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[ednksu]

 

[wiley03]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches." 

 

[K-ST8ED]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches." 

 

Did he really say that?? If so, WOW! Anyone have a recap?

[ksu_FAN]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches." 

 

Did he really say that?? If so, WOW! Anyone have a recap?

Yeah, this is kind of a big deal.

[mikeycat]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches." 

 

which actually isn't true based on what I was able to compile from media reports.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1MjnWshHhQvu6ThgCbKPyQ?feat=directlink

[QuinnMac]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches." 

 

which actually isn't true based on what I was able to compile from media reports.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1MjnWshHhQvu6ThgCbKPyQ?feat=directlink

+1 I think Frank slipped up or something is out of context.

[Jeffrey_Martin]

No, he's right. McDermott is at $850K; he signed a deal starting t $650K in 2006, and he receives a raise of $50,000 every year. And Drew - that figure you quoted is woefully low. First of all, Baylor is a private school and figures don't have to be disclosed. But if anyone thinks he's under a $1 million after taking the Bears to the tournament - he just received an extension - is crazy.

[jester66]

Technically, he's right.
But he's also somewhat disingenuous on this topic.
Frank made the decision (rightfully so) to pay Dalonte a higher wage than most of his contemporaries.  He knew that extra cash (approximately 250k) was comming out of his pocket.  You put that money in Frank's pocket and he's right at a cool mill.

Now he does deserve to be making more; but he's got to also realize he's put KSU and himself in a rather unique situation due to Dalonte's contract.  Pretty sure once Te leaves for his opportunity to be a head coach; Frank's going to get a healthy chunk of that cash back.

[steve dave]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches."  

 

which actually isn't true based on what I was able to compile from media reports.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1MjnWshHhQvu6ThgCbKPyQ?feat=directlink

See my updated salary post in the contract thread mikeycat

nvm, I'll just paste it

Self   3M
Barnes   2M
Anderson   1.55M
Ford   1.3M
Turgeon   1.2M
Knight 1.2M
Capel   1.05M
Drew   > 1M (can't find anything other than someone confirming it's more than 1M per and I would guess it's around 1.2-1.4)
McDermott 850K
BzDelik   800k
Doc   800K
Frank   760K

[wiley03]

Nick: Frank you are the second lowest payed coach in the big12...
Frank: Actually Nick, I"m the lowest

hard to change that context.

[K-ST8ED]

You can listen to the podcast here for those that didnt hear it.
http://www.610sports.com/pages/5275098.php?

[QuinnMac]

Nick: Frank you are the second lowest payed coach in the big12...
Frank: Actually Nick, I"m the lowest

hard to change that context.

Nope you are absolute correct. As long as that is a direct quote, which I believe it to be.
This is news to me though that he is the lowest paid coach in conference.

[mikeycat]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches."  

 

which actually isn't true based on what I was able to compile from media reports.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1MjnWshHhQvu6ThgCbKPyQ?feat=directlink

See my updated salary post in the contract thread mikeycat

nvm, I'll just paste it

Self   3M
Barnes   2M
Anderson   1.55M
Ford   1.3M
Turgeon   1.2M
Knight 1.2M
Capel   1.05M
Drew   > 1M (can't find anything other than someone confirming it's more than 1M per and I would guess it's around 1.2-1.4)
McDermott 850K
BzDelik   800k
Doc   800K
Frank   760K

Dude, I just spend half an hour making my spreadsheet, googling sources I listed.    The numbers I listed are confirmed contract figures excpet for BU.     Drew was paid $412k in 2007.   Media reports at the time were quite clear he would be making less than the $600k that Bliss was making.     Now, I was unable to find a source for his current contract, nor any speculation.     Link to your source?

This February 2009 article says Drew is making $521k.    You have to remember that BU is entirely private and a religious instiution, and they are going to pay a lot less than the going rate.

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/articles/2009/02/23/private_schools_pay_up/?page=2

[Pete]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches."  

 

which actually isn't true based on what I was able to compile from media reports.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1MjnWshHhQvu6ThgCbKPyQ?feat=directlink

See my updated salary post in the contract thread mikeycat

nvm, I'll just paste it

Self   3M
Barnes   2M
Anderson   1.55M
Ford   1.3M
Turgeon   1.2M
Knight 1.2M
Capel   1.05M
Drew   > 1M (can't find anything other than someone confirming it's more than 1M per and I would guess it's around 1.2-1.4)
McDermott 850K
BzDelik   800k
Doc   800K
Frank   760K

Dude, I just spend half an hour making my spreadsheet, googling sources I listed.    The numbers I listed are confirmed contract figures excpet for BU.     Drew was paid $412k in 2007.   Media reports at the time were quite clear he would be making less than the $600k that Bliss was making.     Now, I was unable to find a source for his current contract, nor any speculation.     Link to your source?

Let me get this strait....You are saying that your 30 minute Google easter egg hunt has more credibility than Franks direct quote and J-Mart's conversations with those who make a profession out of this stuff?   Is this correct?

[mikeycat]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches."  

 

which actually isn't true based on what I was able to compile from media reports.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1MjnWshHhQvu6ThgCbKPyQ?feat=directlink

See my updated salary post in the contract thread mikeycat

nvm, I'll just paste it

Self   3M
Barnes   2M
Anderson   1.55M
Ford   1.3M
Turgeon   1.2M
Knight 1.2M
Capel   1.05M
Drew   > 1M (can't find anything other than someone confirming it's more than 1M per and I would guess it's around 1.2-1.4)
McDermott 850K
BzDelik   800k
Doc   800K
Frank   760K

Dude, I just spend half an hour making my spreadsheet, googling sources I listed.    The numbers I listed are confirmed contract figures excpet for BU.     Drew was paid $412k in 2007.   Media reports at the time were quite clear he would be making less than the $600k that Bliss was making.     Now, I was unable to find a source for his current contract, nor any speculation.     Link to your source?

Let me get this strait....You are saying that your 30 minute Google easter egg hunt has more credibility than Franks direct quote and J-Mart's conversations with those who make a profession out of this stuff?   Is this correct?

I am saying that based on the reports, many of them direct from the schools linked in my spreadsheet show that at least 2 coaches publicly are bing paid less than Frank.   Now, he may be wrapping in other compensation that is not publicly made available, or maybe he just has more up to date info, but every number I found was based on contract terms reported.

And I haven't seen J Mart say anything about Frank being the lowest paid.

[Pete]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches."  

 

which actually isn't true based on what I was able to compile from media reports.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1MjnWshHhQvu6ThgCbKPyQ?feat=directlink

See my updated salary post in the contract thread mikeycat

nvm, I'll just paste it

Self   3M
Barnes   2M
Anderson   1.55M
Ford   1.3M
Turgeon   1.2M
Knight 1.2M
Capel   1.05M
Drew   > 1M (can't find anything other than someone confirming it's more than 1M per and I would guess it's around 1.2-1.4)
McDermott 850K
BzDelik   800k
Doc   800K
Frank   760K

Dude, I just spend half an hour making my spreadsheet, googling sources I listed.    The numbers I listed are confirmed contract figures excpet for BU.     Drew was paid $412k in 2007.   Media reports at the time were quite clear he would be making less than the $600k that Bliss was making.     Now, I was unable to find a source for his current contract, nor any speculation.     Link to your source?

Let me get this strait....You are saying that your 30 minute Google easter egg hunt has more credibility than Franks direct quote and J-Mart's conversations with those who make a profession out of this stuff?   Is this correct?

I am saying that based on the reports, many of them direct from the schools linked in my spreadsheet show that at least 2 coaches publicly are bing paid less than Frank.   Now, he may be wrapping in other compensation that is not publicly made available, or maybe he just has more up to date info, but every number I found was based on contract terms reported.

And I haven't seen J Mart say anything about Frank being the lowest paid.

A fair point.  So, do you believe that Frank is mis-informed, lying, or you are misinformed?  Those are our three options.  There are no others.

[QuinnMac]

I think JMart did his work by starting that exploding thread.

[mikeycat]

No, he's right. McDermott is at $850K; he signed a deal starting t $650K in 2006, and he receives a raise of $50,000 every year. And Drew - that figure you quoted is woefully low. First of all, Baylor is a private school and figures don't have to be disclosed. But if anyone thinks he's under a $1 million after taking the Bears to the tournament - he just received an extension - is crazy.

I just re-read the terms of McDermott.   I did have an error by $50k.    McDermott signed a contract extension in March 06 paying him $650k plus $50k a year raise, so $700k in 07, $750k in 08, and 800k in 09.

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/articles/2006/03/28/sports/20060328-archive0.txt

Unless you have a better source, Bzdelik is still paid $750k at CU.   http://colorado.scout.com/2/637062.html

[WillieWannabe]

You can listen to the podcast here for those that didnt hear it.
http://www.610sports.com/pages/5275098.php?

The Frank quote isnt up yet is it? Or am i missing something?

[Jeffrey_Martin]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches."  

 

which actually isn't true based on what I was able to compile from media reports.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1MjnWshHhQvu6ThgCbKPyQ?feat=directlink

See my updated salary post in the contract thread mikeycat

nvm, I'll just paste it

Self   3M
Barnes   2M
Anderson   1.55M
Ford   1.3M
Turgeon   1.2M
Knight 1.2M
Capel   1.05M
Drew   > 1M (can't find anything other than someone confirming it's more than 1M per and I would guess it's around 1.2-1.4)
McDermott 850K
BzDelik   800k
Doc   800K
Frank   760K

Dude, I just spend half an hour making my spreadsheet, googling sources I listed.    The numbers I listed are confirmed contract figures excpet for BU.     Drew was paid $412k in 2007.   Media reports at the time were quite clear he would be making less than the $600k that Bliss was making.     Now, I was unable to find a source for his current contract, nor any speculation.     Link to your source?

This February 2009 article says Drew is making $521k.    You have to remember that BU is entirely private and a religious instiution, and they are going to pay a lot less than the going rate.

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/articles/2009/02/23/private_schools_pay_up/?page=2

You're quoting from a story that says in the first or second paragraph that it's information derived from a 2007 tax filing. Trust me, no chance Scott Drew is making less than a $1 million per. No chance.

[kcchiefdav]

JMart has proven that he's still the most important reporter in the state even thought he's out of the state...Which is why Frank Martin called JMart and told him to get the ball rolling on this thing. I wonder how much of Frank's raise goes to JMart's gratuity.

[mikeycat]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches."  

 

which actually isn't true based on what I was able to compile from media reports.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1MjnWshHhQvu6ThgCbKPyQ?feat=directlink

See my updated salary post in the contract thread mikeycat

nvm, I'll just paste it

Self   3M
Barnes   2M
Anderson   1.55M
Ford   1.3M
Turgeon   1.2M
Knight 1.2M
Capel   1.05M
Drew   > 1M (can't find anything other than someone confirming it's more than 1M per and I would guess it's around 1.2-1.4)
McDermott 850K
BzDelik   800k
Doc   800K
Frank   760K

Dude, I just spend half an hour making my spreadsheet, googling sources I listed.    The numbers I listed are confirmed contract figures excpet for BU.     Drew was paid $412k in 2007.   Media reports at the time were quite clear he would be making less than the $600k that Bliss was making.     Now, I was unable to find a source for his current contract, nor any speculation.     Link to your source?

Let me get this strait....You are saying that your 30 minute Google easter egg hunt has more credibility than Franks direct quote and J-Mart's conversations with those who make a profession out of this stuff?   Is this correct?

I am saying that based on the reports, many of them direct from the schools linked in my spreadsheet show that at least 2 coaches publicly are bing paid less than Frank.   Now, he may be wrapping in other compensation that is not publicly made available, or maybe he just has more up to date info, but every number I found was based on contract terms reported.

And I haven't seen J Mart say anything about Frank being the lowest paid.

A fair point.  So, do you believe that Frank is mis-informed, lying, or you are misinformed?  Those are our three options.  There are no others.

no, like I said, he's probably including other compensation.   But KSU has no control over shoe contracts, appearance fees, etc. so it's not fair to judge the contract terms based on that.   Part of that onus is on the coach and his agent to negotiate with those entities.

[Pete]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches."  

 

which actually isn't true based on what I was able to compile from media reports.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1MjnWshHhQvu6ThgCbKPyQ?feat=directlink

See my updated salary post in the contract thread mikeycat

nvm, I'll just paste it

Self   3M
Barnes   2M
Anderson   1.55M
Ford   1.3M
Turgeon   1.2M
Knight 1.2M
Capel   1.05M
Drew   > 1M (can't find anything other than someone confirming it's more than 1M per and I would guess it's around 1.2-1.4)
McDermott 850K
BzDelik   800k
Doc   800K
Frank   760K

Dude, I just spend half an hour making my spreadsheet, googling sources I listed.    The numbers I listed are confirmed contract figures excpet for BU.     Drew was paid $412k in 2007.   Media reports at the time were quite clear he would be making less than the $600k that Bliss was making.     Now, I was unable to find a source for his current contract, nor any speculation.     Link to your source?

This February 2009 article says Drew is making $521k.    You have to remember that BU is entirely private and a religious instiution, and they are going to pay a lot less than the going rate.

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/articles/2009/02/23/private_schools_pay_up/?page=2

You're quoting from a story that says in the first or second paragraph that it's information derived from a 2007 tax filing. Trust me, no chance Scott Drew is making less than a $1 million per. No chance.

The other part of this is that Frank's agent surely knows what Drew is making, or at the least has some very sophisticated intelligence on this.  Frank's not going to pop off like that without his agent providing him some solid facts.

In either case, we are splitting hairs.  Frank is effectively the lowest paid coach in the Big 12, or he's in a very, very tight race to be the lowest.

[Jeffrey_Martin]

JMart has proven that he's still the most important reporter in the state even thought he's out of the state...Which is why Frank Martin called JMart and told him to get the ball rolling on this thing. I wonder how much of Frank's raise goes to JMart's gratuity.

Seriously, no conversations of the sort have occurred between me and Frank.

[michigancat]

Jeff - why is Frank doing this?  If he's unhappy or feels slighted, he should just leave.

[steve dave]

Frank to Nick:

"Actually i'm ranked last in salary of Big 12 coaches."  

 

which actually isn't true based on what I was able to compile from media reports.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1MjnWshHhQvu6ThgCbKPyQ?feat=directlink

See my updated salary post in the contract thread mikeycat

nvm, I'll just paste it

Self   3M
Barnes   2M
Anderson   1.55M
Ford   1.3M
Turgeon   1.2M
Knight 1.2M
Capel   1.05M
Drew   > 1M (can't find anything other than someone confirming it's more than 1M per and I would guess it's around 1.2-1.4)
McDermott 850K
BzDelik   800k
Doc   800K
Frank   760K

Dude, I just spend half an hour making my spreadsheet, googling sources I listed.    The numbers I listed are confirmed contract figures excpet for BU.     Drew was paid $412k in 2007.   Media reports at the time were quite clear he would be making less than the $600k that Bliss was making.     Now, I was unable to find a source for his current contract, nor any speculation.     Link to your source?

This February 2009 article says Drew is making $521k.    You have to remember that BU is entirely private and a religious instiution, and they are going to pay a lot less than the going rate.

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/articles/2009/02/23/private_schools_pay_up/?page=2

Oh man, you used Google! 

[K-ST8ED]

You can listen to the podcast here for those that didnt hear it.
http://www.610sports.com/pages/5275098.php?

The Frank quote isnt up yet is it? Or am i missing something?

No, its on the podcast if you listen to it. Wright says, "Coach, looking at the figures, you are about the 10th highest paid coach in the Big 12." Wright asked something to the effect if he thinks that's fair. Franks says, " Well, if people do a little research, they'll see that I am actually last in the in the Big 12."
WOW. GET THIS MAN PAID CURRIE!!!!!!!!!

[sys]

Jeff - why is Frank doing this?  If he's unhappy or feels slighted, he should just leave.

if you're a glass half full type, it's obviously a good sign.  he's efforting to be paid at kstate.  he wouldn't bother if he knew he'd leave asap.

[KITNfury]

You can listen to the podcast here for those that didnt hear it.
http://www.610sports.com/pages/5275098.php?

The Frank quote isnt up yet is it? Or am i missing something?

No, its on the podcast if you listen to it. Wright says, "Coach, looking at the figures, you are about the 10th highest paid coach in the Big 12." Wright asked something to the effect if he thinks that's fair. Franks says, " Well, if people do a little research, they'll see that I am actually last in the in the Big 12."
WOW. GET THIS MAN PAID CURRIE!!!!!!!!!

Which podcast is it?

[Skipper44]

I think Frank is doing it to get a commitment to the program more than his own bank account.

Remember, Frank was here when Weiser was giving himself 500k loans and Krause was giving Prince whatever millions he ends up with, he may not have a lot of sympathy for the "We will pay what we can, we are a unique situation" routine.

I am actually encouraged that Frank has said and done (Jmart leak) what he has.  If he wanted out, he could just ride out this year and then go somewhere else at the end of the season (any ACC, BE or SEC job that has an AD that needs to win, DePaul would be a good fit, wouldn't it?