Trump owns Russia

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Quite the scoop by pastemagazine.com

[Phil Titola]

Quite the scoop by pastemagazine.com

thought it was a pron site, did not click

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

The Washington Post revealed Tuesday that the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee jointly paid for that infamous “dossier” full of Russian disinformation against Donald Trump. They filtered the payments through a U.S. law firm (Perkins Coie), which hired the opposition-research hit men at Fusion GPS. Fusion in turn tapped a former British spook, Christopher Steele, to compile the allegations, which are based largely on anonymous, Kremlin-connected sources.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/democrats-russians-and-the-fbi-1508971759

AMAZE

[Phil Titola]

The Washington Post revealed Tuesday that the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee jointly paid for that infamous “dossier” full of Russian disinformation against Donald Trump. They filtered the payments through a U.S. law firm (Perkins Coie), which hired the opposition-research hit men at Fusion GPS. Fusion in turn tapped a former British spook, Christopher Steele, to compile the allegations, which are based largely on anonymous, Kremlin-connected sources.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/democrats-russians-and-the-fbi-1508971759

AMAZE

so glad all these news organizations finally came around to reporting #REALNEWS

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Colluding with Russians to create a Russian COLUSION conspiracy. 

[Phil Titola]

Colluding with Russians to create a Russian COLUSION conspiracy. 

talking directly to Russians....a-ok comrade!

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Let me ask you this... have you ever considered why the FBI chose to brief Trump on this absurd dossier shortly after his election, and only then did the media divulge the existence of the dossier, despite the fact that it had been shopped around to these same media outlets for months preceding the election and was deemed too absurd to touch? Why do you think the FBI did that? Do you think maaaaaybe it was to provide the pretext necessary for the media to finally "break the story"?

This is the stupidest rough ridin' theory I've heard on this blog and I just read about KU fans being convinced they are getting Harbaugh.

You obviously didn't read the NYMag article.

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So is it likely that Hillary broke any serious laws here or not? (this question is for the moderates so bite your tongues rabid dogs)

[The Big Train]

So is it likely that Hillary broke any serious laws here or not? (this question is for the moderates so bite your tongues rabid dogs)

Odd this is in the Trump and Russia thread tbh

[gatoveintisiete]

She’s  being accused of a smorgasbord of bad stuff today (relating to Russia) tbt

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So is it likely that Hillary broke any serious laws here or not? (this question is for the moderates so bite your tongues rabid dogs)

I do not recall any serious charges coming out of accusations regarding campaign finance violations.  I guess this could be one of the first cases with a major party presidential candidate, but I'm guessing it likely will not lead anywhere.

[gatoveintisiete]

So is it likely that Hillary broke any serious laws here or not? (this question is for the moderates so bite your tongues rabid dogs)

I do not recall any serious charges coming out of accusations regarding campaign finance violations.  I guess this could be one of the first cases with a major party presidential candidate, but I'm guessing it likely will not lead anywhere.

I haven’t heard this accusation

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Bwa ha ha ha. Turns out funneling money through a law firm to Fusion GPS may have violated campaign finance law. http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/25/fec-complaint-accuses-clinton-dnc-violations/

[ChiComCat]

Campaigns pay for opposition research all the time so I don't think it's illegal. I'm not sure the legality of certain democrats denying knowledge of payments (were they in the know and/or under oath when they denied it?).

I think the main takeaway is a discrediting of the dossier.

[gatoveintisiete]

Yeah I never even considered she broke the law with that one, unless buying info that comes from a foreign country is a crime.  All that episode showed is that she is shady, dishonest, and willing to deceive people to win which I think we already knew.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Campaigns pay for opposition research all the time so I don't think it's illegal. I'm not sure the legality of certain democrats denying knowledge of payments (were they in the know and/or under oath when they denied it?).

I think the main takeaway is a discrediting of the dossier.

I'm FAR from an expert on campaign finance law - most of which I think is an unconstitutional abridgement of the first amendment anyway - but I'm hearing that while there's nothing wrong with paying for oppo research, you have to list it on your financial disclosures. Team HRC went around that by funneling the money through a law firm (which then lied about hiring Fusion, repeatedly). Could be problematic.

Could also be problematic that the former spy that Fusion GPS hired for the research was likely paying former KGB agents for the dubious "intel" - which means Team HRC was indirectly paying Russians for dirt. In other words, based on what we know so far (and this is only the beginning), this is looking worse than any of the phony "COLUSION" claims leveled against the Trumpster.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Let me ask you this... have you ever considered why the FBI chose to brief Trump on this absurd dossier shortly after his election, and only then did the media divulge the existence of the dossier, despite the fact that it had been shopped around to these same media outlets for months preceding the election and was deemed too absurd to touch? Why do you think the FBI did that? Do you think maaaaaybe it was to provide the pretext necessary for the media to finally "break the story"?

This is the stupidest rough ridin' theory I've heard on this blog and I just read about KU fans being convinced they are getting Harbaugh.

Come on now, even I wouldn't stoop to comparing the liberal hysteria around here to KU delusion. Let's play nice. To expound a bit more on the theory (and it is just a theory until we learn more)....

8) Jim Comey personally briefed Trump on the dossier, shortly before CNN reported it

As confirmed by the Washington Post, the Russia-Trump COLUSION narrative was a Clinton campaign political operation. The dossier itself was shopped around by Fusion GPS a year ago to The New York Times, the Washington Post, Yahoo News, The New Yorker, and CNN, according to lawyers for the ex-spy who worked on the dossier. The dossier was so unverifiable that the only reporter to bite was from Mother Jones.

What really got the ball rolling on last year’s Russia-Trump conspiracy theory, then, was not the dossier itself but the briefing of it by Obama intelligence chiefs to President-elect Trump in January. Former FBI head Jim Comey admitted under oath that former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper asked him to personally brief President Trump about this dossier. The fact of that meeting was quickly leaked to CNN.


Given the dossier’s many problems, was the entire purpose of the meeting to produce the leak that the meeting happened? No one was biting on the dossier and it needed legitimization by opponents of Trump. If the dossier was so shoddy that it was debunked in hours after BuzzFeed posted it in all its salacious glory, why brief the president and president-elect on it, much less leak it? What was the real purpose of that meeting, and that leak to CNN?

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/25/top-10-things-to-know-about-dossier/

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Yeah I never even considered she broke the law with that one, unless buying info that comes from a foreign country is a crime.  All that episode showed is that she is shady, dishonest, and willing to deceive people to win which I think we already knew.

Then seems to me you’ve answered your own question about whether Hillary has broken any serious laws here.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/357240-dnc-wasserman-schultz-say-they-were-unaware-of-dossier-payments

Whaaaat? We had no idea! 

[ChiComCat]

Let me ask you this... have you ever considered why the FBI chose to brief Trump on this absurd dossier shortly after his election, and only then did the media divulge the existence of the dossier, despite the fact that it had been shopped around to these same media outlets for months preceding the election and was deemed too absurd to touch? Why do you think the FBI did that? Do you think maaaaaybe it was to provide the pretext necessary for the media to finally "break the story"?

This is the stupidest rough ridin' theory I've heard on this blog and I just read about KU fans being convinced they are getting Harbaugh.

Come on now, even I wouldn't stoop to comparing the liberal hysteria around here to KU delusion. Let's play nice. To expound a bit more on the theory (and it is just a theory until we learn more)....

8) Jim Comey personally briefed Trump on the dossier, shortly before CNN reported it

As confirmed by the Washington Post, the Russia-Trump COLUSION narrative was a Clinton campaign political operation. The dossier itself was shopped around by Fusion GPS a year ago to The New York Times, the Washington Post, Yahoo News, The New Yorker, and CNN, according to lawyers for the ex-spy who worked on the dossier. The dossier was so unverifiable that the only reporter to bite was from Mother Jones.

What really got the ball rolling on last year’s Russia-Trump conspiracy theory, then, was not the dossier itself but the briefing of it by Obama intelligence chiefs to President-elect Trump in January. Former FBI head Jim Comey admitted under oath that former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper asked him to personally brief President Trump about this dossier. The fact of that meeting was quickly leaked to CNN.


Given the dossier’s many problems, was the entire purpose of the meeting to produce the leak that the meeting happened? No one was biting on the dossier and it needed legitimization by opponents of Trump. If the dossier was so shoddy that it was debunked in hours after BuzzFeed posted it in all its salacious glory, why brief the president and president-elect on it, much less leak it? What was the real purpose of that meeting, and that leak to CNN?

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/25/top-10-things-to-know-about-dossier/

So your theory is that the dossier was available for months, FBI/Obama wanted to sabotage Trump, and FBI/Obama knew briefing Trump would get the dossier in the media.

Giving you all of that, why on earth would they wait until after the election?  It makes absolutely no sense.

[The Big Train]

So that Trump would win and when he gets removed from office Hillary comes out of retirement and assumes the rightful crown as queen.  Then KSUW and all his trumper buddies can get their guns and take back this country.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Let me ask you this... have you ever considered why the FBI chose to brief Trump on this absurd dossier shortly after his election, and only then did the media divulge the existence of the dossier, despite the fact that it had been shopped around to these same media outlets for months preceding the election and was deemed too absurd to touch? Why do you think the FBI did that? Do you think maaaaaybe it was to provide the pretext necessary for the media to finally "break the story"?

This is the stupidest rough ridin' theory I've heard on this blog and I just read about KU fans being convinced they are getting Harbaugh.

Come on now, even I wouldn't stoop to comparing the liberal hysteria around here to KU delusion. Let's play nice. To expound a bit more on the theory (and it is just a theory until we learn more)....

8) Jim Comey personally briefed Trump on the dossier, shortly before CNN reported it

As confirmed by the Washington Post, the Russia-Trump COLUSION narrative was a Clinton campaign political operation. The dossier itself was shopped around by Fusion GPS a year ago to The New York Times, the Washington Post, Yahoo News, The New Yorker, and CNN, according to lawyers for the ex-spy who worked on the dossier. The dossier was so unverifiable that the only reporter to bite was from Mother Jones.

What really got the ball rolling on last year’s Russia-Trump conspiracy theory, then, was not the dossier itself but the briefing of it by Obama intelligence chiefs to President-elect Trump in January. Former FBI head Jim Comey admitted under oath that former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper asked him to personally brief President Trump about this dossier. The fact of that meeting was quickly leaked to CNN.


Given the dossier’s many problems, was the entire purpose of the meeting to produce the leak that the meeting happened? No one was biting on the dossier and it needed legitimization by opponents of Trump. If the dossier was so shoddy that it was debunked in hours after BuzzFeed posted it in all its salacious glory, why brief the president and president-elect on it, much less leak it? What was the real purpose of that meeting, and that leak to CNN?

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/25/top-10-things-to-know-about-dossier/

So your theory is that the dossier was available for months, FBI/Obama wanted to sabotage Trump, and FBI/Obama knew briefing Trump would get the dossier in the media.

Giving you all of that, why on earth would they wait until after the election?  It makes absolutely no sense.

Maybe because everybody thought Hillary was going to win easily?

Ordinarily, this theory would seem like a bit of a stretch, but James Clapper is increasingly looking like a never-Trumper partisan hack, and the fact that he personally interceded to ask Comey to brief Trump and Obama on a dossier that had not been corroborated, a briefing which then immediately leaked to the media, is very suspicious. It looks like a political dirty trick.

[Phil Titola]

Man everybody that doesn't kowtow to Trump and calls him out for his hundreds of gaffs is a never Trumper....damn guys. Think about what you are saying.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/357240-dnc-wasserman-schultz-say-they-were-unaware-of-dossier-payments

Whaaaat? We had no idea! 

I like how all the right-leaning stuff on this describes Christopher Steele as a "foreign spy."  Sounds so much more menacing and less credible than "former British intelligence officer."

[star seed 7]

Man everybody that doesn't kowtow to Trump and calls him out for his hundreds of gaffs is a never Trumper....damn guys. Think about what you are saying.

Don't forget that kdub isn't a fan of trump either wink wink