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September 11, 2009, 10:11:22 PM
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LOL . . . so basically you just confirmed how idiotic your implication that 40th ranked Top 100 JC guy isn't anywhere close to a 20thish ranked Top 100 JC guy . . . the same goes with star ratings. 

In terms of the score last year, why is it so hard for you contemplate just how poorly coached K-State was last year, particularly on defense, and in terms of in game time management?  The guys are saying this coaching staff is teaching them stuff that last years defensive staff never even brought up (Probably didn't even understand).  Scores like 64-0 over ku were absolute physical domination, ku didn't even mount drives of any significance.    . . in fact ku went 3 or 4 games without even scoring a TD in Manhattan.   The score last year was more indicative of piss poor defensive coaching and bad game management than it was talent.   Hell, a friend and I were talking today, and as we went through some things, if K-State even has an 80th ranked defense last year, they not only go bowling, they challenge for the Big 12 North . . . I personally believe this current staff will raise K-State's defensive rankings 30-40 spots(which ain't really anything to brag about) simply because they know what the hell they're doing. 

Hell the worst program in FCS went down in ku's red zone (on the 10 yard line) on their 2nd possession of the game, and on their 1st possession of the 2nd half (doubt Mangino was substituting that liberally on the first defensive series of the 2nd half).   They were also knocking on the door of the Red Zone on their 2nd possession in the 2nd half until they got a personal foul penalty.  246 yards and 17 first downs for the worst team in the FCS against ku last week.

I sense the Bentard is near a complete meltdown . . . this should get exciting.




1.  'Pad, when you're talking about who has the better recruiting class, recruiting rankings become relevant.  All I pointed out was that ku's 4-star guys were more highly ranked than K-State's.  Nothing more, nothing less.

2.  You blow the coaching thing way out of proportion.  Coaching didn't cause Josh Freeman to fumble at the goaline.  Coaching wasn't the reason why Jake Sharp ran for 180 yards and 3 TD's by halftime.  Your team just flat-out sucked.  I don't know why you can't just admit that. 

3.  K-State has glaring weaknesses all over the field.  Look at your linebackers... those guys might start at Northern Colorado.  Carson Coffman wouldn't start at Butler Community College.  It's just like when K-State had Ell Roberson, and ku had some scrub that barely got offered by D-2 programs. 

4.  Speaking of Northern Colorado, their QB was a transfer from Florida.  They have improved since last season.  The funny thing is that ku's gameplan against Northern Colorado was pretty much the same as it was against K-State.  Reesing only threw 23 passes against K-State last year.  ku didn't need to throw... the game was over at the line of scrimmage.

5.  K-State ran for a total of 91 yards against ku's defense, and a lot of those yards came during the 4th quarter, when ku had their 2nd string defense on the field. 


Look, you can deny the gap in talent until you're blue in the face.  I'm not saying it's a 64-0 gap, but I wouldn't be surprised if ku was in the 56-14 range.


September 11, 2009, 10:13:02 PM
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Look, you can deny the gap in talent until you're blue in the face.  I'm not saying it's a 64-0 gap, but I wouldn't be surprised if ku was in the 56-14 range.

I think that you are overvaluing ku's talent. By quite a bit.
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September 11, 2009, 10:15:55 PM
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Look, you can deny the gap in talent until you're blue in the face.  I'm not saying it's a 64-0 gap, but I wouldn't be surprised if ku was in the 56-14 range.

I think that you are overvaluing ku's talent. By quite a bit.




K-State had a better team last year, and ku won 52-21.  Mangino will try to run up the score now that Snyder is back.  You guys are f*cked.

September 11, 2009, 10:17:48 PM
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ku was 4-4 in the big 12 last year, KSU 2-6.
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September 11, 2009, 10:18:35 PM
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OMG, Please BMWJHawk, I beg of you....please get a life   :hope:

September 11, 2009, 10:20:06 PM
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Look, you can deny the gap in talent until you're blue in the face.  I'm not saying it's a 64-0 gap, but I wouldn't be surprised if ku was in the 56-14 range.

I think that you are overvaluing ku's talent. By quite a bit.




K-State had a better team last year, and ku won 52-21.  Mangino will try to run up the score now that Snyder is back.  You guys are f*cked.

I can't judge really if k-state was better last year than this year, way too early. ku is more talented than K-State, this much is agreeable. But to me, it's too early to judge KSU, considering we have an all new coaching staff.
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September 11, 2009, 10:21:16 PM
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ku was 4-4 in the big 12 last year

Wow, did not realize this
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September 11, 2009, 10:22:42 PM
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You are absolutely obsessed with K-State and Me.  

Yeah Jake Sharp ran wild because that defense was the easiest defense in the world to figure out in terms of what they were doing.

K-State drove it right down the field on ku's 1st team defense, and of course fumbled on the goal line . . . at times during the DOD ku could never even generate a pint of pi$$ against K-State's first team defense, let alone drive it 60 yards down to the goal line in the 1st half against K-State's 1st team defense.

Nobody is saying K-State doesn't have glaring weaknesses dumbass . . .

Again, your point is that the talent gap is like it was during the DOD, well, just as I said, if K-State even has an 80th ranked defense last year, they not only go to a bowl, they challenge for the Big 12 North Title.

Plus you try and paint a picture that right now ku is USC and K-State is some Division III school . . . for all your BS, you know ku isn't recruiting that much better than K-State is, and if K-State lands some of the guys we're down to the wire on, K-State may end up with a better class than ku.  

I now send you back to your regularly scheduled Bentard complete meltdown.

LOL nearly 250 yards of offense and 17 first downs for the worst team in the FCS against ku last weekend.





September 11, 2009, 10:23:10 PM
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ku was 4-4 in the big 12 last year
Wow, did not realize this

They could easily have the same record or worse this season.
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September 11, 2009, 10:28:28 PM
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ku was 4-4 in the big 12 last year
Wow, did not realize this

They could easily have the same record or worse this season.

Last year K-state was Idiotic play(s) away from going 3-5 . . . have a defense that's even 85th in the country . . . 4-4, and 8-4 during the regular season.

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September 11, 2009, 10:32:37 PM
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don't get me wrong, 7-5 (4-4) is a nice season, but it's not DoD dominace. ku isn't Missouri, Missouri has something frightening and special going on.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 11, 2009, 10:37:19 PM
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Mizzou has some resources. I imagine being the only D1 football team in the state has it's advantages?

:dunno:
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September 11, 2009, 10:38:31 PM
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Mizzou has some resources. I imagine being the only D1 football team in the state has it's advantages?

:dunno:

yup. pinkel is also just a fantastic coach.

they also don't have to deal w/being a worthless basketball school.
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September 11, 2009, 10:39:43 PM
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Mizzou has some resources. I imagine being the only D1 football team in the state has it's advantages?

:dunno:

yup. pinkel is also just a fantastic coach.

I had questions about him in the past. Always wondered what they could have done if they had more around Brad Smith.
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September 11, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
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spread offense really helped out mizzou.  remember when "pinkeled" was a common verb?

September 11, 2009, 11:00:33 PM
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spread offense really helped out mizzou.  remember when "pinkeled" was a common verb?

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September 12, 2009, 12:08:58 AM
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LOL . . . so basically you just confirmed how idiotic your implication that 40th ranked Top 100 JC guy isn't anywhere close to a 20thish ranked Top 100 JC guy . . . the same goes with star ratings. 

In terms of the score last year, why is it so hard for you contemplate just how poorly coached K-State was last year, particularly on defense, and in terms of in game time management?  The guys are saying this coaching staff is teaching them stuff that last years defensive staff never even brought up (Probably didn't even understand).  Scores like 64-0 over ku were absolute physical domination, ku didn't even mount drives of any significance.    . . in fact ku went 3 or 4 games without even scoring a TD in Manhattan.   The score last year was more indicative of piss poor defensive coaching and bad game management than it was talent.   Hell, a friend and I were talking today, and as we went through some things, if K-State even has an 80th ranked defense last year, they not only go bowling, they challenge for the Big 12 North . . . I personally believe this current staff will raise K-State's defensive rankings 30-40 spots(which ain't really anything to brag about) simply because they know what the hell they're doing. 

Hell the worst program in FCS went down in ku's red zone (on the 10 yard line) on their 2nd possession of the game, and on their 1st possession of the 2nd half (doubt Mangino was substituting that liberally on the first defensive series of the 2nd half).   They were also knocking on the door of the Red Zone on their 2nd possession in the 2nd half until they got a personal foul penalty.  246 yards and 17 first downs for the worst team in the FCS against ku last week.

I sense the Bentard is near a complete meltdown . . . this should get exciting.




1.  'Pad, when you're talking about who has the better recruiting class, recruiting rankings become relevant.  All I pointed out was that ku's 4-star guys were more highly ranked than K-State's.  Nothing more, nothing less.

2.  You blow the coaching thing way out of proportion.  Coaching didn't cause Josh Freeman to fumble at the goaline.  Coaching wasn't the reason why Jake Sharp ran for 180 yards and 3 TD's by halftime.  Your team just flat-out sucked.  I don't know why you can't just admit that. 

3.  K-State has glaring weaknesses all over the field.  Look at your linebackers... those guys might start at Northern Colorado.  Carson Coffman wouldn't start at Butler Community College.  It's just like when K-State had Ell Roberson, and ku had some scrub that barely got offered by D-2 programs. 

4.  Speaking of Northern Colorado, their QB was a transfer from Florida.  They have improved since last season.  The funny thing is that ku's gameplan against Northern Colorado was pretty much the same as it was against K-State.  Reesing only threw 23 passes against K-State last year.  ku didn't need to throw... the game was over at the line of scrimmage.

5.  K-State ran for a total of 91 yards against ku's defense, and a lot of those yards came during the 4th quarter, when ku had their 2nd string defense on the field.


Look, you can deny the gap in talent until you're blue in the face.  I'm not saying it's a 64-0 gap, but I wouldn't be surprised if ku was in the 56-14 range.



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ku's 2nd string:


QB:  Kale Pick
RB:  Toben Opurum
WR:  Bradley McDougald
WR:  Tertavian Ingram
WR:  Raimond Pendleton
TE:  AJ Steward
LT:  Ian Wolfe
LG:  John Williams
C:  Brad Thorson
RG:  Trevor Marongelli
RT:  Darius Parish


DE:  Quinton Woods
DT:  Jamal Greene
DT:  Caleb Blakesley
DE:  Kevin Young
LB:  Justin Springer
LB:  Steven Johnson
CB:  Calvin Rubles
SS:  Lubbock Smith
FS:  Phillip Strozier
NB:  Prinz Kande
CB:  Greg Brown



Yes, that team would smack the sh*t out of K-State.  "


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September 12, 2009, 09:43:32 AM
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When was the last time ku:
a) beat Snyder in Manhattan
b) won by more than a touchdown in Manhattan
c) won two games in a row in Manhattan
d) won a Big XII North Title

To Clarify:  These are trivia questions.  They are NOT statements or opinions on the ability, quality, or talent level of either team, so don't f*cking go there :nono:

September 12, 2009, 09:45:54 AM
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KSU's coaching staff isn't Terry Allen and the gang from Northern Iowa, or Ron Prince and his Div. II band of wannabes anymore . . . may not help all that much this year, but it will certainly help over the long haul.


November 01, 2009, 05:05:10 PM
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K-State had a better team last year, and ku won 52-21.  Mangino will try to run up the score now that Snyder is back.  You guys are f*cked.
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so I don't get +30 this week?  :popcorn:
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I am glad you brought this post up

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I see some of those second stringers have moved to first team.  Do they still count?

November 01, 2009, 06:10:04 PM
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Remember ku's second-string would beat K-State.  Hopefully for Ben their first-string can.  Where is Ben anyway?

November 01, 2009, 06:31:08 PM
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Remember ku's second-string would beat K-State.  Hopefully for Ben their first-string can.  Where is Ben anyway?

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Look, you can deny the gap in talent until you're blue in the face.  I'm not saying it's a 64-0 gap, but I wouldn't be surprised if ku was in the 56-14 range.

I think that you are overvaluing ku's talent. By quite a bit.




K-State had a better team last year, and ku won 52-21.  Mangino will try to run up the score now that Snyder is back.  You guys are f*cked.
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"I'm not saying it's a 64-0 gap, but I wouldn't be surprised if ku was in the 56-14 range."

So Ben is giving 42 this weekend?