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March 03, 2007, 02:10:59 AM
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Last shot for class of ’07
Wildcats’ heralded group still has a chance to finally make it to the NCAA Tournament.
By HOWARD RICHMAN
The Kansas City Star

MANHATTAN, Kan. | He arrived at Kansas State as part of a recruiting class that was supposed to make things right again.

HoopScoop, a recruiting service in Louisville, Ky., rated K-State’s incoming basketball class No. 1 in the country in April 2003. For a program that was starving to regain its edge, this was supposed to be the answer.

“I knew we could be the kind of players that would change this program around,” Wildcats senior forward Cartier Martin said.

Now — four years later — what remains of that heralded recruiting class still has its chance.

When K-State, 20-10 overall and 9-6 in the Big 12, faces Oklahoma at 2:30 this afternoon at Bramlage Coliseum, the Wildcats will enter the final regular-season game in the hunt for an NCAA Tournament bid, something K-State hasn’t experienced since 1996.

That in itself can be considered vindication for the 2003 recruits.

“We have had our ups and downs,” Martin said. “I know I have. But I think we’ve showed at times it was a good class. There’s still time to make the impact we wanted all along.”

That 2003 class was led by Martin — who was a fourth-team Parade magazine All-American — Lance Harris, Jeremiah Massey, Tyler Hughes and Dez Willingham. Later, after the HoopScoop ranking, Dramane Diarra was signed to the class.

Only Martin and Harris remain.

Massey’s eligibility expired in 2005. Willingham transferred after his freshman season to Southern Methodist, where he is finishing his junior season. Hughes, who would have been a senior, was dismissed in August after the school learned his name appeared on a registered-sex-offender database for the state of Kansas.

You easily could wonder what might have been if things had turned out differently. Willingham might have helped at point guard for coach Bob Huggins. And who knows how Huggins’ presence might’ve influenced Hughes, who at times flashed potential in the paint, an area that could’ve used some bolstering this season.

Jimmy Elgas, who was on head coach Jim Wooldridge’s staff at K-State when it secured the 2003 class, said Thursday he was happy for Martin’s and Harris’ quest to have a shot at accomplishing what they were brought here to do.

“At that point, when we recruited them, we needed a large class,” said Elgas, now basketball operations director at Utah. “At the time, we were really excited. We felt that was our first real complete class.”

Massey, who evolved into a star by his senior season, has monitored the Wildcats.

“As for Cartier and Lance, I’m happy they have a chance to have all the things I wished for,” Massey said via e-mail from Greece, where he plays professionally. “Even though Jim Wooldridge was a great coach, they are getting maximum exposure with a great coach with a big name. It was just due time that the Cats started winning.”


Harris always thought it would turn out this way, with K-State turning the corner and making an impact before he exited.

“This is something big for me and Cartier because we’re the only ones left,” Harris said. “We were in the No. 1 class, but it seems so long ago. But now that we’re making this run, it’s all been worth it.”

The current senior class, which also includes Akeem Wright, Serge Afeli and Jermaine Maybank, will be remembered fondly by Huggins.

“They’ve been great,” Huggins said. “I said it all along. They really bought in. They’ve tried. I told them I want them remembered as the guys that got it turned around, that got K-State back on the national scene.”

Martin, who will finish in the top 10 in 11 career categories at K-State, including No. 6 in points, said he will have to keep his emotions in check today.

“I’ll have a lot of emotions going through me,” he said. “But I have to do whatever I can to help us win this game. There’s a lot riding on it. It’s not just senior day.”

Elgas, whose program will be at home against BYU, will keep an eye on the K-State result.

“If they could get this big win, it would make a lot of us happy,” Elgas said.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

March 03, 2007, 02:18:13 AM
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The only thing that will make me cry is us losing to OU today.

March 03, 2007, 02:23:36 AM
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wont happen.


great story. cartier and lance deserve something great. im all out of generic replies.
We all know there's been a conspiracy. Only the failures have been recorded.
We all pay too much attention to Icarus, and not enough to his father.

March 03, 2007, 03:17:45 AM
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What I would do for another Massey.

Do you have enough footage for a Massey highlight video?

March 03, 2007, 03:35:16 AM
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Cartier deserves something great. Lance deserves something great about half the time.

March 03, 2007, 09:03:05 AM
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they forgot williams!!!  and, i loved massey.  still do.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

March 03, 2007, 09:13:58 AM
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Good story but I just couldn't muster a tear out for that one.   :lol:  No death, no heartbreak, just kids playing basketball.  Now this is a story I could understand someone getting emotional about:  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17416735/

March 03, 2007, 09:15:51 AM
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kids die all the time.  ksu bball is more important.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

March 03, 2007, 09:39:11 AM
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Yae will leave K-State as my favorite hoops player, surpassing Anthony Beane on my list.

March 03, 2007, 09:44:46 AM
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Yae will leave K-State as my favorite hoops player, surpassing Anthony Beane on my list.

i like 'ier a lot too.  i think he might be just outside the top five.  will scott is probably my favorite.  keith amerson, jeff wires, massey, richmond, maybe martin 6th.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

March 03, 2007, 09:50:51 AM
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Yae will leave K-State as my favorite hoops player, surpassing Anthony Beane on my list.

i like 'ier a lot too.  i think he might be just outside the top five.  will scott is probably my favorite.  keith amerson, jeff wires, massey, richmond, maybe martin 6th.

Amerson was cool, Wires too  :love: :love: Great picks
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Remember Marcus Ziegler??


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

New warning: Don't get in a fight with someone who doesn't even need to bother to buy ink.

March 03, 2007, 10:22:25 AM
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a Massey mix tape would make my year. he was one of the funnest guys to watch play the game, period.


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March 03, 2007, 11:13:38 AM
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do any of you guys remember Jeff Wires making an absolutely unbelievable steal on ku's guard (i forget which) during what was his (Wires) senior season (i think), where their guard stole the ball from Jeff and was taking it in for what he surely thought was an easy layup, when Wires comes into the tv screen about 8 ft in the air, damn near upside down and grabs the ball out of the guys hands and takes off going back the other way???   :eek: :beerchug:

I swear it was the most athletic thing I've ever seen, the speed it took to even get close, let alone what he then did.   :katpak: :katpak: :katpak:
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March 03, 2007, 11:19:21 AM
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I remember the play.  The ref blew the whistle anticipating a foul and then had to call jump ball.  My fav ksu ball player?  Prolly Brian Gavin   :lol:

March 03, 2007, 12:16:44 PM
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Massey is my all time fav, too bad his teams sucked.

March 03, 2007, 12:27:22 PM
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Massey Clips:

My fav::: watch the follow on the shot    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j6uFahanTs

One of trips vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW-_zkxeHT8
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March 03, 2007, 12:37:56 PM
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"Former Big XII POY Jeremiah Massey"....LOL, nice touch fats. :)

March 03, 2007, 12:45:14 PM
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Another nice one from The Cap Journal.  Good stuff about Yae.

NCAA tournament bid top priority for Martin
K-State's sixth man is sixth on K-State's all-time scoring list
By Tim Bisel
The Capital-Journal
Published Saturday, March 03, 2007
MANHATTAN — For all his made field goals, Cartier Martin can't help but lament Kansas State's near-misses.

The 6-foot-7 senior has enjoyed one of the finest individual careers in Wildcat history, but when he stops to reflect it his first thoughts turn to mediocrity.

"I just think we've always been a team that was right there, but we never quite got there," Martin said. "Now we're trying to get there still."

That's everything you need to know about Martin. With him, it isn't about his 159 treys or 483 field goals. It's all about we, all about team.

It will be again today when he and four other seniors play Oklahoma at 2:30 p.m. in their final regular-season game at Bramlage Coliseum.

With a win, the Wildcats (20-10, 9-6 Big 12) would clinch the No. 4 seed to next week's Big 12 Tournament and take a significant step toward reaching the NCAA Tournament for the first time since 1996.

"If we can win, I can finally say we got over the hump," Martin said.

Right or wrong, Martin believes one more victory will make K-State a lock to play in the NCAA tourney, which is exactly what he had in mind when he came to K-State in 2003 from Houston's Aldine Nimitz High.

Former coach Jim Wooldridge lured the top-100 recruit from heavyweights such as Texas, Kentucky, Oklahoma State and OU.

"He's a special kid to me," said Wooldridge, who is now the major gifts development officer at Texas State. "You know, we went through a dogfight to get him. He came to us with the attitude that I'm excited about being here, I want to make things better and I want you to help me improve."

That attitude never changed. Martin overcame a stress fracture in his foot as a freshman and a sliced finger as a sophomore and a suspension last May for an unspecified conduct violation.

But nothing better illustrates Martin's willingness to contribute in any way than his role this season. Since mid-January, he has started on the bench because coach Bob Huggins says he can't afford to have Martin and junior David Hoskins saddled with early foul trouble.

Not once has the Big 12's No. 8 scorer balked about being No. 6 in the Wildcats' rotation.

"Cartier's been terrific with me," Huggins said. "Cartier's bought in to what we're trying to do and he's worked really hard. The way he goes about things has been very positive."

The appproach has helped Martin position himself among the greatest players ever to wear a Wildcat uniform. With 1,442 points, he is sixth on K-State's career scoring list, just below Mike Evans, Rolando Blackman, Askia Jones, Bob Boozer and Steve Henson.

Martin also ranks among the school's top 10 in 10 other categories and is one of only three Wildcats — Boozer and Blackman are the others — with more than 1,400 points and 500 rebounds.

"If you look at his career, he just got better and better and better," Wooldridge said. "That's what it's all about.

"His efforts and his accomplishments stand up for what they are. If people want to evaluate him as one of the great K-Staters, I'd vote for him."

Martin admits he is honored to be mentioned among such elite names and that he is proud of his personal accomplishments.

"The last couple weeks I've kind of been thinking about that," he said when asked about his Wildcat legacy. "It's definitely something I can tell my children down the road."

The kids should be in for a treat. Martin can tell them how he scored 14 points and deposited a key putback to help K-State end a 31-game losing streak to Kansas. Or how he gunned downed No. 22 Texas with seven 3-pointers and 27 points. Or how he posted at least 20 points in four of five games to start his junior season.

But the story Martin really wants to share has yet to be written. That's the one about him being part of a K-State team that stopped missing and finally made a splash.

"I've put a lot into being a part of Kansas State and just helping the program as much as I can," he said. "That would be a fantastic way to go out.

"Right now, I'll do whatever to help my team get to the NCAA Tournament, and hopefully we can make some noise. That'd be an even bigger legacy for me."

Ann Williamson / The Capital-Journal
Cartier Martin (20) worked hard at improving for previous coach Jim Wooldridge, and he doesn't balk at coming off the bench for Bob Huggins.OKLAHOMA

AT KANSAS STATE

TIPOFF — 2:38 p.m. today, Bramlage Coliseum, Manhattan.

RECORDS — Oklahoma 15-13, 6-9 Big 12; Kansas State 20-10, 9-6.

TV — KTKA (49).

RADIO — KDVV-FM (100.3).

SERIES — Oklahoma leads, 101-87.

NEXT GAME — Thursday or Friday at Big 12 Tournament in Oklahoma City.


CARTIER'S CAREER

Entering today's 2:30 p.m. game against Oklahoma, senior Cartier Martin ranks among Kansas State's top 10 in 11 career categories.

Rk. Category Stats

3. 3-pointers made 159

4. 3-pointers attempted 398

4. Minutes 2,915

5. 3-point percentage 40.0

6. Points 1,442

7. Field goals made 483

8. Field goals attempted 1,058

8. 20-point games 26

8. Free throws attempted 405

9. Free throws made 317

10. Games started 72

March 03, 2007, 01:36:22 PM
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Nice feel good articles...

Possibly neither of those would have to have been written (aside from Martin's accomplishments as a scorer), had they not blew last minute leads in conference play last year....