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Quote from: Rick RowdyBoyy Daris on March 12, 2016, 02:44:53 PMQuote from: Trim on March 12, 2016, 02:19:14 PMWhat's a worse look for currie - wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar, or not wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar?this is a great question, because as a casual observer of college sports and not something that i do for a living to make money and provide for my family, i would and did know for 100% certainty that the oscar hire was going to fail. not 99%. 100%. if i knew, how did he not?See my post. He got bullied by people who stood to gain if Weber got hired or who had a close friendship with Weber.
Quote from: Trim on March 12, 2016, 02:19:14 PMWhat's a worse look for currie - wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar, or not wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar?this is a great question, because as a casual observer of college sports and not something that i do for a living to make money and provide for my family, i would and did know for 100% certainty that the oscar hire was going to fail. not 99%. 100%. if i knew, how did he not?
What's a worse look for currie - wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar, or not wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar?
Quote from: TownieCat on March 12, 2016, 02:08:23 PMComparing Frank and oscar is pointless until SC does something noteworthy. I think what Frank has done is pretty noteworthy, considering where both programs were when each coach took over. One is trending up and one is trending down / stagnant. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Comparing Frank and oscar is pointless until SC does something noteworthy.
Quote from: Rick RowdyBoyy Daris on March 12, 2016, 02:44:53 PMQuote from: Trim on March 12, 2016, 02:19:14 PMWhat's a worse look for currie - wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar, or not wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar?this is a great question, because as a casual observer of college sports and not something that i do for a living to make money and provide for my family, i would and did know for 100% certainty that the oscar hire was going to fail. not 99%. 100%. if i knew, how did he not?I don't think Currie thought oscar failed at Illinois.http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attendanceYBYtop25.pdfLook at oscar's last few seasons there. Currie probably looks at that and thinks Illinois' AD was crazy for letting him go.
Quote from: michigancat on March 12, 2016, 03:40:11 PMQuote from: Rick RowdyBoyy Daris on March 12, 2016, 02:44:53 PMQuote from: Trim on March 12, 2016, 02:19:14 PMWhat's a worse look for currie - wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar, or not wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar?this is a great question, because as a casual observer of college sports and not something that i do for a living to make money and provide for my family, i would and did know for 100% certainty that the oscar hire was going to fail. not 99%. 100%. if i knew, how did he not?I don't think Currie thought oscar failed at Illinois.http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attendanceYBYtop25.pdfLook at oscar's last few seasons there. Currie probably looks at that and thinks Illinois' AD was crazy for letting him go.Good point and link.
Quote from: ksu_BBB on March 12, 2016, 03:51:02 PMQuote from: michigancat on March 12, 2016, 03:40:11 PMQuote from: Rick RowdyBoyy Daris on March 12, 2016, 02:44:53 PMQuote from: Trim on March 12, 2016, 02:19:14 PMWhat's a worse look for currie - wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar, or not wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar?this is a great question, because as a casual observer of college sports and not something that i do for a living to make money and provide for my family, i would and did know for 100% certainty that the oscar hire was going to fail. not 99%. 100%. if i knew, how did he not?I don't think Currie thought oscar failed at Illinois.http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attendanceYBYtop25.pdfLook at oscar's last few seasons there. Currie probably looks at that and thinks Illinois' AD was crazy for letting him go.Good point and link.illinois is top 20 min attendance every year though. that's why it's v weird for a coach to fail there. i'm not 100%, but i think oscar is the only coach to ever be fired from that school. it just doesn't happen. it's v easy to succeed their and match fan expectations.
Quote from: Rick RowdyBoyy Daris on March 12, 2016, 04:45:16 PMQuote from: ksu_BBB on March 12, 2016, 03:51:02 PMQuote from: michigancat on March 12, 2016, 03:40:11 PMQuote from: Rick RowdyBoyy Daris on March 12, 2016, 02:44:53 PMQuote from: Trim on March 12, 2016, 02:19:14 PMWhat's a worse look for currie - wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar, or not wanting to win and accordingly hiring oscar?this is a great question, because as a casual observer of college sports and not something that i do for a living to make money and provide for my family, i would and did know for 100% certainty that the oscar hire was going to fail. not 99%. 100%. if i knew, how did he not?I don't think Currie thought oscar failed at Illinois.http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attendanceYBYtop25.pdfLook at oscar's last few seasons there. Currie probably looks at that and thinks Illinois' AD was crazy for letting him go.Good point and link.illinois is top 20 min attendance every year though. that's why it's v weird for a coach to fail there. i'm not 100%, but i think oscar is the only coach to ever be fired from that school. it just doesn't happen. it's v easy to succeed their and match fan expectations.Wow, they really have never fired a coach in the modern era. Henson, Kruger, Self from 1974-2003 is a remarkable run.
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on March 12, 2016, 12:52:01 PMthe message I received as a fan is we'd rather lose the oscar way than win the Frank way.Currie's order of preference in my mind:1. Win weber way2. Win Frank way3. Lose weber way4. Lose frank wayI think Currie would rather win the "right" way, whatever that means to him -- he'd rather win and play by the rules. He thought he could get that with Weber, and I suppose it is still possible. But if/when it doesn't work out he'll find another guy.
the message I received as a fan is we'd rather lose the oscar way than win the Frank way.
Quote from: captaincrap on March 12, 2016, 01:08:43 PMQuote from: Cartierfor3 on March 12, 2016, 12:52:01 PMthe message I received as a fan is we'd rather lose the oscar way than win the Frank way.Currie's order of preference in my mind:1. Win weber way2. Win Frank way3. Lose weber way4. Lose frank wayI think Currie would rather win the "right" way, whatever that means to him -- he'd rather win and play by the rules. He thought he could get that with Weber, and I suppose it is still possible. But if/when it doesn't work out he'll find another guy.Are you saying you don't think we've hit the point where it hasn't worked out?
I mean firing basketball coaches pre 1970 wasn't really a thing but i get what you are saying.
Hiring the failure from Illinois is what ksu basketball aspired be.Hiring the success at Illinois is what ku basketball decided to do. The message is pretty clear.
Watching Brad's Jacks on ESPN2. Can't tell you how livid it makes me that Oscar is patrolling K-State sideline. Also Baker of WSU is a poor man's Walkup.
Quote from: EMAWzified on March 12, 2016, 09:04:37 PMWatching Brad's Jacks on ESPN2. Can't tell you how livid it makes me that Oscar is patrolling K-State sideline. Also Baker of WSU is a poor man's Walkup.Because they are both white? They don't play the same posish