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November 02, 2009, 06:04:27 PM
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1) We don't get much pass rush.  VERY inexperienced in the secondary.  Good passing teams have picked us apart (Tech w/ Sheffield, and OU)

2) Reesing is mobile and he has a lot of chemistry with his receivers (prolly both on & off the field...eeeuuuwww!!)

3) Snyder's offense works against OU's defense because OU is NOT an assignment disciplined D rather they turn their players loose in a "controlled chaos" type fashion.  That is why w/ the duel threat running game and mobile OL(yes, our OL is mobile) we can create running lanes, cutbacks, etc.  ku is more fundamentally sound w/ regards to their own assignments. 

4) While I realize this game is HUGE for KSU given the past few years vs. ku, Snyder's return, etc, etc...this game may be even bigger for ku.  They had big expectations, they're wounded, cornered, and they need this one in the worst way.  They have the team that has been embarrassed this year from their season.

5) I hate to say it but this one smells like CU '01 after coming back from OU "moral victory" '01.  Yes, this ku team is nothing close to that CU '01 team but KSU '09 is nothing close to KSU '01, at least not defensively.

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November 02, 2009, 06:08:05 PM
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Agree with you . . .  on point 5 in particular.

Don't like the matchup of being ku's absolute must win in order to salvage their season, and us being a team that has to be "coached up" in order to perform well.

  


November 02, 2009, 06:09:17 PM
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That makes 3 of us with zacker

November 02, 2009, 06:14:31 PM
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November 02, 2009, 06:15:21 PM
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The one thing I do like about our team is that we now have confidence.  That can go along way for a team that isn't aware of it's own shortcomings.  

One might say ku's confidence is wobbling and staggered...I don't know.  That may be an issue as they do have a number of young players in the OL and back 7 defensively(aside from Stuckey).  I'm not sure if they've had quite enough success in that program for them not to be shaken by this...KSU '01 wasn't shaken but that team was built on nearly a decade of winning by that point in time.


November 02, 2009, 06:16:43 PM
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You're a bunch of hobos. K-State wins going away.


November 02, 2009, 06:29:20 PM
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my only saving grace is it is at home.  but add me to whatever number of people as this being a loss.

November 02, 2009, 06:38:46 PM
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XO's prediction IMO...TIFWIW etc.....

my guess is KSU's LB's will sit in zone to play underneath the slant threat of Briscoe and Meier, only occasionally manning up when Opurum is on the field.  Snyder & Co. should have the LB's and DT's thoroughly schooled on Sharps main threat...that dump off shovel pass. Hopefully the linebackers will be able to drop back enough to cover the post that Briscoe made a few catches on (and dropped wide open) against TT. I would assume Lamur will play deep so my key match-up I'll be watching for is whether Lamur and Hartman can step forward into the feild and make solid hits and hopefully even jump a route or two when their receivers gets behind a LB group that has trouble with passing teams. Two Cents  :kstatriot:

November 02, 2009, 06:43:54 PM
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Set up a kind of spy where an LB delays a blitz and intercepts a shovel for a pick 6.

November 02, 2009, 07:00:01 PM
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DT needs 25 touches and Banks needs 12-15(punts, KO, passes or runs) and we win

November 02, 2009, 07:02:05 PM
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You forgot the most important factor for ku.  It's basketball season.

November 02, 2009, 07:02:47 PM
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hatter + dax acting like pansies this week? i'm stunned. :rolleyes:

losers.
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November 02, 2009, 07:04:57 PM
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Set up a kind of spy where an LB delays a blitz and intercepts a shovel for a pick 6.

Agreed.  The more "pick 6" plays we can draw up the better imo.

November 02, 2009, 07:16:59 PM
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1) We don't get much pass rush.  VERY inexperienced in the secondary.  Good passing teams have picked us apart (Tech w/ Sheffield, and OU)

2) Reesing is mobile and he has a lot of chemistry with his receivers (prolly both on & off the field...eeeuuuwww!!)

3) Snyder's offense works against OU's defense because OU is NOT an assignment disciplined D rather they turn their players loose in a "controlled chaos" type fashion.  That is why w/ the duel threat running game and mobile OL(yes, our OL is mobile) we can create running lanes, cutbacks, etc.  ku is more fundamentally sound w/ regards to their own assignments. 

4) While I realize this game is HUGE for KSU given the past few years vs. ku, Snyder's return, etc, etc...this game may be even bigger for ku.  They had big expectations, they're wounded, cornered, and they need this one in the worst way.  They have the team that has been embarrassed this year from their season.

5) I hate to say it but this one smells like CU '01 after coming back from OU "moral victory" '01.  Yes, this ku team is nothing close to that CU '01 team but KSU '09 is nothing close to KSU '01, at least not defensively.

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This is wouldn't pass for analysis, if you screamed it on youtube with your shirt off

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November 02, 2009, 07:17:41 PM
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That makes 3 of us with zacker

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I am now officially  :runaway: for this game.  I went from  :steadymobbin': to  :flush:

I only hope our crowd somehow makes the difference.

November 02, 2009, 08:21:42 PM
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Snyds always circled the ku game. He saved a bunch of sneaky stuff for this game.

We are going to freaking win.

November 02, 2009, 08:26:03 PM
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Snyds always circled the ku game. He saved a bunch of sneaky stuff for this game.

We are going to freaking win.

KOUGS!   :love:   :steadymobbin':

November 02, 2009, 08:27:34 PM
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Snyds always circled the ku game. He saved a bunch of sneaky stuff for this game.

We are going to freaking win.

KOUGS!   :love:   :steadymobbin':

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a dominating defensive performance would signal the  :steadymobbin': is truly back.
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November 02, 2009, 08:30:54 PM
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Snyds always circled the ku game. He saved a bunch of sneaky stuff for this game.

We are going to freaking win.

he let alot out during the ou game.  i was shocked.  it was like snyds thought they were going to win or something.

November 02, 2009, 08:33:57 PM
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Snyds always circled the ku game. He saved a bunch of sneaky stuff for this game.

We are going to freaking win.

he let alot out during the ou game.

Oh, there's more.

November 02, 2009, 08:40:41 PM
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Snyds always circled the ku game. He saved a bunch of sneaky stuff for this game.

We are going to freaking win.

he let alot out during the ou game.  i was shocked.  it was like snyds thought they were going to win or something.

Meh. The bootleg with Mastrud underneath and the Thomas passes aren't super secret stuff.

November 02, 2009, 08:48:40 PM
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I worry most about our ability to get pressure on Reesing. When Reesing faces teams that get in his face and blitz, he makes mistakes and that's where you see him fumble and throw picks.

I'm encouraged by the fact that ku's OL is not good and they haven't shown an ability to develop any semblance of a consistent run game, but if we aren't getting pressure with our front 4 it's essential we bring extra men IMO.

On offense, it's also important we establish the run. ku's defense isn't good, but they're decent through stretches; we absolutely have to be able to run the ball to win this game.

November 02, 2009, 08:59:01 PM
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1. We will get a pass rush
2. Thomas will run all over them along with a few K. Val runs that surprise us once again.
3. Gregory will be primo efficient.
4. Snyder owns Magina and if ever he coached 'em up, this is the one.

KSU wins.

November 02, 2009, 09:06:21 PM
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hatter you do this every year.

2005 - you were scared sh*tless about the ku defense shutting down our offense. (well, it happened)
2006 - http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=5277.msg51949#msg51949 (nailed it)
2007 - http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=16811.msg212497#msg212497 (nailed it)
2008 - no one gave a sh*t
2009 - this thread

now, you nailed it in previous years, but i think you are full of sh*t this year. go to hell clown.
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November 02, 2009, 09:09:12 PM
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When was the last time Snyder lost at home to ku?











Answer: 1992  (That's 8 straight wins).

November 02, 2009, 09:17:05 PM
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We won't move the ball against ku like we did against OU because ku is more fundamentally sound?

Are you out of your freaking mind?

I understand the worry.  We lost to LaLa and barely beat UMass.  We should be worried about every game including this one.  We could get blown out by anyone.  But to claim ku's defense will be better against us than OU's?  That is beyond stupid.
Is your life so sad that KSU football isn't enough?

November 02, 2009, 09:34:00 PM
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We won't move the ball against ku like we did against OU because ku is more fundamentally sound?

Are you out of your freaking mind?

I understand the worry.  We lost to LaLa and barely beat UMass.  We should be worried about every game including this one.  We could get blown out by anyone.  But to claim ku's defense will be better against us than OU's?  That is beyond stupid.

Agreed, a comment that could only be made by someone that hasn't watched any of the aforementioned teams play. 

Fundamentally sound teams don't give up big plays at the frequency ku's squad does.  Their LB's are an absolute joke, reminds me of our LB's last year on not having a clue where to go.  It doesn't get much better at the other positions on D either.

My concerns:  containment on the pass rush (don't care who their QB is) and our tackling on the comeback routes and bubble screens, which reverted back to TTech status on Saturday (likely b/c of the high level athletes those schools recruit at that position).  On offense, keep doing what we're doing, minimize (eliminate) penalties and we'll be fine. 

November 02, 2009, 09:37:20 PM
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The Hutch Salthawks play fundamentally sound defense.
Is your life so sad that KSU football isn't enough?

November 02, 2009, 09:37:30 PM
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When was the last time Snyder lost at home to ku?

Answer: 1992  (That's 8 straight wins).
Wrong, the last time Snyder lost at home to ku was the very same year we won a single game over the mighty Mean Green of North Texas, 1989.

November 02, 2009, 09:39:59 PM
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and lmao @ hatter making a comparo to 2001. 2001!!!! haha. this isn't 9/11 bro.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.