0) and mizzou goes 0-2, we get the 4.
Now if we lose to texas and beat iowa st and mizzou beats nebraska and loses to uk. The tiebreakers go 1)head2head-split 2)division record-tied @6-4. 3)record against the top team in the division (uk)--Advantage KSU.
If we lose texas and win iowa st and mizzou loses to nebraska and beats uk, the same tiebreakers go until 3, when, if I'm reading it right, would go to common record against other division teams. uk/KSU/mu-tie. Then it would fall to colorado--Advantage mizzou.
The texas game is inconsequential if mizzou loses either game (I think they will lose either or both), because its a non-divisional game. Outside of NCAA resume's, the iowa st game is more important to us. Might be more to lose by losing to them than there is to gain beating texas.
Tiebreaker list:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1520897
This week cleared nothing up, Nebraska eliminated themselves, that's it. The CU win was a worst case scenario. Hell A&M could easily finish 6th and they've been third all season. This race is fun to watch, there are 13 games left and 11 of them have direct impact on the top 7 seeds. OU plays in both meaningless games. People who disparage basketballs regular season are idiots.
Baylor also eliminated themselves. There were 5-6 teams in play for the 4 seed before this week. Its much easier to project now, so you could say it sorted itself out somewhat.
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Update
This week has really sorted things out. As mentioned above, its us and mizzou for #4. Looking at the schedules and tiebreakers, here's the breakdown:
KSU: @texas, iowa st.---despite our history with texas, I'm going conservative and say 1-1
mu: @nebraska, uk--I'd say at best 1-1. nebraska could be a trap game on the road, preparing for uk, and nebraska being a little angry at the iowa st loss.
Obviously, if we go 1-1 (or 2-0) and mizzou goes 0-2, we get the 4.
Now if we lose to texas and beat iowa st and mizzou beats nebraska and loses to uk. The tiebreakers go 1)head2head-split 2)division record-tied @6-4. 3)record against the top team in the division (uk)--Advantage KSU.
If we lose texas and win iowa st and mizzou loses to nebraska and beats uk, the same tiebreakers go until 3, when, if I'm reading it right, would go to common record against other division teams. uk/KSU/mu-tie. Then it would fall to colorado--Advantage mizzou.
The texas game is inconsequential if mizzou loses either game (I think they will lose either or both), because its a non-divisional game. Outside of NCAA resume's, the iowa st game is more important to us. Might be more to lose by losing to them than there is to gain beating texas.
Tiebreaker list:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1520897
This week cleared nothing up, Nebraska eliminated themselves, that's it. The CU win was a worst case scenario. Hell A&M could easily finish 6th and they've been third all season. This race is fun to watch, there are 13 games left and 11 of them have direct impact on the top 7 seeds. OU plays in both meaningless games. People who disparage basketballs regular season are idiots.
Baylor also eliminated themselves. There were 5-6 teams in play for the 4 seed before this week. Its much easier to project now, so you could say it sorted itself out somewhat.
This would be an excellent point if Baylor didn't still have a chance to finish T-3.
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if 9-7 => :pray: 6 seed
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Would rather have the 4 or 5 seed and then play CU and UT. I think we'd beat A&M, but I don't want to play KU again.
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6 seed => all 8:30 games :crossfingers:
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6 seed => friday night at sprint center: UT/MU then KU/KSU :love:
like it was supposed to be last year w/ the 3 locals in the semi finals.
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Would rather have the 4 or 5 seed and then play CU and UT. I think we'd beat A&M, but I don't want to play KU again.
that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). if kstate wins, you have to assume they're going to have play ut or ku. it's not like there's a secret, alternate bracketrun into the championship game.
no wed is the first priority, if that fails, then matching up with a&m is the 2nd preference. third priority is not back to backing isu.
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Would rather have the 4 or 5 seed and then play CU and UT. I think we'd beat A&M, but I don't want to play KU again.
that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). if kstate wins, you have to assume they're going to have play ut or ku. it's not like there's a secret, alternate bracketrun into the championship game.
no wed is the first priority, if that fails, then matching up with a&m is the 2nd preference. third priority is not back to backing isu.
I know we'd play either KU or UT, and I'd rather play UT than KU.
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I'd rather play UT than KU.
yeah, i figured that out from your previous post. that's why i called you a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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I'd rather play UT than KU.
yeah, i figured that out from your previous post. that's why i called you a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
So you'd rather play KU again?
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I'd rather play UT than KU.
yeah, i figured that out from your previous post. that's why i called you a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
So you'd rather play KU again?
if Tay is back in the starting lineup i might.
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So you'd rather play KU again?
don't care. the important things are no wed & play a&m. ku or ut is irrelevant.
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Update
This week has really sorted things out. As mentioned above, its us and mizzou for #4. Looking at the schedules and tiebreakers, here's the breakdown:
KSU: @texas, iowa st.---despite our history with texas, I'm going conservative and say 1-1
mu: @nebraska, uk--I'd say at best 1-1. nebraska could be a trap game on the road, preparing for uk, and nebraska being a little angry at the iowa st loss.
Obviously, if we go 1-1 (or 2-0) and mizzou goes 0-2, we get the 4.
Now if we lose to texas and beat iowa st and mizzou beats nebraska and loses to uk. The tiebreakers go 1)head2head-split 2)division record-tied @6-4. 3)record against the top team in the division (uk)--Advantage KSU.
If we lose texas and win iowa st and mizzou loses to nebraska and beats uk, the same tiebreakers go until 3, when, if I'm reading it right, would go to common record against other division teams. uk/KSU/mu-tie. Then it would fall to colorado--Advantage mizzou.
The texas game is inconsequential if mizzou loses either game (I think they will lose either or both), because its a non-divisional game. Outside of NCAA resume's, the iowa st game is more important to us. Might be more to lose by losing to them than there is to gain beating texas.
Tiebreaker list:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1520897
This week cleared nothing up, Nebraska eliminated themselves, that's it. The CU win was a worst case scenario. Hell A&M could easily finish 6th and they've been third all season. This race is fun to watch, there are 13 games left and 11 of them have direct impact on the top 7 seeds. OU plays in both meaningless games. People who disparage basketballs regular season are idiots.
Baylor also eliminated themselves. There were 5-6 teams in play for the 4 seed before this week. Its much easier to project now, so you could say it sorted itself out somewhat.
This would be an excellent point if Baylor didn't still have a chance to finish T-3.
Not only that but Baylor would have the tie breaker over A&M and KSU, CU, and Mizzou don't. If Baylor wins out their path to a bye is pretty easy, assuming Mizzou and KSU don't win out.
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Update
This week has really sorted things out. As mentioned above, its us and mizzou for #4. Looking at the schedules and tiebreakers, here's the breakdown:
KSU: @texas, iowa st.---despite our history with texas, I'm going conservative and say 1-1
mu: @nebraska, uk--I'd say at best 1-1. nebraska could be a trap game on the road, preparing for uk, and nebraska being a little angry at the iowa st loss.
Obviously, if we go 1-1 (or 2-0) and mizzou goes 0-2, we get the 4.
Now if we lose to texas and beat iowa st and mizzou beats nebraska and loses to uk. The tiebreakers go 1)head2head-split 2)division record-tied @6-4. 3)record against the top team in the division (uk)--Advantage KSU.
If we lose texas and win iowa st and mizzou loses to nebraska and beats uk, the same tiebreakers go until 3, when, if I'm reading it right, would go to common record against other division teams. uk/KSU/mu-tie. Then it would fall to colorado--Advantage mizzou.
The texas game is inconsequential if mizzou loses either game (I think they will lose either or both), because its a non-divisional game. Outside of NCAA resume's, the iowa st game is more important to us. Might be more to lose by losing to them than there is to gain beating texas.
Tiebreaker list:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1520897
This week cleared nothing up, Nebraska eliminated themselves, that's it. The CU win was a worst case scenario. Hell A&M could easily finish 6th and they've been third all season. This race is fun to watch, there are 13 games left and 11 of them have direct impact on the top 7 seeds. OU plays in both meaningless games. People who disparage basketballs regular season are idiots.
Baylor also eliminated themselves. There were 5-6 teams in play for the 4 seed before this week. Its much easier to project now, so you could say it sorted itself out somewhat.
This would be an excellent point if Baylor didn't still have a chance to finish T-3.
Not only that but Baylor would have the tie breaker over A&M and KSU, CU, and Mizzou don't. If Baylor wins out their path to a bye is pretty easy, assuming Mizzou and KSU don't win out.
Baylor doesn't have the tiebreaker over us. I don't think they beat osu in stoolwater and texas.
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Update
This week has really sorted things out. As mentioned above, its us and mizzou for #4. Looking at the schedules and tiebreakers, here's the breakdown:
KSU: @texas, iowa st.---despite our history with texas, I'm going conservative and say 1-1
mu: @nebraska, uk--I'd say at best 1-1. nebraska could be a trap game on the road, preparing for uk, and nebraska being a little angry at the iowa st loss.
Obviously, if we go 1-1 (or 2-0) and mizzou goes 0-2, we get the 4.
Now if we lose to texas and beat iowa st and mizzou beats nebraska and loses to uk. The tiebreakers go 1)head2head-split 2)division record-tied @6-4. 3)record against the top team in the division (uk)--Advantage KSU.
If we lose texas and win iowa st and mizzou loses to nebraska and beats uk, the same tiebreakers go until 3, when, if I'm reading it right, would go to common record against other division teams. uk/KSU/mu-tie. Then it would fall to colorado--Advantage mizzou.
The texas game is inconsequential if mizzou loses either game (I think they will lose either or both), because its a non-divisional game. Outside of NCAA resume's, the iowa st game is more important to us. Might be more to lose by losing to them than there is to gain beating texas.
Tiebreaker list:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1520897
This week cleared nothing up, Nebraska eliminated themselves, that's it. The CU win was a worst case scenario. Hell A&M could easily finish 6th and they've been third all season. This race is fun to watch, there are 13 games left and 11 of them have direct impact on the top 7 seeds. OU plays in both meaningless games. People who disparage basketballs regular season are idiots.
Baylor also eliminated themselves. There were 5-6 teams in play for the 4 seed before this week. Its much easier to project now, so you could say it sorted itself out somewhat.
This would be an excellent point if Baylor didn't still have a chance to finish T-3.
Not only that but Baylor would have the tie breaker over A&M and KSU, CU, and Mizzou don't. If Baylor wins out their path to a bye is pretty easy, assuming Mizzou and KSU don't win out.
Baylor doesn't have the tiebreaker over us. I don't think they beat osu in stoolwater and texas.
They do have he tiebreaker over us if we are also tied with A&M
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cu swept us. don't want to play again.
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Update
This week has really sorted things out. As mentioned above, its us and mizzou for #4. Looking at the schedules and tiebreakers, here's the breakdown:
KSU: @texas, iowa st.---despite our history with texas, I'm going conservative and say 1-1
mu: @nebraska, uk--I'd say at best 1-1. nebraska could be a trap game on the road, preparing for uk, and nebraska being a little angry at the iowa st loss.
Obviously, if we go 1-1 (or 2-0) and mizzou goes 0-2, we get the 4.
Now if we lose to texas and beat iowa st and mizzou beats nebraska and loses to uk. The tiebreakers go 1)head2head-split 2)division record-tied @6-4. 3)record against the top team in the division (uk)--Advantage KSU.
If we lose texas and win iowa st and mizzou loses to nebraska and beats uk, the same tiebreakers go until 3, when, if I'm reading it right, would go to common record against other division teams. uk/KSU/mu-tie. Then it would fall to colorado--Advantage mizzou.
The texas game is inconsequential if mizzou loses either game (I think they will lose either or both), because its a non-divisional game. Outside of NCAA resume's, the iowa st game is more important to us. Might be more to lose by losing to them than there is to gain beating texas.
Tiebreaker list:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1520897
This week cleared nothing up, Nebraska eliminated themselves, that's it. The CU win was a worst case scenario. Hell A&M could easily finish 6th and they've been third all season. This race is fun to watch, there are 13 games left and 11 of them have direct impact on the top 7 seeds. OU plays in both meaningless games. People who disparage basketballs regular season are idiots.
Baylor also eliminated themselves. There were 5-6 teams in play for the 4 seed before this week. Its much easier to project now, so you could say it sorted itself out somewhat.
This would be an excellent point if Baylor didn't still have a chance to finish T-3.
Not only that but Baylor would have the tie breaker over A&M and KSU, CU, and Mizzou don't. If Baylor wins out their path to a bye is pretty easy, assuming Mizzou and KSU don't win out.
Baylor doesn't have the tiebreaker over us. I don't think they beat osu in stoolwater and texas.
They do have he tiebreaker over us if we are also tied with A&M
Yeah, but I don't see them losing to tech at home.
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cu swept us. don't want to play again.
Hard to beat a team 3 times, no?
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cu swept us. don't want to play again.
Hard to beat a team 3 times, no?
better if they never get to try.
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cu swept us. don't want to play again.
Hard to beat a team 3 times, no?
Damn if this isn't OregonHawk Bait i don't know what is
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cu swept us. don't want to play again.
Hard to beat a team 3 times, no?
Damn if this isn't OregonHawk Bait i don't know what is
KState at a 5 seed means you face us twice in a row.
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There's no way CU would sweep us 3-0. I would love to play them again.
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There's no way CU would sweep us 3-0. I would love to play them again.
this :cheese:
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cu swept us. don't want to play again.
Hard to beat a team 3 times, no?
Damn if this isn't OregonHawk Bait i don't know what is
KState at a 5 seed means you face us twice in a row.
So what, ISU rough ridin' blows, hence the 12 seed, two goddamn wins :lol:
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how sick would a fake patty's day/big 12 tournament championship 'pak be?
:woot: :pbj:
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cu swept us. don't want to play again.
Hard to beat a team 3 times, no?
Damn if this isn't OregonHawk Bait i don't know what is
KState at a 5 seed means you face us twice in a row.
So what, ISU rough ridin' blows, hence the 12 seed, two goddamn wins :lol:
Best last place team in D-I. Banner time! :party:
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cu swept us. don't want to play again.
Hard to beat a team 3 times, no?
Signed,
Kansas 09-10
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cu swept us. don't want to play again.
Hard to beat a team 3 times, no?
Signed,
Kansas 09-10
Do you think CU is as good as that KU team from 09-10?
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how sick would a fake patty's day/big 12 tournament championship 'pak be?
:woot: :pbj:
Hell yes :drink: :drink:
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Update following CU loss to ISU. This is assuming uk finishes off aTm (currently up 9 late).
Probably the 4 playing the winner of missouri or colorado vs iowa st. corn can't get the 5 from any scenario I've been able to find.
A win for us plus tech defeating aTm gives us the 3 vs baylor/colorado/nebraska vs ou
Could get the 5, but that would require us losing to isu and mu beating uk.
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Baylor could still get the 5 seed if..... they beat UT, Mizzou losses to KU, and CU wins = meening BU MU and CU all 8-8
More than likely it will be either MU or CU. I'd say MU has 40 percent chance of beating KU.
I'd love to get my hands on CU again.
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i REALLY want to go to our thursday game. probably gonna go downtown and buy from a scalper
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i REALLY want to go to our thursday game. probably gonna go downtown and buy from a scalper
very :opcat: except replace hood with indian chief headress.
can someone please make an emot for the native americans, tia.