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August 13, 2009, 06:14:36 PM
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Stupid Fitz

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Rumors say the Royals offered him 3mil, but he wants 3.5.  Granted they are just rumors, but is he:

A) Driving a hard bargain
B) Asking for what he is legitimately worth
C) Completely retarded and going to end up working at Hen House

August 13, 2009, 06:43:02 PM
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The Nationals offered him 3.5 last year, but he wanted 4.  The good news is we don't have to sign him by the deadline.

August 13, 2009, 07:06:41 PM
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The Nationals offered him 3.5 last year, but he wanted 4.  The good news is we don't have to sign him by the deadline.

Answer the question please.

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August 13, 2009, 07:12:21 PM
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Seen the kid pitch several times... pay him the money he is worth... If he thinks he is worth 3.5 then pay the man. This teams needs all the help they can get.

August 13, 2009, 10:08:44 PM
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If it's only a half a million separating the two, I think it should be done quick.
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August 14, 2009, 06:43:31 AM
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August 14, 2009, 08:39:26 AM
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There's also a report out that the sides have agreed, but butt selig is holding up the signing because it is above slot and is trying to hold the All-Star Game card over KC.

August 14, 2009, 09:57:13 AM
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There's also a report out that the sides have agreed, but butt selig is holding up the signing because it is above slot and is trying to hold the All-Star Game card over KC.

Maybe Bud Selig is the reason the Royals have been so bad for so long  :dunno: I hope his career is almost over as commish...

August 14, 2009, 10:13:49 AM
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i knew we should've taken a catcher with this top pick. oh well.

August 14, 2009, 10:28:39 AM
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Selig is a &@#%ing joke. Sorry comish, we are just trying to improve our team, we are trying not to suck so bad. Get off our back.
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August 14, 2009, 11:52:14 AM
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Doesn't really seem plausible to me.  You would think the owners and players would be all over him if this rumor is true.  The only thing that makes it interesting is that supposedly it will be Fenway's 100 year anniversary that year and you know he would like the cash and pub from having the All Star game there.  I don't think it really has anything to do with Crow anyway, since he won't sign until after the deadline. 

I just think he is a dbag for not taking the money last year and I hope the Royals stand pat at 3.  I know it may look bad and they need all the help they can get, but frack him.  He is not getting any younger, so the longer he waits the less money he is going to get.  No, way he gets 3 mil if he goes back again next year.  Seems pretty ridic to me.  I am really hoping all of the bonuses in front and back of him are way down and the Royals then decide to offer him even less based on the comparable picks.  I bet he wishes he had the 3.5 from washington now. 

August 14, 2009, 01:01:09 PM
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i knew we should've taken a catcher with this top pick. oh well.

Seems like there will be a pretty highly thought of catcher available with the 1st or 2nd pick in 2010.

August 14, 2009, 07:55:54 PM
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i knew we should've taken a catcher with this top pick. oh well.

Seems like there will be a pretty highly thought of catcher available with the 1st or 2nd pick in 2010.

Sounds like Stephen Strasburg (superstud consensus #1 pick this year) won't sign with Washington, so he'll be available next year.  All the Royals have to do is not f up and start winning.  If not, Bryce Harper will be available and is very highly thought of.  A catcher would be nice at some point.  When the best in franchise history have been Darrell Porter, John Wathan, Jim Sundberg, and Mike MacFarlane, its sad.
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August 14, 2009, 09:48:53 PM
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Bryce Harper is a catcher, fwiw. He'll probably change positions at some point, though. Position isn't a big deal when you draft. You draft bats and find a place to play them in the field.

August 14, 2009, 09:54:20 PM
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Bryce Harper is a catcher, fwiw. He'll probably change positions at some point, though. Position isn't a big deal when you draft. You draft bats and find a place to play them in the field.

Have you seen how quick the kid is behind the plate? Amazing athlete to say the least.

August 15, 2009, 01:05:45 AM
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i knew we should've taken a catcher with this top pick. oh well.

Seems like there will be a pretty highly thought of catcher available with the 1st or 2nd pick in 2010.

Sounds like Stephen Strasburg (superstud consensus #1 pick this year) won't sign with Washington, so he'll be available next year.  All the Royals have to do is not f up and start winning.  If not, Bryce Harper will be available and is very highly thought of.  A catcher would be nice at some point.  When the best in franchise history have been Darrell Porter, John Wathan, Jim Sundberg, and Mike MacFarlane, its sad.

I was speaking of Harper.  We've been discussing that possibility over on the Royals thread for a little while know.  Do you go with the "Chosen One" or the guy that you could most likely plug right into your rotation next year?  I could see the sense in going with either one but, to me, it seems like the "can't miss prospects" that fail miserably tend to be pitchers more often than position players.  I'm thinking I'd go with the catcher who hits 517 ft bombs at the age of 16.  BUT, whichever one they choose, they're only going to have him for like 4 or 5 years.  So, maybe going with the guy that can produce right away is the way to go.

August 15, 2009, 08:48:52 AM
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I was speaking of Harper.  We've been discussing that possibility over on the Royals thread for a little while know.  Do you go with the "Chosen One" or the guy that you could most likely plug right into your rotation next year?  I could see the sense in going with either one but, to me, it seems like the "can't miss prospects" that fail miserably tend to be pitchers more often than position players.  I'm thinking I'd go with the catcher who hits 517 ft bombs at the age of 16.  BUT, whichever one they choose, they're only going to have him for like 4 or 5 years.  So, maybe going with the guy that can produce right away is the way to go.

It doesn't matter who we'd draft, we'd get them for the same amount of time. The sooner they get to the big leagues, the sooner their contract begins. When the Rays resigned Evan Longoria last year, they didn't bring him up the first couple weeks of the season so they could push back his eligibility for free agency.  Strasburg would probably be the safer pick, but a power hitting catcher is mighty tempting.

August 15, 2009, 09:41:59 AM
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Strasburg is the safer pick.  Remember Drew Henson?  He was on the cover of SI his senior year of high school.  He was the "next big thing in baseball", he hit monster home runs and broke all national records. 


He also......couldn't hit a big league curveball. 

August 15, 2009, 12:58:05 PM
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Strasburg is the safer pick.  Remember Drew Henson?  He was on the cover of SI his senior year of high school.  He was the "next big thing in baseball", he hit monster home runs and broke all national records.  


He also......couldn't hit a big league curveball.  

He wasn't any better at football either.

August 15, 2009, 02:41:07 PM
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Nats offer Strasburg record contract.  This looks to be more than twice the previous high for a draft pick, Mark Prior.  You may remember the Twins passing on Prior and taking Mauer first overall a few years ago.  The Cubs took Prior number 2, passing on Teixeira.  Prior won 18 his rookie year, (26 in parts of the next 6 seasons)  Mauer and Teixeira look to be hall of fame type players. 

Some scouts and baseball executives consider Strasburg the best pitching prospect in the history of the game. There have been similar evalautions of young pitchers in the past, but since the draft began in 1965, only one pitcher taken with any of the first 18 selections in the draft has ever won 200 games (Kevin Brown, 211).



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2009/08/nats_offer_strasburg_record-se.html?hpid=moreheadlines


August 15, 2009, 03:12:28 PM
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Not going to wish an injury, but if he passes on 10+ million guaranteed, I will laugh my ass off if he blows out is arm.  How much fracking money do people need?

August 15, 2009, 05:57:35 PM
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Not going to wish an injury, but if he passes on 10+ million guaranteed, I will laugh my ass off if he blows out is arm.  How much fracking money do people need?

If someone offered you 10 bucks to mow his lawn but you really thought you deserved and could get 50 bucks out of him, would you just say "&@#% it" and take the 10 bucks?  I wouldn't.  If the Sox paid 50 mil just to have the rights to negotiate with Dice K, seems like the Nats would shell out similar money to sign the most hyped pitcher in recent history.  Or at least that's what his agent believes, and he's had a pretty good track record of getting what he wants. I totally believe that  MLB blows my nuts because of the whole no salary cap thing but, if I was in that position, I'd sure as hell try to get every damn nickel I could out of the owners.

August 15, 2009, 07:44:27 PM
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Pitchers have a terrible record of being drafted 1/1.

07-David Price--Too soon to tell

06-Luke Hochevar--Has shown flashes, but has some question marks. Too be determined.

02-Bryan Bullington--Has pitched in 13 games with 3 teams, most recently with Toronto this year.  Career 0-5 record.

97-Matt Anderson--Sported a 5+ era over 7 seasons in middle relief.

96-Kris Benson--Mediocre starter for 5 teams.  Most remembered for ex-wife with big mouth and even bigger teets.

94-Paul Wilson--40-58 over 7 seasons.

91-Brien Taylor--Never pitched in the majors after signing record contract.  Big "haha" to the yankees.  One of only three 1/1's never to play a major league game.

89-Ben McDonald--One of the more highly touted prospects ever. 10-game winner 4 times, but also lost 10 games in three of those.

88-Andy Benes--Possibly the best of the bunch.  Won 155 games (lost 139) and made one All-star game. Finished that year 15-15.

83-Tim Belcher--146-140 career record with 6 teams in 14 seasons.  Did throw 8 shutouts in 1989, but somehow still had an era of nearly 3.

81-Mike Moore--The other candidate for best of the bunch.  Won 17 or more games 4 times and made one All-star game, but finished with a 161-176 career record.

76-Floyd Bannister--134-143 career record and one All-star game primarily on some pretty lousy white sox and Mariners teams.

73-David Clyde--Probably the most highly touted prospect ever, especially considering it was an era before the internet and sports talk radio.  Essentially the ryan leaf or tony mandarich of baseball.  18-33 over 5 seasons. Note: Born in KCK.

August 16, 2009, 10:43:14 AM
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Not going to wish an injury, but if he passes on 10+ million guaranteed, I will laugh my ass off if he blows out is arm.  How much fracking money do people need?

If someone offered you 10 bucks to mow his lawn but you really thought you deserved and could get 50 bucks out of him, would you just say "frack it" and take the 10 bucks?  I wouldn't.  If the Sox paid 50 mil just to have the rights to negotiate with Dice K, seems like the Nats would shell out similar money to sign the most hyped pitcher in recent history.  Or at least that's what his agent believes, and he's had a pretty good track record of getting what he wants. I totally believe that  MLB blows my nuts because of the whole no salary cap thing but, if I was in that position, I'd sure as hell try to get every damn nickel I could out of the owners.

No way am I saying I wouldn't try and get what I thought I deserved.  I am just saying that his number is going to be so much higher than any draft pick before him.  Passing up 15-20 mil in favor of zero is just pretty crazy IMO.  Way too much risk for that kind of cash.  I don't agree with doing it, but guys passing on 3 when they want 4 is different. 

What does he think the Royals are going to pay him next year when he is the second overall pick?

August 17, 2009, 10:56:32 PM
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Didn't realize that Crow was drafted by the Nats last year.  How pissed would you be if the Royals failed to sign back to back #1 picks?

August 18, 2009, 06:46:40 PM
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Didn't realize that Crow was drafted by the Nats last year.  How pissed would you be if the Royals failed to sign back to back #1 picks?
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August 18, 2009, 06:48:22 PM
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Didn't realize that Crow was drafted by the Nats last year.  How pissed would you be if the Royals failed to sign back to back #1 picks?
:facepalm: :in-n-out:

As you can plainly see, I didn't even attempt to read the first 4 or 5 posts in this thread.  Them words is hard.

August 20, 2009, 09:30:54 PM
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Didn't realize that Crow was drafted by the Nats last year.  How pissed would you be if the Royals failed to sign back to back #1 picks?
:facepalm: :in-n-out:

As you can plainly see, I didn't even attempt to read the first 4 or 5 posts in this thread.  Them words is hard.

It's ok I hate reading long posts too, I usually just skip them or see if something is bolded/italicized/underlined.





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