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November 12, 2009, 06:37:53 PM
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seems like there's two types of Catfans on this board-
Catfan A) likes the K-State Cats and supports his or her team AND coaches.
Catfan B) likes to bitch about the coaches and everything else in this world and would like to jump ship to a different program.

Catfan B is a dickhead    :lol:

Sorry Catfan B   :lol:


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November 12, 2009, 08:03:06 PM
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November 12, 2009, 08:32:46 PM
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SD-for reals question.

How much of the turnaround on the defensive side of the ball to you credit to snydes vs. VK/Cosh?  I have no insidery info/extensive fball knowledge, so from an outsiders perspective it's pretty tough to deny what a turnaround theres been on the defensive side of the ball. How much is snydes involved in gameplanning for D? Not too much would be my thoughts.

I wouldnt be ecstatic about VK as the next HC, but what he's done on D has been pretty solid so I could see why he would be next in line.  But very possible he's just another excellent D-Coord/terrible HC (mike stoops).

After the last fiasco its tough for me to see that this entire staff would be dumped and a brand new coach be brought in. More risk involved. Not saying thats right or wrong, just what i think might happen.

I'm prolly not the best person to ask.  TP or ksu_FAN, you wanna field this one?  :scared:

I'll answer - it's because all offenses in the league are worse.  In conference games, we've gone from 10th last year to 9th this year in YPP.

http://www.cfbstats.com/2008/leader/25354/team/defense/split07/category10/sort02.html

http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/leader/25354/team/defense/split07/category10/sort02.html

This year, there are 8 teams that have a better ypp average than the best team last year.

Just going to bump this amazing insight that was shamefully ignored.

No, most of us just found it really irrelevant.

November 12, 2009, 09:42:22 PM
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November 12, 2009, 10:19:09 PM
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Wow you are one angry person.

Can I ask you one question; why didn't Patterson come last November?

He was never offered the job.  Also, what from my post was angry? 
Wrong, he accepted the job from krause but wefald said no.(elite insidery type info)

November 12, 2009, 10:28:36 PM
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No doubt TOP is a major help in our defensive improvement.  We are holding onto the ball probably 5-7 minutes more than last year.

But its silly not to see that we are simply more sound.  How you line up at the snap is a major indicator on whether or not an offense can get an advantage.  You either have a sound alignment or you don't. 

I have on good authority an account of one of our opponents scouting our game last year.  Most great defenses will have a sound alinment 80% or more of the time, see ku under Bill Young.  Average defenses 50% or greater.  Might seem low, but its accurate.  In prepping for the Cats last year, an opponent found us to be sound 20-25% of the time.  Really a horrible statistic, especially when you aren't very talented.

November 13, 2009, 09:36:28 AM
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defense looks better because

1.  Offense is great at running the ball and not turning it over.

2.  teams are averaging 10 less plays per game.

3.  We get 2.5 takeaways per game.


Basically our defense is the 03 chiefs D.


our defense has been absurd good at home. don't be a dumbf*ck, please.

we get 4 TO's per game average at home, only like 1.5 on the road.

November 13, 2009, 10:07:44 AM
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Wow you are one angry person.

Can I ask you one question; why didn't Patterson come last November?

He was never offered the job.  Also, what from my post was angry? 
Wrong, he accepted the job from krause but wefald said no.(elite insidery type info)

no sh1t.  I also offered him the job.  But, just like Krause, didn't have the authority to.  Not that elite or insidery btw.   
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November 13, 2009, 12:11:51 PM
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1.  Patterson is much more valuable now than when he was sought by K-State the first time around.  tcu being considered for national championship?
2.  Koenning/Cosh are widely credited for defensive turnaround, whether you think it's smoke and mirrors, or not.
3.  The next HC is probably on staff as we speak. 

Those points seem firm to me.  What I don't know is why the other high profile guy left so soon after hire by Snyder?

November 13, 2009, 01:16:58 PM
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1.  Patterson is much more valuable now than when he was sought by K-State the first time around.  tcu being considered for national championship?
2.  Koenning/Cosh are widely credited for defensive turnaround, whether you think it's smoke and mirrors, or not.
3.  The next HC is probably on staff as we speak. 

Those points seem firm to me.  What I don't know is why the other high profile guy left so soon after hire by Snyder?

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November 13, 2009, 01:41:54 PM
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Wow you are one angry person.

Can I ask you one question; why didn't Patterson come last November?

He was never offered the job.  Also, what from my post was angry? 
Wrong, he accepted the job from krause but wefald said no.(elite insidery type info)

no sh1t.  I also offered him the job.  But, just like Krause, didn't have the authority to.  Not that elite or insidery btw.   

As Pissclams said above you sir are catfan B.  Why other than your self inflated ego would Patterson take a job offer from somebody that only thinks he has something to do with KSU.  Rather than somebody that was actually on the payroll.  Get a grip on where you are in the big picture of KSU.  You are small my friend and nonexistent to Patterson.  Krause is and was  pretty small but, at least he is visible.  Isn't this fun?? ;) ;)

November 13, 2009, 01:47:12 PM
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For those new to message boarding or those that just suck at it,

I did not, in real life, offer Gary Patterson the KSU head football coaching job. 

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steve dave
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November 13, 2009, 01:48:03 PM
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For those new to message boarding or those that just suck at it,

I did not, in real life, offer Gary Patterson the KSU head football coaching job. 

Your hero,
steve dave

wow, you need kougar 24 to rescue you steve douche?

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November 13, 2009, 01:48:34 PM
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It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

November 13, 2009, 01:48:48 PM
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For those new to message boarding or those that just suck at it,

I did not, in real life, offer Gary Patterson the KSU head football coaching job. 

Your hero,
steve dave

wow, you need kougar 24 to rescue you steve douche?

:fatty:

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November 13, 2009, 01:49:33 PM
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FYI, kougs and I have a fantastic relationship.

Yeah, kougz seems like a good guy though I've never hung out with him in real life.  We should invite him to the next Pak'r (PM if he's actually weird and this is a bad idea and I will delete post)
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November 13, 2009, 02:04:56 PM
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For those new to message boarding or those that just suck at it,

I did not, in real life, offer Gary Patterson the KSU head football coaching job. 

Your hero,
steve dave

Glad you are taking it so well. :)  I may have been wrong about you.   Maybe you don't hate Snyder but just have a big one for Gary

November 13, 2009, 02:11:51 PM
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For those new to message boarding or those that just suck at it,

I did not, in real life, offer Gary Patterson the KSU head football coaching job. 

Your hero,
steve dave

wow, you need kougar 24 to rescue you steve douche?

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hey everyone, look!  it's two Catfan B's talking to each other!!   :lol:  :lol:


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November 13, 2009, 02:12:28 PM
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