College Football Mailbag

[2yankees8]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/11/11/texas-schedule/index.html?eref=sihp

Hi Stewart, I'm a diehard K-State fan, but I have to know ... was the team always better than what the media thought and just needed a good leader in the coaching position, or is Bill Snyder really Houdini reincarnated?
-- Todd Searls, Broomfield, Colo.

Snyder has certainly made me look like an idiot. I said at the time that his rehiring reeked of desperation, and I wrote off the Wildcats as a long-term reclamation project when they opened the season by losing to Louisiana-Lafayette (as I assume most people did). But the ultimate sign of a good coach is when his team gets better throughout the course of a season, and here we are in early November looking at the very realistic possibility that K-State might play for the Big 12 title.

Obviously, these are not yet the Ell Roberson-Darren Sproles Wildcats, but they do exhibit many of the staples of Snyder's earlier teams. His defense is typically salty (20th nationally against the run), and his offensive star, not for the first time, is a juco transfer, running back Daniel Thomas. By no means is K-State a juggernaut. And the main concern I raised in my column last November still remains: What is K-State's long-term plan once Snyder re-retires? That aside, there's no denying that for a fan base that was so divided last year and a school that endured so much embarrassment last summer over its financial indiscretions, Snyder has provided the perfect shot in the arm.

[GP76]

Amen, I say amen.  Speak up, BOYS that said Snyder was not the man for the job.  Yea I'm talking to you SD.  Isn't this fun.

[WillieWannabe]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/11/11/texas-schedule/index.html?eref=sihp

Hi Stewart, I'm a diehard K-State fan, but I have to know ... was the team always better than what the media thought and just needed a good leader in the coaching position, or is Bill Snyder really Houdini reincarnated?
-- Todd Searls, Broomfield, Colo.

Snyder has certainly made me look like an idiot. I said at the time that his rehiring reeked of desperation, and I wrote off the Wildcats as a long-term reclamation project when they opened the season by losing to Louisiana-Lafayette (as I assume most people did). But the ultimate sign of a good coach is when his team gets better throughout the course of a season, and here we are in early November looking at the very realistic possibility that K-State might play for the Big 12 title.

Obviously, these are not yet the Ell Roberson-Darren Sproles Wildcats, but they do exhibit many of the staples of Snyder's earlier teams. His defense is typically salty (20th nationally against the run), and his offensive star, not for the first time, is a juco transfer, running back Daniel Thomas. By no means is K-State a juggernaut. And the main concern I raised in my column last November still remains: What is K-State's long-term plan once Snyder re-retires? That aside, there's no denying that for a fan base that was so divided last year and a school that endured so much embarrassment last summer over its financial indiscretions, Snyder has provided the perfect shot in the arm.

I feel alot better about this with ADJC in charge. Won't be an issue.

[hemmy]

Amen, I say amen.  Speak up, BOYS that said Snyder was not the man for the job.  Yea I'm talking to you SD.  Isn't this fun.

Whats with all the powertards racing over here to bring that sh*t up???

we are all cat fans, as fff would say, support the cats

[Leyton]

Amen, I say amen.  Speak up, BOYS that said Snyder was not the man for the job.  Yea I'm talking to you SD.  Isn't this fun.

Whats with all the powertards racing over here to bring that sh*t up???

we are all cat fans, as fff would say, support the cats

This is America, bro.  We have free speech and large portions of it.  Chillax.  If the dude wants to mock somebody else for being a complete asshat and doubting the greatest coach ever, that's his call. (pls ignore the fact that I'm being a total hypocrite by telling you what to do)

[cireksu]

One .500 ish year does not make the future of the program.

[steve dave]

Amen, I say amen.  Speak up, BOYS that said Snyder was not the man for the job.  Yea I'm talking to you SD.  Isn't this fun.

Your obsession with me is creepy.  Also, I still don't believe Snyder was the right choice 

[FelixRex]

And the main concern I raised in my column last November still remains: What is K-State's long-term plan once Snyder re-retires? That aside, there's no denying that for a fan base that was so divided last year and a school that endured so much embarrassment last summer over its financial indiscretions, Snyder has provided the perfect shot in the arm.

Hey Kougar, remember when we almost getting lynched by MAC and the gang for saying exactly this?

[kougar24]

And the main concern I raised in my column last November still remains: What is K-State's long-term plan once Snyder re-retires? That aside, there's no denying that for a fan base that was so divided last year and a school that endured so much embarrassment last summer over its financial indiscretions, Snyder has provided the perfect shot in the arm.

Hey Kougar, remember when we almost getting lynched by MAC and the gang for saying exactly this?

Oh yeah. We said repeatedly that we had no doubt Snyder would win while he was here, but that our concern lay beyond that.

But nooooooo, that meant we hated Bill Snyder, K-State, and babies.

 

[FelixRex]

And the main concern I raised in my column last November still remains: What is K-State's long-term plan once Snyder re-retires? That aside, there's no denying that for a fan base that was so divided last year and a school that endured so much embarrassment last summer over its financial indiscretions, Snyder has provided the perfect shot in the arm.

Hey Kougar, remember when we almost getting lynched by MAC and the gang for saying exactly this?

Oh yeah. We said repeatedly that we had no doubt Snyder would win while he was here, but that our concern lay beyond that.

But nooooooo, that meant we hated Bill Snyder, K-State, and babies.

 

I especially love looking back on all the "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION OUR ADMINS" now that all the secret contracts and whatnot came out.

[Purplefamily]

I still don't believe Snyder was the right choice

Yeah, we shoulda kept the Princlet... he just needed a FEW more years... and a few more... and a few more...   But hey guys, it was all laid out in the book!  Sorry, but we're not working in geologic time.

[steve dave]

I still don't believe Snyder was the right choice

Yeah, we shoulda kept the Princlet... he just needed a FEW more years... and a few more... and a few more...   But hey guys, it was all laid out in the book!  Sorry, but we're not working in geologic time.

I started a blog dedicated to firing Ron Prince:

http://princemustgo.blogspot.com/

And was a member of the planning and fundraising commitees for the flying banner that was to appear over BSFS should they not have announced his canning prior to the end of his last season.  So, in summary, you can take your terrible f^cking strawman post and shove it up your ass.

[Pett]

It's weird that with all of this supposed diehard K-State fans all across the nation that we still have 8,000 tickets remaining for the MU game..

[ksu_FAN]

Unfortunately, for many...

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Me, I'll be EMAWBIN'.   

[steve dave]

I don't get hunting

[ksu_FAN]

I don't get hunting

Me neither. 

"Let's walk through miles and miles of corn and milo stalks to shoot a few wild birds that really taste horrible unless you wrap them in bacon.  Oh, and its much better if its like 30 degrees."

[bleedpurple7]

Snyder wasn't the right choice? Yeah i know, I woulda hired Bill Belichick or vince lombardi or some other legend with a passion and a knowledge for kstate football.

[ksu_FAN]

Snyder wasn't the right choice? Yeah i know, I woulda hired Bill Belichick or vince lombardi or some other legend with a passion and a knowledge for kstate football.

Don't miss the point here.  I don't think its silly for people to think a) should/could have had Patterson and b) that probably would've been a better long term hire than Snyder.  That is not unreasonable.  I'm fine with Snyder and trust that his successor this time around will be handled much better, but I also understand why people thought there were better choices, namely Patterson.

[catzacker]

I agree that we should all start sucking each off because we aren't as sucky as we thought.  I'd also agree that, especially with this team being so dominant on both sides of the ball, we should just assume that we'll beat missouri and get to a bowl game. 

[bleedpurple7]

I assume Snyder was our final option. I assume that with all the rumors and speculation about patterson that we at least contacted him about the job. What I am trying to say is that snyder is not the wrong choice if, however, he was the back up option.

[kougar24]

And the main concern I raised in my column last November still remains: What is K-State's long-term plan once Snyder re-retires? That aside, there's no denying that for a fan base that was so divided last year and a school that endured so much embarrassment last summer over its financial indiscretions, Snyder has provided the perfect shot in the arm.

Hey Kougar, remember when we almost getting lynched by MAC and the gang for saying exactly this?

Oh yeah. We said repeatedly that we had no doubt Snyder would win while he was here, but that our concern lay beyond that.

But nooooooo, that meant we hated Bill Snyder, K-State, and babies.

 

I especially love looking back on all the "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION OUR ADMINS" now that all the secret contracts and whatnot came out.

I'm assuming this all went down on kstatefans with catfan28 and the like? 

Naturally. I got banned from the site I resuscitated because I was "too negative" about Wefald and Krause last summer/fall before all the stuff went down. Not gonna lie: I did enjoy going back there (incognito of course) after everything came out about Krausefald and reading all the "well well well, kougar was right!" posts.

Naturally, I never got one of those from catfan28.  

[ksu_FAN]

I assume Snyder was our final option. I assume that with all the rumors and speculation about patterson that we at least contacted him about the job. What I am trying to say is that snyder is not the wrong choice if, however, he was the back up option.

I don't disagree with that.

I just think the angst you see around here at times is not b/c we didn't try to hire Urban Meier or Mack Brown.  Its b/c it seemed like Patterson was a done deal and we messed it up.  But without him, getting Snyder is turning out to be a good deal, but I still think people are concerned about post-Snyder part 2 b/c post-Snyder part 1 was a disaster.

[steve dave]

I assume Snyder was our final option.

Agree that he was a perfect final option.  The bad thing is that he was the only option for the guy making the decision.  Patterson was ours if we wanted him (and by we I mean wefald). 

[bleedpurple7]

I would like to hear your opinions on what it is that we do this time around (post-snyder part 2). New president, New AD.

My opinion is Coach Snyders goal is to right the ship and go after a big name this time(such as a gary patterson), not screw around with a no-name coordinator who "interviews well."

What do you think??

[ew2x4]

And the main concern I raised in my column last November still remains: What is K-State's long-term plan once Snyder re-retires? That aside, there's no denying that for a fan base that was so divided last year and a school that endured so much embarrassment last summer over its financial indiscretions, Snyder has provided the perfect shot in the arm.

Hey Kougar, remember when we almost getting lynched by MAC and the gang for saying exactly this?

Oh yeah. We said repeatedly that we had no doubt Snyder would win while he was here, but that our concern lay beyond that.

But nooooooo, that meant we hated Bill Snyder, K-State, and babies.

 

I especially love looking back on all the "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION OUR ADMINS" now that all the secret contracts and whatnot came out.

I'm assuming this all went down on kstatefans with catfan28 and the like? 

Naturally. I got banned from the site I resuscitated because I was "too negative" about Wefald and Krause last summer/fall before all the stuff went down. Not gonna lie: I did enjoy going back there (incognito of course) after everything came out about Krausefald and reading all the "well well well, kougar was right!" posts.

Naturally, I never got one of those from catfan28.  

Did you ever post with your sock? The only reason I go to that site any more is Felix and 3holepunch. Every now and then, riling up JesusLives is great entertainment.

[WillieWannabe]

I don't get hunting

Me neither. 

"Let's walk through miles and miles of corn and milo stalks to shoot a few wild birds that really taste horrible unless you wrap them in bacon.  Oh, and its much better if its like 30 degrees."

Just something about killing an animal and eating it. Its a rush.

[ksu_FAN]

I would like to hear your opinions on what it is that we do this time around (post-snyder part 2). New president, New AD.

My opinion is Coach Snyders goal is to right the ship and go after a big name this time(such as a gary patterson), not screw around with a no-name coordinator who "interviews well."

What do you think??

I'm sure Snyder won't want that to happen again.  I don't necessarily think he'll hand-pick the successor, but I think he'll be more involved in the process.  I think we have an advantage as well without Wefald/Krause having their hands involved with the decision.  Plus, it will likely be the first big thing of Curries tenure and I'm sure he'll want to do things right.

[catzacker]

Imo, the premise that Snyds as any option other than him coaching until he dies, was/is retarded.  But let's assume that snyds and co get this thing up and running (i.e. consistently competing for championships)....all those effeciencies, all those recruiting ties, all those connections get eaten up with a coaching change (assuming we hire outside the staff).  New staff, new philosophies, new coaches, new programs, new offensive and defensive schemes, etc.  I'm not assuming that the next coach will suck, rather I'm just stating that the program's "stature" when a coach leaves has little to do with the next coach's success (see Michigan and Nebraska as examples)...the reverse of this is also true....so the thought that we "needed" snyder to calm the waters is and always will be retarded, imo.

[bleedpurple7]

I'm sure Snyder won't want that to happen again.  I don't necessarily think he'll hand-pick the successor, but I think he'll be more involved in the process.  I think we have an advantage as well without Wefald/Krause having their hands involved with the decision.  Plus, it will likely be the first big thing of Curries tenure and I'm sure he'll want to do things right.

Good point. It'll be a good way to start his (hopefully) long tenure here!

[pissclams]

remember the "no one will follow an legend" theory after Snyds retired v.1 as the reason no one respectable would coach at K-State? 

now, what happens when we win the B12N, and Snyds legend grows bigger than it was back then (which has already begun happening).  and we end up with someone worse than Prince @ Snyds retires v.2   

Snyds' legend grows like a mold, what the hell?

i hope we lose out for the next 4 seasons so we can get someone not afraid to follow a legend @ Snyds retires v.2

assuming we don't extend Snyds to another long term i mean