Mizzou to Big 10?

[Wildcat Jack]

MU to Big10 is nothing but delusions of grandeur....which seems about right from that toothless bunch of meth-heads.

B10 is holding their one additional spot for Notre Dame, nothing else makes sense.   ND is beginning to see the folly of maintaining independence.  Even NBC is gonna figure out they could do better than showing gold-domers gettin' their arse whipped every saturday.  1 BCS bowl every five years is not gonna get it done....and one thing the BCS playoff is demonstrating is that you gotta be a part of a conference.

[WildcatNkilt]

tcu doesn't have the fan support to be in the big 12.  They are a top 10 team and at one point had under 25,000 in attendance for a home game.  Would love to see Iowa join the Big 12 though.  Get rid of CU?

[GP76]

Goddamn those tards are hilarious. They actually think they'd bring more fans to a bowl than Iowa State

Heard on KMOX last night that ISU had sold 5000 tickets to their bowl and MU had sold 4200.  I am awed by the support these two programs have.

[Ben Ji 2.0]

Mini divisions with the winners advancing to a playoff for the big 12 title.

I just went from 6 to midnight thinking about this.

Mini 1

TX
TX A&M
Baylor

Mini 2

OK
OK St
TX Tch

Mini 3

Kansas State
Kansas
Missouri

Mini 4

Colorado
NU
ISU


You could devise all sorts of crazy ways to decide who the winner of every pod plays. Say the winner of the Pod with the best winning % is the 1 seed and plays the winner of the pod with the lowest win %. You could even develop a system where 1 team from the pod changes every year but at least 2 of the original teams stay the same.


Its like a wet dream come true!

[FelixRex]

And MU hasn't ever made a Final Four, and hasn't been to a BCS level game since 1969.

that's the reason they want to leave dumbfvk.  cuz they got screwed out of BCS when you backed into it in 07.  as members of the big 10 they wouldn't get bent over in the same situation.

edit: plus the big 10 doesn't care whether or not they have a winning pedigree.  they want $/tv sets

They continually get "screwed" out of bowl games because they have poor fan support, and the ones who do show up make asses out of themselves. Yet another great attribute to bring to the Big 10.

When bowls would rather have ku (bad fan support) and Iowa State (good, not outstanding fan support) than your school, it's time to realize that the conference might not be the problem ... dumbfvk.

I like how this board brings out flare's feisty side.

[Thin Blue Line]

Who would replace Mizzou if they went Big 10?

Iowa 

 

[to.kat]

Tim Griffin gave his infinite wisdom on why Mizzou would listen:

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/8421/8421

According to him the B10 wouldn't want Nub because it doesn't touch Iowa.

[MadCat]

According to him the B10 wouldn't want Nub because it doesn't touch Iowa.

  Must be that new Texas geography.

[waks]

Do they really think they'd have better favor in the Big 10? I'd bet that Ohio State, Michigan, etc. have the same pull as the top 4 in the Big 12.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Do they really think they'd have better favor in the Big 10? I'd bet that Ohio State, Michigan, etc. have the same pull as the top 4 in the Big 12.

Exactly.  And then it would be Indiana or Minnesota jumping them for the Poulan Weedeater bowl.

[willie83]

The Big10 would go after Moo for one reason, the STL and KC tv market to add to the Big10 Network.

[sonofdaxjones]

Bring on Arkansas.   

[Leyton]

Why wouldn't Mizzou be treated like a red-headed step child in the Big 10?  As others have said, they'd be at/near the bottom in terms of academic reputation, and their athletics programs have been pretty shoddy recently too.  I contend that they'd be treated even MORE poorly if they were to join the Big 10.  They would have the weakest overall portfolio in the conference.  LOLz.

[Guscat]

Why wouldn't Mizzou be treated like a red-headed step child in the Big 10?  As others have said, they'd be at/near the bottom in terms of academic reputation, and their athletics programs have been pretty shoddy recently too.  I contend that they'd be treated even MORE poorly if they were to join the Big 10.  They would have the weakest overall portfolio in the conference.  LOLz.

How do you assess their academic ranking?  I hope it's not US News & World Report--see my comments above.  Believe me, Ohio State, Michigan, and Wisconsin have HUGE enrollments whose instructional quality are very difficult to maintain.  I think Mizzou would do just fine, and perhaps excel.  They have some excellent programs.

More discussion in this mornings KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/666/story/1633968.html

[Pete]

More discussion in this mornings KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/666/story/1633968.html

DeArmand is trash.  He's got no sources on this, he's got no facts....just a bunch of sour grapes and speculation.


However, I do agree that if the Big 10 wants them, Mizzou goes to the Big 10.  It's a better deal for weaker schools in a conference.  If you're not one of the biggest in the Big 12, you get deprived of a lot of benefits that the Big 10 provides ALL of it's schools.

Replacement would be a complete cluster &@#%.  There is NO WAY on God's green earth that Arkansas leaves the $EC for less exposure and revenue in the Big 12.  What are we left with then?  Cherry pick the best 9K enrollment private school in Texas/Oklahoma?  Crap facilities and apathetic fan bases from CSU or Missouri State?  Guess we could go after Utah, but good luck on that travel schedule.

It would hurt the Big 12 a ton if Mizzou left, and help Mizzou out a ton.

[cireksu]

Why wouldn't Mizzou be treated like a red-headed step child in the Big 10?  As others have said, they'd be at/near the bottom in terms of academic reputation, and their athletics programs have been pretty shoddy recently too.  I contend that they'd be treated even MORE poorly if they were to join the Big 10.  They would have the weakest overall portfolio in the conference.  LOLz.

no way.  Who cares about academics.  This is a sports move by the big 10.  they probably want a CCG.

Mizzou has good baseball great wrestling.  Football would hold it's own, and they'd be one of the better bball programs.

I agree, if they are offered they'd be dumb not to go.

[~WabashRoll~]

More discussion in this mornings KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/666/story/1633968.html

DeArmand is trash.  He's got no sources on this, he's got no facts....just a bunch of sour grapes and speculation.


However, I do agree that if the Big 10 wants them, Mizzou goes to the Big 10.  It's a better deal for weaker schools in a conference.  If you're not one of the biggest in the Big 12, you get deprived of a lot of benefits that the Big 10 provides ALL of it's schools.

Replacement would be a complete cluster frack.  There is NO WAY on God's green earth that Arkansas leaves the $EC for less exposure and revenue in the Big 12.  What are we left with then?  Cherry pick the best 9K enrollment private school in Texas/Oklahoma?  Crap facilities and apathetic fan bases from CSU or Missouri State?  Guess we could go after Utah, but good luck on that travel schedule.

It would hurt the Big 12 a ton if Mizzou left, and help Mizzou out a ton.

You're right, no way Arkansas leaves the SEC.  No way.

I think tcu actually might be logical.  Another Texas school, not a big enrollment and they're private, but they do have some serious financial support, their athletic programs can compete, and Dallas is a big market.

[outofstate]

Just what we need. Another Texas school...in Dallas no less.

[Pete]

Just what we need. Another Texas school...in Dallas no less.

I know, man, but when you look around there are very, very few qualified replacements.

Hell, our conference is already run by Texas, might as well make this &@#%er official.

[outofstate]

Why don't we let them have MU and another school. They can call themselves the BigXII (they can't count anyway) we become the Big ten and get their network too. 

[~WabashRoll~]

Just what we need. Another Texas school...in Dallas no less.

I know, man, but when you look around there are very, very few qualified replacements.

Hell, our conference is already run by Texas, might as well make this fracker official.

By adding tcu, we could then re-align the conference and put OU back in the North where they belong.  That way NU/OU could re-establish their annual game and OU could win the division every year and could stop worrying about Texas so much in the RRR.  All parties win here, folks, especially the State of Texas and Oklahoma, the two most important parts of the Big XII.

[outofstate]

 

[sonofdaxjones]

I was going to say tcu, but the one problem I see is that it puts a second private school in the South.

While Yes, tcu does have good financial backing, until the last 2 games of the regular season, they still weren't filling their football stadium.

However this would re-hash more of the old SWC rivalries for them, and they could keep the SMU intra-Metroplex rivalry on their OOC.   Thus giving them a strong slate of home games that would likely sell well, and given the access to Dallas visiting Big 12 teams would likely bring a strong number of fans as well. 

And yeah, you're right Arkansas probably doesn't leave the lucrative TV contract fo the SEC, and while it doesn't have massive impact, adding a school located directly in an MSA of 5.5 million people never hurts when your doing a TV contract.

[chum1]

SD nailed it.  CSU.  Total no brainer.  It's settled.

[MadCat]

I hear Tulsa has some TVs

[sonofdaxjones]

GTFOMF with CSU . . . they went 3-9 this year, 0 for the conference.

Last Fiscal Year CSU spent $22 million on athletics, tcu spent $46 million on atheltics, that's the same as K-State and several other Big 12 Schools.

tcu's Football Revenue was double CSU's football revenue.

[Thin Blue Line]

How bouts Tulsa, Pitt State? Hell, let's get Washburn in the mix....   

[chum1]

All the sh*t you guys are talking on CSU is the same kind of sh*t everyone else talks on us.  Maybe this proves my theory that we should move to the Mountain West.

[pissclams]

i could see k-state moving to the big 10 before any other b12 school.  we're the only ones with the academics and complete sports programs to make it.  on top of that we have the fanbase and you know the B10 would be licking their collective lips at gaining some traction in the sunflower state.

academics?  check.  one of the best research institutions in the country.
athletics?  check.  best football/basketball programs combo in the country.
fans/televisions?  check.  one of the best fanbases in the entire country.
in B10 country?  check.  geographically makes perfect sense.

[The42Yardstick]

fans/televisions?  check.  one of the best fanbases in the entire country.

Pffffffft you guys are WAY too angry for the Big 10. They already have to put up with Ohio State's angry asses and they only do that because they're Ohio State. You guys would pretty much upset the "meh" applecart