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October 23, 2009, 01:04:15 PM
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OH HEY, it's mr. Pissclams from RTCW :D

Well you've sure had an interesting decline in your gaming career! You reached your height of self accomplishment around 03, where you so skillfully puckered your lips to accommodate the all star h4x cast of team fx. I was impressed when you dropped the admin hat to fulfill your aspirations as a RTCW SOLDAT.... and what a statement you made  self vaping yourself in the lower bunker on shrub. And finally, you've been led to the cute little consoles, taking up the argument against PC gaming. Tbh, I'm surprised you're not advocating Wii Sports- all tendencies certainly point in that direction.

Cliff notes:

-The last PC game CLAMS played  was made in 01. Recommended GFX req. of a Geforce 2. Anything beyond that is clearly "high-end hardware". Consider that before listening to advice on hardware.  Mainstream pc gaming rig is a 3ghz core2/512mb gfx card imo.  I have a 3.66ghz and a 4890 1gig. My system could be built for $400-500, and runs every PC game I own max settings, Crysis High settings.

-Competitive PC gaming does indeed blow right now, was hopeful for Wolf, which I boycott, and now will boycott MW2 until they at least add dedicated servers

-PC Gaming is not dead, nor will it ever die. The only thing that has ever held it back is hardware and ignorance. PCs have already reached the heights of TV's, soon everyone will have one in each room of there house. And the more time that progresses, the more advance hardware will get. Before you know it, a game like MW2 will be like a web flash game you can play on your "old" pc. That resolves 50% of the problem...

-I own a 360 and Wii. They're fun for certain games, but I would never sell out FPS to console over PC - UNLESS consoles get dedicated boxes and better input devices.

-Clams is stuck in some sort of gaming purgatory. Somehow able to look down upon console gamers/gaming, while simultaneously endorsing them.


I used to be a die hard PC gamer. Still am. But to discredit console gaming is pretty laughable. Casual gaming with friends in effortless matchmaking is great entertainment.

Scientific fact that FPS games suck on consoles.

Sports games and racing games are fine, I do own a PS3.
here's another scientific fact, fps pc gaming is dead.

look, i've been playing FPS on pc's since before you knew what a headshot was.  i was/still am a virtual god in the CPMA community.  i've been to quakecon and worked for the CPL through CAL.  those days are over.  game producers/manufacturers gave up on the pc community a long time ago and focus now where the biggest customer base is, consoles.    you can deny it all you want but you're living in the past 

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October 23, 2009, 01:09:27 PM
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Buddy of mine picked up MW2 Monster Energy drink at Wal-Mart in Olathe today. Inside the box he won a MW2 xbox live theme!!  WOOT WOOT!

The fact that you should ever have to pay for something like that proves the retardedness of console gaming.

Also, lol at arguing about price when it comes to gaming. PC gaming is far more expensive.

And I'm glad you picked up on the Crysis jab. And nice try at putting down a port of a crapty game. You're stuck bitching about a crapty port of a great game. Sucks for you.

Let me know how awesome Sims 3 is, since that's the only game out on PC this year. Maybe Diablo 3 will make it out before New Years? How will you share your time between 2 whole games???

I upgrade my PC regardless of games.  They are just an added benefit of having a good computer.

i'm not arguing that console fps gaming is better- my point is that it's dead.  well, with the exception of guys like lox and apparently yourself...  there's nothing that can compare to pc fps gaming, but developers' main focus is where the $$ is, and that's consoles.  they develop for them, not the pc crowd, and it will never, ever, be any different.  that's just reality.


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October 23, 2009, 01:28:16 PM
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i'm not arguing that console fps gaming is better- my point is that it's dead.  well, with the exception of guys like lox and apparently yourself...  there's nothing that can compare to pc fps gaming, but developers' main focus is where the $$ is, and that's consoles.  they develop for them, not the pc crowd, and it will never, ever, be any different.  that's just reality.

It's not dead. This weekend I"ll be playing borderlands, before it's release I'll be playing the PC exclusive game killingfloor, and it's boatload of free content they just released for it. I'll agree to a certain extent, FPS competitive gaming does feel dead right now on pc. But saying PC FPS is dead when it still has huge big exclusives like crysis, arma, killing floor...it's just silly. Next gen games playground is on the pc, it's where we get a glimpse of the future. Cheers for ending on an absolute in your comment  :dancin:

October 23, 2009, 01:30:53 PM
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i'm not arguing that console fps gaming is better- my point is that it's dead.  well, with the exception of guys like lox and apparently yourself...  there's nothing that can compare to pc fps gaming, but developers' main focus is where the $$ is, and that's consoles.  they develop for them, not the pc crowd, and it will never, ever, be any different.  that's just reality.

It's not dead. This weekend I"ll be playing borderlands, before it's release I'll be playing the PC exclusive game killingfloor, and it's boatload of free content they just released for it. I'll agree to a certain extent, FPS competitive gaming does feel dead right now on pc. But saying PC FPS is dead when it still has huge big exclusives like crysis, arma, killing floor...it's just silly. Next gen games playground is on the pc, it's where we get a glimpse of the future. Cheers for ending on an absolute in your comment  :dancin:
here's to hoping you're right  :beerchug:
and here's to your sentence structure smack  :beerchug:
and here's to crysis   :flush:
and here's to you learning to use the quote function on the board  :thumbsup:
what league are you guys playing in now?  :dunno:


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October 23, 2009, 01:39:38 PM
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OH HEY, it's mr. Pissclams from RTCW :D

Well you've sure had an interesting decline in your gaming career! You reached your height of self accomplishment around 03, where you so skillfully puckered your lips to accommodate the all star h4x cast of team fx. I was impressed when you dropped the admin hat to fulfill your aspirations as a RTCW SOLDAT.... and what a statement you made  self vaping yourself in the lower bunker on shrub. And finally, you've been led to the cute little consoles, taking up the argument against PC gaming. Tbh, I'm surprised you're not advocating Wii Sports- all tendencies certainly point in that direction.

Cliff notes:

-The last PC game CLAMS played  was made in 01. Recommended GFX req. of a Geforce 2. Anything beyond that is clearly "high-end hardware". Consider that before listening to advice on hardware.  Mainstream pc gaming rig is a 3ghz core2/512mb gfx card imo.  I have a 3.66ghz and a 4890 1gig. My system could be built for $400-500, and runs every PC game I own max settings, Crysis High settings.

-Competitive PC gaming does indeed blow right now, was hopeful for Wolf, which I boycott, and now will boycott MW2 until they at least add dedicated servers

-PC Gaming is not dead, nor will it ever die. The only thing that has ever held it back is hardware and ignorance. PCs have already reached the heights of TV's, soon everyone will have one in each room of there house. And the more time that progresses, the more advance hardware will get. Before you know it, a game like MW2 will be like a web flash game you can play on your "old" pc. That resolves 50% of the problem...

-I own a 360 and Wii. They're fun for certain games, but I would never sell out FPS to console over PC - UNLESS consoles get dedicated boxes and better input devices.

-Clams is stuck in some sort of gaming purgatory. Somehow able to look down upon console gamers/gaming, while simultaneously endorsing them.


I used to be a die hard PC gamer. Still am. But to discredit console gaming is pretty laughable. Casual gaming with friends in effortless matchmaking is great entertainment.

Scientific fact that FPS games suck on consoles.

Sports games and racing games are fine, I do own a PS3.
here's another scientific fact, fps pc gaming is dead.

look, i've been playing FPS on pc's since before you knew what a headshot was.  i was/still am a virtual god in the CPMA community.  i've been to quakecon and worked for the CPL through CAL.  those days are over.  game producers/manufacturers gave up on the pc community a long time ago and focus now where the biggest customer base is, consoles.    you can deny it all you want but you're living in the past 

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October 23, 2009, 02:12:02 PM
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It's not dead. This weekend I"ll be playing borderlands, before it's release I'll be playing the PC exclusive game killingfloor, and it's boatload of free content they just released for it. I'll agree to a certain extent, FPS competitive gaming does feel dead right now on pc. But saying PC FPS is dead when it still has huge big exclusives like crysis, arma, killing floor...it's just silly. Next gen games playground is on the pc, it's where we get a glimpse of the future. Cheers for ending on an absolute in your comment  :dancin:

Exactly my point. Using a 3 year old crapty game as bragging rights pretty much proves PC gaming is dead.

And I thought Borderlands was already out? Oh yeah, it's already out on consoles. Not PC.


October 23, 2009, 05:25:26 PM
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"Exactly my point. Using a 3 year old crapty game as bragging rights pretty much proves PC gaming is dead.

And I thought Borderlands was already out? Oh yeah, it's already out on consoles. Not PC."


Whats the 3 year old crappy game? Crysis? Please, you'll be spamming this message board with the same drivel you've been spewing about Modern Warfare 2.  Crysis will eventually make it to consoles, after they slaughter the gfx...  Good point on borderlands though - we get borderlands a few days later, you get crysis a few years later. We get borderlands with improved gfx, better controls,- you'll get crysis with shabby framerates, blurry textures, and don't forget THUMBSTICKS  :blush:. Fear not, I'm sure they'll throw in fullscale armor or something in the consoles collectors edition...  :hope:

Crysis comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZEO3z4maE

Regarding Borderlands, the game was developed for the PC: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/randy_pitchford_talks_borderlands_piracy_and_why_he_doesn%E2%80%99t_trust_valve

"Randy Pitchford: The first thing is that we author our content on the PC. With Borderlands, we’re not porting the game to the PC, we’re starting there. The PC is our development platform."


It's funny that you can talk crap on PC gaming without somehow comprehending that the WORST characteristics of recent PC games, is due to the lower standards ported from the consoles you favor...


October 23, 2009, 05:29:08 PM
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i feel like a damn 6 year old on christmas eve for the past 3 months i will prolly legally b declared dead since noone will see me for 2 months
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October 23, 2009, 05:31:03 PM
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October 23, 2009, 08:53:37 PM
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Whats the 3 year old crappy game? Crysis? Please, you'll be spamming this message board with the same drivel you've been spewing about Modern Warfare 2.  Crysis will eventually make it to consoles, after they slaughter the gfx...  Good point on borderlands though - we get borderlands a few days later, you get crysis a few years later. We get borderlands with improved gfx, better controls,- you'll get crysis with shabby framerates, blurry textures, and don't forget THUMBSTICKS  :blush:. Fear not, I'm sure they'll throw in fullscale armor or something in the consoles collectors edition...  :hope:


This is awesome. Keep proving my point. You're making a big deal about a 3 year old game because that is all PC has. Console gamers will not make a big deal about it because the game is crap and THREE YEARS OLD! You're the one bragging about a 3 year old game and put others down for assuming they will?

October 23, 2009, 09:28:23 PM
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Whats the 3 year old crappy game? Crysis? Please, you'll be spamming this message board with the same drivel you've been spewing about Modern Warfare 2.  Crysis will eventually make it to consoles, after they slaughter the gfx...  Good point on borderlands though - we get borderlands a few days later, you get crysis a few years later. We get borderlands with improved gfx, better controls,- you'll get crysis with shabby framerates, blurry textures, and don't forget THUMBSTICKS  :blush:. Fear not, I'm sure they'll throw in fullscale armor or something in the consoles collectors edition...  :hope:


This is awesome. Keep proving my point. You're making a big deal about a 3 year old game because that is all PC has. Console gamers will not make a big deal about it because the game is crap and THREE YEARS OLD! You're the one bragging about a 3 year old game and put others down for assuming they will?

Crysis is an ok game, nothing wrong with it.  As far as "no good games on the pc"...not at all.  Games that console people think are amazing wouldn't end up very popular on the PC anyway because PC gamers have higher standards.
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October 23, 2009, 10:12:38 PM
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Whats the 3 year old crappy game? Crysis? Please, you'll be spamming this message board with the same drivel you've been spewing about Modern Warfare 2.  Crysis will eventually make it to consoles, after they slaughter the gfx...  Good point on borderlands though - we get borderlands a few days later, you get crysis a few years later. We get borderlands with improved gfx, better controls,- you'll get crysis with shabby framerates, blurry textures, and don't forget THUMBSTICKS  :blush:. Fear not, I'm sure they'll throw in fullscale armor or something in the consoles collectors edition...  :hope:


This is awesome. Keep proving my point. You're making a big deal about a 3 year old game because that is all PC has. Console gamers will not make a big deal about it because the game is crap and THREE YEARS OLD! You're the one bragging about a 3 year old game and put others down for assuming they will?

Crysis is an ok game, nothing wrong with it.  As far as "no good games on the pc"...not at all.  Games that console people think are amazing wouldn't end up very popular on the PC anyway because PC gamers have higher standards.

Yeah, that's why he brought up Crysis as an exclusive must have. The generic console gamer is indeed too stupid, and the remnants of PC gamers are too retarded (as you can plainly see).

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/700074/Top-Selling-PC-Software-For-September-2009----MMOs-MMOs-MMOs-MMOs.html

Yeah, there's alot of great new exciting games out for the PC. The only thing half way interesting are the smaller wacky Steam games.

October 23, 2009, 10:34:11 PM
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Ah yes, time to break out the sales pie-charts. Data promotes wii purchase... have fun with that.  :)

 As stated, I own a PC, 360, and wii. If available the FPS are purchased on PC. Now  at your house, I'm sure your pc does suck, no argument there. Maybe mom will upgrade this Christmas?

October 24, 2009, 02:10:09 AM
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Ah yes, time to break out the sales pie-charts. Data promotes wii purchase... have fun with that.  :)

 As stated, I own a PC, 360, and wii. If available the FPS are purchased on PC. Now  at your house, I'm sure your pc does suck, no argument there. Maybe mom will upgrade this Christmas?

I wasn't comparing sales between consoles and PC. I was showing the most popular PC games. Which are all old and suck. Because PC gaming is dead.

And my PC- Quadro 5800, 2.8 Ghz i7, 8 GB. I still game a little bit on PC. It's just difficult when there is nothing for it. But yeah, let's keep digging a hole for yourself. This is fun.

October 24, 2009, 10:13:53 AM
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Its funny that the only argument console gamers have is "our games sell better"

You guys have essentially admitted that if developed for all platforms independently, the PC version will be better in every way.
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October 24, 2009, 03:51:25 PM
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Its funny that the only argument console gamers have is "our games sell better"

Nobody is arguing it, idiot. People are arguing the best selling PC games are crap. Can you not read where I said this before?

October 24, 2009, 06:06:51 PM
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Ah yes, time to break out the sales pie-charts. Data promotes wii purchase... have fun with that.  :)

 As stated, I own a PC, 360, and wii. If available the FPS are purchased on PC. Now  at your house, I'm sure your pc does suck, no argument there. Maybe mom will upgrade this Christmas?

I wasn't comparing sales between consoles and PC. I was showing the most popular PC games. Which are all old and suck. Because PC gaming is dead.

And my PC- Quadro 5800, 2.8 Ghz i7, 8 GB. I still game a little bit on PC. It's just difficult when there is nothing for it. But yeah, let's keep digging a hole for yourself. This is fun.

thats classic. Pentium 10 for flash games and Microsoft Word...

October 24, 2009, 08:12:16 PM
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Ah yes, time to break out the sales pie-charts. Data promotes wii purchase... have fun with that.  :)

 As stated, I own a PC, 360, and wii. If available the FPS are purchased on PC. Now  at your house, I'm sure your pc does suck, no argument there. Maybe mom will upgrade this Christmas?

I wasn't comparing sales between consoles and PC. I was showing the most popular PC games. Which are all old and suck. Because PC gaming is dead.

And my PC- Quadro 5800, 2.8 Ghz i7, 8 GB. I still game a little bit on PC. It's just difficult when there is nothing for it. But yeah, let's keep digging a hole for yourself. This is fun.

thats classic. Pentium 10 for flash games and Microsoft Word...

Do you even know what a Quadro is?

October 24, 2009, 10:15:10 PM
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Is that like the gfx card they bundle with a dell? Good choice on pairing that with your nice processor....kinda like snow tires on a viper.

October 24, 2009, 10:20:43 PM
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Is that like the gfx card they bundle with a dell? Good choice on pairing that with your nice processor....kinda like snow tires on a viper.

Actually, it helps me a lot when I'm modeling 75,000 square foot buildings in Revit and 3DS Max. It costs more than your Best Buy computer total.

October 24, 2009, 10:22:19 PM
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Whose sock is this, btw? Great job in playing the idiot role. PC gamer holdovers are surprisingly good at it, it seems.

October 25, 2009, 10:22:46 AM
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October 25, 2009, 12:22:31 PM
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Is that like the gfx card they bundle with a dell? Good choice on pairing that with your nice processor....kinda like snow tires on a viper.

Actually, it helps me a lot when I'm modeling 75,000 square foot buildings in Revit and 3DS Max. It costs more than your Best Buy computer total.

plz....I have run lightwave without incident on a system with 1/4 of the horsepower. Better just flatshade the models texture with that video card though....  :blush:

October 25, 2009, 01:04:02 PM
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Is that like the gfx card they bundle with a dell? Good choice on pairing that with your nice processor....kinda like snow tires on a viper.

Actually, it helps me a lot when I'm modeling 75,000 square foot buildings in Revit and 3DS Max. It costs more than your Best Buy computer total.

Bestbuy huh... weren't you the guy on page 1 that was pissin your britches about the 720 headset from bestbuy? $300 for a headset that "simulates" surround sound.... Now thats a L O L. Kinda fitting of how the console "simulates" the FPS experience found on pc tho.  Knowing that lil tid bit, I bet you paid $100 for the 360 wireless adapter....(fail) Clearly I'm the one playing the "idiot role"....   

You know, it's fine if you're a casual console gamer who plays games on the weekend and want to check out mw2, that concession to mediocrity is forgivable. BUT, if you're a douchebag who takes the day off from work to twiddle your thumbs on a $60 game wearing a $300 headset with your collectors edition night vision goggles all while boasting sales charts and your personal superiority because you advocate crapty purchases, your ass needs to be SHOT.


If your not looking to single handily recover the economy through personal spending, pc gamers seem to like the speedlink line of true 5.1 headsets... available for half the price, and no, not available at bestbuy.  :blush: They have the added benefit of not looking like a headset from 1984....or maybe the retro look of the TRITTON is your thing...


October 25, 2009, 01:14:25 PM
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Is that like the gfx card they bundle with a dell? Good choice on pairing that with your nice processor....kinda like snow tires on a viper.

Actually, it helps me a lot when I'm modeling 75,000 square foot buildings in Revit and 3DS Max. It costs more than your Best Buy computer total.

Bestbuy huh... weren't you the guy on page 1 that was pissin your britches about the 720 headset from bestbuy? $300 for a headset that "simulates" surround sound.... Now thats a L O L. Kinda fitting of how the console "simulates" the FPS experience found on pc tho.  Knowing that lil tid bit, I bet you paid $100 for the 360 wireless adapter....(fail) Clearly I'm the one playing the "idiot role"....   

You know, it's fine if you're a casual console gamer who plays games on the weekend and want to check out mw2, that concession to mediocrity is forgivable. BUT, if you're a douchebag who takes the day off from work to twiddle your thumbs on a $60 game wearing a $300 headset with your collectors edition night vision goggles all while boasting sales charts and your personal superiority because you advocate crapty purchases, your ass needs to be SHOT.


If your not looking to single handily recover the economy through personal spending, pc gamers seem to like the speedlink line of true 5.1 headsets... available for half the price, and no, not available at bestbuy.  :blush: They have the added benefit of not looking like a headset from 1984....or maybe the retro look of the TRITTON is your thing...



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October 25, 2009, 03:28:00 PM
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Is that like the gfx card they bundle with a dell? Good choice on pairing that with your nice processor....kinda like snow tires on a viper.

Actually, it helps me a lot when I'm modeling 75,000 square foot buildings in Revit and 3DS Max. It costs more than your Best Buy computer total.

Bestbuy huh... weren't you the guy on page 1 that was pissin your britches about the 720 headset from bestbuy? $300 for a headset that "simulates" surround sound.... Now thats a L O L. Kinda fitting of how the console "simulates" the FPS experience found on pc tho.  Knowing that lil tid bit, I bet you paid $100 for the 360 wireless adapter....(fail) Clearly I'm the one playing the "idiot role"....   

You know, it's fine if you're a casual console gamer who plays games on the weekend and want to check out mw2, that concession to mediocrity is forgivable. BUT, if you're a douchebag who takes the day off from work to twiddle your thumbs on a $60 game wearing a $300 headset with your collectors edition night vision goggles all while boasting sales charts and your personal superiority because you advocate crapty purchases, your ass needs to be SHOT.


If your not looking to single handily recover the economy through personal spending, pc gamers seem to like the speedlink line of true 5.1 headsets... available for half the price, and no, not available at bestbuy.  :blush: They have the added benefit of not looking like a headset from 1984....or maybe the retro look of the TRITTON is your thing...



Nice way to cover up your idiot remarks with half assed insults. You're really shining here. First off, LOL if you think I'd own a $300 (they're $120, btw) headset with a much more expensive surround sound setup already hooked up. And also, how the hell are you still not grasping why I posted the sales chart? Sims Fracking TWO was on that list. And you can go on and on about how much PC gaming provides compared to console gaming. The 2 idiots (you and the other guy) in this thread can't comprehend this argument. PC GAMING IS DEAD. HAVE FUN WITH WOW AND YOUR TWO AWESOME GAMES A YEAR. The fact we're in a thread about an FPS, and you're bragging about how PC gaming is purely for FPS gaming, yet there wasn't one single FPS on the top 20 sales chart for PC should tell you something. You had to brag about CRYSIS. LOL! I don't even remember what games came out on consoles in 2007. Oh, but I'm just comparing sales showing consoles are more popular. What an idiot. It even took you two replies 40 minutes apart for you to think of a comeback. Nice one.

And you "running" lightwave with a system with "1/4 the horsepower" is pretty LOL when you probably don't even know how to use it, especially when I'm doing the most demanding thing possible with millions of dollars on the line.
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October 25, 2009, 10:24:16 PM
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October 25, 2009, 10:44:33 PM
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So what you're saying is....your important irl.... I wasn't going to say anything, but I'm puff daddy.

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"you're bragging about how PC gaming is purely for FPS gaming"

No. I have said that I buy FPS on PC when available over the 360 because I prefer the performance, gfx, controls, mod support, dedicated servers, etc. It's not my only platform. I'll give you an example, halo odst is not on pc, yet I own it. I'll let you think about that for a bit.

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It even took you two replies 40 minutes apart for you to think of a comeback. Nice one.

Oh, we're playing stopwatch internets arguing now, how neat. Guess it took you like....a day to think of a comeback then? I of course don't really think that, I realize that you're busy drawing super buildings on your super computer, while hanging out with your super family at your super house.

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"And you "running" lightwave with a system with "1/4 the horsepower" is pretty LOL when you probably don't even know how to use it, especially when I'm doing the most demanding thing possible with millions of dollars on the line."

I dabble in lightwave, and I don't run it on a system with 1/4 of the power, but I have before.  If you check out some of my vids on youtube, you can see when I use some modeling: www.youtube.com/loxodonte1   (plz subscribe)

btw is that you commenting spam on my profile page?





October 25, 2009, 10:59:21 PM
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about the headset, I had no idea how much it cost, I thought you said it was $250, guess that was something different. Still....$120 for a headset that doesn't do surround when true 5.1 sets exist for the same or less...

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"The 2 idiots (you and the other guy) in this thread can't comprehend this argument. PC GAMING IS DEAD. HAVE FUN WITH WOW AND YOUR TWO AWESOME GAMES A YEAR."

My argument is primarily that PC gaming is better for FPS. Though I'd also say PC gaming is far from dead. The newest gaming software technology has generally always made it's debut on pc. Certain games like what you mentioned, wow, can single handily carry pc gaming. Then you have your STEAMS, your direct 2 drives, etc. The software companies whom develop your console have generally always started making games in the PC mod community.

If you want to talk about the argument, then tell me how playing MW2 is a superior experience on the console... most people would start babbling about there 100" projection screen and there fluffy couch, somehow you've failed to do much more than talk about how important you are irl.