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Title: @ISU
Post by: kso_FAN on February 03, 2011, 12:26:01 PM
The Cyclones are reeling and this would be a bad loss. They shoot a lot of threes offensively but don't oboard well or get to the foul line. Decent defensively, but average on defensive boards. Trying to play at a fast pace this year, but in their only Big 12 win they slowed down the game with Baylor and hit shots and played solid defense. Finally, not a deep team at all, 5 guys playing at least 28 MPG and those same 5 have played 71% or more minutes on the year. They will be desperate, but withstand that early and this is a team we should be able to dominate similar to NU last night if we come to play.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kougar24 on February 03, 2011, 12:33:27 PM
They shoot a lot of threes

:ohno:


if we come to play

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Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: CNS on February 03, 2011, 12:34:32 PM
Sounds like some JYC perimeter D will win the game for us. 

Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: pike on February 03, 2011, 12:35:40 PM
HAVS twittering crap on us already  :chainsaw:
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: PowercatPat on February 03, 2011, 12:48:06 PM
This game scares me. I think Vanderbeeken (sp?) will go off from 3 and score like 30 points.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: catzacker on February 03, 2011, 12:52:23 PM
They shoot a lot of threes


 :ohno:

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Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kso_FAN on February 03, 2011, 12:53:00 PM
ISU hitting a bunch of 3s is a valid concern, but the profile for K-State losing is pretty simple.

If we allow ourselves to get beat on the boards, especially the offensive glass, and we have a TO rate far greater than our opponents, we will lose.  We are likely going to have a TO rate of around 20%, we just have to force our opponents into the same amount or more. If we can get to the FT line that would be great too. What I like about this game is that it is a decent match-up for us in most of those areas, its just a matter of whether or not we take advantage of that match-up.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kougar24 on February 03, 2011, 12:59:47 PM
They shoot a lot of threes

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Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: wetwillie on February 03, 2011, 01:03:07 PM
I subscribe to rob's theory of CK being able to feast on garbage teams.  I guess the middle of the pack is allowing us to hang around even with our record but I have to think this one is a turn out the lights type of game if we lose.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: steve dave on February 03, 2011, 01:03:39 PM
I subscribe to rob's theory of CK being able to feast on garbage teams.  I guess the middle of the pack is allowing us to hang around even with our record but I have to think this one is a turn out the lights type of game if we lose.

I used to have this same theory about Jamar.  After last night...NOPE
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kso_FAN on February 03, 2011, 01:06:47 PM
I subscribe to rob's theory of CK being able to feast on garbage teams.  I guess the middle of the pack is allowing us to hang around even with our record but I have to think this one is a turn out the lights type of game if we lose.

Meh. He may not have "feasted", but he did have one of his better Big 12 games for this season.
I used to have this same theory about Jamar.  After last night...NOPE
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: sys on February 03, 2011, 01:10:07 PM
the only way isu can beat high major teams is by hitting lots of threes.  oth, they've got two guys that are extraordinary shooters.


make garrett shoot, shoot and shoot some more.  he wants to anyways, so it's not that hard.  just don't collapse on his drives and let him kick out to the good shooters.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: AbeFroman on February 03, 2011, 01:51:48 PM
Considering teams are always are "on" for us, I expect a 71% 3pt shooting day from ISU
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: rcjh88 on February 03, 2011, 01:59:34 PM
They have no bench. ksu wins this one easy.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: EMAWzified on February 03, 2011, 02:17:52 PM
My biggest concern is getting out of that dank swamp with no mold-associated illnesses.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kougar24 on February 03, 2011, 02:25:28 PM
They have no bench. ksu wins this one easy.

CU has no bench. Oops.


I subscribe to rob's theory of CK being able to feast on garbage teams.  I guess the middle of the pack is allowing us to hang around even with our record but I have to think this one is a turn out the lights type of game if we lose.

I used to have this same theory about Jamar.  After last night...NOPE

Meh. He may not have "feasted", but he did have one of his better Big 12 games for this season.

Jamar? Uh...really?


the only way isu can beat high major teams is by hitting lots of threes.

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Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: CNS on February 03, 2011, 02:32:23 PM
My biggest concern is getting out of that dank swamp with no mold-associated illnesses.

This.

I hope our guys don't get to breathing too hard.

Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: RonLongshaft on February 03, 2011, 02:51:49 PM
They shoot a lot of threes

:ohno:


if we come to play

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Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 03, 2011, 03:09:53 PM
I subscribe to rob's theory of CK being able to feast on garbage teams.  I guess the middle of the pack is allowing us to hang around even with our record but I have to think this one is a turn out the lights type of game if we lose.

I like Cassidy and I think he provides some good insight, but I think he's wrong on this one:

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=303272306

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=303370265

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=310220245

That's 3 games against quality opponents in some tough environments where he was probably our 2nd best if not best player.

Yes, he played poorly agaisnt Fla, Mizz, and ku but he wasn't dominating against the likes of Emporia St, Alcorn St or Loyola either. I think it's consistency against everybody, not necessarily against just good teams, is what could take CK to another level.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kslim on February 03, 2011, 03:17:34 PM
HILTON MAGIC
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 03, 2011, 03:28:03 PM
I'll also say that I was fairly encouraged by last night, as _FAN illustrated through stats, we won it on the defensive end, forcing them into mistakes, and owning the glass. If we can maintain this identity Sat up in Ames, I like our chances.

On a related note, it was a good to see Kelly, Samuels, and JHR all play well at the same time. Maybe it had something to do with the Nubb's being thin in the frontcourt, but I can't remember another game this year where we had 3 bigs play well at the same time like that(too lazy to look this up  :ck:)
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kougar24 on February 03, 2011, 03:38:21 PM
I must have missed the memo about the company line being that Jamar played well last night...
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 03, 2011, 03:49:23 PM
8 pts, 4 boards, 2 asts, 1 stl, 5-6 FT's.

He was solid, what the hell do you want?
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kougar24 on February 03, 2011, 03:55:57 PM
8 pts, 4 boards, 2 asts, 1 stl, 5-6 FT's.

He was solid, what the hell do you want?

More than 2 buckets from the field, for starters.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 03, 2011, 04:01:09 PM
He also knocked down a trey and only had 1 TO, while playing solid D throughout the game.

But I realize that won't be enough for you, I mean why stop with "starters", what other elements of basketball excellence do you demand?
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 03, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
He also knocked down a trey and only had 1 TO, while playing solid D throughout the game.

But I realize that won't be enough for you, I mean why stop with "starters", what other elements of basketball excellence do you demand?

It's just Koug's tarded talking point. He's going to the grave with it, whether he wants to or not.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 03, 2011, 04:10:54 PM
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Iowa State will have just 7 scholarship players available vs K-State on Saturday, as F Calvin Godfrey sits out second of 3-game suspension.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: catzacker on February 03, 2011, 04:18:29 PM
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Iowa State will have just 7 scholarship players available vs K-State on Saturday, as F Calvin Godfrey sits out second of 3-game suspension.

ohhhhhh sh*******t

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Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Panjandrum on February 03, 2011, 04:19:59 PM
He also knocked down a trey and only had 1 TO, while playing solid D throughout the game.

But I realize that won't be enough for you, I mean why stop with "starters", what other elements of basketball excellence do you demand?

It's just Koug's tarded talking point. He's going to the grave with it, whether he wants to or not.

I will always love Jamar for who he is and who he is not.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kougar24 on February 03, 2011, 04:33:06 PM
He also knocked down a trey and only had 1 TO, while playing solid D throughout the game.

But I realize that won't be enough for you, I mean why stop with "starters", what other elements of basketball excellence do you demand?

It's just Koug's tarded talking point. He's going to the grave with it, whether he wants to or not.

??? I love Jamar, but he's capable of much more than he showed against Nubb. I apparently have more faith in him than you do. :popcorn:
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 03, 2011, 04:36:11 PM
He also knocked down a trey and only had 1 TO, while playing solid D throughout the game.

But I realize that won't be enough for you, I mean why stop with "starters", what other elements of basketball excellence do you demand?

It's just Koug's tarded talking point. He's going to the grave with it, whether he wants to or not.

??? I love Jamar, but he's capable of much more than he showed against Nubb. I apparently have more faith in him than you do. :popcorn:

yeah, i was confused, wrong dude. my bad.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: sys on February 03, 2011, 04:37:19 PM
I like Cassidy and I think he provides some good insight, but I think he's wrong on this one:

i strongly agree on the 1st and 3rd points.  i quibble a bit with the 2nd.  he seems like mostly a sandwich guy.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: sys on February 03, 2011, 04:39:49 PM
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Iowa State will have just 7 scholarship players available vs K-State on Saturday, as F Calvin Godfrey sits out second of 3-game suspension.

they play a walk on all the time, so that's a little misleading.  eight players is plenty.  if depth effects them at all, it will just be in the post.  and kstate is at least as vulnerable in that area.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: _33 on February 03, 2011, 05:38:44 PM
Considering teams are always are "on" for us, I expect a 71% 3pt shooting day from ISU

Every teams fans thinks every team shoots lights out against them.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 03, 2011, 05:45:37 PM
8 pts, 4 boards, 2 asts, 1 stl, 5-6 FT's.

He was solid, what the hell do you want?

More than 2 buckets from the field, for starters.

He only had one, FWIW.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: CatsFan_58 on February 03, 2011, 05:58:49 PM
Considering teams are always are "on" for us, I expect a 71% 3pt shooting day from ISU

Every teams fans thinks every team shoots lights out against them.
ya but it for realzies happens to us.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kso_FAN on February 03, 2011, 07:01:37 PM
He also knocked down a trey and only had 1 TO, while playing solid D throughout the game.

But I realize that won't be enough for you, I mean why stop with "starters", what other elements of basketball excellence do you demand?

It's just Koug's tarded talking point. He's going to the grave with it, whether he wants to or not.

??? I love Jamar, but he's capable of much more than he showed against Nubb. I apparently have more faith in him than you do. :popcorn:

Jamar played well in spite of not scoring a bunch of points. He passed the ball well, played well on the perimeter, and played solid defense. I'd like to see the scoring around 10-12, but he can play well without scoring.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Pett on February 03, 2011, 07:57:19 PM
Winterz and I are staying with Haver. :ohno:
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 03, 2011, 08:26:51 PM
Winterz and I are staying with Haver. :ohno:

I want A LOT of posts from walking taco pak.

Ps.  Clams, is it time for walking taco pak II?
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kougar24 on February 04, 2011, 12:08:12 AM
8 pts, 4 boards, 2 asts, 1 stl, 5-6 FT's.

He was solid, what the hell do you want?

More than 2 buckets from the field, for starters.

He only had one, FWIW.

No, he had one 2 and one 3.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 04, 2011, 12:14:57 AM
8 pts, 4 boards, 2 asts, 1 stl, 5-6 FT's.

He was solid, what the hell do you want?

More than 2 buckets from the field, for starters.

He only had one, FWIW.

No, he had one 2 and one 3.

5 FTs + 1 3-pointer = 8 points
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kougar24 on February 04, 2011, 11:55:52 AM
8 pts, 4 boards, 2 asts, 1 stl, 5-6 FT's.

He was solid, what the hell do you want?

More than 2 buckets from the field, for starters.

He only had one, FWIW.

No, he had one 2 and one 3.

5 FTs + 1 3-pointer = 8 points

My bad. Forgot statsheet counts 3s in their FG column as well as listing it separately.

So one FG. I'm definitely sticking by "Jamar didn't have a great game."
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: steve dave on February 04, 2011, 12:40:35 PM
Korey Lucious will be in attendance. We should steal him from them while we are in town.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on February 04, 2011, 02:24:17 PM
Korey Lucious will be in attendance. We should steal him from them while we are in town.

You mean kidnap him and threaten to kill him and make it look like  :goodbyecruelworld: , if he doesn't transfer to ksu... you read my mind.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: CloneBroChill on February 04, 2011, 05:51:32 PM
Korey Lucious will be in attendance. We should steal him from them while we are in town.
Might have some trouble because he was pretty good friends with Diante Garrett from their days of AAU ball in Milwaukee, best friends with current ISU basketball player Chris Allen from their days at Michigan State, as well as the assistant coach who has recruiting roots in Milwaukee, along with the reigning Wisconsin's Mr. Basketball Elgin Cook, who will be a freshman next year...
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: steve dave on February 04, 2011, 05:54:20 PM
Korey Lucious will be in attendance. We should steal him from them while we are in town.
Might have some trouble because he was pretty good friends with Diante Garrett from their days of AAU ball in Milwaukee, best friends with current ISU basketball player Chris Allen from their days at Michigan State, as well as the assistant coach who has recruiting roots in Milwaukee, along with the reigning Wisconsin's Mr. Basketball Elgin Cook, who will be a freshman next year...

Yeah, but it's Iowa State so I like our odds should we decide to go after him
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: CloneBroChill on February 04, 2011, 05:59:03 PM
Have you seen ISU lately.....We're taking Skeletor's methods and taking on transfers....when the best scout team in the land becomes eligible next year,  that gives ISU 3 Rivals Top 50 rated players in their respective classes along with one that was rated in the top 20, oh and another who was Penn State's leading three point shooter last year as well as averaging nearly 10 pts/contest.....We're slowly becoming the basketball version of Kansas State football :bwpopcorn:...
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: steve dave on February 04, 2011, 06:00:55 PM
We're slowly becoming the basketball version of Kansas State football :bwpopcorn:...

pfffttttt, I'm sorry
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: CloneBroChill on February 04, 2011, 06:15:51 PM
Oh yea except we have more than 1 big 12 championship... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Scary Smart on February 04, 2011, 06:26:30 PM
If we lose to Iowa State, I might do something drastic.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 04, 2011, 06:48:21 PM
We're slowly becoming the basketball version of Kansas State football :bwpopcorn:...

ouch...if they name that floodplain "Hoi's place" or some crap...run.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 05, 2011, 09:19:33 AM
Considering teams are always are "on" for us, I expect a 71% 3pt shooting day from ISU

Every teams fans thinks every team shoots lights out against them.
ya but it for realzies happens to us.

Made me lol for some reason.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: AppleJack on February 05, 2011, 09:23:32 AM
-3.5  :bball:
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 05, 2011, 09:43:56 AM
Oh yea except we have more than 1 big 12 championship... :thumbsup:

While you are in your time machine, go back and tell the idiots who built your arena to put it someplace it won't flood all the time.  Then it wont stink like sewage.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2011, 09:45:53 AM
Oh yea except we have more than 1 big 12 championship... :thumbsup:

While you are in your time machine, go back and tell the idiots who built your arena to put it someplace it won't flood all the time.  Then it wont stink like sewage.
:lol:
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: i poo crabs on February 05, 2011, 01:36:24 PM
A NICK RUSSELL sighting
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: i poo crabs on February 05, 2011, 01:57:58 PM
JO: It ticks me off when you can't catch :facepalm:
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: CatsFan_58 on February 05, 2011, 01:59:58 PM
A giant eff YOU to the russel hating tards.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: i poo crabs on February 05, 2011, 02:10:26 PM
A giant eff YOU to the russel hating tards.
His BBIQ is low.  They're in the 1 and 1.  They're a very good free throw shooting team.  NO REASON TO FOUL!
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: broXcore on February 05, 2011, 02:10:44 PM
jo is so bad
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: J on February 05, 2011, 02:14:26 PM
95
 :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: broXcore on February 05, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
jo is so bad
reverse jinx: successful
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: i poo crabs on February 05, 2011, 02:16:56 PM
95!
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: SPE_khat on February 05, 2011, 02:21:28 PM
JO and 95 - The Future  :emawkid:
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on February 05, 2011, 02:29:25 PM
All of ISU's cheerleaders have terrible posture.  Did anyone else notice this?  ALL of them.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: broXcore on February 05, 2011, 02:30:57 PM
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Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 05, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
All of ISU's cheerleaders have terrible posture.  Did anyone else notice this?  ALL of them.

Don't you lean over the plate when you eat corn?   :dunno:
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on February 05, 2011, 02:36:02 PM
ISU fans boo a lot.  Like they're really upset about life in general.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: CatsFan_58 on February 05, 2011, 02:40:46 PM
i want to slit the throats of vanderbeeken and christopher douche
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: TheProdigiousTalent on February 05, 2011, 02:43:07 PM
i want to slit the throats of vanderbeeken and christopher douche
Christopher San is probably the best Japanese guard in college BB in at least 10 years.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: i poo crabs on February 05, 2011, 02:47:02 PM
WOW  :woot: We got lucky
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: O-town Kat on February 05, 2011, 02:49:07 PM
god we suck
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2011, 03:02:03 PM
i want to slit the throats of vanderbeeken and christopher douche

I really haven't watched ISU, but do these guys usually hit multiple turn-around, fade-away jumpers? Ridiculous.
Title: Re: @ISU
Post by: sys on February 05, 2011, 04:23:55 PM
I really haven't watched ISU, but do these guys usually hit multiple turn-around, fade-away jumpers? Ridiculous.

vanderbeeken kinda can do that, he just doesn't like contact/posting up.

christopherson's stats don't suggest that he makes many twos, but every time i've seen him this year he's shown the ability to put the ball on the floor.  his stats don't fit the impression i have from the 4-5 games i've seen.