Starting Lineup Thread

[ksuno1stunner]

5 - B-Easy
4 - D-Hoss
3 - Sky Walker
2 - Rapist
1 - Stew

[atybimf]

 

[fatty fat fat]

5 - B-Easy
4 - D-Hoss
3 - Sky Walker
2 - Rapist
1 - Stew

36-3 (16-0)

Anything less will be a disappointment

[ksuno1stunner]

5 - B-Easy
4 - D-Hoss
3 - Sky Walker
2 - Rapist
1 - Stew

36-3 (16-0)

Anything less will be a disappointment

Who's going to beat us in the non-conference?

39-0 NC

[hemmy]

 

[ksu_FAN]

My breakdown by minutes:
My early projections:
Stewart 25 MPG, Pullen 10 MPG
Evans 20 MPG, Young, 15 MPG, Brown 10 MPG
Walker 25 MPG, Hoskins 25 MPG
Beasley 25 MPG, Sutton 10 MPG, JUCO Big 10
Bennett 15 MPG, Colon 10 MPG

[PowercatPosse]

I see 6 guys battling time for the 3-4-5 spots......

Beasley 30 min
Walker 30 min
Hoskins 28 min
Bennett 15 min
Sutton 10 min
Colon 7 min

5 guys battling for the 1-2 spots
Stewart 24 min
Pullen  19 min
Evans 20 min
Young 10 min
Brown 7 min

I could see one of the bigs (lets say JB) stepping and Lou not getting much time at all.
Same goes for the guards.  I really think Pullen will play, but Brown just being a frosh could be the 5th guard and might not play a lot.

So basicly I think we will have a 9 man rotation with 2 other guys playing some games and some games not playing.

[swish1]

why not redshirt brown or even sutton?  there is no reason to have an 11 man rotation.

[Leyton]

"why not redshirt brown or even sutton?  there is no reason to have an 11 man rotation."

No decent player ever redshirts anymore.  Ever.

[swish1]

"why not redshirt brown or even sutton?  there is no reason to have an 11 man rotation."

No decent player ever redshirts anymore.  Ever.

and that is why teams from the missouri valley can compete against teams from the power conferences.

[chum1]

LOL @ our football fanbase

[sys]

My breakdown by minutes:
My early projections:
Stewart 25 MPG, Pullen 10 MPG
Evans 20 MPG, Young, 15 MPG, Brown 10 MPG
Walker 25 MPG, Hoskins 25 MPG
Beasley 25 MPG, Sutton 10 MPG, JUCO Big 10
Bennett 15 MPG, Colon 10 MPG

i don´t think we need a 12 man rotation.  why not get the better players more minutes.

stew 25, young 20, pullen 2
evans 30, brown 3
walker 30, hoskins 30
beasley 30, sutton 5, juco 15
bennett 10 

[michigancat]

"why not redshirt brown or even sutton?  there is no reason to have an 11 man rotation."

No decent player ever redshirts anymore.  Ever.

McDonald's All-American Brian Butch (rated higher than Aldrich) redshirted at Wisconsin.

[cireksu]

I could maybe see Brown or Pullen redshirting. 

I think it will take a while for tyree to get accustomed to playing in the big 12, he will come in not having played organized ball for a while, like walker.  Doubt he'll contribute a ton until the big12 gets rolling.

[sys]

he will come in not having played organized ball for a while, like walker.  Doubt he'll contribute a ton until the big12 gets rolling.

walker played a ton of minutes from the start, without being able to practice.

evans will have all summer and fall to practice, he´ll be as ready as anyone else at the opener.

[WildCatzPhreak]

I like Colon's attitude, his work ethic, and his "don't &@#% with me or I'll knock you the &@#% out" way of thinking on the court, but he's still learning basketball and is a step or two slower than every other player on the court.

JB has pretty good potential, but he needs to work on his hands more.  I loved that putback against Okie State.  If he could do that 2 or more 3 times per game he'd be our #1 center and running away with it, instead of basically splitting minutes with Colon, Afeli, Kent, and 'going small.'  He's just got to be aggressive enough to go after the ball, and make sure he actually holds onto it instead of just knocking it out of bounds like he used to do so often.

I do see him improving pretty rapidly though.




It's funny.  Stew has been bagged on by a lot of people throughout his years, but next year he's going to be the senior, experienced point guard that really glues the team together.  Walker and Beasley have the talent, Stew and Hoskins have the ethic and experience, and Huggs has the winning mentality.


FWIW, I don't think Huggs has ever had such a talented team in the starting five.  I know he's gone to a final 4 before, and I think that was with Kenyon Martin?  Some of you Cinci guys help me out?  (Sorry, I'm still young and didn't follow college ball until I got to K-state.)

But I'm pretty sure this lineup will be the best in terms of talent that he's ever had.
G: Stewart
G: Evans
F: Hoskins
F: Walker
F: Beasley

[ksu_FAN]

My breakdown by minutes:
My early projections:
Stewart 25 MPG, Pullen 10 MPG
Evans 20 MPG, Young, 15 MPG, Brown 10 MPG
Walker 25 MPG, Hoskins 25 MPG
Beasley 25 MPG, Sutton 10 MPG, JUCO Big 10
Bennett 15 MPG, Colon 10 MPG

i don´t think we need a 12 man rotation.  why not get the better players more minutes.

stew 25, young 20, pullen 2
evans 30, brown 3
walker 30, hoskins 30
beasley 30, sutton 5, juco 15
bennett 10 

Yeah, its hard to juggle the numbers, especially with Sutton, Brown, and Pullen.  I'm anxious to see what he does with Beasley's and Walker's minutes as well.  It will be hard to keep them off the floor, but I'm sure he'll try to keep them at 30 or under, though that may increase in Big 12 play.  Huggs has said over and over that Hoskins is better playing fewer minutes, so 25 seems about right for him.  I think Stew's minutes could decrease, but only if Pullen and Brown prove they can earn some minutes.  I do think Sutton might be a surprise and get some minutes b/c of what he brings.  It'll be interesting to see what a healthy Young can do.  And finally, juggling the bigs, especially Bennett and Colon mixed with a possible new JUCO player will be interesting to watch, and of course be determined a lot by match-ups. 

[cireksu]

I'm one that thinks Colon and Bennett both have upside, although bennett has much more.  If they can average anywhere near a combined double double that would be unbelievable but I would take a combined 8 and 6 from them next year in about 15-20 combined minutes a game.

[ksu_FAN]

I'm one that thinks Colon and Bennett both have upside, although bennett has much more.  If they can average anywhere near a combined double double that would be unbelievable but I would take a combined 8 and 6 from them next year in about 15-20 combined minutes a game.

Agree.  I posted this on GP:

MIN FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG TPG BPG SPG PPG
96-97 Cincinnati 10.6 65.0 0.0 31.3 3.4 0.5 0.7 1.1 0.6 2.8
97-98 Cincinnati 28.6 62.6 0.0 47.6 8.9 1.4 2.1 2.8 1.0 9.9
98-99 Cincinnati 27.3 57.3 0.0 56.2 6.9 1.5 2.0 2.4 1.1 10.1
99-00 Cincinnati 29.3 56.8 28.6 68.4 9.7 1.4 1.8 3.4 1.4 18.9
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TOTALS 25.0 58.6 22.2 58.1 7.5 1.2 1.7 2.5 1.1 11.0

Martin was a bit different player, but I'll trust Huggs' development of talent on this one. By no means am I saying that Bennett or Colon will be the caliber of Martin, but they will get better.

In reality, the key with both of these players will be how hard they work with Greenawalt. Both can become better players just by getting stronger. The problem with each right now is they are too weak and too easily get pushed around in the post. Neither had obviously had any workin the weightroom before coming here and I think we'll all be surprise by how much improvement they can make just by getting stronger. Hopefully by the time next november rolls around Colon will be a much stronger 270 and Bennett will be about 285 with another 20 pounds of muscle.

[WildCatzPhreak]

Honestly, Colon seems like the one that would be a 'force' in the paint if you're talking about shere muscle power.  The dude works hard.  And he gets pissed when other people don't.  Remember when he knocked JB the &@#% out for being lazy in the weight room?  We need more of that attitude going around.

If JB had that attitude/ethic, he'd be leaps and bounds better than he is now.

[ksu_FAN]

Honestly, Colon seems like the one that would be a 'force' in the paint if you're talking about shere muscle power.  The dude works hard.  And he gets pissed when other people don't.  Remember when he knocked JB the &*$@! out for being lazy in the weight room?  We need more of that attitude going around.

If JB had that attitude/ethic, he'd be leaps and bounds better than he is now.

I think Colon has the better potential to be an offensive player in the post.  He has the body to be like a Kevin Bookout if he wants to be that type of player, but he'd not quite that athletic.  Bennett is a bit different, but he can be very good.  I think his game on the offensive end will be to overpower people and have a bunch of dunks. 

Huggins has said positive things about Bennett's work ethic all season.  His maturity might be an issue, but I think he's willing to work.